The Syndicate

I vaguely recall making the suggestion to kill juliets myself, but I cannot recall why.

Ah, I see. That makes sense.

Unfortunately for you, I figured you both out!

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I knew Timmer was bad when he kept trying to go after Boats, lol~
I hate to sound no-uey here, but him suspecting me made me feel he was bad. :P Idk why, but his suspicion seemed incredibly contrived. Then his one post about me after I died where he said I screamed baddie all game, yeah I had a great feeling he was just milking the fact he was right.

In any case, I feel the fact me and rey got defeated could have been prevented if I thought to forgo the kill some nights when the books came along just in case. It crossed my mind, but why I didn't bring it up or do it I'll never know.

Or

Epignosis wrote:You should've killed me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Everyone should now go sign up for Epignosis's Masters of the Universe Mafia! It is going to be insanely epic, I know that much. And yours truly will be playing in it instead of hosting, which helps, yes, I know.

Boomslang wrote:Well played, all. Almost made it to the end, but to no avail. get friggin 2x votes, how is that fair? Oh well, that's me being a sore loser :P
I know, you did great!

It was weird because both timmer and Epignosis's roles were dangerous ones to have around for a while and they both lasted until the end. I didn't think that amount of vote manipulation would likely be thrown around in endgame when I created them, but they both played well. It was funny to see Epignosis push his agenda from what was in the night posts, lol, and then the Cyan Book died with Kate so timmer and Epignosis's roles didn't end up getting revealed.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I did enjoy framing Epignosis though. Shame the votes got all kerfuffled.
This was amusing; I thought Epignosis was going to die, several times. The votes saved him and he came so close to dying by Illyria/Moondog but she flipped two tails.

You and rey did awesome, I thought for a while there it was going to be a showdown between Residents and Duo after Ziltoid's team kind of died off (they did well for the first 4 days), but then BWT killed himself and I was like, uh oh, lol.

I honestly think the highlight for me was the feud between DH and me on who was Herman. I used the information I had in order to narrow it down, but sending bwt to execute rey really sealed the deal for us. He served his purpose well.

You should've killed me.

Mind-blowing game with a lot of puzzles. Great work, host!

Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I agree. If this was a lynch redirection, and I think it was a clear case of one, then surely an evil player is not invincible to lynching (at this point, that would make the player invincible, yeah?).

I say we kick timmer to the curb this time.
Interesting that you don't want to find his teammates.

I believe I've already done so.

Not totally certain, but I'm close.

I voted accordingly, by the way.

I agree. If this was a lynch redirection, and I think it was a clear case of one, then surely an evil player is not invincible to lynching (at this point, that would make the player invincible, yeah?).

I say we kick timmer to the curb this time.

Reminds me of the Masters of the Universe Christmas Special:

W...T...F...

Yeah, those rationalizations seem desperate to me. I'll vote for timmer too.

timmer wrote:
Epignosis wrote:timmer, I feel like you're grasping at straws there, and by straws, I mean, "shot in the dark circumstantial evidence of the sort that almost got me killed for Herman."

Can you defend yourself any better? Especially after night 5?

Again, not an accusation. It's just that presupposing CBK had a great reason to vote for rabbit8 on day 2 is a little baffling, and if you are on the block, it's a lousy defense.

But what else can I say? I mean, this goes back to my first post in the entire game, what else can I say about CBK's vote? I know I'm not bad, and so she must have had good reason to vote him.

You cannot know that. That's reaching.

Judge Judy would spank you for thinking you know another person's mind.

timmer, I feel like you're grasping at straws there, and by straws, I mean, "shot in the dark circumstantial evidence of the sort that almost got me killed for Herman."

Can you defend yourself any better? Especially after night 5?

Again, not an accusation. It's just that presupposing CBK had a great reason to vote for rabbit8 on day 2 is a little baffling, and if you are on the block, it's a lousy defense.

Calm down- I wasn't accusing you. I appreciate hearing from you. This may change my mind. I think we have to be especially careful now in the endgame, especially when one team is unilateral in its killing.

If I ask you further questions though, please don't be defensive- I'm really not out to get you.

Illyria wrote:Agreed, I feel fairly nebulous about both of them which makes me think they are flying under the radar.

Do you have any reason to vote one over the other?

Blah

*Boomslang's about in the same boat as insertname here for me.

My gut says that Boats is civilian and Boomslang is a Resident.

That's my gut based on what they say. I can back up Boats being civilian, but Boomslang...Boomslang's about in the same about as insertnamehere for me.

Illyria wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Illyria wrote:I give up.

Epi I am sorry, I really bought it from DP whom I should have known was evil since he was actually talking.

I am just going to sit here in my wrongness and be wrong.

OH. Also.

*smacks DP for killing me the first time*

Musicals are AWESOME.
Please don't despair!

I'm just glad (wayward as hell) fortune favored me to remain among the living.

We need only figure out The Residents. bea is the only confirmed Resident. I spent so much determining who was Herman and The Mysterious Voice, that I'm empty on who is a Resident. If I had to guess right now, I'd guess insertnamehere. Last time speaking to us was two days ago. But this is just a guess- not an accusation.

I'd like to her insertnamehere's thoughts on all this.
I have not been this wrong consistently since I first started playing. What the everfucking hell?

Okay we know Bea and Vomps were Residents, so that is two out of the is it 5? I can't read anything of the Residents because of that color.

Vompatti was not a Resident. He was the Residents fanboy- he was one of those civillians we screwed up and lynched early on.

Illyria wrote: Epig if you want my opinion, which I would understand if you don't, INH always pings me and it is usually 50/50. I will say that I have never seen him talk as much as he did in the beginning of the game. It is usually what we are getting now.

Insertnamehere is my primary suspect. We've lost too many civilians in lynch votes- we've robbed ourselves of power, so to speak. So I want to be careful. Any more missteps on our part and we may be outnumbered, yeah?

timmer wrote:Really? At this time, DH pings me more than anyone.

As much as I had wanted to see DH gone, I think he's civilian. I really do.

That said, you go with your conscience; I've been wrong enough times, especially early on.

I'd really like to hear from insertnamehere. If I don't, and if I am not satisfied, then that's whom I voting for.

Actually, I'm quite satisfied that DH is a civilian (no hard feelings, really, even though you did piss me off a time or two!).

I had requested information from insertnamehere, and insertnamehere has posted, but insertnamehere hasn't responded to my request. Was that a dodge?

I think at this point the Residents are afraid to talk.

I don't know what feb means, but the face looks the closest to the emotion I am attempting to convey.

Illyria wrote:I give up.

Epi I am sorry, I really bought it from DP whom I should have known was evil since he was actually talking.

I am just going to sit here in my wrongness and be wrong.

OH. Also.

*smacks DP for killing me the first time*

Musicals are AWESOME.

Please don't despair!

I'm just glad (wayward as hell) fortune favored me to remain among the living.

We need only figure out The Residents. bea is the only confirmed Resident. I spent so much determining who was Herman and The Mysterious Voice, that I'm empty on who is a Resident. If I had to guess right now, I'd guess insertnamehere. Last time speaking to us was two days ago. But this is just a guess- not an accusation.

I'd like to her insertnamehere's thoughts on all this.

Awww yeah. One of my favorite rap albums.

Our High School band did SpottieOttieDoaliscious for half time shows.

DharmaHelper wrote:I'm sorry Epig.

Thanks DH. I appreciate that.

DisgruntledPorcupine is likely Herman, so I vote for him.

Dom wrote:I think she means the poll.

I think she means that I am Herman- she said so herself. Will you let her answer, please? I am very much interested into why she buys into irrational nonsense.

Illyria wrote:One I am so happy I didnt miss the vote, and two I am so happy I can see what is going on now. Epi. I am with DH, I believe you are Herman and that is why you got my vote today.

Will you please tell me what you see is going on?

Very well. Scoffing at any suggestion otherwise, you remain convinced that I am Herman.

Is anyone else? Because I haven't heard anyone speak up saying so.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Show me the data that says you can't be Herman and I'll show you false data.
There are other possible Herman candidates, yet you set upon me, and have been set upon me, again on nothing more than circumstantial evidence.

And yet, even if I were lynched and shown not to be Herman, you admit you would still believe I was Herman. Incredible!

If you were lynched and shown not to be Herman, it'd be a trick.

Alas, then nothing I can say- nay, nothing that would ever happen!- can persuade you. Fortunately for me, it appears you have already spent what little power you had in destroying me.

DharmaHelper wrote:Show me the data that says you can't be Herman and I'll show you false data.

There are other possible Herman candidates, yet you set upon me, and have been set upon me, again on nothing more than circumstantial evidence.

And yet, even if I were lynched and shown not to be Herman, you admit you would still believe I was Herman. Incredible!

DharmaHelper wrote:As a side note, The Truth and rabbit were on the same team, Ziltoids. They were also grouped together in a voting group produced by my research.

How's that for "useless mumbo jumbo"

Statistically speaking, if you randomized voting, you could show similar results.

I find it amusingly ironic that you put so much stock in your circumstantial data, yet you are categorically convinced that I am someone I am not, despite my demonstrations of who can and cannot be Herman based on the criteria of the game set forth from the beginning.

It almost makes me consider you desperate.

The hubris of stubbornness strikes!

If I were lynched, and I were not what you expected, would you believe yourself still?

DharmaHelper wrote:
reywaS wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Still unconvinced Dharma? What a pity.
what would have unconvinced him?

When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, then I will be unconvinced.

Many "suns" rise in the west and set in the east.

Still unconvinced Dharma? What a pity.

Ooo! So patience is a virtue then!

Who are you now, and why are you voting?

Boomslang wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Well hold on, there's gotta be a system here, even if it's completely convoluted and avant-garde. It's probably not alphabetical, although that would be an excellent troll. Maybe each number is assigned to each player based on voting order or something?
I agree that there must be a system, but the idea about voting order...no one voted on Day 9.
I was thinking the order we voted today, like a self-referential thing. But that's just spitballing.

Nah, that wouldn't work either. Say some people didn't vote- then they don't get placed in the poll, which means they are (technically) exempt from the lynch.

But who the hell knows in this exercise?

Boomslang wrote:Well hold on, there's gotta be a system here, even if it's completely convoluted and avant-garde. It's probably not alphabetical, although that would be an excellent troll. Maybe each number is assigned to each player based on voting order or something?

I agree that there must be a system, but the idea about voting order...no one voted on Day 9.

Holy hell.

Does anyone mind if I roll a die for THIS poll?

reywaS wrote:The first portal helped the civvie cause.

How exactly? I can't see it. All it did was rob us of a lynch opportunity and doom S~V~S.

Damn, I hadn't even considered S~V~S's doom could've been two "real" days! I was thinking two Mafia days.

What makes this more puzzling is that someone shared her exact same fate, but it was not foretold.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

The volcano began to rumble once more and this time the sky turned even more ominous. "I don't have a good feeling about this..." remarked S~V~S. Herman the Hologram appeared out of nowhere, facing all the players. "HELLO! THE NAME'S HERMAN! AND I LOVE VOLCANOES!" He picked up S~V~S and rabbit8, one in each hand, and then forcefully threw them both into the volcano. Both unlucky souls met instant death.

What makes even less sense is how a friggin' hologram can pick up things.

Seriously, here are my observations, for what they are worth:

1. Two players were "lynched," but not by popular vote (as is normally the case). This suggests either major manipulations of the votes, or lynch switching (not even sure if that's a thing). That two players were killed instead of only one, though, is bewildering. My guess, however, is that it has something to do with Portal 1. Any thoughts?

2. rabbit8 has not been lynched before; that means Ziltoid the Omniscient did not find the cup of coffee.

3. Ziltoid the Omniscient can attempt a recruit each night if he is not roleblocked, but Captain Squizloid would absorb any night action against ZtO, meaning, if CS is not dead, ZtO would never have been roleblocked ever, which means, at a 50% rate, there could be as many as four civilian recruits (whether living or dead, I cannot say).

4. S~V~S was set to die in two days, but that (obviously) did not preclude her from being killed off prematurely by some other act.

5. No one has been insanified for quite some time; that means Christian Vander is probably dead.

I am having a cup of coffee. It isn't perfect, but it's mine.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:No, I haven't been. I'm on the shortlist (there's only one list that matters, so saying both is meaningless), yes. But Epignosis is defending himself because people are going after him. I haven't received heat, so I'm not gonna sit here and yell at nothing. And I find it funny how you gingerly avoided suspecting Aces there. :O
I am not defending myself because people are going after me.

I've accused you of something, and you snake away, hiding behind people going after me. "I haven't received heat."

Come on- got anything better? Less than a hour to vote.

I am not defending myself because people are going after me.
There is literally no conceivable reason otherwise I could think of for someone to defend oneself.
I've accused you of something, and you snake away, hiding behind people going after me. "I haven't received heat."
Hiding. Oh yes. Maybe I don't have anything valuable to say. I am confident you are Herman. That's all I can say.
Come on- got anything better? Less than a hour to vote
Nope. Because I can see what people are expecting me to say is "No. Your list is wrong. The voting records are false and I received invisible votes that prevented me from possibly being Herman. You're all horribly misled." as I said earlier. There is no other conceivable kind of defense. It's like being suspected solely for quietness. Am I to say "No I have not been quiet you crazy person you"? I defend when directly confronted.

I'm voting for you.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:No, I haven't been. I'm on the shortlist (there's only one list that matters, so saying both is meaningless), yes. But Epignosis is defending himself because people are going after him. I haven't received heat, so I'm not gonna sit here and yell at nothing. And I find it funny how you gingerly avoided suspecting Aces there. :O

I am not defending myself because people are going after me.

I've accused you of something, and you snake away, hiding behind people going after me. "I haven't received heat."

Come on- got anything better? Less than a hour to vote.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
timmer wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
I assume you're expecting me to say "No. Your list is wrong. The voting records are false and I received invisible votes that prevented me from possibly being Herman. You're all horribly misled."
Let's just say I feel Epig has been a little more forceful in trying to defend himself than you, who are just sitting back nonchalantly.
Right. So you're asking me to defend myself when I'm not even being accused. Marvelous.

I accused you when I posted my list.

S~V~S wrote:If I am going to die today based on the 2 days thing, I would just like to make a toast to my man Damo He has some awesome shrooms

I believe you were forced to vote for me. So if I die, no hard feelings!

Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:Boats, Epig, and Rabbit are my Top 3 to vote for. Boats comment to not vote Epig has me suspicious. I think I'll vote Epig anyway though. I believe he's not Herman but I think he's bad as well. He keeps saying "I am NOT Herman" with great emphasis but he isn't claiming he's good. He's just saying we're wrong about him being Herman.

*votes Epig*

You should be a lawyer.

I think he was using sarcastic orange.

BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote: OK, this post kinda does it for me. It sounds kind of like Epi really, really loves this role. A few things.
I'm not Herman.
Oh thanks, I was pretty doubtful before, but this convinced me.

Very well. I give up reasoning with you bandwagon people. If you've the balls, go on and vote for me. I'm done, yeah? Then you'll see I was telling the truth.

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