The Syndicate

I had a grand time playing the virgin.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Weren't those the same guys that had baddie teams named after them in the GoC?

Apparently we both have emoticons too:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:I hope lots of you enjoyed the game. It was certainly more than a little unorthodox, but we really wanted to give it a go, and from my perspective it was really fun to watch you all try your best to get to grips with it.

Congrats also to the winning team on all meeting your personal win cons... it was touch and go there for a bit.

I didn't understand it. What was the point of having civilians? They had no chance of winning.

I'm sorry if you don't like the game setup or didn't find it fun. We did our best to make the experience fun and fair for all, and I hope at least that most people did enjoy it. We certainly went for whimsy as a focus in preference to serious mafia. The game was always going to play out in confusion given the existence of three night kills and all the personal win cons that drove many of the lynch behaviours.

I did have fun, but no, I don't like the game setup. This was essentially last man standing with three players at an impossible disadvantage.

Golden wrote:I hope lots of you enjoyed the game. It was certainly more than a little unorthodox, but we really wanted to give it a go, and from my perspective it was really fun to watch you all try your best to get to grips with it.

Congrats also to the winning team on all meeting your personal win cons... it was touch and go there for a bit.

I didn't understand it. What was the point of having civilians? They had no chance of winning.

Spacedaisy wrote:I knew you were bad Epi. You know why? You didn't once suspect me. Come on man, you can call me as bad better than anyone else, so I knew you were off.

Almost everybody was bad, apparently.

I don't see how this was a balanced game at all. Or Mafia.

This all boiled down to luck: Who got night killed.

And it all came down to a coin flip.

Might as well have played craps.

My opinion hasn't changed. Neither has my relationship status.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry folks! I got a little busy with other things. The night post will be coming shortly.

No. Unacceptable.

At least I didn't fall asleep at my keyboard.

thellama73 wrote:Epi, thoughts on the above?

sig wrote:Daisy and Epi both sound good to me. Why do you think Wilgy is a civ?

sig wrote: Today I'd like to lynch either Epi or SD as I believe one or more likely both of them are mafia members.

Confirmed Mafia. I'm not voting for spacedaisy on account of this and that I think there's more to work with. It's Nerolunar for me.

Wilgy has some spacedaisy interactions, but I'd have to look at those.

sig wrote:A few pings from Nero, but not enough to lynch on keep I'll keep my eye on him.

sig wrote:I don't think Llama's reasoning is right in regards to Nero. While I've never hosted I don't think the hosts would be in a bigger rush to replace a mafia member then a civ.

I've got a slight ping from nero, and I am feeling good about Epi's posts directed at him, but he won't be getting my vote today for a few reasons. I don't like what Llama said about him, as off right know Nero seems like an easy lynch button.

I don't like Daisy's response to G-man's ISO. It came off as very defensive and pingy.

sig wrote:Wilgy always claims doctor regardless of the game and alignment. The other would be Nero he has made a few posts and I think your voting for him already? I've got a slight ping but not vote worthy.

Let's summarize, shall we?

A few pings, but not enough to lynch, llama's not right, slight ping from nero, feeling good about what Epi said, but Nero won't be getting a vote for a few reasons even though I'm about to name just one, which is Nero "seems" easy, Nero has made a few posts but he's getting attention for that already, again a slight ping but he shouldn't get a vote.

Boom.

















Wish my bed sounded like that.

DrWilgy wrote:;__;

thellama73 wrote:Oh man, I was right about WIlgy too! I am on fire this game.

You could be on fire if you don't prefer the rope.

Fires make me think of hot dates that I don't have because any girl I ask out is "all tied up" at the moment.

sig wrote:Okay so some quick thoughts before the night ends. Right know I'm reading Llama as a civ he shouldn't be lynched. After reading everything over Bull's does look better though I still dislike his votes. He isn't a good lynch candidate. I've got a slight ping on Sorsha for her vote, but besides that she is null. A few pings from Nero, but not enough to lynch on keep I'll keep my eye on him.
Wilgy is a slight civ lean, again I wouldn't lynch him today.
I've got a slight mafia ping on Quin. Today I'd like to lynch either Epi or SD as I believe one or more likely both of them are mafia members.

Wow sig. Thank you for this enlightening lega-

Oh. You were bad.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis fucked

If only.

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
I wish a girl get drunk with me.

Do you get drunk with dead girls?

_______

I made a typo.

thellama73 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Quiet night...

Llama, what are your thoughts on Nero oustide of your theory.

Sorsha, Daisy what do you think of Llama's comment about you two from earlier?

I don't trust Nero. I was pretty happy when the lynch was tied between Epi and Nero yesterday. I thought we had a good chance of finding a baddie, which is why I was so dismayed to come back and see the votes all moved to C-Man.

I would have much rather kept my vote on Nero, who is being cautious with his words and lazy with his vote, but noooooooo, someone decided to go get drunk and wouldn't let me so that.

I wish a girl get drunk with me.

sig wrote:One of our most active players who was almost certainly a civ was lynched, because Epi voted for them. Epi would then be able to defend himself using the self preservation argument. However, he could have easily voted for SD and tied it that way but, he didn't. He also waited until the very last second to vote, which is suspicious seeing who he voted for.

I think SD and Epi are both mafia members, this explains why Epi didn't vote for her, but for G-Man instead.

That's right. I was on Bullzeye's team Day 1. For Day 2, I was on spacedaisy's team. Maybe Day 3 I'll be on your team.

thellama73 wrote:Epi is still my top suspect. I think he is counting on us loosing focus and second guess ourselves if he just continues to play it cool and use the sigh smiley in every post. I don't intend to let that happen.

I do love it when you look foolish. So come get some llama.

I wish I could get some.

thellama73 wrote:I'm extremely disappointed in Sorsha and Daisy for casting such foolish votes. Nero had at least a possibility of being bad. One of you at least had better be mafia, or else there is no excuse for what you have done.

My rainbow list continues to be 100% accurate.

Meanwhile I take crap for breaking ties.

Or causing them.

sig wrote:So right know I'd be good with an Epi lynch tomorrow.

Okay.

Well now I'm trying to save myself.

And not just for marriage this time.

Well, since I'll be stardust soon, I'll leave you with this.

Nerolunar is my biggest suspect, someone who called for participation, got called out for not participating, and then voted the person who called him out.

DrWilgy says I didn't answer his questions, but I did. He thinks I should have clear opinions on people even if I don't, and that even if I do, I should have to lay my cards on the table that early. Sorry. Never going to happen with me.

Hopefully I don't get lynched, but if I do, at least you have that.

At least I finally have some clear opinions on people, right Wilgy?

I'm so alone.

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Wilgy's vote for G-Man:

DrWilgy wrote:

G-Man wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

G-Man wrote:I am changing my vote because I've got bigger fish to fry. Spacedaisy has been AWOL and has contributed nothing of substance thus far. It may very well just be that I've forgotten how Spacedaisy plays. Something just seems wrong about her soft posts and general absence though.

Looking over this, I actually really don't like this post G-Man. 1st of all, you can go back and compare to Daisy's other games. 2nd, you just finished Arrested Development with her.

Reading this post and the portion that I've bolded either means you aren't willing to double check a Meta that you are willing to base a vote on, or you are prepping yourself for an easy "oops, I guess I just forgot" when/if she's lynched as a civvie. Both of which screams bad sauce.

Linki - *Wilgy gives Sorsha a big hug! Now they both smell like tomatoes*

My favorite professor's advice: past performances are not indicative of future results.

Then why even mention the part that I bolded if you aren't trying to use that "forgotten" memory as a reference?
G-Man

My vote for G-Man:

Epignosis wrote:My initial inclination is to vote G-Man. That rundown of what, three-and-half pages...what was the point of that? It reminds me of that time in Star Wars (OMG I love Star Wars. Maybe you could come check out my light saber some time!!!) where a2thezebra posted commentary of everybody early on. It was premature and gave the appearance of looking good.

I worry about being premature.

I fail to see why my vote is more important in the scheme of things than his. I said I was going to break ties. Did he think I was joking?

I wish my sex life wasn't a joke.

Epi it really isn't that, It's that you didn't have opinions on anyone else and when I tried to pull opinions out of you again and again I got nothing from you. Had you answered question 3 by saying G-Man, I would've at least been able to believe you. That would've, at the bare minimum, seemed genuine.

I didn't suspect G-Man after the lynch. Either you're asking me to be repetitive or lie.

If I need to manufacture suspicions, I can do that just fine.

I'm sure you know what I can't do just fine though.

I switched to llama. If the best he's going to give me is that I've been fishy, then I have no problem feeding him to the fish.

Fish Mooney wouldn't even let me touch her boob.

Wilgy's vote for G-Man:

DrWilgy wrote:

G-Man wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

G-Man wrote:I am changing my vote because I've got bigger fish to fry. Spacedaisy has been AWOL and has contributed nothing of substance thus far. It may very well just be that I've forgotten how Spacedaisy plays. Something just seems wrong about her soft posts and general absence though.

Looking over this, I actually really don't like this post G-Man. 1st of all, you can go back and compare to Daisy's other games. 2nd, you just finished Arrested Development with her.

Reading this post and the portion that I've bolded either means you aren't willing to double check a Meta that you are willing to base a vote on, or you are prepping yourself for an easy "oops, I guess I just forgot" when/if she's lynched as a civvie. Both of which screams bad sauce.

Linki - *Wilgy gives Sorsha a big hug! Now they both smell like tomatoes*

My favorite professor's advice: past performances are not indicative of future results.

Then why even mention the part that I bolded if you aren't trying to use that "forgotten" memory as a reference?
G-Man

My vote for G-Man:

Epignosis wrote:My initial inclination is to vote G-Man. That rundown of what, three-and-half pages...what was the point of that? It reminds me of that time in Star Wars (OMG I love Star Wars. Maybe you could come check out my light saber some time!!!) where a2thezebra posted commentary of everybody early on. It was premature and gave the appearance of looking good.

I worry about being premature.

I fail to see why my vote is more important in the scheme of things than his. I said I was going to break ties. Did he think I was joking?

I wish my sex life wasn't a joke.

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Answer 3 is what I'm reffering to being sass. You could've stated your opinions regarding players but you didn't. You also could have answered 3 before results were posted from the night.

If I have opinions on people, I state them. If I don't have opinions on people, I don't say anything.

Because I hate pointless communication.

And being single.

Epignosis wrote:Your vote on the other hand, was super heavy, had little provable reason behind it, and when asked about your vote I got non-genuine answers.

Little provable reason behind it. On Day 1. All right mate.

Wish I had a mate.

Yes little provable reason. Epi are we going back to Bullzeye calling it a quiet Day 1? That was most definitely not the case and there was plenty to form opinions around and judge players.

I didn't call it quiet. I didn't have opinions on anyone except G-Man.

Amazing I'm getting lynched because llama is out drinking and thinks I'm fishy, I called out Nerolunar and he's "reading me bad" (don't know how he can do that), and this.

But y'all go ahead.

It won't be the first time I've been disappointed.

DrWilgy wrote:Answer 3 is what I'm reffering to being sass. You could've stated your opinions regarding players but you didn't. You also could have answered 3 before results were posted from the night.

If I have opinions on people, I state them. If I don't have opinions on people, I don't say anything.

Because I hate pointless communication.

And being single.

Epignosis wrote:Your vote on the other hand, was super heavy, had little provable reason behind it, and when asked about your vote I got non-genuine answers.

Little provable reason behind it. On Day 1. All right mate.

Wish I had a mate.

DrWilgy wrote:
Epi has been turning down questions that I've been asking. Simple questions too, just opinions.

Turning down questions? You've directed three at me. Let's count them.

1. Answered.

2. Answered.

3. Answered, even if you don't like my answer (because I felt like being pedantic).

I have a question I'd like to ask a girl, but she'd probably say no.

It would be funny to lynch llama while he's being a gadabout and cavorting with the floozies.

Though he'd probably come back and brag in red about all of his lady friends and not even care about being lynched.

thellama73 wrote:I'm out at a bar, so I need to decide now. I think I'm going to keep my vote on Epi. He is keeping a cool head under fire, which I know is a core tenet of his baddie strategy.

I am almost never under fire. I've been lynched six times ever. So you know nothing.

I hope your beer is flat.

I'd love to have a beer with a flat girl.

Sorsha wrote:Linki- I didn't play biblical g-man so I don't get your reference

Deborah was bad news. I believe he was calling you bad.

I know a Deborah. She's really pretty.

And also my aunt.

G-Man wrote:There's only a niche group of girls who squee for toy collectors.

I guess it depends on the kind of toys you had to offer her.

Nerolunar wrote: I have suspected you a bit since people started mentioning your fluff, since I agree with that. You are doing better now, albeit only now when people called you out for it. I guess the same arguments apply to both of us to an extent.

No. It doesn't apply to us both. For three reasons:

First, my participation has nothing to do with people calling me out on anything. I do what I want regardless of what people say, time permitting.

Second, I said I would do better and put forth an effort because I hadn't done so. I feel like I have. The most you've done since I brought your name up was to counter-suspect and vote for me. That's continuing not being productive.

Third, I'm not the one who said people needed to be circulating their thoughts more. You said that. If you say that, and then don't speak your own mind in the thread, I have to wonder what's keeping you from doing so.

I also have to wonder what's keeping me from getting laid.

Nerolunar wrote:Hey guys. Im honestly reading you as bad Epi, sorry about that. It goes the other way around too - don´t accuse me of posting fluff earlier this game Its like you are passing on your accusations to me when I did in fact post some reads as soon as I joined.

Im getting pinged by Quin and Sig too. Im going to look at them very closely

Ugh, Im gojng to bed soon, and I have to vote. Im giving it 30 minutes.

You're "honestly" reading me as bad, eh? Why the superfluous adverb? Why are you sorry for it?

On what basis are you reading me as bad? We've never been in a game together, and you've never experienced me at all.

It isn't until I call you out on your low productivity (after you called for high productivity from everybody else) that you suspect me.

They tell me there's plenty of fish in the sea, and I think I caught me a good one.

Just not the kind of fish I was hoping for, metaphorically speaking.

DrWilgy wrote:You do, and I thought about that. Nero is right behind you in my head when I think about lynch candidates for today. G-Man's thoughts about Nero reflect my own currently.

Nero come elaborate on or share your thoughts. Who wants to join me in Nero pressuring?

Linki - oh hai Nero

I would, but I'm going to hold my vote for the last minute in case someone needs saving.

Nerolunar wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Okay I have read the thread and here are some thoughts:

C-man is almost the only one trying to engage discussion. I wonder why people don´t follow up on it and try to get some thoughts circulating.

Wonders why people don't try to get some thoughts circulating.

Has seven posts.

And three of those call G-Man's alignment into question, essentially restating the same idea without considering fresh evidence. That last one sounds bitter that G-Man didn't get lynched and could possibly come out looking good for it.

You know what else I noticed? Take this how you want, but Bubbles never popped in saying how good she was, which is like, her trademark. I realize she didn't post at all, but that's a minor thing to consider.

A major thing to consider is how I'm gonna get a girlfriend.

At the moment of this post there had been almost nothing but fluff and roleplaying. The three posts about G-man are responses to people who wondered about what I meant.

I wasn't concerned about there being fluff and role-playing before your post. What I'm pointing out was that after this post, you haven't had much more to say than your predecessor. Since Day 2 started, you haven't named one person you think is Mafia, even in light of S~V~S and Sloonei getting killed, and despite your post says you wonder "why people don't [...] try to get some thoughts circulating."

DrWilgy wrote:@Epi I'm not voting you for saving Bullzeye, I'm voting you for a mountain of fluff, lack of opinions about players and a sketchy last min vote. For someone to make a vote like that along with what you have provided for the thread, it's extremely hard for me to classify that near "possible civ behavior" at this time.

I've got more content than Nerolunar!

But probably fewer girlfriends.

Spacedaisy wrote:Did I miss how Epi already ended up with 2 votes?

They say I saved my vote yesterday to save Bullzeye, but the only thing I'm saving is myself for marriage.

Nerolunar wrote:Okay I have read the thread and here are some thoughts:

C-man is almost the only one trying to engage discussion. I wonder why people don´t follow up on it and try to get some thoughts circulating.

Wonders why people don't try to get some thoughts circulating.

Has seven posts.

And three of those call G-Man's alignment into question, essentially restating the same idea without considering fresh evidence. That last one sounds bitter that G-Man didn't get lynched and could possibly come out looking good for it.

You know what else I noticed? Take this how you want, but Bubbles never popped in saying how good she was, which is like, her trademark. I realize she didn't post at all, but that's a minor thing to consider.

A major thing to consider is how I'm gonna get a girlfriend.

S~V~S's first dozen posts or so don't have any value for locating teammates unless you question whether or not S~V~S would express distaste for her teammate's comments in the thread or in BTSC. This point is assuming llama or G-Man (or me, if you want to throw me in there) are on her side. I am of the opinion that she would express what she did in the thread where the upsetting comment occurred to serve as an example to everybody. Someone speak up if you think differently.

I looked at Willow, in which S~V~S was bad. It was a small affair with a 3-person Mafia. Early on, she only interacted with her teammate bea to edit out a piece of profanity (there was a child playing, but it's funny looking back anyway because bea's signature says "Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!"). She didn't interact with her other teammate (Eloh) at all. This gives me the impression that I should be minding the people S~V~S did not significantly interact with here. I am reluctant to vote G-Man, thellama73, or Quin based on this. Her singular interaction with DrWilgy was insignificant.

I don't believe S~V~S missed the vote on purpose. I almost missed it my damn self.

Not enough meat there, I'm afraid. That's what my last date said about me too.

G-Man wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm putting my vote on Epignosis for now. His game smells awfully fishy to me.

He is very busy with his Batman game but I have concerns. Hosting can be used as a cover for low or fluffy participation. I need to do a lot more thinking and re-do some ISO's.

While that's true, I won't use it as an excuse. I haven't given this my best effort. Sorry.

I'll do better. I'd hate to be lynched for smelling bad.

thellama73 wrote:I'm putting my vote on Epignosis for now. His game smells awfully fishy to me.

My game always smells bad.

DrWilgy wrote:-__-

Aw man, you're right. I'm sorry. I mean I would vote for S~V~S. But now I can't. I always miss the opportunities with the ladies.

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:For me, the random vote is not really suspicious. It's Epi's last minute vote to break the tie that has me worried.

I said I was going to break any tie that came up. It didn't matter who it was between. I don't like leaving things to luck.

I don't have good luck, especially with the ladies.

Epi, if everyone was tied at one vote who would've you broken the tie towards?

That's impossible. If everyone was tied at one vote, it would mean I had already voted.

But if it wasn't impossible, not Sloonei.

thellama73 wrote:For me, the random vote is not really suspicious. It's Epi's last minute vote to break the tie that has me worried.

I said I was going to break any tie that came up. It didn't matter who it was between. I don't like leaving things to luck.

I don't have good luck, especially with the ladies.

DrWilgy wrote:Re Epi: And you had to hold your vote till the very last minute to break a tie?

Did I have to? No...but that's how it worked out. It was 9:39pm EST when I came back to my computer. I voted, and then I spent the rest of the night at my computer looking at fourteen empty inboxes on various meetup sites.

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Epi saved Bullzeye

Did I? I'm so sorry. I won't do it again. Ever.

I just thought I was trying to lynch G-Man, like you, you know, being supportive of you and all that. Please don't break up with me. I can change.

Epi, I won't leave you. That's not what a good friend would do.

Why did you hold your vote till last min? Your vote was either very aggro... For a reason unknown, or very defensive to save Bullzeye.

*Wilgy begins to cover his kidnapped Quin in A1 sauce*

Epignosis wrote:I'll be breaking any tie that comes up, for sure.

I have a bad experience with ties. A girl once said she was torn between me and this other guy.

She picked the other guy.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Oh wow, Epi. Interesting.

G-Man's the best I've got and I almost missed the vote playing my statistical-based game called daily fantasy sports that requires me to analyze individual player stats to obtain a profit.

I try to tell the ladies that I'm pretty good at it, but they don't believe me or something.

DrWilgy wrote:Epi saved Bullzeye

Did I? I'm so sorry. I won't do it again. Ever.

I just thought I was trying to lynch G-Man, like you, you know, being supportive of you and all that. Please don't break up with me. I can change.

Thread's open at night, right? Anybody got anything to say?

Or am I being rejected again?

thellama73 wrote:Also, I don't know what you're talking about "the potential third power role". What makes you think there are only three power roles? Who said there were Indies? I think you assume a lot.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Heists
- Consist of 13 or fewer players
- Cycles are made up of 48 hour Day Phases and 24 hour Night Phases
- They have no more than three Power Roles

The kill counts as a power, correct?

I wish sex was a power. And that I got targeted.

thellama73 wrote:

Quin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

sig wrote:Interesting, though is that more likely a civ role or mafia role?

The weird thing is that I apparently have the same power as C-Man, and I am civ. So I have to wonder whether a) he is lying b) there is more than one civ with the same power or c) he is a baddie counterpart to my civvieness.

If you have the same role as him, what do you think about the potential third power role? Do you think it is the same as both of yours? Do you think there would be one for mafia, one for town and one for rogue/independent? When will Wilgy give me back my fish hat?

Impossible to know at this point.

Here's the thing. If Epi's vote was a save, it was an incredibly transparent one. But in a game like this, where the Day 1 loss of a teammate would be devastating, it might be worth it in the hopes of playing the WIFOM. I think I would be up for a Bullz or Epi lynch tomorrow to test this theory.

If.