Nevinera wrote:Epignosis wrote:
When I uttered the name as I did, I did not believe he was Media. At the time, people were trying to come up with a (very distracting) system that included nicknames and other business. Having borne witness to that utter foolishness in Lost Mafia, I pulled the trigger so we could all move on.
I'm not really arguing for your lynch right now, though I don't have any better suspects tbh.
But how could you *possibly* have not believed inh was Media?
The only other role that might remotely behave that way was Fetus, and surely he wouldn't do it on turn 1.
I did not believe he was Media on Day 1, and I even told him if he was Media, he was doing a poor job of handling the role. My mind changed Day 2.
Dr. Fetus was the "only other role?" Ah, hindsight!
On Day 1, you
expressed a host of
possibilities about him, one of which was
Media.
I'm really surprised with you Nev.
Nevinera wrote:
Actually, rereading all of her posts made me suspect *epi* more than anything else;
his odd behavior surrounding inh in the early game doesn't really make any sense for a civ.
Not just the repeated mentions post, but the way he tried to use Zodac to keep us from lynching inh the next night.
it seems like something a baddie would do to keep the attention on the indies for longer.
Compare that to your Night 1 / Day 2 posts:
Nevinera wrote:Somebody wrote:Well, well, don't we have a dilemma here? Vote for me, and then Mr. Zodac siphons the votes. Don't, and I get to
another day. What ever shall you do?
I actually am no longer worried about you. The baddie teams will NK you as soon as we stop voting for you.
Nevinera wrote:blindfaeth wrote:
Though I must confess I don't agree with you, baddies love to keep suspicious characters around.
BTW, if you aren't worried about He who shall not be named, then why did you put effort into not naming he who shall not be named? (That was a doozy to type)
1) If his counts don't roll over, he is going to be powerless the whole game, because we all know who he is now, and won't name him.
2) If they do roll over, and he gained a NK, we'll know very soon. So will the baddies, and they will execute him out of fear.
Nevinera wrote:Holy crap. I was only gone a few hours!
Not voting yet, but I think Epig's argument about Zodac has lot's of tactical merit. Even if he had time to change his target though, he probably would still have left it on redacted, because it was obvious to anyone listening that he was *going* to be lynched next.
I have my doubts about the media powers enumerated though:
1) If he actually just described the bulk of his powers accurately, he would have been modkilled for sure. That's not something you're allowed to do.
2) If he used some kind of 'chaos randomizer' like the role used to have, surely (a) it wouldn't have resulted in a bunch of people systematically receiving the same curse and (b) It wouldn't have resulted in NK's targeting both me and svs, two very active players at the time.
I also think it's very unlikely that MP would have left the secret roles remotely intact - not much point in secrets if everyone knows how they work, right?
So, while I am very concerned about Zodac's power, I have no confidence that he will be able to run this game like that one.
I *do* however know of a good way to find out. If we lynch that guy, and someone else gets lynched, then we *know*.
A little knowing is worth a *lot* of guessing.
I'm going to hold out for later on the vote, because I think more information might be surfacing, but I will probably vote for the obvious person.
Desperation is evident, and I take that as a good sign.
Nevinera wrote:
I think our best play right now is to lynch ---- again, and see what happens.
If he doesn't die, he's Fetus.
If someone *else* dies, then we know Zodac has the same power as before (which is tactically *very* important to know).
I rather doubt MP would have left him the same, honestly.
The power was a little too game-controlling in MotU.
So according to you:
On Day 2, what I was saying about Zodac had a lot of "tactical merit."
On Day 6, what I was doing was trying to save Media and I should be lynched for that.