The Syndicate

No can do. TV time with the family and then a relatively early night for me, as I have students tomorrow.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:03 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:02 am Question for the field:

If "Hotel California" had been written by Walter Becker and Donald Fagan, and had been created by Steely Dan, would your opinion of the song be different?

Why or why not?

It'd be a bizarre departure from their norm, which might make it more interesting. If the Steely Dan version was played as much on the radio as the Eagles version though it wouldn't matter. Burn it all.

A bizarre departure from their norm?

Steely Dan wrote about addiction, excess, and the irony of having things go you way. How is that a departure from their norm?

Question for the field:

If "Hotel California" had been written by Walter Becker and Donald Fagan, and had been created by Steely Dan, would your opinion of the song be different?

Why or why not?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:42 pm How has nobody mentioned CCR yet

CCR is okay because all of their songs are like two minutes.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:46 am I was going to make a joke about how I always assumed Hotel California was about cannibalism but then I checked and it turns out this is a real thing some people think it is about.

It's also about the church of Satan.

(Although, in a roundabout way, they are right, if you consider Anton LaVey's moral philosophy)

If you want some hate, however, here is a list of bands I almost always change the channel if they come on:

The Rolling Stones
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
The Doors
AC/DC
The Grateful Dead
Guns N Roses
Bon Jovi

These just off the top of my head.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:32 pm I like The Eagles and Hotel California is their best album. The song itself opens a semi-conceptual album about greed, sex, addiction, and the constant craving for more. "The Last Resort" that closes the album is the perfect conclusion to it.

I actually agree. I can't tolerate the title track anymore because of classic rock radio (that's not the song's fault), but there are good moments. I like "Try and Love Again" especially.

It's too bad Randy Meisner really didn't like singing in front of people.

Regarding the title track, I think the final line before the guitar solo is perfect given the concept of a hotel and the theme of addiction: "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

That's just good writing.

I like The Eagles and Hotel California is their best album. The song itself opens a semi-conceptual album about greed, sex, addiction, and the constant craving for more. "The Last Resort" that closes the album is the perfect conclusion to it.