The Syndicate

And you best sleep with one eye open.

Golden wrote:@SVS

Would bf buddy up to me if he was civ? Yes. I know he gets confidence and energy from us seeing eye to eye. That part is absolute truth.
Would bf buddy up to me if he is bad? Yes. Bf is constantly aware that I am also the best at ratting out his baddie game, and I think he would be particularly aware of the fact I might be able to call him out.

The thing that makes me feel most comfortable about him? Our heads actually are in a very similar space, with eyes on the same people. This does give me some confidence.

Golden wrote:Although I was hoping the will would be a rezz for you if you died

That's a...thing to say on Day 1.

Golden wrote:Also, why put such a big target on your back so early if you are bad?

...because you won't get killed if your team controls the kill?

Golden wrote:The thing that makes me feel least comfortable about him? I don't like that I feel this drawn in to defending him so vehemently so early.

Golden wrote:Although I was hoping the will would be a rezz for you if you died

^You said that on your own accord.

Golden wrote:@epi - I don't really like that I'm drawn into defending bf so much, because he could be right, but...

I, for one, am not surprised this site has such a major bias towards mafia wins if this: "I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found." is the prevailing attitude.

I've hosted right around 25% of the games on this site. I can tell you why civilians lose a lot.

Golden wrote:Mafia have enough of an advantage as it is. While staying within the rules, I'm a big believer in the civilians taking any advantage they have got. And I know bf is too. That's because we've both used this method on a few occasions to the benefit of the civs in the past. RM probably leant towards civ wins a little. And I think it was because we shared what little we could and be damned if the mafia could see it as well. They already had an advantage, we were just levelling it a bit.

My experience is different (and I have played on RM before the music died). Info dumpers end up getting screwed and normally don't win. I have been designing my games so that happens without intervention from me.

Golden wrote:Anyway, I don't know llama as a host or this site's rules. All I know is that I've always been one to shout what I've found. It's why I die early a lot. But I never mind if the town wins.

Not a Genesis fan, are you?

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And if you are right, blindfaeth, you squandered your opportunity. You should have gone hard after the owner of the will and observed what happened.

I don't agree with this. To have gone hard without discussing it with the town would have risked a failed lynch and giving the individual a lot of power, if bf's hunch was correct.

Mmm, no. Discussing it with the town means discussing it with the Mafia. blindfaeth showed his hand, and Mafia can behave accordingly. Lost opportunity if he's right.

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This has been called "info" and "potential info." It is neither. It's an assumption.

Disagree with this too. BF does have info - he knows whose will it is.

Also not sure of the value of coming at bf so hard.

I have my ways. I also learned something because blindfaeth spilled the beans. But I'm not as forthcoming. Sorry.

"I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found."

Other than blindfaeth, I don't think anyone got anything valuable.

...right?

I mean, no one is going to come in here saying "Wowee, I got a magic crystal that shows me who the bad guys are!"

...right?

I mean, no one wants to be killed for their shit.

...right?

So I'm astonished at the risk blindfaeth has chosen to take. What astonishes me more is that he thinks he has three of five pegged on Day 1 due to a tenuous assumption on his part: That the owner of the will is the millionaire anarchist (would an anarchist even have a will? I don't know). This has been called "info" and "potential info." It is neither. It's an assumption. Knowing how much llama loves loves loves assumptions, it's naive to believe the owner of the will is most likely evil and that you can peg that person's teammates on Day 1.

And if you are right, blindfaeth, you squandered your opportunity. You should have gone hard after the owner of the will and observed what happened.

rabbit8 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well, I was going to try to post using quotes, but all the profanity has now tripped my work's "Adult Material" filter. So now I can't read anything further on page 3. I am only able to post this from the quick reply feature on another page of the thread. Thanks rabbit!

Dom, I used the verb tense I did because it made the most sense. Why do you find it odd that there are fewer Day 0 choices than people?

S~V~S isn't an acronym unless you pronounce it "Svvvsss."

llama, I like moving things along.

I would blame the prudeness of your work environment. I could never work for someone who edits my language. Maybe that's why I work for myself? I don't know? Tell the to screw off......Nubs are nubs. Like a little foul language is going to hurt anyone? You need me to filter my self for your cause?

Not likely to happen. But I could try......................Is there no filter for this site?

How do you host games, considering in I'm in Roger Rabbit?

I would argue that there is more profanity heard in my profession on a given day than in any other.

Sounds less like a will and more like a hit contract.

New page. I can read along again.

Well, I was going to try to post using quotes, but all the profanity has now tripped my work's "Adult Material" filter. So now I can't read anything further on page 3. I am only able to post this from the quick reply feature on another page of the thread. Thanks rabbit!

Dom, I used the verb tense I did because it made the most sense. Why do you find it odd that there are fewer Day 0 choices than people?

S~V~S isn't an acronym unless you pronounce it "Svvvsss."

llama, I like moving things along.

thellama73 wrote:

DFaraday wrote: He clearly had a gift for creating amazing character names, if nothing else.

Here's the list of sockpuppet names I was planning to use if we went that route, also all from his books:
Ezra Jenkins - Farmer
Elmer St. Cyr - Cabbie
Herman Hieronymous - Sauerkraut King
Agamemnon Jaax - Chicago Gunman
Katz I’Berger - Newspaperman
Sanderstreet MacGavrock - Chief of Police
Foxhart Cubycheck - State’s Attorney
Yogi Ramshee - Hindu Mystic
The Triple Enigma - Ossified Man
“Eggs” Wei Ching - Chinese Gangster
Horace Winterbotham - Reverend
Brawthoe Rex - Life Insurance Salesman
Fritz Küttenschitz - Innkeeper
Caleb Tewksbury - Church Elder
Alfonsé deSullivan - Plainclothes Policeman
Olivia Debrevois - Zulu Poetess
Aidrie Ainsworth - Champion Archer
Piffington Wainright - Detective Story Writer
Trudel van der Helst - Candy Shop Girl
Ursula Tyrwhit - Landlady
Cassie “the Axe” - Actress and Erstwhile Murdress
Eliphalet Galanthus - Occultist judge
Dick Axman - Prizefighter
Calvin Archdeacon - Book Collector
Yvon Duplessis - Hospital Nurse

I really do regret my choice now.

blindfaeth wrote:I actually wouldn't be surprised if choosing nothing was the best option. The host is llama after all.

He's a libertarian. If you choose spending your money for nothing or less, you get what you deserve.

And I confirmed that just now. blindfaeth's first post in my current game was toward Golden.

Mongoose wrote:Rob's already being hilarious!

Given all the white people playing this I should probably be ashamed of myself.

Mongoose wrote:If I wasn't late to the game, my first choice would have been the silver Buddha...

... as a white girl that does yoga.

I'm white. I picked the safe.

Guess you could call me a.....safecracker?

S~V~S wrote:That's why it is in a glass box miles away from me lol.

I may do a Dune Mafia one of these days.

S~V~S wrote:I actually have a rare book. A first edition of Dune. I keep it in a glass case, in my Dads office safe, becasue I am afraid to touch it lol.

Wouldn't it be funny if someone spilled water all over it?

Turnip Head wrote:Yay game! I'm gonna vote for the key, because it could be the key to everything.

Didn't read the rules!

I'm gonna play it safe.