The Syndicate

sabie12 has not answered my question.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:57 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:53 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:52 pm Nova over here lining up every easily lynching player as mafia.
Well, they're not going to lynch themselves.
He's targeting the easy to lynch players, hoping the big ones go along with it. Enrique/Creature are lurkering more or less and couldn't convince people otherwise, sab is already up so if she flips civ its well I told you not her or well yeah she's mafia but so is sig

He's setting it up so if I get lynched and when I flip civ he can jump on the Sab wagon.

If she flips instead and goes mafia he can keep pushing me.
So...what you're telling me is...you're fucked either way you figure it.
No since we flip Sab today hope hse's mafia that confirms Nova is and if she's civ then we still lynch Nova since he's mafia.

That makes zero sense.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:58 pm What if i ninja on sig

You'd be stealing my thunder.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:53 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:52 pm Nova over here lining up every easily lynching player as mafia.
Well, they're not going to lynch themselves.
He's targeting the easy to lynch players, hoping the big ones go along with it. Enrique/Creature are lurkering more or less and couldn't convince people otherwise, sab is already up so if she flips civ its well I told you not her or well yeah she's mafia but so is sig

He's setting it up so if I get lynched and when I flip civ he can jump on the Sab wagon.

If she flips instead and goes mafia he can keep pushing me.

So...what you're telling me is...you're fucked either way you figure it.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:53 pm Robot doctor is dead.

Front page says otherwise:

Long Con - ISO. Lynched Day 1. Human Friend.
TonyStarkPrime - ISO. Killed Night 1. Sal.
therealet - ISO. Lynched Day 2. Sleazy Martinez.
Dom - ISO. Lynched Day 3. Network President.
Macdougall - ISO. Killed Night 3. Priest.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:52 pm Nova over here lining up every easily lynching player as mafia.

Well, they're not going to lynch themselves.

I must urinate.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:48 pm I don't like how Epi keeps pingponging back and forth on this vote.

You're not supposed to like it.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:47 pm Image
The Execubots can move freely through set without interference. Twice during the game, they can perform an undetectable kill. They are also able to identify a player’s role twice during the game.

What's the purpose of you bringing this up right now?

" The Execubots can move freely through set without interference. Twice during the game, they can perform an undetectable kill. They are also able to identify a player’s role twice during the game. "

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:46 pm
Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:46 pm interesting sabie knows there's a scum rolecop by the way, is that even in the op
I looked and I ain't see shit.

Oh, the bad guy cop role.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:46 pm interesting sabie knows there's a scum rolecop by the way, is that even in the op

I looked and I ain't see shit.

Tick tock.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:39 pm [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine
No, lynch Sig.

Okay.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:41 pm
Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:40 pmthank god
You're welcome.
was it my case or

It's because there's 18 minutes left and nobody gets to be comfortable in that time span.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:40 pmthank god

You're welcome.

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:34 pm Wow there woooow if aka when Sig flips civ oooor wait lets not flip sig and get our shit together?

And how, might I ask, would we get our shit together?

What would shit-togetherness look like on this glorious Day 4?

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:31 pm Sig flips town / neutral

call tmi on me. i dare you. come on.

Toad Must Interfere?

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:25 pm [VOTE: sabie12 ] aubergine

Dude, you're basically like, throwing your vote away, which does not help find mafia. If you're good, we're losing the chance of getting mafia.

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:53 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:48 pm
Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:44 pm No. Lynch Sig.
and if he flips town? do we lynch you?
He won't.
Who's his final partner?
Enrique I believe.

Any reason you can share that you prefer sig over Eight-Post-Enrique?

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:53 pm >scum reads nova
> town reads sig
> votes sig

just wanted that to be pointed out.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:48 pm
Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:44 pm No. Lynch Sig.
and if he flips town? do we lynch you?
He won't.

Who's his final partner?

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I don't take kindly to someone acting like the lynch is over when there's still plenty of time. That reeks of an independent who needs certain people alive at the end to win. You know...the hypnotized.

A civilian would be more interested in shaking things up rather than encouraging the dust to settle as early as possible.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:35 pm
Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:33 pm Epi, your enrique vote is useless. Vote either nova or sabie please.
I'll move it where I like when I like.

Are you concerned that someone other than nova or sabie are going to be lynched?
Nobody's voting enrique, so voting there is useless. It's essentially like abstaining, which is bad. Town only have their votes. This is the only time we can kill mafia.

Don't strawman me, that's not my point. I am saying we are currently deciding between 3 people and you voting someone else is just as good as not voting. If you're town, we're losing the chance of getting a mafia.

Nobody's voting Enrique yet.

You act like there's not 80 minutes left in the Day phase, as though the Day ends in twelve seconds. It doesn't.

And uh...I "abstained" last time and mafia got lynched.

For my records.

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What is the evidence for Enrique being a civilian, Tedexter?

sig's Night 1 activity oozes genuineness. Even now I can still feel the excitement.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:33 pm Epi, your enrique vote is useless. Vote either nova or sabie please.

I'll move it where I like when I like.

Are you concerned that someone other than nova or sabie are going to be lynched?

[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

FYI: I'm leaving things out I don't derive anything from.

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TSP sniffed out Dom Day 1.

This gives me the impression that the mafia are making calculated (read: smart) kills.

Dom said a displeased thing against nova.

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Now nova is "on point" after suspecting the cop for suspecting a civilian.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:06 pm You people have no idea what shade is !

It's not any time you say something negative !

Stop taking pop culture lessons from Taylor Swift !

Prescriptivist bullshit.

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Small thing of note: Creature was the one wanting Dom to hush about "shade," but it's therealet who chastised Creature for "shutting down discussion," which draws the ire of Dom.

Dom doesn't fuss at Creature.

Huh.

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Tedexter's accusation here looks genuine.

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These interactions exist. The former is a weak, empty accusation that goes nowhere. The latter means little to me but may mean something to someone else.

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I don't understand how Dom's view of Creature solidified in the span of about a minute, which is what I'm guessing what happened here.

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Unknown
Civilian
Likely not Mafia
Civilian

++++

I'm roping this off here, because in the next series of posts, there are direct interactions with sig, so I'd like to highlight those separately.

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After a succinct agreement regarding therealet...

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The over-the-top reaction about the toad looks phony on Dom's end, but sig's reaction to it looks genuine. This is an easy way for teammates to interact in the thread, sure, but sig appears annoyed.

I don't know what Dom wants sig to "try again."

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I want opinions on this Toad interaction, especially from those accusing sig. What's your take on it?

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Dom has done nothing regarding Enrique but dance around him.

He voted sig for self-preservation, but more strongly advocated a Nanook lynch.

The Nanook "case" is patented bullshit even if Dom was a civilian. It's a Day 1 level accusation at best. I don't think at that point Dom believed there was any chance people were going to look at that post, nod, and commence to lynch Nanook.

I'll stop here. I want to look at sig's posts separately.

Note to self: Something I want to pay particular attention to was how Dom and others were treating therealet and that situation when I was being (completely) uncharitable toward him in the aftermath of the Day 1 lynch.

I have not had a chance to properly reflect on Dom's posts.

I aim to remedy that directly.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:37 pm Does civ sig always get paranoid and acts like a rat that's in a cage with a cat when he's the consensus (sorta) lynch for the day? anyone?

That's not "civ sig."

That's "sig."

Tedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:53 pm You’re gonna have to go 10 layers deep.

Not more Inception bullshit.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:41 pm Yeah fuck it I’m willing to lose to an Epi scum world.

Fortunately that world doesn't exist.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:34 pm
It doesn't feel like he was trying to discredit MacDougall directly, he said it was more about figuring me out. Think he thought my "town as fuck" read on Mac was bullshit and TMI-y. Felt more like some dirt my way than Mac.

This is correct.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:29 pm I might end up voting Epi, and it’s not even because of that case alone although I like it.

A lot of his actions don’t really make much sense, he goes out to discredit MacDougall, afterwards he says that everyone on the wagon was clean. (?)

Kept going back to Enrique even though his scum read on him doesn’t make sense anymore. I read back and the Enrique scum read was 100% dependent on ET’s flip and he’s still trying to go towards that.

I think he’s also playing it really safe and hates keeping mislynch pools closed. He always keeps them open.

I don’t know if you guys will actually follow me on this, but I really think you should at least consider it. Him voting sig or , fuck that, even voting for anyone when he didn’t read anything when his goal in mind was to “make sure votes aren’t tampered with and the guy with majority votes gets lynched” doesn’t make sense and it was really agenda-y.

Another thing, I asked him about whether Nova was scummier than Dom and he said “At face value, no” when he was setting Nova up and didn’t say a word about Dom.

I just think that seeing the vote count being 4-2 and then voting for someone when your goal is to make sure the votes aren’t tampered with in a game where network president is a thing, is really weird.

I know it goes against my belief of Dom tming him town because he’s scared of him, but honestly, I just don’t know why I’m alive at this point. Could be a paranoid read. I think it’s worth a shot. Epi’s considerable case was on ET and then there was nothing else townie to him, and him constantly coming back to Enrique when the reasons for accusing him are literally non existent from his PoV is weird.

Now show how "weird" = "mafia."

Tedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:00 pm ^ by the way, that is meant to explain why he wanted to get sig to 3 votes so it would be tied and make something out of Dom's lynch.

If he didn't vote beforehand, how could he have seen the voting results in order to say "seems like you didn't vote sig, let's fix that"

If you're talking about me, my vote had been on "no lynch" since the beginning of that Day.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:42 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:50 am Day one is interesting.

What sounds more likely- everyone who didn’t vote is town

Or at least one person who didn’t vote is scum?
This one epi

Do me a favor.

Quote me a post and ask me a question about it. That would help me.

And I promise I will answer.

sprityo if you're asking me about your colorful shit I really don't know. My brain doesn't function that way.

I didn't see your question sprityo.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:50 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.
Let's see how "town as fuck" Mac has been. Shall we?

He has sixteen posts (Hell, I have 87). So this shouldn't take long.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:14 am yoooo im town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:14 pmStill town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:25 am Sup fellow townies?
All right then.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:13 pm I like to play this game:

Let us assume therealet is bad (as many are).

Who are his teammates and why?

I say [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine because you should know why if you've read my posts.
Enrique is definitely someone who if they are scum is capable of being lynched. I'm always pretty cozy with an Enri wagon. Nice guy though.
This is the first noteworthy post. It says absolutely nothing.

"definitely someone who if they are scum is capable of being lynched."

Thank you, Mac. Thank you ever so much for that delightful and educational insight.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:40 pm I just voted there to see what the votes were like. Should I not be voting Nanook? Is he towny townpants?
I have no real issue with this except that Mac could have taken a few minutes to make up his own mind.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:02 pm Oi so what's the hypnotoad about?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:00 pm Yeah sig needs a noose

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:54 pm Why does the fact that I am not doing much to go off of interest you so much that you need to say it?
Because you're "town as fuck," Mac!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:00 pm I am so tired
Me too, brother.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:09 pmwhere?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:13 pm Hate red herrings.

Still want to lynch Enrique.
But it's night. We cannot do it!
Good to know.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:16 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:15 pm jfc sorry, I just got home and it's been a busy few days. I'm unaccustomed to the fast pace of mafia. I am some pages behind (not too many) and will make an effort to catch up tomorrow.
I am unaccustomed to the poop and the butt
"Town as fuck" folks.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:54 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 am The answer is that mac needs to die, I still think creature needs to die, and Epi convinced me on nova. If one of those is wrong I’ll have to make a POE and that sounds like a lot of work tbh, so I’m just gonna stick to those names.
But I am town. I don't think me dying is a good thing. Unless I get night killed.

I'm happy to get night killed though so I do encourage the scum to kill me because I am secretly solving the game really good like and just about have the whole thing wrapped up in a neat little package. You shouldn't risk leaving me alive.
Let's see how you fared.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:56 am Nova, Dom, Epi, Nanook are all town. We should make a pile.
Um...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:57 am Tedexter, Creature, Sig, Sabie12. Lynch this pile and win.
Um...

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:47 am Ha

Hahahahaha

Hahahahahahahahaha

Interesting decision you've made here. So you're on Sig's side?

I made no decision and I'm on no one's side. You ignored the context.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:06 am Ok, even if Epi has had a fucked up EoD, I still don't have enough confidence to lock him as scum. At least not at a higher level than Rej. I think he could've just had a horrible EoD as a town that didn't really read anything. This decision is helped by how Dom piggybacked off Epignosis' case and (from my PoV) was trying to gain his trust. If Rej is scum like I think he is, then look at their interactions and then look at the interactions Dom and Epi had with each other. It's like direct opposites. If he's scum with Rej, he looks to be as disassociated with scum partners as possible and he focuses more on producing anti-spew posts when he's actually talking with them. I don't think Dom had the balls to associate himself that much with Epi. From inductive reasoning, where you're looking for patterns in behaviour, if he acted one way with Rej and another way with Epi, it doesn't really make sense.

I think he just wanted to gain his trust and look like town to Epi, maybe because he respects him or whatever. Not relevant. Point is he was cozying up to him in a way that a scum does with someone that is recognised as a competent town.

But...

but...

I didn't have a horrible end of Day.

I had a great one.

I'm reading back. I was giving an impromptu piano lesson. I'll respond soon.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:30 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:47 pm I am vaguely, almost 100% positive Dom wasn't thrown under the bus in this instance.

Maybe one teammate got in on the action later on (perhaps sig out of necessity perhaps), but I agree the other names are clean.
Epi answer my universe defining question please

Yes, you should worship me, but not in the disturbing ways you described. Hot sauces and gifts of money will suffice.

I am vaguely, almost 100% positive Dom wasn't thrown under the bus in this instance.

Maybe one teammate got in on the action later on (perhaps sig out of necessity perhaps), but I agree the other names are clean.

And just what are you going to do about it?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:23 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:16 am Get out of here. Mac fakes that shit in his sleep.
No, he doesn't. Nobody does.

Okay.

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