The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:NICE BANNERS

boo wrote:Night 6 End: Double Tap

Bass and SVS were both killed by Smegma. Turns out, they shouldn’t have spent the night together.

Question:
I got 99 problems but (blank) ain't one.

Bass and SVS have both been killed by Smegma. Thank you both for playing!
It is now Day 7, you have 24 hours to lynch someone.
FH is the Card Czar today, she cannot be lynched.

You are also ressing a player today.

How it works:
Every player gets to PM me the names of three players they want ressed. The deadie who gets picked the most is ressed.

However, they will not be ressed in their previous role. If the first vote for the player ressed comes from an indie, the player will be ressed as an indie. If the player ressed gets the most votes from a civ, they are a civ. If the player ressed gets the most votes from baddies, they will come back as a solo baddie (can win with any baddie, but doesn’t have BTSC). Awesome points may be used as votes (but this will use them entirely. They will not be available as lynch votes, and civvies cannot use them to lock into a role if they use them as a vote).

You may discuss it in thread, but you do not have to be honest about which names you submit (or consider). These votes cannot be changed, and you need to send in all three names at the same time.

Turnip Head wrote:I had the most awesome role of all time. Like, once-in-a-lifetime awesome. And I was never able to use it like I wanted to because it was attached to Dom.

I don't think I've been this upset about not winning a mafia game. I feel like I did everything I possibly could have to earn it; I tried my hardest, and just came up short. I still don't know why k4j, Epi and Ace turned on me yesterday. They had no reason that I can see to throw me under the bus right before the end of the game. I never suspected them to turn on me - I didn't think they had any reason to - or I would have used my lynch protection. I guess it just wasn't in the cards.

I had a lot of things I wanted to say to SVS about my role, but she was bad, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Anyways boo this was a really creative game. Well-planned, well-hosted. I like that you tried to add fun things to do on the side, like the White Cards. I like that everyone utilized Awesome Points differently. I love that it was balanced while still so open-ended.

I really had a ton of fun. But that fun got soured by the fact that I couldn't quite get to the end.

thellama73 wrote:This was a frustrating game because everyone thought I was bad right away, and even though I was bad, they thought so for the wrong reasons.

Epignosis wrote: If FH had been lynched and turned out good, I would have been crushed: Another notch in my belt of shame.

AceofSpaces wrote:I'm done thinking. She's bad. Lets lynch her.

Elohcin wrote:I voted for DH (for voting me), for Epi ('cause he is near and dear to my heart and I truly believe he is civ), and for myself. I voted 5 (Epi's favorite number), 6 (the day of mine and Epi's anniversary), and 9 (my kids were born on the 9th, the 19th, and the 29th).

kneel4justice wrote:

S~V~S wrote:You can't make cracks, you didn't vote~

When you find the rule that says if someone doesn't vote their opinion is invalid, let me know.

The Official Rules wrote:§ 25B-1. The display of or reference to Nicki Minaj's eye rolling is hereby prohibited.

S~V~S wrote:It isn't a "rule"; it is a convention. People who don't vote don't get to bitch.

The Official Rules wrote:§ 39A-2. The bitching of non-voters shall not be prohibited, nor restricted by avatar, username, status, or signature.

Turnip Head wrote:I have no reason to believe that Epi is a baddie. It does concern me that he voted for me today.

Turnip Head wrote:She has mainly followed Epi's vote around. She seemed to trust FH in her gut, despite voting for her. That's all I have. If she's a baddie, she's played a flawless and quiet game.

Elohcin wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Is there anyone other than me that you are suspicious of? Unless Sorsha was the sassy black woman - it's possible that she was, I had no read on her - there are at least two separate baddies alive, on separate teams. I can't be both of them. I am neither of them.

Ace survived a lynch. FH was highly suspicious of him because of it, though she did not seem be suspicious of me. What do you make of that, SVS? And what do you make of Ace? Also, what do you think about Elohcin this game?

I think this is just a poor job of trying to remove the suspicion off of yourself. *votes TH*

S~V~S wrote:I am not talking about the things she did, i am talking about the things she said. She laid out a clear line of reasoning about why she could not be bad, and you all just ignored it.

Maybe you just don't see what I see in TH, you just don't? You sure saw it in Dom though, didn't you? TH sings a siren song with the best of them.

Linki @ Epi~

Flyin' High wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Then just vote me. If you are so certain you are right. Clearly your opinion hasn't been changed one iota by anything I've posted in defense of myself.

I'm sorry that I can't convince you that you're wrong. I don't know what else to say.

What bothers me beyond the obvious stuff is that instead of coming up with a case for anyone at all, you bring up Sorsha and Eloh (and me). You don't say anything about any of us beyond how two are being quiet and one is "on your radar."

And you vote for Aces for surviving a lynch that (presumably) a bad team made possible? Hell, I've survived two Night kills myself!

Yes, but there are civvie reasons to survive a night kill. There are no civvie ways to survive a lynch. That's the difference.

Some more FH logic

S~V~S wrote:Well, i thought they were very well thought out, logical arguments that made excellent points about why it was totally unlikely that she was a baddie.

She didn't just make them in the last hour, she has been making them for a while.

But that ol' Turnip Man just hypnotized everybody, didn't he? I had forgotten what a good talker he is, i missed that guy, a good player and a formidable opponent.

AceofSpaces wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:So, I'm totally OK with lynching Turnip Head now.

That's not the person I had in mind.

OK, who do you have in mind? I'm curious.

AceofSpaces wrote:So, I'm totally OK with lynching Turnip Head now.

S~V~S wrote:Ah.

S~V~S wrote:Did you guys not read her arguments on why she was not likely to be a baddie?

S~V~S wrote:Oh crap, I did not realize it was this close to the end. I do not think FH is bad, she rings true to me. And i am tired of beating my head into the wall of wool TH is pulling about, so i randomized!

What do you think of THAT!?!?!

kneel4justice wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:I think SVS is bad too.

reasons?

Because I think that baddies probably new civvies would want to rezz SVS and decided to pile up their votes on her so she would come back baddie. Her insistence on believing TH is bad could be genuine but makes me feel as though she is trying to appear to be of the same alignment she left the game with. She also made a comment that she thinks TH killed her and that surprised me because I thought she hid behind Bass and got killed that way, although this is just an assumption.

See, I don't agree there at all. I read boo's post. It said SOLO Baddie. That means a bad guy with no affiliation to any bad team that brought her back. If anything, S~V~S is independent, but I do not believe she has come back as a solo bad guy (possibly with a kill, which has not manifested itself). That would be foolish on the part of the team that voted her. She's either civilian or independent.

But SVS would be able to win with either team, correct? So why not add to their numbers by rezzing another baddie? That is one less civvie they have to worry about out numbering, at least IMO. I did not think that if someone was rezzed as a baddie they would get a kill, I just thought that meant their alignment would be bad.

kneel4justice wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:I think SVS is bad too.

reasons?

Because I think that baddies probably new civvies would want to rezz SVS and decided to pile up their votes on her so she would come back baddie. Her insistence on believing TH is bad could be genuine but makes me feel as though she is trying to appear to be of the same alignment she left the game with. She also made a comment that she thinks TH killed her and that surprised me because I thought she hid behind Bass and got killed that way, although this is just an assumption.

Elohcin wrote:now.

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Yeah Epi but if the Trumps had just let FH be lynched instead of saving her to frame her, she would be dead, and the Trumps would still have their buttsore ability to later frame someone or save someone. There was no reason for DH to use the buttsore ability during a civvie's lynch, especially since no one else was really up for the lynch that day.

That no one was really up for the lynch that day makes for a perfect frame up opportunity- run two lynches with one move. If you use the power to save yourself, then you've drawn attention to yourself and you are doomed (see Rey).

So do you think those who voted for FH are bad?

Flyin' High wrote:Then just vote me. If you are so certain you are right. Clearly your opinion hasn't been changed one iota by anything I've posted in defense of myself.

I'm sorry that I can't convince you that you're wrong. I don't know what else to say.

Turnip Head wrote:You're right. If there was to ever be a frame opportunity, that would be it. I guess I just don't think that's what went down. FH would have reacted differently if she were truly being framed. That's my gut read of the situation.

Turnip Head wrote:Yeah Epi but if the Trumps had just let FH be lynched instead of saving her to frame her, she would be dead, and the Trumps would still have their buttsore ability to later frame someone or save someone. There was no reason for DH to use the buttsore ability during a civvie's lynch, especially since no one else was really up for the lynch that day.

kneel4justice wrote:Switching you with Ace does not make any sense to me. The goal of framing someone is to get them lynched, if the mafia's goal was to lynch you why not just let you be lynched? Why worry about going to the trouble of wasting their power on getting Ace lynched? That makes no sense to me. I hear what you're saying but I do not see how logically it makes sense. They did not need anyone to come out saying "FH is SOOO bad!" because obviously people felt it already, enough to lynch you.

Flyin' High wrote:Do you think Epi is misguided civvie or clever mafia? (See any of the posts I've previously made on him if you need a refresher)

Flyin' High wrote:What do you think about Sorsha? Or Elohcin? Two players that keep showing up to vote at the end of lynches but have barely contributed to any discussion whatsoever.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Wow. I was totally wrong there. Good job to everyone who read that right. BIH DH!