The Syndicate

Hey Sloonei.

Dem figures from da hood.

How corrupted you is?

Voted.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Linki: What's a wasted opportunity?

To not use your vote strategically. It isn't vacant of value right now even if it might not be your final choice.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Look at me, capitalizing sentences (and fragments) like a real boy.

Split infinitive!

You know what I hate worse than rainbow lists?

Rainbow lists that make no sense.

nutella wrote:Sloonei
Golden
JJJ
SVS
Spacedaisy

Gumshoe
Niju (putting her in the middle because I was suspicious of her but am inclined to trust Golden and can see her as civ)

Devin
Epignosis
Metalmarsh

Neverwhere
DFaraday
Fingersplints

Gumshoe hasn't posted since Night 1. What warrants his place in your top six?

Devin hasn't posted since Night 1. What warrants his place lower than Gumshoe and nijuukyugou but higher than me?

I'm pleased to see brown was used in this "rainbow read." It's fitting.

nijuukyugou wrote:I will be absent for the rest of today due to traveling and visiting the most awesomest family in the entire world but I will be back tomorrow to discuss and vote.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Is that so? I'm not sure I believe that.

It is so. I don't mean that I wanted the final tally to be a tie, but a tie during the final stretch could have definitely generated interesting content from those looking to avoid it however they may. It's not an accusation though.

Epignosis wrote:Is there any reason you left out the part where I said I was going to hold onto my vote to ensure that there would not be a tie?

Because it wasn't an accusation. The only mildly accusatory text I sent your way was my inquiry about your change of heart on Hedgeowl.

Epignosis wrote:I changed my mind.

If that Hedgeowl post inspired you to change your mind, what made you read her with non-suspicion before that?

Your post seemed a tad revisionist to me, but fair enough.

Experience with evil Hedgeowl has led me to believe that Hedgeowl is a team player, eager to do whatever her team needs of her with a warm smile and a whetted knife. I have been bad with her three times, I think.

I dismissed that experience for two reasons.

First, the night posts have been written in such a way that they reveal when someone has been targeted and survives, versus when (presumably) no one has been targeted. That indicates a want of activity, I daresay.

Second- and I know people will dislike me for this and I give no shits- if a person isn't voting, then you don't lessen the civilian tally by voting the person out. With potentially missed kills, you may nab Mafia. People don't like voting no-shows because it's the "easy" way, but sometimes the easy way is also the right way.

I must go now. My people need me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:More people have not voted than have.

Maybe I will tie it up.

I wish you had.

Is that so? I'm not sure I believe that.

Is there any reason you left out the part where I said I was going to hold onto my vote to ensure that there would not be a tie?

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Why'd you go with Hedge?

I don't suspect Hedgeowl.

I changed my mind.

I hope Dom posts soon.

I can't wait for 3J to tear us a new one if we're wrong.

fingersplints wrote:I think there is quite a few who will likely miss the vote

You don't say?

More people have not voted than have.

Maybe I will tie it up.

nijuukyugou wrote:I'm going for splints.

Mmm...

...I appreciate free thought and everything, but I'd have sure rather you'd voted Hedgeowl than fingersplints.

mmm hmm.

Tell you what I'm going to do.

Sit back.

Drink a bunch of Mexican imports while enjoying some Tex-Mex pork fresh off the grill.

Hold onto my vote.

And make sure there isn't a tie.

Golden wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I do not. Well I will admit I could be wrong,

What I really want is someone who can say 'I was targetted by Jekyll'.

I thought it might have been epi when he voted for devin, but he has essentially denied that to be the case.

SVS pursuit of ninja might fall into this category, though. But, it depends how much each individual really wants to pursue it day after day. I, for one, did not want to push someone I didn't think was bad day after day, so I didn't. If it means I have +1 votes against me each day, so be it.

So shouldn't you be needing someone's vote to save you?

At this point, I will repeat my vote from the previous Day or I will vote Hedgeowl.

I have a more nuanced take, since you've raised this particular post:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Golden wrote:Hedgeowl - if several people ended up voting for LC or SVS today, would you consider that there seemed to be good reasons for that, or are you saying that you find the reasons to suspect LC and SVS unconvincing?

Oh I am not saying that. Did I say that? I was commenting on the earlier discussion about newbies, which SVS and LC are not. I am sympathetic to LC because of Epi's accusation around the word "interesting" but that's more because I am someone who overuses this word in life. I do find SVS' defense interesting (!) however. I would not say I am ready to vote based on any of this yet though. Mostly, I think there been a lot of huffing and puffing and MP's redonkulous rainbow list aside ( ), not much noteworthy in 5 pages that took me too long to read, so I agree with Epi there. I will say so far he reads like civ Epi to me, and I can never tell very well with LC.

what are ISOs that everyone is mentioning? I assume not In Search Of...

First underlining: What exactly is Hedgeowl agreeing with me about here?

Second underlining: Hedgeowl and Long Con have played six times here together (not counting Omerta, in which Hedgeowl was an independent). Fight Club and Monopoly were not typical Mafia experiences.

Hedgeowl was a secret recruiter role in Dr. Who- no real need to figure much out with Long Con.

In Cars, Hedgeowl was good and Long Con was bad, but Hedgeowl had five living posts the entire game.

In the Game of Champions, Hedgeowl never voted, and I don't think she even posted once (in fact, she got lynched because her role took cumulative votes every Day unless she used her Night action, which she never did). Note that there is no "link" next to her name.

Monty Python is the only game in which is could be said Hedgeowl and Long Con spent any "time" together.

So my question: What experience with Long Con compels Hedge to say, "I can never tell very well with LC?"

There's more than that who have not voted. Posted, you mean?

ere

here

HERE

WHO IS HERE?!!

Who is here

I don't suspect Hedgeowl.

I know nothing about Tiny Bubbles, man. Only that they pop before their time.

Golden wrote:

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Gonna look into Hedgeowl. So many creepy quiet players in this game.

She sorta disappeared after Day 6. Most of her game was her dealing with the anxiety of catching up every time she'd come in. I had her as genuinely flustered all the time, and light civ. Probably on the play level of Tiny Bubbles except she didn't keep affirming that she was civ like Tiny was wont to do

Hedgeowl went on a trip to wisconsin for ten days and warned us she would likely be without internet - although that could have only happened in the Guess Who thread.

And we lynched her anyway.

I don't suspect DFaraday.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Golden wrote:DF is the master at posting low, sounding civilian, and providing actual views in the posts he does post.

I can't remember having played with him when he is bad. It would have been many years ago if I have. I don't see much different from his civ meta.

He was bad in Flash Mafia, but was NK'd Night 1, so that's not a good sample. After that, I can't remember a game where DF was bad.

But I would agree with you, he has a self-described style of low posting and becoming more active as the game goes on [source not available].

"DFaraday is one of those consistent hobgoblins. The tone of his posts when he is bad matches the tone of his posts when he is good. I have been evil with him a few times, and even now I couldn't tell you much about him. His general Mafia strategy is to lie low and become more active when the herd is culled, but that is what he does when he is good. Consistent hobgoblin."

Who says that? I say that.

Dom wrote:The Trivia Game will go up tomorrow at 10:30 PM EST

Let me know if that time is horrifically bad for a majority of you.

I can play at that time.

Scotty wrote:

Golden wrote:The biggest reason I have for bass being bad?

Team 2 tried to get him lynched (eg BR) and when it hadn't succeeded they tried to NK him. I think they might have known something.

I sincerely hope Bass doesn't flip civ because that would honestly piss me off. Like a flirty girl leading me on at the bar, drunkenly suggesting I drive her home and then when we get there confessing she has a boyfriend and thanks for the ride, ya sap.
That's what it would feel like.

Also fun side note: Epi and I both have the same number of posts this game.

We do not.

My vote stays on blooper because I don't care about sweets, and I am not going to live in that bag.

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Note that Bass has not voted to save himself.

That means nothing to me besides that he's lazy, like usual.

I don't agree. I've been on a team with Bass before.

nijuukyugou wrote:Oh look, a save attempt! You guys are so funny

But seriously, you're so wrong about me.

Why Bass over you?

And make it funny.

I'll seriously switch my vote if you make me laugh once. Go.

Note that Bass has not voted to save himself.

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:At this point we're getting awfully close to that dreaded tie. Please at least don't make it a tie.

Also Epi, you know I'm kidding, right? Hell, I'm more surprised that I got a rise out of you more than anything.

It's not a rise. I don't know who is kidding and who isn't. The schtick from people is old, and I'm tired of explaining why it isn't a joke. It was a one-time specific thing I found suspicious. And I was right.

People should leave it be.

If you can joke with 60% of your posts in this game, then I feel entitled to at least have a little fun as well. Although if you feel it's personal, then I won't bring it up again, cause I don't want to get personal

You're right. That was short of me.

Tee hee.

Not Naught Nijuu

NAUGHTY NIJUU

That's what I meant.

I already switched my voted to nijuu. I think she's naught nijuu.

Bass gets lynched for really stupid reasons.

Lynch nijuu.

Scotty wrote:At this point we're getting awfully close to that dreaded tie. Please at least don't make it a tie.

Also Epi, you know I'm kidding, right? Hell, I'm more surprised that I got a rise out of you more than anything.

It's not a rise. I don't know who is kidding and who isn't. The schtick from people is old, and I'm tired of explaining why it isn't a joke. It was a one-time specific thing I found suspicious. And I was right.

People should leave it be.

The word "interesting" in itself is not a red flag. It never was. Please stop acting like it is or using it ironically. It isn't funny and you only look foolish doing so.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:lemme get some stances from y'all. we've had a number of replacement players enter this game and a few of them (including me) have really not been read by anyone else (when i say "read" i mean the stance kind). i'd like to see people tell me what think right now about:

JJJ - Doesn't read his own paper
Epignonsis 2.0 - Spider-Man
Canucklehead - Electro
S~V~S 2.0- Dr. Octopus

There.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't see where I took anything out of context there.

of course you don't. you're you. i did then, and i do again now.

i'm not going to get into a debate about the content of a different mafia game, so that's all i have to say about it.

You started it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epi seems to like doing this kind of this -- he didn't care about context at all when he made accusations as a townie in our last game together. that's not an insult, i think it can be a valid approach if done with the proper care.

No, not an insult, and not taken as one.

But I would like you to show how "in our last game together" I "didn't care about context at all" on Day 1.

Go.

it's basically every accusation i leveled against you in that game because of your conduct regarding Dragon D. Luffy. i thought you were being manipulative intentionally to make him look stupid. i'll fetch a specific example.

Here you go. It was my perception of you then and I see at least one example now. It's not an accusation because you were town then; it's an observation. Maybe unfair, maybe not.

I don't see where I took anything out of context there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epi seems to like doing this kind of this -- he didn't care about context at all when he made accusations as a townie in our last game together. that's not an insult, i think it can be a valid approach if done with the proper care.

No, not an insult, and not taken as one.

But I would like you to show how "in our last game together" I "didn't care about context at all" on Day 1.

Go.

Golden wrote:Also, I'd like to know if you think bubbles could be jekyll or not? Do you personally think that is possible?

I thought TB was bad, so yeah. But I don't have any evidence beyond that to say so. Seemers gonna seem.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:my only exposure to Epi prior to this game was Day/Night 1 of economics. it was said then that his volatile methods of casing MP and DDL were typical of him. i would then ask if this version of Epi is "typical", in which he makes a habit of saying nothing at every opportunity?

I don't believe I have said nothing, J. Jonah Jameson. Read your Daily Bugle a little harder.

don't tell me to read shit right after you tell someone else you didn't read shit

But sir! It's your own paper!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:my only exposure to Epi prior to this game was Day/Night 1 of economics. it was said then that his volatile methods of casing MP and DDL were typical of him. i would then ask if this version of Epi is "typical", in which he makes a habit of saying nothing at every opportunity?

I don't believe I have said nothing, J. Jonah Jameson. Read your Daily Bugle a little harder.

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm voting Golden.

Way to go, fella.

I'm surprised you still chose to vote for me after my response to your case

I didn't read it.

You should.

Does my singular vote bother you?

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm voting Golden.

Way to go, fella.

I'm surprised you still chose to vote for me after my response to your case

I didn't read it.

I'm voting Golden.

Way to go, fella.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:bummer dude. who's bad news?

Sorry. I don't know at the moment.

I was too busy winning elsewhere.

Stand by.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:My vote is worth three.

Where oh where shall I place it?

if that's the case you can certainly add some excitement to the current tally situation. town and mafia alike are going to feel no pressure voting for Bass right now regardless of his alignment. you should help change that by voting for someone else. i don't much care who.

It's not the case.

I just said that hoping people would like me.

My vote is worth three.

Where oh where shall I place it?