The Syndicate

Chris wrote:Epig, why did you vote for me on day 7, and never vote for me again? And the company you're keeping in that vote doesn't look too great....

Until you get your facts right, I'm not answering this.

Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom, why did you vote for me this Day, but you never voted for me again?

Epignosis 2.0
7
Roxy (9), S~V~S (10), Chris (11), Dom (12), Long Con (14), Bass_the_Clever (19), Metalmarsh89 (22) 32%

MetalMarsh
7
MovingPictures07 (7), DFaraday (8), juliets (13), Epignosis (16), Snow Dog (17), Elohcin (20), Hedgeowl (21) 32%
I believe that was the lynch I was in NYC for and was not really paying attention tbh

Perhaps.

Dom wrote:OK guys! I'm here right now. However, today I am doing quite a bit. I'm going up to Morningside Heights, coming back down for dinner, and then seeing Hedwig. That puts me at around 10:00 get back time. I have no idea if we're gonna do anything else, so I must vote now. I feel really crappy for not participating today, but this is my mini-vacation, so I don't actually feel bad.

Thank you for the summaries, everyone. I read those. I feel quite compelled about both MM and Epig, to be honest. I think Epig is being a bit too pedantic, a bit too difficult, and a bit too rude to actually be trying to lynch baddies at this point. I also think MM could have been distancing. I will now vote for Epig. I honestly think they're both bad.

We're both bad, but you vote for me. And then, after MM is lynched, you never vote for me again? Ever?

That's distancing 101. "My teammate and Player E are both bad, but I'm going to vote Player E for now."

Dom, why did you vote for me this Day, but you never voted for me again?

Epignosis 2.0
7
Roxy (9), S~V~S (10), Chris (11), Dom (12), Long Con (14), Bass_the_Clever (19), Metalmarsh89 (22) 32%

MetalMarsh
7
MovingPictures07 (7), DFaraday (8), juliets (13), Epignosis (16), Snow Dog (17), Elohcin (20), Hedgeowl (21) 32%

S~V~S wrote:
Long Con wrote:Why is that assumption being made?
Cause Epi said so?

You witnessed my righteous indignation in Clue (sorry about that

).

I am a spreadsheet convert now.

S~V~S wrote:Really, Epi? She can't be bad cause she didn't target you?

I didn't say she couldn't be bad. Please don't twist my words. I was quite specific.

The Master is Dom or Nijuu.

Assuming that, whom would you choose?

Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:I am not the Master, Epig.
Super.

So Nijuu is then?
I don't have as many roles squared away as you seem to, so if that's what you have deduced, then yes.
Do you want to know how I know nijuu isn't The Master and that you're telling me a story?
I'm intrigued 'cause it's wrong as hell.

Mister Rearanger - Nightkilled Night 1 by The Master
Enrique was not killed by the Master
Spacedaisy -Killed N5 by The Master
Moving PIctures - Killed Night 7
Black Rock - Killed N9 by The Master

Do you know who isn't on that list? Me.

In all this time, nijuu would have tried to kill me if she had a kill. I believe that with all my filthy, dark, FEB heart. Instead, the kills were MR, Enrique, Spacedaisy, MP, and Black Rock. Odd choices from a person who has never played with Spacedaisy, and never played with Black Rock.

In conclusion:

And votes.

Addendum: Rude SVS!

Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:I am not the Master, Epig.
Super.

So Nijuu is then?
I don't have as many roles squared away as you seem to, so if that's what you have deduced, then yes.

Do you want to know how I know nijuu isn't The Master and that you're telling me a story?

Dom wrote:I am not the Master, Epig.

Super.

So Nijuu is then?

So...

Eloh died the first time. She ain't The Master.

DF apparently hinted at something or other (I don't understand how, but apparently there's a lot of that going around). So he ain't The Master.

According to my spreadsheet, that means The Master is either Dom or Nijuu.

And one of these two people shall be receiving my vote.

Chris wrote:Except there's nothing to suggest that

MovingPictures07 wrote:Anyway, I'll stop spamming now because I need to go to bed, but we need to hash out all The Master possibilities, and what we think is going on with this recruiter business.

DF is even higher on my Master list than he was yesterday, if that wasn't already apparent. This means Dom being a civ possibility seems more real to me now... but if there is one recruiter role, I still don't know who that is, so I'm a bit nervous about writing him off. DF could be that role too, in theory, but so could Blooper and technically a few others (but unlikely).

Linki w/ Epig: Seriously? Help a brother out then.

Yeah, seriously. I'm bored. Civilians can't win. It's impossible.

I'm bored.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I think it's extremely likely Elo was just a lone civvie who wasn't paying attention.

Just now figuring that out?

DFaraday wrote:I'm a little surprised I survived the night, although I guess the Cybers figure I'm an easy lynch target anyway.

I want to address the point Dom has brought up a couple of times in regards to my sudden mention of him being the Master. Dom, Ninja, the very point of it was that I had no previous opinion of you. I have people I believe to be civvie, and I have people whom I believe to be Cybermen. Thus, I figured the Master is likely in that middle range of people I haven't slotted into either of the former categories, and that included you by default. It had nothing to do with Epi having mentioned both of you previously (I think Epi is bad anyway, so why would I copy his opinions?).

And I do think SD has been defending Bass because SD is also a Cyberman.

BULLSHIT.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I happen to like MP's signature.
No worries, I'm 99% sure it'll be staying the same.

Why?

keys56000000000 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I happen to like MP's signature.
Here's hoping you also like elderly swingers' sites' ad banners

My great grandma turns 100 in April. She didn't get that way by being a swinger or falling for scams.

No, her thing was threatening trespassers with a loaded handgun. Which she still sleeps with under her pillow.

I happen to like MP's signature.

I mean adverbs, damn it.

I realize I have no credibility on the subject, but I don't suspect Snow Dog. He posts like that normally.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Snowy adds unnecessary words to his posts like that when he's bad.

Uh-huh. Where'd you learn that trick?

Well never mind. Holy shit.

S~V~S wrote:I think he's a recruited cyber.

Any reason why?

Pardon me for skimming- just got home- but why are people thinking Bass is Cyber? I see no lynch switches and lynch stops in the Cybermen roles. So he's obviously not a Cyberman- he has to be a secret role.

Chris wrote:I think Bass is the Cyber team role checker. I've been saying that. I haven't seen any reason to think otherwise.

lol

Chris wrote:I'm not accusing him of either the stop or the switch.

I was teasing.

Chris wrote:Both things that are not listed in anyone roles... that we can see.

So leave him alone.

That's a lynch switch followed by a lynch Stop.

Clue.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.
Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.
LOL, how is "civilians are fucked" not scaring anyone?

We don't even know if the recruiter is still alive, we don't know if the recruiter has been blocked, we don't even know how often the recruiter recruits, and there are so many unanswered questions... those are just about the possible recruiter role.

Do I need to get Milton Friedman back in here to talk ironically about unrealistic assumptions?
First, look at your Hall of Fame. How many civilians win? None. They won't win here either.

And you don't know. I know things.
Why, because you're a role checker or on a team with a role checker?

I just saw this and I'm about to bitch slap you to WOMENS WEEPS.

bea wrote:does this mean you would like more time to talk? Or should I just get on with it?
I'm ready to go if you are.

Get on with it bea. Show these fools.

I'm drinking.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.
Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.
LOL, how is "civilians are fucked" not scaring anyone?

We don't even know if the recruiter is still alive, we don't know if the recruiter has been blocked, we don't even know how often the recruiter recruits, and there are so many unanswered questions... those are just about the possible recruiter role.

Do I need to get Milton Friedman back in here to talk ironically about unrealistic assumptions?

First, look at your Hall of Fame. How many civilians win? None. They won't win here either.

And you don't know. I know things.

S~V~S wrote:Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.

With all the role claiming going on, what would happen if you lynched me?

How ironic would it be, with all the bullshit lie detector shit I had to go through?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Yeah... Epig, you seem to be implying you're not a civilian... and that you believe Bass is not any of those possibilities.

I don't see how we're fucked.

I imply nothing. I just said civilians are fucked.

According to my spreadsheet, that's true. I'm sorry I don't say things like "We civs" or what have you.

No, I'm not sorry.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Linkie: Do you propose we listen to you Epi?

No. Never listen to me. I'm stupid.

YES LISTEN TO ME.

Here's how I know civilians will lose.

They will vote the safest member: Bass. And they will lynch him. Super.

If Bass is not a recruiter, or recruited, or The Master, then the numbers are against you.

Guys, I design games. I live for this shit. You HAVE to play two sides against another. I have never seen this done.

Right now? Civilians are fucked.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Civilians will lose. They don't understand gaming.

Good. I think it's funny.
What are you talking about?

I mean exactly what I said. Civilians will lose.

Game theory.

Civilians will lose. They don't understand gaming.

Good. I think it's funny.

Civilians lose.

Chris wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I wouldn't try to kill the Master. Sorry- that's a wasted kill from my FEB experience that helps civilians figure things out.
What?

I am saying that if I had a kill, I wouldn't use it to kill The Master. Nope.

I wouldn't try to kill the Master. Sorry- that's a wasted kill from my FEB experience that helps civilians figure things out.

zeek wrote:linki - You suspect DF for agreeing with you?

No. Because he said this:

DFaraday wrote:Dom has been a question mark to me all game, but I at least feel confident that he's not a Cyberman (because I suspect the Cybermen to be some combination of Bass, SD, and Epig).

DFaraday wrote:Ninja: No idea.

That was today.

DFaraday wrote:
zeek wrote:DF, who do you think the Master is? Surely he's likely going to be under the radar, like yourself, so how else can a case be formed?
I am considering Dom and Ninja as possibilities, although I don't really have any evidence since, as you pointed out, since we don't know the Master as having BTSC with anyone it does make finding him difficult.

Epignosis wrote:Dom and Nijuu, zeek.

Woah- didn't see you there zeek.

Eloh is not Sarah Jane.

I read over that post twice and only now see how stupid that sounded: "Prefer as few things to be true as possible" should be understood as "prefer as few assumptions as possible."

I was out in the sun. With screaming children. Drinking. Leave me be.

Beautiful day. Watched the kids play while I tossed back a Blue Moon Farmhouse Red and picked the shit out of my twelve string. Tell you what, if I'd had any sense yesterday at the grocery store, I'd have bought a bag of charcoal and a rack of ribs.

MovingPictures07 wrote:However, Epig, why did you eliminate Chris from the possibilities? I missed that. Is it just because you assume he is who he says he is? I don't really think Chris is The Master at this point either, but am curious how you eliminated him.

Unlike Chris (

) I prefer as few things to be true as possible for my conclusion to be right. For him to be The Master (from my perspective) three things have to be assumed, and one of those I am not comfortable with. Also, for the record, my lingering suspicion of him was that he is recruited or the recruiter, not necessarily The Master, but I'm leaning away from that too now. I'm sorry if that's vaguer than you prefer, but that's all I'm saying at this time.

It would be a sin to waste this weather. I'm taking the children outside for a while.

zeek wrote:I have someone down as Sarah Jane

As do I.

zeek wrote:I'm not thinking straight tonight. I'll follow you with a DF vote seen as my Elo theory was garbage. Master needs to go.

You're not voting straight either.

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