The Syndicate

LizKeen wrote:I haven't felt good about Epi since I made that initial post about him. And tying up the vote between vompatti and zomberella didn't help.

LizKeen wrote:At this point it just appears I've made myself an easy lynch target and that sucks. If that succeeds and you all have to start saying my bad I would be taking a long look at Epignosis, Juliet's Coffee and Elohcin, TH and Vomp.

LizKeen wrote:And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Show me the strength of your
Singular eye.

S~V~S wrote:I am trying to decide why *I* think you keep getting targeted with these things.

Stake a Lizard by the throat.

Turnip Head wrote:Yes it is just like that time Epi.

Why do you think you keep getting hit with posting curses?

I am a camera.
Camera camera.

Turnip Head wrote:Who's trying to shut you up?

Listen, your friends have been broken

Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace DP. I am sorry to lose you and also genuinely confused as to why you were targeted.

Hey MM, do you believe me now that I've got your bottle?

Like the time I ran away
Turned around and you were standing close to me

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Pgnss thnks Glrck trgtd smn t gv hs wll t. Th prsn h trgtd ws th Blnd Bst, Crl vn Trsslr.

*rl chck*

f Pgnss s rght, ppl shld lk fr sddn cs md gnst smn.

Epignosis thinks Gilrick targeted someone to give his will to. The person he targeted was the Blond Beast, Carl Von Tressler.

*role check*

If Epignosis is right, people should look for a sudden case made against someone.

So Epig, what was up with this post? Now that we know the will was a fake by the baddies... I don't knwo, something about using the Smiley there seems to imply that you know something. Maybe that's not the way everyone reads it, but that's the way I read it.

What your post here did was give everyone another option to consider that was very different from the first conclusion: that the Will was faked to give Zomba credit after S~V~S was killed. I'm sure it's nothing, but it really seems to me like you were trying to save Zomba, in a way.

And there you are
Making it up that you're sure that it is a star
When all you see
Is an illusion shining down in front of me

S~V~S wrote:I had forgotten about that. I was hoping at the time that Epi would explain his train of thought better when able to talk again. At one point, he said "creative Host (- the vowels). How would he know that? What would even lead him to speculate down that path? Of all the random things that a story could be, that it was an in thread role check?

I need to do some rereading.

Hold on, hold on
Wait, maybe the answer's looking for you
Hold on, hold on
Wait, take your time think it through
Yes, I can make it through

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think I might need to re-read Epig. That post of his that LC pulled looks really different to me now that we know the second will was a fake one.

You can fool yourself

Canucklehead wrote:From our friends at the OED

Not everyone here is attending Duke.

Canucklehead wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Equivocate is an intransitive verb meaning "to use ambiguous language to conceal the truth or avoid committing oneself."

Dammit, Epi! Beat me to it whie I tried to figure out the damn Youtube tags.

Equivocate is an intransitive verb meaning "to use ambiguous language to conceal the truth or avoid committing oneself."

Clark St. this evening.

Where ya votin Conye?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What if Dom is the millionaire?

Then he got a little more powerful just now, didn't he?

Now why would you go and do that?

Because I want to lynch Dom. Is that a problem for you?

Not personally, no. I'd rather lynch Dom, but I voted Sophie because I didn't think it could still happen.

Does that look plausible right now?

Plausible? No. Possible? Yes.

Addendum: Possible? No.

Sophie wrote:Lynch switch please

Q: What do you call it when Sophie has a lynch switch?

A: Sophie's Choice

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What if Dom is the millionaire?

Then he got a little more powerful just now, didn't he?

Now why would you go and do that?

Because I want to lynch Dom. Is that a problem for you?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What if Dom is the millionaire?

Then he got a little more powerful just now, didn't he?

Grades were due today (and the system was down Friday), so I've only read along. Home now.

Dom asked this of MM:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dom wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Here is something that caught my eye today. First we have blindfaeth's original revelation that regarding the will.


Now this post doesn't match up with blindfaeth's statement. blindfaeth suggested he would inherit "a large sum of money". SVS stated that she would inherit "everything she has". SVS then confirmed that the "everything" meant items.

If SVS is on Zomba's team, this is a perfect result. SVS now has the will, and can manipulate its content to the rest of us if she wants.

If SVS is a civvie, I feel that events would have unfolded differently. Would she have voted for an "infodropper" early and before everyone else?

*cut for brevity*

would you advocate a zombi or an svs lynch first them?

Zomba. If Zomba is civ, I doubt that SVS is a baddie. But the inverse is far more likely.

Linki @TH: I find your comments this evening to be less than useful, amid some bountiful discussion.

Linki @rabbit: Agreed. Better to get the thoughts out than to take them to your grave.

The next time Dom directly references Zomb, it's here.

Now I've said multiple times before that in a two-Mafia setup, there is no civilian credit (people are welcome to continue to argue with me about that, but I'm right). But in a one-Mafia setup (such as this one), there is an advantage to making it look like you sniffed out one of your teammates.

The thing is, there was no sniffing.

Dom wrote:I think Zombs is bad.

Dom wrote:I think we should vote Zomba fwiw.

Dom wrote:And I truly believe Zombi is bad bad news.

That's everything Dom had to say about Zombarella on Day 3. No case, no push- just an early vote and three sentences that say the same thing. That's getting out of the way of the shit before it hits the fan, I say.

What do we do with politicians?

We vote for them.

S~V~S wrote:I would wax more fulsome in my praise of Epignosis, but alas, I lack the time this AM. This one is pretty legit

Epignosis, you are a smart guy. You have good instincts, and you are definitely a better civvie than you give yourself credit for being (or than I give you credit for being; you know I am just ragging you). I enjoy playing with you when we are on the same side, and I am challenged by you when we are not. You have made me a better player, and I am probably not the only one.

Happy Monday; I hope you go about your day with a spring in your step

I appreciate that. I feel quite the same way about you. I also find your endgame insights to be highly edifying.

Dom wrote:Your anti-government bias reeks.
Not all politicians are evil. You are believing a lie sold to you by people much richer than you will ever be. Sometimes you have to be politically saavy to win a game of Mafia. And that's why you never win as a civ.

I didn't say all politicians are evil. I said that I hate government. Changing my wording only cements my thinking that you're behaving like a politician.

And I won once.

Granted, it was a llama game, and and the mafia tried to kill me three times, and I got misinformation from the host, which screwed up my spreadsheet for days, which almost got me lynched....but I won. Once.

I'm sorry, MetalMarsh89. That wasn't very nice of me.

The reason I voted for you on Day 2 was that I thought you were the Millionaire, and therefore a threat to me. I believed you were using your self-voting tactic to secure yourself a spot in the next Day without garnering much scrutiny. I believed you and Long Con were teammates. I believed you might have killed Black Rock, even though I presented the idea initially as a joke.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, why did you want to lynch MM 1.0?

Because fuck you.

Dom wrote:

Zombarella wrote:Today it would be cool to hear more from:

Shep, Bea, A Person, MP, Liz Keen, Sophie, and Eloh.

I'd love to hear more of your thoughts.

Sophie?
Really?

Zombarella didn't say she suspected Sophie, only that she wanted to hear more from her (as well a hundred other people).

And Dom dropped four eyes on her.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!

Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out.

Four more and you get a dollar!

Elohcin has no idea that, by introducing a disciplinary system we use at home in a thread with no context, she has made herself look like a prostitute.

You've already done that to yourself in the speakeasy.

No, you fail at Robocop.

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!

Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out.

Four more and you get a dollar!

Elohcin has no idea that, by introducing a disciplinary system we use at home in a thread with no context, she has made herself look like a prostitute.

Turnip Head wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Yeah...

My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?

I'm on the fence about Dom at the moment. I have some concerns, not least of which he is that he threw the first vote on Zomba and is now trying to make DP's vote for Vomp look bad in contrast. For all we know, Dom voted for his sinking teammate first to distance as much as he could.

I'd be interested to know what Dom thinks of Sophie, and vice versa. And what they both think of Vompatti.

linki @ Dom: I guess you could say I find the timing of your vote just as odd then :P

I ask you this because I think Dom is being a politician.

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:Dom, the one thing I keep coming back to about SVS, it will be interesting to get your thoughts on this...

If she was bad, why come out and be the first one to have the theory that she was supposed to die, she still had the will, lol the baddies failed to kill her and therefore the story in the newspaper must be a fake? After all, that is how most of the heat on zombs started?

Why not just come out and go... yeah, the will was stolen...

Seems like a very odd baddie plot to put a story in the newspaper that appears to clear Zombs, then immediately start going after her in the thread. Not to mention, no-one else has claimed any reason for why there might not have been a NK.

I don't entirely disagree with you. I won't be funning for SVS this next lynch-- unless something drastic happens. It does give me pause about her, though.

Golden's dead.

Now read Dom's response a time or two.

"I don't entirely disagree with you."

That's politician-speak, folks.

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Yup, you are. You get the gold star for being the only player worth anything!

Well, okay, but you're not the person handing the stars out.

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

I'm paying attention. Its just all a bit over my head.

At 5'1", that's not at all surprising.

Turnip Head wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Yeah...

My turn to ask you one, fucking thief.

What do you make of Dom?

Ironically, I feel like I'm the only person in this game paying any attention.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:So here is my main question. If Turnip Head is one of the roles that allows him to steal an item (Tim Waldo, Sophie Kratzenschneiderwümpel, Casimer Jech, Luke McCracken, or Ichabod Chang), what good would it do him to come into the thread and say he "just ended up with the bottle last night"?

TH, why do you think you ended up with the bottle?

Bitch fuckin' robbed my ass.

Turnip Head wrote:You could just say I was in the right place at the right time.

I had you penciled in for another role, but not anymore.

Turnip Head wrote:It's a true story though, Marshy. I have your bottle now.

Fucking thief.

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

juliets wrote:Metalmarsh I don't understand what you are saying about Epi's comment re: his bottle getting stolen from his safe. Could you rephrase please?

Perhaps I am jaded because I am already suspicious of Epignosis and TH, but TH came in and said that he ended up with the bottle last night. Epignosis responded that the bottle was stolen from him last night. For this to be true, TH would probably be some non-baddie role.

So, I wonder if this is true.

I voted you, got the bottle, put it in my safe, my safe got cracked, someone else got my bottle, and now TH has the bottle. You do the math, fella.

I was going to use the bottle on Eloh to ask her if she wanted to have a threesome anytime soon. Alas.

Do you really need the bottle to ask that? And as for my answer....sounds tempting. Who's in?

thellama73 I'm going to need a replacement. I'll be on craigslist if anyone needs me.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

juliets wrote:Metalmarsh I don't understand what you are saying about Epi's comment re: his bottle getting stolen from his safe. Could you rephrase please?

Perhaps I am jaded because I am already suspicious of Epignosis and TH, but TH came in and said that he ended up with the bottle last night. Epignosis responded that the bottle was stolen from him last night. For this to be true, TH would probably be some non-baddie role.

So, I wonder if this is true.

I voted you, got the bottle, put it in my safe, my safe got cracked, someone else got my bottle, and now TH has the bottle. You do the math, fella.

I was going to use the bottle on Eloh to ask her if she wanted to have a threesome anytime soon. Alas.

Eloh never listens to me.

Turnip Head wrote:Epi, considering that you just hosted her, what do you make of Sophie so far?

I only hosted her one time, but Sophie was aggressive in Roger Rabbit. I'm not seeing that here. I think fingersplints made this point earlier, and I agree.

Addendum, and now so has Bass.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If it helps you, Turnip Head, I don't mind telling you that I stored my bottle in my shiny safe, and it was stolen anyway.

Most of being doesn't believe this whole story even for a second.

Try that again, MM, and this time try not to slobber.

If it helps you, Turnip Head, I don't mind telling you that I stored my bottle in my shiny safe, and it was stolen anyway.

Yo, LC, I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you finish...

Elohcin wrote:I don't think you should out me if that's what you mean. But I have no clue how I have been "obvious" or how you could know my role.

No. I don't want to do that. But you've been obvious.

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.

So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!

Who used to be a sockface.

I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.

For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?

I'm pretty sure I know your role. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.

How?

Do you really want me to answer that? You've been quite obvious.

S~V~S wrote:Epignosis, you are a Mafia God. Everyone, especially me, is in awe of you. I am humbled by the total amazeballs that is you. Very seriously, no orange involved.

"Amazeballs" isn't really a word.

S~V~S wrote:Epignosis, You remind me of a baby polar bear sliding down a rainbow into a pot of gold, with a fucking unicorn.

Are you calling me gay?

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.

So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!

Who used to be a sockface.

I wonder how far this goes though. Epi, you say they "switched roles". They were impersonating one another. So....if someone targeted A Person for something, did they really get Bass? Interesting to think about.

For everyone! Did any of you suspect this at all?

I'm pretty sure I know your role. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.

And I'm not. Because I'm fucking KIRBY LAZY SACK OF SHIT.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.

So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!

Who used to be a sockface.

I hate being one-upped. Unless I'm Mario.

thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Metalmarsh89 is replacing A Person.

So now Metalmarsh is A Person who used to be Bass!

So APerson and Bass_the_Clever switched roles. Interesting.

Long Con wrote:And I say "supposedly" because that curse gave Golden one vote for every vowel he used. You used AT LEAST 5 vowels that I was aware of, and I didn't even have to look that hard. 5 would have tied you up with Vomps and Zombs, and one more would have put you over the edge. And yet you didn't get lynched. Interesting. Why did you fake being cursed?

Ah, ah, ah. Fortunately someone here knows I wasn't faking.

Long Con wrote:And look at you, trying to beg sympathy from everyone because you "haven't been able to speak normally since Day 1". So you couldn't manage to express anything you needed to express during Day Two, when it was known to everyone that you had the jokey influence of having to answer questions with a "yes"? Are you joking? Why do you NEED to make plays like this, it's just not honest. You supposedly couldn't post vowels between Night 2 and Night 3. Has there been ANY other curses this game? Are we going to see more like that? I'll be very interested to see.

Damn right. It sucks, especially when you have a Long Con who wants your neck in a noose. You want to talk dishonest? See your assumption that a curse in one game operates exactly as it did in another. See your loaded question about faking a curse that follows that assumption. See the fact that you voted for me on Day 2 without even giving me a second to respond. So let us not pretend like you would have given one shart what my response would have been.

Long Con wrote:"Pressuring others to talk about me"?? Do I even have to address that? Sorry, I'll just keep all my thoughts to myself from now on, I wouldn't want to pressure anyone.

"Hey George! What do you think of Epig?" "Hey Sam! What do you think of Epig?" "Hey Eunice! What do you think of Epig?"

Those aren't your thoughts. Are they?

Long Con wrote:I don't know what this "full participant" talk is, so if anyone beside Epig wants to fill me in on what he means, I'm all ears.

And I'm all eyes.

LizKeen wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And I'm the one who tied it up.

Yes, interesting that.

Epignosis wrote:No...I was tying it up. I would have voted the other way around had it been 7-6 Vompatti.

Just...why?

LizKeen wrote:Epi, do you hate me? I hope not, I'm really not a terrible person but this is a game and players gotta play. But I'm seeing a lot of "well Epi might be bad but I'm not sure yet". Feels like deflection from voting him.

Who is "him?" You were talking to me right?

There are lots of things I hate. Government. Being out of beer. The media obsession with asses (literal and otherwise). Beets.

You, my dear, would have a hard time making that list.