The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:37 pm You’re more confident than I am, sig. I may follow your lead today.

Looking to submit this for best mafia quote!

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:25 pm I'm glad that my towncore was good and that I at least questioned the end of that sig was town.

The snare was that weapons-giving mechanic. I received "a shipment of weapons," and I don't know what in me would have ever doubted sig's affiliation after his claim.

I don't think I've ever seen the, "Give your enemy a katana" mafia role before.

Bishamonten, the war god, says, "Thanks for hosting to leetic."

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:15 pm Great game all around! And thanks from hosting Leetic.

I did give epi a gun thinking he’d shoot Jay if we needed it, we totally did try to set up Jay as a vote also lol and it failed.

Also this is now 2/2 where Falcon and I rolled mafia and won. I think we’re a power duo

I never would have gotten to you. This is probably the best mafia play I've ever seen from you.

Spoiler: show

I was a complete bitch this game.

Time.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:55 pm falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me.
Noted.

Hinted here.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:56 pm What about the gun?

What about it? I'll be dead. Can't use it.

Five minutes remain.
The civilians will not smile.
My mouth shall be still.

Gonna have to scoot soon. Work today, work tomorrow. At least I can eat with senior citizens at restaurants!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:51 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:49 am Very well. Just for my own satisfaction, why did you say everyone has seemed town at one point or another?

(And you can tell me to kiss my own ass if you want- fair is fair)
Valid question. There are levels to it. I think that LoRab has, at least for brief moments, looked earnest when I am viewing her posts as she adds them to the thread. I felt that way, if only vaguely, when she first returned after her silent Day 1. It is not a quality read on my part, and that sweeping claim of mine applies to LoRab less than to the rest. Her overall body of work in this game is well within her mafia-aligned capabilities.

Boy, if you're mafia, I'm writing this down in a Book of Things Mafia Says, read by Mr. Samuel L. Jackson.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:58 pm What has Epignosis actually done in this game that is indicative of his being a civilian? Serious question.

Everyone has seemed town at one point or another. Who cares anymore. Raise the bar.
Oh Jay. Dear Jay.

Explain what Lorab has done that has fit this description.
Nothing. LoRab can absolutely be mafia. She probably is mafia.

Very well. Just for my own satisfaction, why did you say everyone has seemed town at one point or another?

(And you can tell me to kiss my own ass if you want- fair is fair)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:58 pm What has Epignosis actually done in this game that is indicative of his being a civilian? Serious question.

Everyone has seemed town at one point or another. Who cares anymore. Raise the bar.

Oh Jay. Dear Jay.

Explain what Lorab has done that has fit this description.

I like the idea of falcon being the teammate there. The votes against Lorab are empty and more like alarms.

I think Lorab is indeed mafia. The more I think on the Simon (lack of) exchange, the more I think that's a slam dunk.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 am If the team is LoRab and falcon, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as a civilian.

If the team is Long Con and someone else, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as mafia.

Still want my "Glorfindel is a Stump" game to be a thing one day.

I've caught up and I miss Glorfindel.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve

Translation: "I need LoRab here to be present as my partner, not because I suspect her."

You could have easily voted me or sig for the same purpose.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:09 pm @Epignosis What is your read on my slot?

Don't know (that mention didn't work by the way even though it showed up red). I think my view on you depends on LoRab.

What's your take on LoRab? I think LoRab is mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:29 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:13 pm @Long Con do you have an initial take on my view of Epignosis?
Could be him and falc. I'll have to read him over with your words in mind.

Is there ever a world for you where Jay is Maf?

What's your read on his slot right now?
I fully believe Jay is Town, and I hope if I'm wrong that everyone else can be smarter than me and vote for him. There's no room at all in my view of the game for me to pull a 180 on this opinion. I have committed to it fully, because I don't think Jay as a Wolf is gonna be so hand-wringing and doomposting as he has consistently been. It's unbecoming, and I don't think Jay was ever in a desperate enough situation as a Wolf to resort to it.

This guy too.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:22 pm @falcon45ca I can’t get Epi to talk about you, so he’s either teamed with you or trying to make it look that way. If it’s the latter, only you can drive the wedge.

All right. This is a civilian JJJ. Final answer.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:00 pm His responses to today’s suspicion might as well have been “tee hee neener neener”.

Oooh, one of my favorites. Not as fun as Gilbert when I go though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:04 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:55 pm falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me.
Noted.
That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale.

Who would be LoRab's partner from your perspective?

My boy is growing up. Bishamonten damn.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:55 pm falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me.

Noted.

If LoRab is mafia, who is partnered?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:48 pm All right.

LoRab said this:

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:37 pm This post pinged my suspiciometer:

Simon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:34 pm I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.)

The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understand, his play style revolves around comparing people from past experiences, such as being Mafia from a previous game.

From what I understand, JJJ can't seem to get a good read on me. Because at first he was accusing and/or questioning me.

However since my most recent large post, (about JJJ throwing crap at people,) he suddenly started to suspect me less, which I don't understand. But if I wrote it well, then fine, ok sure.

But from recent replies, people were already likely to figure that out sooner or later, so again, I don't know how a single Post can change so much about wether you trust someone or not.
Too much reminding us that he’s inexperienced and mentions this in other posts, as well. It feels a lot like nope, not me, don’t kill the newbie. It just didn’t sit right with me.
Simon actually responded:

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:40 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:49 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:37 pm This post pinged my suspiciometer:

Simon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:34 pm I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.)

The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understand, his play style revolves around comparing people from past experiences, such as being Mafia from a previous game.

From what I understand, JJJ can't seem to get a good read on me. Because at first he was accusing and/or questioning me.

However since my most recent large post, (about JJJ throwing crap at people,) he suddenly started to suspect me less, which I don't understand. But if I wrote it well, then fine, ok sure.

But from recent replies, people were already likely to figure that out sooner or later, so again, I don't know how a single Post can change so much about wether you trust someone or not.
Too much reminding us that he’s inexperienced and mentions this in other posts, as well. It feels a lot like nope, not me, don’t kill the newbie. It just didn’t sit right with me.
You wanted a reply from me, well here I am.

And yeah, the more I think about it after reading this post, the more annoying I sound in this regard. But on the other hand I was also stating that was still inexperienced for not knowing what kind of behavior I would see from different players, in which I would later figure out.

If you also want me to shut up about it, I will. There's no real point in rubbing it in, especially if people already know about this.
not a matter of annoying. You’re not. It’s a matter of you looking bad.
Rather than take the opportunity to dig into Simon's thoughts, ask questions, get to know him, LoRab votes him and leaves it at him looking bad.

To me that looks bad.
Yoooo, not bad, join me on dis here Lorab vote if ya wanna!

Yeah. [VOTE: Lorab] aubergine

LoRab asked me a question for my placeholder vote (which I had said was such), but never asked Simon anything or gave him any reason why he was suspicious. Anybody could say anybody is suspicious and leave it at that.

All right.

LoRab said this:

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:37 pm This post pinged my suspiciometer:

Simon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:34 pm I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.)

The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understand, his play style revolves around comparing people from past experiences, such as being Mafia from a previous game.

From what I understand, JJJ can't seem to get a good read on me. Because at first he was accusing and/or questioning me.

However since my most recent large post, (about JJJ throwing crap at people,) he suddenly started to suspect me less, which I don't understand. But if I wrote it well, then fine, ok sure.

But from recent replies, people were already likely to figure that out sooner or later, so again, I don't know how a single Post can change so much about wether you trust someone or not.
Too much reminding us that he’s inexperienced and mentions this in other posts, as well. It feels a lot like nope, not me, don’t kill the newbie. It just didn’t sit right with me.

Simon actually responded:

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:40 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:49 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:37 pm This post pinged my suspiciometer:

Simon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:34 pm I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.)

The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understand, his play style revolves around comparing people from past experiences, such as being Mafia from a previous game.

From what I understand, JJJ can't seem to get a good read on me. Because at first he was accusing and/or questioning me.

However since my most recent large post, (about JJJ throwing crap at people,) he suddenly started to suspect me less, which I don't understand. But if I wrote it well, then fine, ok sure.

But from recent replies, people were already likely to figure that out sooner or later, so again, I don't know how a single Post can change so much about wether you trust someone or not.
Too much reminding us that he’s inexperienced and mentions this in other posts, as well. It feels a lot like nope, not me, don’t kill the newbie. It just didn’t sit right with me.
You wanted a reply from me, well here I am.

And yeah, the more I think about it after reading this post, the more annoying I sound in this regard. But on the other hand I was also stating that was still inexperienced for not knowing what kind of behavior I would see from different players, in which I would later figure out.

If you also want me to shut up about it, I will. There's no real point in rubbing it in, especially if people already know about this.
not a matter of annoying. You’re not. It’s a matter of you looking bad.

Rather than take the opportunity to dig into Simon's thoughts, ask questions, get to know him, LoRab votes him and leaves it at him looking bad.

To me that looks bad.

This is the tenth time I've scrolled down the front page and asked myself what S~V~S has said in this game.

ISO links are wonderful things.

I think I have an unfair bias on JJJ that I don't apply to everyone, so that's probably my hangup going after him lately.

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

Least do something different.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:15 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:11 pm I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.
So why'd you boot me out first?
Didn't that happen after you said it was me and Jay? Maybe I am guilty. I thought it was over when you said that.
I don't think I agreed to being in the town core.
You were in my core because I believed in YOU.

Bout to print that out and put it on a cat poster.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:16 pm We're forced to have an immediate sense of urgency this evening even if we still have another 23 hours. If @TonyStarkPrime is going to be gone and we assume sig is voting for me, then Tony's vote effectively becomes the person who dies. We have to consolidate.

I thought everybody was lynching me and winning the game.

Anyway, I don't have a this evening. I have sleep soon and then 13 hours more work when I wake up.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:15 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:11 pm I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.
So why'd you boot me out first?
Didn't that happen after you said it was me and Jay? Maybe I am guilty. I thought it was over when you said that.

I don't think I agreed to being in the town core.

I don't get much except I don't think falcon is partnered with LC or Tony.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:11 pm I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

So why'd you boot me out first?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.
The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.
I have had the same thought about him a few times amid my turbulence. @Long Con could stand to describe what it was that sold him on an Epi vote.

Also, Epi, what do you think of falcon?

I'd have to look. Falcon is like LoRab for me. Same dynamic.

There are certain people who do a great job of "being" and there's no way around it until one of the teammates gets got. That hasn't happened yet. I can look back through falcon's posts, but I don't think I'm going to be able to tell you anything discerning. Don't mind trying since you asked.

I was also actually proud of Simon's posting. I tried to put pressure on him that he didn't respond to, but I was super proud of his posts. I hope he sees this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:51 pm That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it.

JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this.

Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because weekends are shit for me.
Sometimes you say things like this, and it is absolutely never correct. It may be honest, because I've seen you say it before when you're honest. Let me be very clear:

I do not keep a schedule with Epignosis' daily activities posted on the wall above my computer screen. Your weekends, or how shit they may be, has never entered my brain in the process a single Mafia game (or even the process of pretending to solve one).

Assessing players' investment in who dies and why is, well, the whole game? What are we doing here otherwise?

Even if you didn't know it, it isn't hard to look back and get a sense of it. Folks do that now for alignment. "Go read these two town games and these two wolfs games" and what the hell ever.

(Don't know how anybody has time for that)

All I meant was that I would assume you would at least have it in the back of your head that I wouldn't be doing much until night time anymore since I don't post during the day.

I apologize if I made a bad assumption. It looks like I did.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:38 am Possibly cause they look to the father for reads, and he subtly stops it some amount of the time

These kids need to get on their shit and start getting jobs.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 am You’re good at mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:18 am If it is Epi/falcon, we'll need to discuss the merits of taking out Epi first.

Hopefully to sushi and saki?

I quoted without opening a new tab and lost my place...

...Bishamonten damnit.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:00 am you guys suck at mafia

Well, if you're a civilian, you can do that thing where you point three fingers back at yourself holding a mirror.

Listen, I don't care which way this game goes. I really don't. JJJ accused me of not caring. He's right.

That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it.

JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this.

Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because weekends are shit for me.

And yes, I will be participating in Syn's walrus thing because I can listen to music while I read and edit shit. I can't read while I read.

I am sorry I have failed my fellow civilians.

I will now do as Bishamonten, the war god, commands, and retain the honor and dignity of my family.

Spekku is my fate.

I will maintain the sacredness of...

Where is my damn katana?

Need to find something else.

A butter knife? A butter knife? That will do no good.

I cannot find anything worthy.

A fate worse than death. Yes! That is my sentence!

Okay...

...wife's distance learning courses...

...I can easily find a VHS of one of JJJ's lectures around here somewhere...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:28 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:26 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:10 am It should be plenty apparent that I am not teamed with Epignosis, and not just based on today.
Now you're speaking truth!
Way to ignore the previous bit about Long Con and I. Inconsistent with your obvious agenda.

Wait, wait, wait.

Hold on.

It's around here somewhere.

No, that's not it.

No, not that either.

Damn it!

I know I-

Oh hello!

Here we are!

Spoiler: show

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:27 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:07 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:06 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:01 am Oh, I read that.

I'm just saying I wouldn't mind playing the long game for credibility and I think you'd do something similar (and LC certainly wouldn't be opposed to that).
Maybe that's true in your case. But I am not making a mechanically suboptimal kill unless it provides some kind of clear and major psychological advantage. Killing Wilgy doesn't make me look any better, as evidenced by the current wagon. I'm not even sure the "gambit" approach would even occur to me as mafia, because I play the game straight. I pursue the advantage in front of me.

Anyway, if people aren't going to take this evidence seriously, then there's no reason for me to keep babbling about it. I'm glad this wasn't a mafia gambit, because good lord it sucked as a gambit. Absolute failure.
All right. I think that's a fair argument.
I also don't think an honest Epignosis is likely to accept anything I said yesterday about the Wilgy kill, true as it may have been. He is allergic to this stuff, so "okay fair" is hard to believe.

You act as though I've given this entire game the benefit of my thought...and you just said...

"Epi has not given a single shit who has been eliminated any day phase."

Search found 176 matches