The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:42 pm Nobody gets an automatic pass. Passes have to be earned.

If you're building a roof (presumably for someone to fiddle on), and you've hired sixteen men to build it, but you are informed that three of those men are intent on destroying the roof, whom do you fire first?

Is it somebody whom you see working very hard on the construction, or someone who looks like he doesn't care about the roof?

If you fire the first guy first, and he wasn't planning to destroy the roof, then you've lost a good worker on the basis of the least evidence. If you fire the second guy, then you've lost someone who...looks like he doesn't care about the roof.

How have I earned this pass while Sloonei has failed to earn it?

Sloonei has done nothing in my estimation except pound Kylemii into the ground. We both played Vocaroo Too! Mafia, and I expressed why I think Kylemii is civilian. Sloonei, to my knowledge, has not commented on Kylemii's tone were he to read his posts in Kylemii's voice.* Furthermore, Sloonei quickly called me good. Should he have done so? And on what basis?

*Granted, I have not read Sloonei's novel on Kylemii, which I will do so shortly.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:23 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:23 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:19 pm
The most pressing question emerging from this then would be: Epignosis, why won't you be voting for me today?

Because you're a shitty Day 1 lynch.

Why?

Now you're just fishing for compliments.

Because if you are good, then that's an active, vocal, passionate mafia-hunter gone, one who didn't even get a real chance to catch anybody.

And if you are bad, then that's an active, vocal, passionate mafia member who will be interacting thoroughly with his teammates.

I called you and Sloonei bad together earlier. Now you are begging for his life using an argument you passively ridiculed.

I'm still three pages behind.

Still CATCHING UP.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:25 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:17 pm I mean, look at this contradiction. Zero people have commented on this:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:14 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:01 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:38 pm

this implies that i should ever ignore lies being told about me and assume the liar must have good intentions. i disagree with that on principle based on the fact that this is mafia? lies and innaccurate statements should always be called out.

But you acknowledged in this same breath that you were pretty sure this particular lie was just a standard mafia ploy. If this is your interpretation, why was it so important to refute it first?

"pretty sure this particular lie was just a standard mafia ploy" again that's false. I said I was pretty sure he was lying cus factually speaking there were no consistencies between this game and sc2. The reasoning was still unknown.

Hmmmmm?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:19 pm i actually kinda assumed you were lying for standard day zero jay-prod purposes?

Does no one else see why I feel bad about this?

I am out of context and don't know what the problem here is.

On Day 0 Kyle made the statement that "Jay was lying for standard day zero prod purposes." A couple of hours ago he denied this and claimed that he thought Jay was lying because there were "no consistencies" in his argument.

"Civilians never contradict themselves."

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:02 pm @Epignosis

What is the strategic difference between lynching Sloonei and lynching me?

He doesn't care about the roof.

I went to argue with my wife and there are three new pages.

I have to catch up.

I replaced my mouse, but my keyboard is still shit. That should say "You couldn't spend"

Sloonei doesn't care about the roof.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:44 pm Can somebody summarize the cases against marmot and epi for me? I've seen discussion of them, but it's hard to pin down the central points.

You call me a civilian and you need central points on me?

Fuck out of here. I don't care if you "townread" me. You wrote a dissertation on Kylemii. You could spent five minutes to figure out why the ladies love me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:37 pm I decided I'd rather see two people who aren't contributing well enough for me to analyse (my group 3) lynched and you two are the best choice the group because you've made the most posts.

Epignosis, please talk to me about this sentence.

I don't know whom Mac is talking to here and I am not spending my time going back to look.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:34 pm sloonei with all due respect I'm done responding to you. your case is bad and you're only being repetitive and I have family over that I should be hanging out with, I can't be a good family member, and respond to you, and also make a good decision for this day phase at the same time. I can do 1, maybe 2 of those things but not all 3.

Sloonei's case is literally the only thing I haven't read in this thread (except what I haven't read that I am going to read). I have never known anyone to pour that much effort into a Day 1 case as that.

There are three mafia. Not one. If Sloonei feels he has a fish (you), he can afford to cast his net for others. And I don't see him doing that.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:19 pm You've made an effort to analyze the contents of Epignosis' feces.

Alcohol and fiber. Alcohol and fiber. Alcohol and fiber. Some shingle fragments. Alcohol and fiber.

I taught my kids chess.

Ran the MK shit all by myself.

Still have four votes?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:07 pm 3J, do you use a mouse?

90% of the time yes

Your quote problems suggest a broken mouse, which automatically double clicks. I replace mine every six months.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:00 pm That says nothing about her now.

You don't have to think so. I have historical evidence that she reads me well when I am under duress, and that she didn't lump on to the token anti-JJJ climate looked nice to me.

You're not under duress.

3J, do you use a mouse?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:52 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:59 pm My FZ read leans civilian, and I am influenced by the 2015 GOC when I was faced with a crapload of errant suspicion and she was one of the few contrary voices who saw the civilian in me. There's at least some parallel here.

What in the hell does that have to do with now? It's 2018.

And she has played maybe three games in that span.

That says nothing about her now.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:28 pm Wilgy and Marmot are totally cruising making jokes while a game is going on around them. Let's lynch one of them.

I think wilgy is town. He's throwing around zany/original shit, playing the ol' fast-and-loose game, things like suggesting lynching Dizzy right after a bunch of people named dizzy as a town read. Then again, he is the king of wifom mountain, so

Marmot could be bad.

I never get civilian credit for any of the zany shit I say.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:59 pm My FZ read leans civilian, and I am influenced by the 2015 GOC when I was faced with a crapload of errant suspicion and she was one of the few contrary voices who saw the civilian in me. There's at least some parallel here.

What in the hell does that have to do with now? It's 2018.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:59 pm Neither Epig or Kyle are voting each other - which is peculiar kind of. I guess they will if things stay the same?

I'll either let my vote stay or switch ro LoRab cause idfk. And I need to sleep very soon.

I believe Kyle is a civilian.

I'm not voting for him for that reason. I believe the reciprocal is true.

False dilemmas are the mafia's playpen. And their playpen doesn't even have a fucking roof.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;

a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game

MacDougall cares about the roof.

True story:

In the only other DFaraday Speed Game, I got lynched Day 1 for the first time ever, because I fell asleep at my desk and didn't save myself.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:20 pm I'm not seeing baddie LA. I also feel like there was quite the bandwagon going on earlier against her, although it seems to have moved off.

I'm going to vote Epi for now. I'm not feeling great and may fall asleep on the keyboard, so want to be sure to not forget to vote. He's really the only one I'm noticing who is playing their baddie game.

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:59 pm I'm going to sleep.
Not sure I like Marmot's vote there, though I admit there are some pages I didn't read. The days are way too short for me

If I get lynched, lynch the people who voted for me and fell asleep.

They don't care about the roof.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:45 pm I generally read Lorab wrong and I am reading her town so take that fwiw.

On what basis?

I'd say nutella cares about the roof.

I just realized something about Lorab.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:19 pm 5. Basically what I meant by this was that if Epi meant the Jay/Sloonei w/w idea as another "poop" to get reactions, then he's taken it too far and it is not helpful anymore for him to play in the weird coy way that he has been.

unhelpful =/= scummy.
If Epi flips town, you're setting yourself up here to say "he took it too far" "It's his fault" "he should have played better"

linki: "did it first"
So the first person to fling bricks is allowed. The rest of us can't?

Okay. So if you lynch me you better be prepared to say "tsk tsk, she should have played better." Deal?

And... kind of. Depends on the situation, but I felt like Epi was taking advantage of the discussion of Jay's poop to toss in his own brazen accusation in hopes of getting lauded as an insightful town leader trying to stimulate discussion. No offense but Jay really has the comparative advantage in that business.

This isn't a pissing contest.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:21 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:05 pm Ok first of all, no Epi it was not a stretch to say I was on Jay's side the whole time because I thought your accusation was bs right off the bat and because I had just caught up on 5 pages since my previous post and agreed with Jay throughout that reading.

Epi is full of shit and I will stand by that. I think he looks very bad because of it, but I could be wrong because I don't have a good handle on why he might act like this regardless of his alignment. I could be persuaded to vote for someone else (save Jay and Kyle) but for now Epi is my top suspect and I don't see what's opportunistic about that.

3J's second post was full of shit.

Why doesn't he look very bad because of it?

Because he did it first, because he has since explained, and because he's JJJ. Any more questions?

It hardly needed to be explained.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:05 pm Ok first of all, no Epi it was not a stretch to say I was on Jay's side the whole time because I thought your accusation was bs right off the bat and because I had just caught up on 5 pages since my previous post and agreed with Jay throughout that reading.

Epi is full of shit and I will stand by that. I think he looks very bad because of it, but I could be wrong because I don't have a good handle on why he might act like this regardless of his alignment. I could be persuaded to vote for someone else (save Jay and Kyle) but for now Epi is my top suspect and I don't see what's opportunistic about that.

3J's second post was full of shit.

Why doesn't he look very bad because of it?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:30 pm nutella voters, please tell me what you think of LoRab.

Lorab is someone I've wrongly accused more times than I can count. I think I've been right about her once. I have no opinion on her today. Nothing stands out.

What about meeeeeee?

You don't care about the roof.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:30 pm nutella voters, please tell me what you think of LoRab.

Lorab is someone I've wrongly accused more times than I can count. I think I've been right about her once. I have no opinion on her today. Nothing stands out.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:17 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:12 pm Do you get the impression that nutella turned this into a false dilemma (Epi vs JJJ)?

First post, no. She doesn't get it, but isn't calling for a lynch. Second post, perhaps.

I was referring to her most recent post.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:13 pm what is the roof?

also, thoughts on marmot?

I don't think he cares about the roof.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:06 pm In this metaphor does "roof" represent "lynch" or "game"

Game.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:58 pm Yeah, no.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:27 pm Yeah I don't get what Epi is saying here. Like, it's reasonable to be cautious of the possibility of Jay/Sloonei w/w, because that would be fucking scary, but it really doesn't make sense for him to assume that this is the case based on the way they have interacted so far (which is pretty much how they always interact as civs).

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:53 pm OK, I've been on Jay's side pretty much throughout this Epi bullshit, and the comparisons to RvB and WTNV, as well as Epi apparently being afraid to lynch Jay, seal it for me. I'm voting for Epi. There's a sea of wifom here but basically I don't think he should be acting like this even if it's to provoke reactions such as mine.

How do you go from "I don't get what Epi is saying here" to "OK, "I've been on Jay's side pretty much throughout this Epi bullshit?"

nutella

What's the issue with that? She is questioning your commentary in the first post (and providing the same argument that I provided, meaning she was on my side) and then has progressed to greater suspicion in the second post.

If that's the case, then she never cared to get what I was saying in the first place.

Do you get the impression that nutella turned this into a false dilemma (Epi vs JJJ)?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:58 pm
If Player X is a bad mafia player who puts his foot in his mouth and looks bad every game, will we lynch him Day 1 every game? No.

A good foreman will tell the difference between a guy who spills the nails and a guy who doesn't care about the roof.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:58 pm If you think Jay is worth lynching, why wait to lynch him? Why would you bring it up as a decent notion (for not Day 1) if Jay is "working very hard on the construction" and not "planning on destroying the roof"?

Only one person can be lynched at a time. When you have a quiet person (or a non-poster) who is mafia, lynching that person comes down to what almost amounts to luck, especially early on. If 3J is bad, leaving him alive Day 1 is a wise strategic move because Jay is a guaranteed talker, one who (more than anybody I know) will eventually comment on everybody.

To beat our analogical horse further, if 3J wants to destroy the roof, he's the guy who feels compelled to talk about the roof, and to talk about it with his co-conspirators.

Yeah, no.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:27 pm Yeah I don't get what Epi is saying here. Like, it's reasonable to be cautious of the possibility of Jay/Sloonei w/w, because that would be fucking scary, but it really doesn't make sense for him to assume that this is the case based on the way they have interacted so far (which is pretty much how they always interact as civs).

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:53 pm OK, I've been on Jay's side pretty much throughout this Epi bullshit, and the comparisons to RvB and WTNV, as well as Epi apparently being afraid to lynch Jay, seal it for me. I'm voting for Epi. There's a sea of wifom here but basically I don't think he should be acting like this even if it's to provoke reactions such as mine.

How do you go from "I don't get what Epi is saying here" to "OK, "I've been on Jay's side pretty much throughout this Epi bullshit?"

nutella

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:47 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:45 pm As of right now, Kylemii is a civilian.

why?

I alluded to why earlier: I read his posts in his voice and I feel like I am hearing the same civilian Kylemii. Granted, I have no alternative alignment audio to which I can compare that, but for Day 1, I'm comfortable enough with what I'm hearing in my head.

As of right now, Kylemii is a civilian.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:40 pm Should we always lynch a low poster D1 then? 0.o

Jay would probably tell you that there should be no low-posters.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:35 pm
You always give people shit for being afraid to lynch me. Are you afraid to lynch me?

I like giving people shit.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:19 pm
The most pressing question emerging from this then would be: Epignosis, why won't you be voting for me today?

Because you're a shitty Day 1 lynch.

So?

I disagree that any player should get an automatic pass on Day 1, just because they're a shitty lynch.

Nobody gets an automatic pass. Passes have to be earned.

If you're building a roof (presumably for someone to fiddle on), and you've hired sixteen men to build it, but you are informed that three of those men are intent on destroying the roof, whom do you fire first?

Is it somebody whom you see working very hard on the construction, or someone who looks like he doesn't care about the roof?

If you fire the first guy first, and he wasn't planning to destroy the roof, then you've lost a good worker on the basis of the least evidence. If you fire the second guy, then you've lost someone who...looks like he doesn't care about the roof.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:23 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:19 pm
The most pressing question emerging from this then would be: Epignosis, why won't you be voting for me today?

Because you're a shitty Day 1 lynch.

Why?

Now you're just fishing for compliments.

Because if you are good, then that's an active, vocal, passionate mafia-hunter gone, one who didn't even get a real chance to catch anybody.

And if you are bad, then that's an active, vocal, passionate mafia member who will be interacting thoroughly with his teammates.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:19 pm
The most pressing question emerging from this then would be: Epignosis, why won't you be voting for me today?

Because you're a shitty Day 1 lynch.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:01 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:57 pm I'm sure Scum Epi would go after JJJ first. Because he's such an easy townie to lynch.

Have you met Epignosis?

Holy hell, that's basically what I'm accusing you of now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm If people are going to vote for me, I just have one request: keep the tally close. Don't let the wagon take off.

Suspect me for saying that if you want, I don't give a shit. Just please keep it close.

I do not plan on voting for you today.

Do you have any perspectives of the people who have done so, or mused over suspecting me?

I didn't take MacDougall's vote seriously. My impression was that he was getting revenge for his Day 1 lynch elsewhere.

I don't have an opinion of speedchuck.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:24 pm At the same time, I was thinking about how 3J said something obviously absurd (at least it was obvious to me), and that if the plan was to figure out who is bad by generating content from saying something so obviously absurd (3J at least took credit for generating content), how genuine was 3J being? The fake tell maneuver was too over-the-top for me to believe that an honest 3J expected to catch mafia with it, and because of that, it looked too much like an act.

Folks need to understand that "catching mafia" isn't the only thing to when a game begins. Some mild suspicions can emerge from a pile of bullshit (which my "tell" on Kyle absolutely was), but civilian reads can come of that too. Any game-relevant content can be judged for alignment. That mini rainbow I spat out was an immediate reception of how the maneuver was handled by people in the thread. Early in a game it's the latter I care about most. Making a confident mafia read on Day 1 is very difficult, but confident civilian reads come more easily. I value that a lot, and it can't happen if the content in the thread doesn't reflect people playing the game.

I get all that.

My point was that if everybody realizes your bullshit is...well, bullshit, they're going to treat it as such. speedchuck certainly did:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:26 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 am Kyle is with the Russian Police. Discuss.

strongly disagree

He's strong-arming us!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:59 am fucking

*votes Kylemii*

nutella's reaction doesn't strike me as serious:

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:29 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:12 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:11 pm okay so you think a 48 hour long game with teens who kept being terrible dicks to each other is going to be indicative of how I play in a real game as mafia?

one game isn't enough for real tell correlation, famous poker player sneezes the first time they roll a full house you don't just assume that they have a full house the second time they sneeze

So you recognize the parallel then?

boom rekt

Other than Sloonei (who voted on the basis of Kyle's reaction), who said anything about your opening move? Kylemii appears to be the only one to take what you said about him seriously.

I believe that if you were going to move the thread along for the benefit of the civilian faction, you would have come up with something a little more believable than what you did to stir up conversation. That's my position, and why I suspect you. That Sloonei hounded Kyle over what was obviously absurd gave me the impression that you two were throwing your weight around to lynch a floundering Kylemii.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:23 pm Sloonei, if Epi's suspicion of me is built upon my reaction to his turd, why is the premier premise he's promoted that my initial poop on Kyle was a performance rather than a real attempt to generate content? That was my first action in this thread, well before he turded you and I.

I don't know. Epi should answer this.

Can you reword the question. I don't understand what's being asked.

Spoiler: show

Cue the "Epignosis is pretending to be ignorant song and dance."

What

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:04 pm Inore that. My phone got ahead of itself and told me I was done using the keypad.

What is the true source of your suspicion against Jay, Epi? Did it begin in earnest before you announced your paranoia read about the two of us, or did it begin with his prod of Kyle? Or some other time?

Good thing you clarified. I interpreted your reaction as "What"



To be more specific regarding my thought process (since I'm so often accused of pretzel logic and am getting that criticism here again), my initial concern was how Kylemii failed to consider that 3J was bad and was making a move against him. Had the Vocaroo sequel not have happened, I might have carried on with considering that a sign of Kyle's (subconscious) guilt revealing itself, but when I read Kyle's posts in his own voice, that feeling went away.

At the same time, I was thinking about how 3J said something obviously absurd (at least it was obvious to me), and that if the plan was to figure out who is bad by generating content from saying something so obviously absurd (3J at least took credit for generating content), how genuine was 3J being? The fake tell maneuver was too over-the-top for me to believe that an honest 3J expected to catch mafia with it, and because of that, it looked too much like an act.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:23 pm Sloonei, if Epi's suspicion of me is built upon my reaction to his turd, why is the premier premise he's promoted that my initial poop on Kyle was a performance rather than a real attempt to generate content? That was my first action in this thread, well before he turded you and I.

I don't know. Epi should answer this.

Can you reword the question. I don't understand what's being asked.

Spoiler: show

Cue the "Epignosis is pretending to be ignorant song and dance."

The question was meant for Sloonei. He feels your suspicion of me is more a matter of my reaction to your initial suggestion that he and I are mafia teammates. I am suggesting that your suspicion of me pre-dates that, because it originates with my initial "fake tell" move against Kyle and your suggestion that it was me faking it.

Which of those assertions is more accurate?

Yours.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:28 pm Yes. The Epi/LC dynamic is in play here, only Epi changed his target to Jay to shake things up.

Could be. If so, it sheds a lot of new light on why that always sets LC off so much.

But it's LC that drives me bananas.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm If people are going to vote for me, I just have one request: keep the tally close. Don't let the wagon take off.

Suspect me for saying that if you want, I don't give a shit. Just please keep it close.

I do not plan on voting for you today.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:23 pm Sloonei, if Epi's suspicion of me is built upon my reaction to his turd, why is the premier premise he's promoted that my initial poop on Kyle was a performance rather than a real attempt to generate content? That was my first action in this thread, well before he turded you and I.

I don't know. Epi should answer this.

Can you reword the question. I don't understand what's being asked.