The Syndicate

triceratopzeuhl wrote:sloonei also hasn't voted, but I guess it's possible that he's not allowed to as part of a silence. I notice he is in fact reading the thread right now so maybe we're about to find out.

Sleep "They don't sleep anymore on the beach..." Sends a player to sleep during each Night, blocking his actions that Night and preventing him from posting and voting during the subsequent Day phase. If Moya is lynched or night killed, Sleep is the first to inherit the kill, in order to send a player to sleep forever. If Sleep kills, he cannot use his regular power during the same Night. [Secrets]

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:The Golden Curse is Specific, While the Jagged Curse Would Require Wording That I Don't Believe Someone With Such a Power Would Use

What's the motivation for mafia!Jay to fake it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mafia-aligned players have to literally manufacture every post they make.

Well There's That

Why would JJJ take the trouble to manufacture a day of fake curse posts? Not to mention I don't remember him being a prime suspect during Day 0 or 1 at any point.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:I initially misread and thought that boomslang was talking about the day 1 lynch there, and was confused because he voted for MM not for timmer.

Noticing now that that was from day 2, you're right that it's a completely nonsense attempt at logic. How does voting for timmer give info on MM? Especially given that yesterday, his reason for voting MM was that he thought timmer was good and that MM was wrongly accusing timmer:

Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.

One possible reason I can see for boomslang to vote timmer is if they are teammates, he knows timmer is unlikely to lynched, and wants to dissociate with him. The only thing that has me second guessing is that there is at least 1 civ BTSC pair.

any chance of boomslang commenting before the lynch poll ends?

linki - epi - what do you think the reason behind boomslang's vote today is then?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

A Person wrote:

Scotty wrote:Thanks G.

As far as low posters go, A Person has only posted twice, but I must preface that I dot tag on low posters for not posting frequently, but for not posting quality posts.

A Person wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Over 1000 posts before Day 2. Way to go, team.

Would you believe me if I told you I wouldn't mind the mafia and/or serial killer killing all the high posters so the rest of us can keep up?

same tbh

This is his 4th of 4 posts. It was last night. It tells me he doesn't want to read the thread, and he doesn't really care what's going on. Civ behavior? I think not.

I don't have the time or energy to read all the nonsense people spew, a few well placed kills would improve the quality of the game.

I honestly cannot think of any world where a civvie would feel this way. Curious if you ever stated your reasoning for this.

Because this sounds very much like you're wanting to quash discussion.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have to leave to take a final, but do you guys need any more than this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.

Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.

Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.

Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.

He read timmer as town yesterday and voted for me. Then today he voted for timmer, with the hope of getting information about me.

Jay can't talk, but he can pull quotes with the best of them.

Sloonei wrote:Epi is way more town than INH. For instance, he is currently arguing against the strongest bandwagon competing against his own. Why would scum Epignosis be calling us dinguses for lynching somebody that's not him right now?

I moved my vote to INH because the drive-bys seem to be coming in now.

Sloonei wrote:I am being pulled away by social obligations with 15 minutes to go before the deadline. Oh well. I'm comfortable enough with my vote on INH. I endorse his lynch. I do not endorse lynching Epi. Do good and hope for a bad flip, townies.

Sloonei wrote:

A Person wrote:so who are the good guys and who are the bad guys

MetalMarsh is a bad guy, Epignosis is a good guy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Like They Did With the First Victim

ZKT

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epignosis -- He isn't really trying to look like anything other than a guy posting with a gimmick. I get the impression he'd be doing at least something more if he was bad.

Seriously, This Guy- Destroy Him After I'm Gone

Epignosis wrote:The Golden Curse is Specific, While the Jagged Curse Would Require Wording That I Don't Believe Someone With Such a Power Would Use

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epignosis -- He isn't really trying to look like anything other than a guy posting with a gimmick. I get the impression he'd be doing at least something more if he was bad.

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Caution: If You Throw the Boomerang, it Will Come Back to Hit You in the Face

Epignosis wrote:I Tried to Warn All of You

Golden wrote:I also really don't like scotty basically being like 'told you guys'. Calling your shot on someone being civilian is the easiest thing to do in the world since a) most people are and b) all baddies have an even higher percentage shot of being right (in this case 15/16); but

c) bragging about it afterwards is the equivalent of discrediting a load of people, even when at least half of them are town, and d) not only does it discredit, but it also puts the focus squarely on 'who voted for a civilian to die' instead of 'who is bad' which are not necessarily the same thing.

Epignosis wrote:I Gave the Art Mover a Sound Reason to Vote Differently, and He Waved Off My Perceptive Point With a Meaningless Caveat

Empire of dirt

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.

Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.

Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.

Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.

I'm more than happy to lynch Boomslang.

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:For what it's worth, I think MP is civ.

I also think he should take a deep breath and come back to the game.

I'm voting A Person. At least for now. If they come back and give a reason for their post advocating for killing high posters, then I may reconsider.

A Person Complained About Volume...He Could Have Killed the Source of the Volume (But He Didn't)

My Sweetest Friend
Everyone I Know
Goes Away In The End

And You Could Have It All
My Empire Of Dirt

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:For what it's worth, I think MP is civ.

I also think he should take a deep breath and come back to the game.

I'm voting A Person. At least for now. If they come back and give a reason for their post advocating for killing high posters, then I may reconsider.

A Person Complained About Volume...He Could Have Killed the Source of the Volume (But He Didn't)

Golden wrote:My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:YWQIGWETZEZXJNNZQXTIKZNNKFYREPAMJJTFBPULCKNFGOHPHGZUDTSJWSNHJLINGUDCNVFPZPXIXLXKFXBGMOOQZNQDMAXPPNUELPIVWGKQHLEBDQFEAKHERODKZRJNOQIUOW

Sloonei wrote:

A Person
3
Golden (5), JaggedJimmyJay (8), LoRab (12)
25%

LoRab wrote:For what it's worth, I think MP is civ.

I also think he should take a deep breath and come back to the game.

I'm voting A Person. At least for now. If they come back and give a reason for their post advocating for killing high posters, then I may reconsider.

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.

335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny

Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.

But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.

Generating Content or White Noise (A Ballad in Three Movements):
a. I Sympathize with a Person, I Really Do
b. By the Time I Read Moby Dick Every Evening, I Lose Interest in Writing Anything Myself
c. The Other Voices are Drowned

MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?

Of All People, I Would Think Mr. POE (i.e., FIND ALL THE TOWNSFOLK) and Mr. WKT Would Be Most Receptive to a Cogent Point in the Victim's Favor

Spoiler: show

hidden track

But Neither of You Were

This is precisely my point.

You are using POE but are not justifying your votes in that way. It seems to me that POE is a massive distraction then. Saying Scotty is bad is the opposite of your strategy, is it not?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.

335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny

Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.

But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:I'm gonna start with ISO'ing Epi votes, since I didn't even know that was a train (shows how much I've been paying attention, lol) and it stands out to me because of that reason (unexpected). It's probably all I'll be able to get through for tonight, but it's a start, I suppose.

I can dig it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:The Boomerang Said What I Was Waiting to Hear Someone Else Say, Because it Was on My Mind

ZKT

TBDEGCMSSTCV

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:The Boomerang Said What I Was Waiting to Hear Someone Else Say, Because it Was on My Mind

ZKT

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:If you mean yes, or good, (or agree)

WBIZ

Scotty wrote:If you mean no, or bad, (or disagree)

WKT

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Linki w/Golden: I don't necessarily think both are fake. But I think odds are high one is, given what we know about the roles.
Linki w/MP: Spinning my wheels here, but I'd say a mafia J could be pretending to help temper his high post count from yesterday. He came out swinging, establishing himself as a strong inquisitive force (see Scotty calling him the Spanish Inquisition, for crying out loud), and playing insanified lets him fade back a bit while retaining that impression.

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Full of broken thoughts

nijuukyugou wrote:nonsense

It Isn't Nonsense...I've Seen it So Many Times...

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Golden wrote:Full of broken thoughts

nijuukyugou wrote:nonsense

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I Like This A Lot Because It Sounds Logical and Not Angry or Annoyed or Purple Monkey Dishwasher

Golden wrote:

Boomslang wrote:against players who were attracting some heat?

Full of broken thoughts

A million miles away?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:The Golden Curse is Specific, While the Jagged Curse Would Require Wording That I Don't Believe Someone With Such a Power Would Use

What's the motivation for mafia!Jay to fake it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mafia-aligned players have to literally manufacture every post they make.

Golden wrote:

Boomslang wrote:I'm skeptical that both of the curses are genuine. It's just too easy to fake something that looks legitimate.

I will make you hurt.

Boomslang wrote:against players who were attracting some heat?

Full of broken thoughts

Scotty wrote:Here ya go golden:

Boomslang

Crown of shit

Boomslang wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seems both Golden and Jay are cursed or something. Well, that sucks.

^see above. Two curses on the same day, against players who were attracting some heat? And in a game in which of the roles indicated insanifying? I'm skeptical that both of the curses are genuine. It's just too easy to fake something that looks legitimate.

Scotty wrote:How many damned insaifiers we got in this game? If you count Epi's weird Swedish message he's done a few times, that's 3.

Sloonei wrote:Also, I want Epi to post exclusively in Icelandic on Day 2 please and thank you.

LoRab wrote:

Golden wrote:

LoRab wrote:So, what's my motivation to tell you more opinions exactly?

My empire of dirt

Golden wrote:You could have it all

Wow. You, uh, make it sound so compelling.

But, still...I don't really have any suspects. I don't really want to point out who I think is civ. I still need to read back on who was suspecting INH to see who in that pool seems suspish.

But that dirt....tell me more.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:But really, who are you planning on hurting?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I don't think it is unreasonable for BWT to ask Epi that question.

It Was a Dumb Question.

How was it a dumb question? I'm curious.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:...I'm still not getting it. INH doesn't have to be a mafia read. My mind is open. But he hasn't said anything since I made my beefs clear.

He Has No Reason to Fuck Up You Thinking He's Good by Becoming Argumentative, Ya Dingus

Well, that's why I expressed my anxiety given there's no reasonable mafia-aligned strategy for INH to react like that. Doesn't mean he's town, but it's the main thing making me nervous at the moment.

Whom do you suspect?

Sloonei wrote:I don't think it is unreasonable for BWT to ask Epi that question.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Scotty wrote:And there ya go.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

That's utter crap. I need a break. See you all on Day 2.

Where are you going for Night 1?

I have things to do and time to spend with the wife.

And I'm super burnt out with this game at the moment.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:But epi has made 2-3 on topic posts now so if he wants to actually play the game I'll leave him be until I have stronger reason to suspect him

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Typically I look at CFDs when there is a combination of 1) late phase chatter makes me second guess my current vote and 2) another good option is readily visible. In this scenario I don't have #1.