The Syndicate

nijuukyugou wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:Hooray! Go Scotty! Now we can feast

I told y'all zebra was bad Good game, everyone!
You killed me, didn't you, you bitch.
The WIFOM was delicious

Well just for that I hope you lo-

Shit.

nijuukyugou wrote:Hooray! Go Scotty! Now we can feast

I told y'all zebra was bad Good game, everyone!

You killed me, didn't you, you bitch.

sig wrote:I almost protected Epi the night he was killed, but decided against it and went for snow dog I believe.

Always protect me, sig. Even if you think I'm bad, protecting me always helps me.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Got Black Rock and nijuukyugou. Another game where I go hamish and still lose.
What does "go hamish" mean?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p316395

Got Black Rock and nijuukyugou. Another game where I go hamish and still lose.

Uh-huh.

Snow Dog wrote:Not comfortable witj this boomslang lynch

Me neither.

DrWilgy wrote:I really want to think that if Boomslang is good, Epi must be bad... Unfortunately the existence of 2 teams undermines this thought.

I'd love to hear the pretzel logical behind what you want to think.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?
Why do you want to lynch her?
No reason.
I don't object. Why don't you vote for her? Get this party started!!

Okay.

Soneji wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:I think it's a weak vote from Vompatti.

Here's my take:

Long Con wrote:If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.
I haven't decided which side I believe yet. If it is a slip, then it's such a delicious catch and I would hate to disregard it. On the other hand, I could easily see myself making that careless assumption, so it's hard to bring the hammer down.
My view on that is that Soneji is accustomed to single-mafia games. If you get whacked, then you're good.

Narutoforums is the king of role madness games and I've probably played more games with multiple mafia than a single one. I have hosted three of NF's Favorites games and all three have had three mafia, with distinct mafia faction bonuses.

Okay then. I can't help you.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?
Why do you want to lynch her?

No reason.

Long Con wrote:I think it's a weak vote from Vompatti.

Here's my take:

Long Con wrote:If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.
I haven't decided which side I believe yet. If it is a slip, then it's such a delicious catch and I would hate to disregard it. On the other hand, I could easily see myself making that careless assumption, so it's hard to bring the hammer down.

My view on that is that Soneji is accustomed to single-mafia games. If you get whacked, then you're good.

Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?

I think my friend nijuukyugou has gone overlooked. Time to change that.

Ten posts, and five are banter. So that's five posts to consider:

Spoiler: show

1. Is happy for a quiet Day 1.
2. Admits it makes it hard to formulate opinions on people.
3. Names two people who are big talkers (despite calling Day 1 quiet)- Nacho and MP.
4. Laments innocent people getting lynched Day 1 for having a contrarian perspective while quiet people coast.
5. Names six coasters (casting a wide net).
6. Likes what Soneji had to say about Wilgy, and voted Wilgy.

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nijuukyugou wrote:Woo, caught up! That was quite an emotional thread period

Probably gonna rehash a lot of what was said, but that's the bane of my gameplay in catch-up/mega posts. I deals with it. This is gonna be a stream-of-consciousness one, because.

Frustrated MP could be either MP. I'm inclined to see it as bad because I was on a team with him when he faked it and I hate being bamboozled, but I know he is an emotional player of any alignment. And he has been lynched early lately because of it (at least what I have noticed) being in any alignment, which is hella frustrating, I know. Today, I will be looking elsewhere. Why? It's Day 2 and I'm still in Day 1 mode of this sort of thought process:

Epignosis wrote:Time to cull the less actives.
Because lately, I also feel like less actives have been ignored, and I want to change that still. I have been less active lately and have been rewarded for it, yet when I am more active, I have been killed. Boo to that. Encourages non-participation and riding on one's laurels *steps off soapbox*

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to lynch Epignosis.
Voted for Black Rock.

Your turn.
I'll bite - any other reason you voted her besides inactivity? Or are you cherry-picking and waiting for reactions? I like it.

Zebra can talk! Now what does she have to say? Right now, the long-lasting smiley thing doesn't make her look good to me. Gets her out of discussion while also giving off a vibe of, "Hey, I can't possibly be bad if I do something craaaaaaazy!" Looks contrived. Want to see more content.

What happened to Wilgy? Might vote him again. But minds can be changed.

Was Nacho silenced? Hmm.

Long Con wrote:On the other hand, rainbow lists can paint a target on the heads of those who are deemed most Civ.
This is why I hate rainbow lists. On the other hand, I do use them to determine someone's alignment based on how they rate me. Self-centered, perhaps, but it's been working decently well. Mostly hate for rainbows, though.

I think that's all I have for now. Happy to address whatever, or discuss whatever. I feel like a normal human again, both in workload and health

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP Golden.

Seriously, who the hell would kill Golden in his comeback game? Heartless bastards, that's who.

I haven't caught up, and still won't until I've finished all my preparations for Parks and Recreation Mafia hosting. Sorry. I should be around at some point today though and I'll be ISOing you folks. So be prepared.
So a page full of MP posts. So, normal mafia.

1. Thinks MP is bad but would prefer to look elsewhere. What's the purpose there? If you think someone is bad, you press that person until he confesses, What you don't do is say, "MP is likely going to murder me in my sleep. I better let him go about his business."
2. Again laments about active people getting taken out instead of inactive people.
3. This: "I'll bite - any other reason you voted her besides inactivity? Or are you cherry-picking and waiting for reactions? I like it." How am I supposed to answer that? If I am doing something to get reactions, it is completely counterproductive to say, "Yes, I am just trying to get reactions."
4. Calls zebra's smiley business contrived.
5. Might vote Wilgy again. Couple 4 and 5 and what you have are two non-Black Rock avenues for nijuukyugou to vote. She ultimately chooses Door #4.
6. Asks if Nacho was silenced.
7. Hates rainbow lists.
8. Comments on MP's verbosity.

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1. Refrains from further comment about rainbow lists.

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1. Reminds Mr. Talkative that it's the middle of the workday.
2. Agrees with MP's negative opinion about sig. Killing MP might accomplish two tasks: Shut MP up and frame sig.
3. I need to highlight this:

I still want to knock off inactives/slight inactives. There is no reason except inactivity to vote BR, so that's cool with me. I want to know where Wilgy went. You say zebra has played a detached and gut-read game in the past, but what she's doing right now is just detached without even gut reads. It's just...randomness. Chaotic. It's the same reason I voted Wilgy Day 1 - zebra's behavior is not civ, whatever she's doing.

So I'm good with voting any of those (includes sig, but less so than the inactives), and I need to get back to work. I'm going to mull over it a bit (maybe ten minutes or so) before I make the final call.

Again, this leaves open a number of avenues for nijuukyugou to vote in case the Black Rock vote picked up steam. Notice again the claimed desire to knock off inactives and slight inactives, but the hesitance regarding a vote for Black Rock.

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nijuukyugou wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This game is like a patient in the ICU. Where is everyone? Where is the baddie hunting?

Seriously folks, why should I even try if the rest of you aren't going to do shit? Honest question because I'm feeling a bit frustrated with this entire day cycle's wasted potential right now.
It's the middle of the day for many of us, dude. You know this. I'm only on because it happens to be a day where my planning is in the afternoon. And it'll be a holiday soon. And it's Day 2. Cool your jets :P

As for your sig review, what pings me more than anything about what he's been saying is his being so resolute that an entire mafia team couldn't have missed its kill last Night. This sort of thing has been happening in several games lately on this site. It would be one thing to offer his counter arguments, but to so staunchly oppose it as a non-possibility? Nah. Looks defensive. Pings real bad.

I still want to knock off inactives/slight inactives. There is no reason except inactivity to vote BR, so that's cool with me. I want to know where Wilgy went. You say zebra has played a detached and gut-read game in the past, but what she's doing right now is just detached without even gut reads. It's just...randomness. Chaotic. It's the same reason I voted Wilgy Day 1 - zebra's behavior is not civ, whatever she's doing.

So I'm good with voting any of those (includes sig, but less so than the inactives), and I need to get back to work. I'm going to mull over it a bit (maybe ten minutes or so) before I make the final call.
Look, I know right now is the middle of the day, I'm referring to all of Day 2. There has been next to no discussion of anyone other than inactives for the past nearly 48 hours, and that's what bothered me, not just the lack of current content. Anyway, I was just venting. Feel free to ignore that nonsense.

Help me out here; you lost me a bit with your thoughts on sig. Why is it that his staunch opposition pings you? Like, walk me through the mindset of why a mafia sig would do that, that's where I'm lost.

She provided gut reads in saying BR and Epi are town and Snow Dog is bad, for example, but yes, they're completely unsubstantiated. The only problem with just lynching everyone who behaves in such a way (your bolded/underlined sentiment) is that just because someone is behaving chaotically does not mean their role card is mafia. It is up to us to make a determination based on the available content. I don't think lynching inactives blindly right now will serve us anything particularly productive; if we happen to hit a member of the mafia, great, but it's essentially flipping a coin.
True about a chaotic player not necessarily pulling a mafia role, but their behavior doesn't help civs. A lynch vote for zebra would not be a blind vote for an inactive - it would be voting for someone who I think is exhibiting non-civ (and I'll just outright say it - mafia-or-indy-chaotic) behavior.

What I'm saying about sig's opposition to the idea is that it sounds defensive of inactive mafia behavior, i.e., steering people away from discussing inactivity as more than a possibility for an entire mafia team because he doesn't want us to look at them. As in, perhaps he is part of an inactive mafia team, and is defending it because oh shit, they all missed their kill chance last night, better cover it up. That's what it looks like when the behavior of late on the site points to the opposite of his stance.

And I think the discussion of inactives needs to happen - personally, I'm tired of seeing it ignored and seeing active players lynched so early and then having a dead game, so I'm happy we're going on that vein this game. Hell, it's encouraging ME to post! (Well, that and I also have more time recently to play than I have in the past couple of games.) Lynch inactives, encourage participation through group force :P

With that, I'll vote zebra today, even if it's for pressure. Gotta finish grading these quizzes, dammit.

1. MP voiced concern about "blindly" voting for inactives, and nijuu counters by saying that a vote for zebra is not a blind vote for an inactive, but a vote for someone exhibiting non-civilian behavior. So I want to circle back to the first on-topic post: nijuukyugou lamented inactives coasting but people who do things outside of the box being fair game. Isn't that what zebra was doing? I would think my friend nijuu would have been more eager to lynch someone with two posts than someone who was just being goofy.
2. Says sig looks like part of an inactive mafia team, which concedes the point that one of the mafia teams is inactive...yet she still votes for zebra, who was at least present.
3. Raises the banner of lynching inactives...
4. Votes zebra, who was zany, not inactive. And zebra had more on-topic things to say than Black Rock.

That fellow looks corpulent indeed. I'm thinking it may be wise to trim some of the fat from the midsection.

Nachomamma8 wrote:The more significant point was Wigly suspicion coming out of nowhere and Quin suspicion dropping out of nowhere.

I'm of the opinion that a civilian is more likely to do that than Mafia, who generally like to try to remain consistent. If Boomslang wanted to really drive the lynch away from Black Rock, he should have made a stronger case against Quin, but he didn't do that.

So I'm less inclined to think Boomslang is a pirate.

Scotty wrote:Disneyland was great. Except for a small child screaming behind me in the Pinocchio ride blowing out my eardrums. I hope he grows up with a minor allergy of some sort

Woo GG Epi!
I must say that I am not surprised she flipped bad, but I also would not have voted her if zebra had had a train of her own going when I voted. I still think zebra is fishy as fuck, but now that BR has flipped bad, I'm in the mind that her teammates are probably also the ones on my list:
-Boom
-Soneji
One of Nacho, Mac, Motel room 2.0, ninja and DF

And that's just for the pirate team.

The cannibals will be trickier to catch- they probably killed Golden, and are probably active.

My current fear is that Epi is a cannibal and has been ringleadering as a supatown so that we'll give him Cred. I might just be paranoid tho.

MP- if I'm alive tomorrow, I think I'll have some time before my show to properly answer your sig case. Until then, I gotta go run errands.

My issue with Soneji is that he looks salty that I led the masses against Black Rock for what some perceived to be asinine and unlikely reasons. Mafia hate it when they are caught for "the wrong reasons." And for that reason, if Soneji is bad, I'd say he's a pirate.

But that's an if.

Nacho gave a quick and believable reason for not remembering DF being dead. If Nacho were a regular here, I wouldn't buy it, but Nacho is not a regular here. My opinion on Nacho fluctuates.

Speaking of Nacho, I need to revisit the crux of Nacho's post against Boomslang, since I apparently missed the point.

Scotty wrote:Nijuu, I wanna hear more from you. You're still on my watch list of pirate compatibilities with Soneji, Boom, Nacho and Mac.

Hey @Epi!! What do you think of the notion that other BR teammates are on my shortlist? You sorta dropped that after gunning for BR. I would think you would be excited of the prospects of nailing another.

(Unpopular opinion..): Unless your teammate BR just wanted to be thrown under the bus and you're ready to move on. It would explain how out of the multiple inactives I mentioned, you chose BR. It just seems like you either learned something via night you can't disclose in thread or you yourself are her teammate. Just so you know not every player thinks you are supertown for sniping her
For now, I do like the hunting you're doing, and I'm not looking to vote you at the present, I'm just paranoid

Despite the fact that except for one time I don't go out of my way to run over my teammates (not nearly as often as people claim or imagine, anyway), there are some people I wouldn't do that to, and Black Rock is one of them.

The names on the poll look like a man with a hat and large shoes. Seriously. Cool stuff.

nijuukyugou wrote:I intended to catch up tonight, but I forgot how stupid exhausting driving for hours is. I will do catch up and posting sometime tomorrow when I'm not cooking/socializing.

This sounds like a PM misser.

Long Con had little to say regarding Black Rock when she was under fire. That's concerning, but not alarming.

Vompatti wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm going to be blunt. None of your conversations are useful in finding mafia. None.

Get thee behind me Satans.
Is this because the objectively best method to find mafia is to randomize at every lynch?

Not quite. A random vote, you see, invites a higher level of chance into your decision. Mafia requires you to discern who is good and who is bad, so an optimal vote involves critical thinking and observation.

DrWilgy wrote:
Scotty wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Y'know what...

I still think mp was bad.
I do too.
To both of you: why.

And how does that help you sort things out right now?
His vague rainbow early game. It was non-committal.

It doesn't help.

Marmot/Epi, imma vote for Boomslang soon. Will you use your voucher to have me vote elsewhere?

No. Vote where you will, Willllllgy.

a2thezebra wrote:
Scotty wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Y'know what...

I still think mp was bad.
I do too.
To both of you: why.

And how does that help you sort things out right now?
MP gave me a soft baddie read. If he was civ, he would have given me a hard baddie read at the time. He was disingenuous and bad.

Who cares? If you're not going to figure out who his teammates are, then who gives a shit if you're calling him bad. He's dead.

I'm going to be blunt. None of your conversations are useful in finding mafia. None.

Get thee behind me Satans.

At this moment, I am uninterested in a lynch of zebra, Snow Dog or Soneji.

Or Vompatti. I'll throw him in there too.

The reasoning used to vote for any of these people is terrible.

That isn't to say I think they are good- I'm only saying damn people. Do better. Like me.

Snow Dog wrote:What does "I miss Made" mean?

Made, as far as I know, holds the distinction of being the only black player The Syndicate has ever known, and he was the first one I ever saw use that gif before. His birthday was the other day. Dude was funny as hell and fun to play Mafia with.

a2thezebra wrote:
motel room wrote:Speaking of
Soneji wrote:Zebra has had a very narrow focus this game, without giving anything to backup these reads and trolling/harassing people. His aim seems to be to distract, which as LC noted he wasn't doing d1 when the two main suspects were MP and motel room, both town.
How do you know MP was town?

linki - Oh okay neat.

I miss Made.

Some uncharitable commentary:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Listen.

Black Rock has two posts. That's it. If she's good, she isn't doing anything to find Mafia. If she's bad, bingo.

Couple that with the knowledge that lots of people missed Night 1 and only one person died, and again BINGO.

Stop being cute.
Ok I'll bite.

break;
vote(blackRock);

MM and BR have a history of killing each other, if I'm not mistaken. A teammate MM jumping behind me on an absentee BR lynch would get him in early on the BR lynch while also being sort of poetic. That's nothing MM can defend against, I don't think, but I felt it worthy of mention.

Ironically (in this scenario), one of MM's first orders of business was to joke about me throwing Black Rock under the bus.

Scotty wrote:Guys I'm at Disney land right now and am not going to do a full response to anything before EoD, so...

MP, I only skimmed your sig case but don't feel like I can make a qualified switch to sig. if he lasts after today, then I'll put into words as best I can what I think is civ about him. I'm as yet undecided there so I think I may have to vote for one of the inactives. Black rock isn't my first choice- that would maybe be boom, believe it or not. Or zebra. But.

Gotta go

Black rock

Scotty voted Black Rock saying he would rather be lynching Boomslang or zebra. What is funny here is that right after Scotty voted Black Rock (before presumably getting thrown up on by another rider), three individuals jumped on zebra. Had the timing been different, Scotty might have gotten his zebra lynch. Scotty did in fact vote for zebra Day 1, and did so when there was nearly zero chance of zebra being lynched, so Scotty abandoning that vote for Black Rock doesn't make much sense if zebra or Boomslang were truly his primary suspects.

DrWilgy wrote:Saved my teammates by voting BR.

Byyyyeeeeeeeee.

DrWilgy could have tied up the vote, but that would have been risky doings. Besides, saving an absentee teammate might not have been worth the risk. I note that Wilgy missed the Day 1 vote, so no comparison can be made.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Epi, what do you think of the point I brought up against Boomslang?

Boomslang voted Wilgy on his own when BR already had four votes, so he truly didn't oppose a Black Rock lynch. He didn't try to save her but he didn't try to lynch her either. None of that really means anything to me.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Epi, I knew that DFaraday died yesterday night (I have checked the nightkills), but MP dying stood out in my mind more than DFaraday dying did.

If you knew DFaraday died, then your recent posts about him make no sense.

Nachomamma8 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I'm sorry I missed the vote. The last day of work before break was hectic. Will catch up later today. I'm voting to learn more because more information is likely a good thing.
I have my eye on DFaraday in particular; I find it odd that he popped up and had input on the night vote (which isn't indicative of alignment in any way at all) and yet hasn't really given input on anything else.

Nachomamma8 wrote:MP's ISO on DFaraday reinforces my scumread there, though; would be happy with seeing them dead today.

Indeed.

thellama73 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Llama:

The role post says the civvies only need Lechuck, Bob, and the Cannibals dead to win. Does that mean the game will end if the other two baddies are still alive?

Also, the civvies need the cannibals dead, but the cannibals can win even if Herman Toothrot and Head of the Navigator are alive. Does this mean that the game will end if any cannibals are alive and only Herman and Head are remaining for the civvies?
I think that's a remnant from an earlier draft of the game. The civvies need the pirates and cannibals dead to win. If only Herman, the Head, and the Cannibals are left alive, the game will end and the cannibals will win.

Shame on llama for not updating the front page with the correct information.

Question for you, Nacho. How did you know that were not killed Night 2?

Nachomamma8 wrote:MP's ISO on DFaraday reinforces my scumread there, though; would be happy with seeing them dead today.

Then be happy.

Essentially, it's one down, five to go. The Men of Low Moral Fibre and the Pirate Leaders aren't required to be dead, according to the win condition. The cannibals aren't really independent, despite the label- they function exactly as a second mafia.

The ideal lynch for Day 3 would be LeChuck, because there is a chance that would remove one of the two kills from play. Unfortunately, Black Rock gave us little to work with.

I'm posting the votes here for myself.

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:I do think our mafia members either didn't vote or voted on a non wagon avoiding both major lynches. I do however, believe night kills where submitted and I don't think we should just start lynching lurkers on the off chance an entire team forgot/wasn't around to submit a kill.
On what basis do you believe both kills were submitted?

It is rather rare for kills not to be submitted isn't it? It also requires very little effort to submit a kill. If only one player could do it I might be able to see that argument, however it is very unlikely a whole team was so inactive that they didn't send in a kill.

Okay Quin I was wondering if you had any other reasoning

thellama73 wrote:Night ends in an hour and I am still missing lots of actions.
The question of how many constitutes "lots" may have no answer. However:

Fact: An hour before the Night ended, the host says he is still missing lots of actions.

Fact: One person got killed when there should have been two.

Fact: Two of those three protective roles are Night actions, which places them within the realm of unsent actions.

Fact: The phase ended at an earlier time than most phases end on this site.

Fact: I have witnessed eight people on two different teams all fail to submit a Night 1 kill.
Fact: Black Rock had two posts.

Fact: Black Rock was Bob.

Fact: LeChuck is the pirate who kills Nightly.

Fact: The Cannibals kill Nightly (i.e., the kill isn't attributed to one particular cannibal).

If LeChuck is responsible for sending in the kill (llama's answer on the matter was deliberately vague), then I'm inclined to believe that the Cannibals killed Golden and LeChuck is somebody who missed out Night 1 but got back on the ball Night 2.
You could be right, you could be wrong.
If the pirates can submit a kill for the team (which seems likely to me when none of them seem to have public powers), then your theory weakens considerably.

I don't think that pursuing inactives is a bad idea in and of itself (in fact, it's a great idea!), but the lesson that you should be learning from the game where eight people failed to submit a nightkill is that believing in a theory that you don't know to be true with 100% conviction can hurt the town in the end.

This is Mafia. If I cared about 100% conviction, I would play something else.

Soneji wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Soneji wrote:Not fully caught up but Epi and MP would be my top suspects at the moment. MP's vote on motel room can certainly be attributed to self preservation, yet with all the time he spent making posts d1, he didn't make any push against anyone. No courage of conviction. More then that, his response to Epi's rainbow analysis was pretty blown out of proportion, a tl;dr defense against what was a pretty ridiculous analysis by Epi.

That ridiculous analysis plus him going after an inactive at this point in the game is why I suspect Epignosis. The analysis seems more like a premeditated move than having an epiphany and pursuing it with fervor, by the way in which it was written and it being on a day one that was noticeably barebones in terms of reads. Even if his general findings were true and he did happen to notice this pattern specifically, hinging on it D1 is folly. Better to let MP continue what hes doing and get him with more concrete evidence later, then let him weasel out of your weak reasoning and straighten his act.

It is possible they are both scum, one pirate, one cannibal. MP's high volume of posts certainly lend itself towards a larger chance of slipping.

[VOTE: ] aubergine
[VOTE:

Your attributing "rainbow analysis" to me troubles me more than your vote.] aubergine
[VOTE:
I am quite sure you know I was referring to you analyzing MP' s rainbow lists and not you making one. It is called context.] aubergine
[VOTE:

I don't know why you call his analysis ridiculous.] aubergine
[VOTE:
It is based on equating lack of nuance in a rainbow list on a d1 with very little in the way of reads as a scum tell for MP, due to some general pattern of MP's rainbow lists having on average less nuance when hes scum, without accounting for the context in which those other rainbow lists were made compared to the ones he has made this game.] aubergine

Epignosis wrote:[VOTE: Somebody bad voted for Black Rock. Black Rock was a prime candidate to be bussed, but there are two mafia teams. I would bet my left nut someone who voted Black Rock is bad. Maybe even two people. Don't give anybody credit for voting her.

Soneji can get lynched for his move against me. That was lazy.

Quin too because fuck that guy.

If my theory is right, then Black Rock, who was on the pirates team, missed the kill. That means the Cannibals are organized and getting shit done. The Cannibals killed Golden.

Leaving this here for now.] aubergine
[VOTE:
Coming from the dude that went after an inactive. It hit scum but it was a blind shot.] aubergine

[VOTE:

You sound upset.] aubergine

Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:I do think our mafia members either didn't vote or voted on a non wagon avoiding both major lynches. I do however, believe night kills where submitted and I don't think we should just start lynching lurkers on the off chance an entire team forgot/wasn't around to submit a kill.
On what basis do you believe both kills were submitted?

It is rather rare for kills not to be submitted isn't it? It also requires very little effort to submit a kill. If only one player could do it I might be able to see that argument, however it is very unlikely a whole team was so inactive that they didn't send in a kill.

Okay Quin I was wondering if you had any other reasoning

thellama73 wrote:Night ends in an hour and I am still missing lots of actions.
The question of how many constitutes "lots" may have no answer. However:

Fact: An hour before the Night ended, the host says he is still missing lots of actions.

Fact: One person got killed when there should have been two.

Fact: Two of those three protective roles are Night actions, which places them within the realm of unsent actions.

Fact: The phase ended at an earlier time than most phases end on this site.

Fact: I have witnessed eight people on two different teams all fail to submit a Night 1 kill.

Fact: Black Rock had two posts.

Fact: Black Rock was Bob.

Fact: LeChuck is the pirate who kills Nightly.

Fact: The Cannibals kill Nightly (i.e., the kill isn't attributed to one particular cannibal).

If LeChuck is responsible for sending in the kill (llama's answer on the matter was deliberately vague), then I'm inclined to believe that the Cannibals killed Golden and LeChuck is somebody who missed out Night 1 but got back on the ball Night 2.

Nacho: You were impressively vocal Day 1 when motel room got lynched. When Day 2 came and a pirate was lynched, you were absent to the extent that you didn't even vote. Why? Is the charade too much to maintain after Day 1?

Long Con, are you a people eater?

To be more specific, if that was an act, it was a shit move. Bad sportsmanship.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:In the past two games, Eloh was bad, busy, and bearing it. She also killed me in both of those games. She subbed out here.

For that reason, I don't think she's bad, and I don't think motel room 2 is.
What do you think of his assertion that zebra and Mac were performing a distancing spectacle?

I don't buy it.

In the past two games, Eloh was bad, busy, and bearing it. She also killed me in both of those games. She subbed out here.

For that reason, I don't think she's bad, and I don't think motel room 2 is.

zebra, why did you vote Snow Dog?

Epignosis wrote:If the Cannibals killed Golden, as I'm assuming, then LeChuck was a lazy PM missing person.

Following this thinking, Snow Dog isn't Black Rock's partner. He could be a cannibal, but he's not a pirate. Snow Dog is one of the most attentive teammates I have ever had. He lives in BTSC. He also wouldn't miss a PM. He's not LeChuck.

If the Cannibals killed Golden, as I'm assuming, then LeChuck was a lazy PM missing person.

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
What'cha thinkin' about, old chum?
People acting like hooligans outside.
Does it make you feel intimidated? Or will you confront them and bid them to get off your lawn, as it were?
We're getting the fuck out.

Because it's time to go.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
What'cha thinkin' about, old chum?
People acting like hooligans outside.
Does it make you feel intimidated? Or will you confront them and bid them to get off your lawn, as it were?

We're getting the fuck out.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
What'cha thinkin' about, old chum?

People acting like hooligans outside.

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