The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:46 pm Daisy targeted juliets night 1. There you go.

If Daisy had been present, would she have won? As in, submitting all her PMs?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:54 am Who's missing these nightkills?

This is the point that is keeping me from launching into a full investigation here. If somebody was preventing night kills by roleblocking Deathstroke, they would have dropped enough hints to end this thing by now. That hasn’t happened.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 pm Colin - Would not lynch.
Funnygurl - Would not lynch.
Sloonei - Would not lynch.
Long Con - Would likely not lynch.
MacDougall - Would lynch.
Spacedaisy - Would lynch.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:04 pm You can lynch either Mac or Spacedaisy here, actually. Pick one or the other. Doesn't matter.

Your insistence that you trust Sloonei is made less believable when you don't trust his faith in me. At this point he has more faith in my alignment than yours.

I am happy to put faith in you one last time and lynch Spacedaisy though.

I don't care what you put faith in.

I believe Spacedaisy is Deathstroke or you are.

Reminds of old times, doesn't it?

I don't think you really do think I am Deathstroke or you'd have tried to lynch me by now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 pm Colin - Would not lynch.
Funnygurl - Would not lynch.
Sloonei - Would not lynch.
Long Con - Would likely not lynch.
MacDougall - Would lynch.
Spacedaisy - Would lynch.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:04 pm You can lynch either Mac or Spacedaisy here, actually. Pick one or the other. Doesn't matter.

Your insistence that you trust Sloonei is made less believable when you don't trust his faith in me. At this point he has more faith in my alignment than yours.

I am happy to put faith in you one last time and lynch Spacedaisy though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 pm Colin - Would not lynch.
Funnygurl - Would not lynch.
Sloonei - Would not lynch.
Long Con - Would likely not lynch.
MacDougall - Would lynch.
Spacedaisy - Would lynch.

Can we just lynch you first, and then use that info to guide us confidently?

You have to lynch Deathstroke twice. You don't have that luxury anymore.

How about you just win the game, huh?

Not if Oliver is still alive.

"Due to the Mirakuru and his body armor, he survives the first kill and first lynch attempt on him."

Yes I know. But it’s possible a mafia team shot at him earlier.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 pm Colin - Would not lynch.
Funnygurl - Would not lynch.
Sloonei - Would not lynch.
Long Con - Would likely not lynch.
MacDougall - Would lynch.
Spacedaisy - Would lynch.

Can we just lynch you first, and then use that info to guide us confidently?

You have to lynch Deathstroke twice. You don't have that luxury anymore.

How about you just win the game, huh?

Not if Oliver is still alive.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 pm Colin - Would not lynch.
Funnygurl - Would not lynch.
Sloonei - Would not lynch.
Long Con - Would likely not lynch.
MacDougall - Would lynch.
Spacedaisy - Would lynch.

Can we just lynch you first, and then use that info to guide us confidently?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:59 pm Thank you for calmly assisting me with my quest to be helpful Epignosis.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:54 pm I am tone reading Long Con bad for reasons I said. I have been given a reason to civ read him that I do not understand.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:06 pm I have solved this. Deathstroke is Long Con. I am 100% sure of it.

Then who is iris?

So Sloonei said that he is Iris. I don't understand how he could have a claim?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 12:25 am Well, since you asked...

Here's why we shouldn't vote for Long Con:

Iris Post, Night 1

Spoiler: show

Iris West Blog Post - 5/21/19

"Lots of posts so far, that Day 0 was livelier than most. Obviously, the extended length of it is a factor, I think players were eager to get back to Mafia'ing after a long lull on The Syndicate. Not that lots of posting is a problem, it is good to have more content out there. Good, but more time-consuming to take in.

Congrats to the Cooler voters that stuck with it. Optics are bad on Ultra based on this one, and maybe a couple of others as well. Needless to say, this was a great first lynch, and it should get the ball rolling!"

Player has extended familiarity with Syndicate community (Creature, Dragomir, Luxurious, MafiaMenace, Ultra)
Player approves of accelerated pace with reservations (DrWilgy)
Player used verb "Mafia'ing" (Epignosis)
Player suspects Ultra after Day 1 (DDL, Jack, Sloonei)
Player is at least somewhat active (Spacedaisy)

Iris Post, Night 2

Spoiler: show

"Let's have a moment of silence for Supergirl, brutally murdered before her time. One difficult thing is, it's hard to differentiate the hunting Civilian from the hunting baddie, with two mafia teams. Now I question, how many of Matahari's voters were bad? Gotta be at least a couple by my estimate.

Currently, a lot of Sloonei suspicion. Obviously, you've seen the theories out there. Not too hard to suggest that killing Deathstroke would be a good thing."

Player makes no mention of Sabie (sprityo)

Iris Post, Night 3

Spoiler: show

Iris West Blog Post - 5/27/19

"Lots of good detective work has already been done. Ordinarily I would feel more elated, but the city still has the League of Assassins to deal with. Nutella's lynch is a victory for everyone, but any Civilian cred given for it is reset to zero. Game over, Evil Speedsters... game on, League.

Carry on, good citizens! On to victory! Nail those baddies!"

Player has been exceedingly gracious and not uttered one swear word or cheeky insult at another player in any of their messages, thus is Canadian and not Australian. (Macdougall)

Creature (replaced by Dyslexicon Day 4)
Dragon D Luffy
DrWilgy
Dragomir (Replaced by ColinIsCool Night 2)
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
Luxurious
Macdougall
MafiaMenace (Replaced by Funnygurl555 Night 2)
Sloonei
Spacedaisy
sprityo
Ultra

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:44 pm I'll make this plain Mac: If Sloonei calls you off limits, and I call Sloonei off limits, what the fuck are you doing questioning that?

It's a one-off serial killer. Nobody is defending any team.

I mean come on.

I am out of the circle of knowledge and I don't know why either of you are doing what you are doing. Why would you be a dick about it rather than just calmly explaining yourself?

You have in the last few posts spelled it out very nicely for me.

Now why is Long Con a civ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:35 pm When I ask a fair question and all it takes is a single sentence answer you should just give the answer instead of being an asshole. That's just general politeness shit. That you already said it once before is irrelevant to the context. I mean, even if you had have said "I said this before, look at my old posts" it would have been better than "because I don't believe Sloonei is Deathstroke, and that's the only role I have to eliminate to win" which doesn't help me whatsoever.

Do you read my posts?

I haven't paid a hell of a lot of attention to this game since the scum got killed because I have been in the champs game. Usually I would, but I didn't read the one you quoted.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:35 pm When I ask a fair question and all it takes is a single sentence answer you should just give the answer instead of being an asshole. That's just general politeness shit. That you already said it once before is irrelevant to the context. I mean, even if you had have said "I said this before, look at my old posts" it would have been better than "because I don't believe Sloonei is Deathstroke, and that's the only role I have to eliminate to win" which doesn't help me whatsoever.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:21 pm Furthermore, if Sloonei is Slade, he's painting himself into a corner by calling people like you off limits.

This is a better answer than your initial answer btw. It'd be easier to work with you as a civilian if you made posts like this more often.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:26 pm This is a list. This is a list that is in order.

Funygurl555 (formerly MafiaMenace) - I remain impressed by the level of self-hatred I witnessed in Funnygurl555 reading all the pages and producing apt commentary to boot. This is the spirit of a true masochist. I don't believe that a serial killer, new to the site and replacing in, would bother reading everything in an effort just to pass as a civilian knowing full well that no such credibility can be conferred in this setup (ironic, isn't it?). Nobody would have blamed her for coming in and not reading everything. A protected serial killer who needs everybody out doesn't need to bother with that. Flag planted. Would not lynch.

JackofHearts2005 - He's a crafty one, but I suspect I know how he plays things when he's evil, and this isn't it. I stand by that here. Would not lynch.

ColinisCool (formerly Dragomir) - I held a positive opinion on Dragomir, and I stand by it. Colin doesn't even look like he gives a damn, and I like that. Would not lynch.

Sloonei - Certain posts he has made (and not that he has made a lot of them) give me the impression that he has a stake in finding mafia, and not just eliminating whomever he can. Even when he had votes, he remained focused on the task at hand. I don't think that can be ignored. Furthermore, he has eliminated a number of candidates from suspicion, which would needlessly paint him into a corner if he were indeed the killer. Would not be inclined to lynch.

Long Con - I don't believe he would kill juliets Night 1. I don't kill certain people Night 1, and I so I'm comfortable saying that. There is a remote possibility I'm wrong or something fishy happened with the kill, but I'd put Long Con at about a 17% chance of being the killer. Therefore Would not be inclined to lynch.

Spacedaisy - For Spacedaisy to be the killer, these things would have to be true: 1. She fucked off after making a whopping five posts between Days 0 and 1, but came back to make sure she got that Night 1 kill in. 2. She actually killed juliets Night 1. 3. She fucked off again and didn't come back until after about nine days and would even accept a win considering the lack of participation. The main point against Spacedaisy is that there was a missing kill Night 3, which occurred during that nine day absence. That's all I've got. I have a hard time believing items one, two, and three (i.e., all of them). Spacedaisy is a very sporting person, and this isn't a sporting performance. Would not be interested in lynching.

MacDougall - I have no reason to believe MacDougall can't be the killer. Sloonei is in his corner, however. Would consider lynching.

sprityo - I have no reason to believe sprityo can't be the killer. Sloonei is in his corner, however. Would consider lynching.

DrWilgy - Hello doc. You ain't a doc, is you? Bingo.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:21 pm Who role claimed?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:11 pm How did Sloonei end up with all these role claims etc. in a no claim game? I am super confused.

I don't know, but I don't care.

Why not?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:11 pm How did Sloonei end up with all these role claims etc. in a no claim game? I am super confused.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:05 pm Okay fine, and if you're Deathstroke you will win and it will be a feather in your cap. I'll vote sprityo now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:18 pm Mac is not a viable lynch option.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:35 pm I still feel like Spacedaisy is above sending in kills but not participating beyond that. If she's the killer, I'll know better next time, but I still don't believe it.

But in a game she doesn't have time for, isn't caught up in, she still knows she has a big responsibility as Deathstroke to send in The Kills. I don't see it as her winning strategy, I would see it as her not wanting to mess up the game by missing kills. At least that's what I would say if she had been replaced in this game. Or maybe she feels she's too vital in this game to be replaced, and putting a new player in this precarious Deathstroke spot is too much.

Whatever, I'm talking myself in circles, I highly doubt we're lynching space Daisy at this time anyway. How about that Mac though, huh?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:27 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:09 pm Just put me on Would Not Lynch for Christ's sake! WTF dude?

That's not how this works.

Please don't make the same mistake MacDougall did not too long ago when I named him and the guy who was actually bad as the two to be lynched to secure the civilian victory. He got mad because I named him, got me lynched, and the civilians lost. Fun times.

What the above means is simply this: If I had to vote for someone in the top four, it would be you. But fortunately, I don't have to vote for anybody in the top four. There's the bottom three.

Are you trying to provoke me? Because it's working.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:09 pm Just put me on Would Not Lynch for Christ's sake! WTF dude?