The Syndicate

Quin wrote:I'm confused again since Nero actually was mafia. If there's two teams of 3 there's one extra that I can't explain. Maybe there was just one extra mafia on their team or something.

I don't get it either. Let's just hope we kill somebody, none of us die, and we can lynch someone else.

If there were that many teams, I'd be dead. I should be dead now. Why has no one killed me?

Bullzeye or spacedaisy. You call it Quin.

I agree. I think it's got to be llama or spacedaisy.

Quin wrote:As long as llama doesn't stick to you like he has been. I don't even remember what it was that started it.

With Wilgy and sig flipping bad, he's going to have no chance of getting me lynched now without looking bad.

I'm trying to set up the Bullz / Nero dilemma. thellama73 has added spacedaisy to the mix, which is fine too. I'm liking the opening of this day.

Also, setting up Bullz and Nero would likely force the two of them to have to vote each other. Tactic as old as the hills.

Quin wrote:I'm surprised I haven't screwed up yet. But we could do either, as long as it doesn't look like we're sheeping eachother so obviously.

I'm going to pound Bullz and Nero to make it look like the "town" (whatever that is now ) has only those two options.

Quin wrote:I don't think llama would be a good choice for me, since I've claimed I read him town quite a few times. It might be a bit sketchy.

It's amazing that we are all in one piece. We could either go for one guy (Bullz) or set up a dichotomy between Bullz and Nero. I favor the first route, but am not averse to the second.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Whatever the setup, I think it may be wise to consider us all voting together since we have our numbers.

That's true. Who would you recommend?

Bullzeye or thellama73. sig gave them both a pass. Bullzeye doesn't like to tangle with me when he is bad and llama has been hounding me for poor reasons. Both of them could go in light of sig showing up bad.

I think this past night was a huge shove in the right direction for us.

I wish I could give a girl a huge shove with my pelvic region.

Or a huge shove down a flight of stairs.

Sorsha wrote:

Quin wrote:Do you think that there are three mafia teams? Could it be some sort of starsign compatibility thing?

Could hosts confirm whether our starsigns impact the game in any way?

Four teams of three each?

Math doesn't check out. G-Man was a civilian. So they say.

Whatever the setup, I think it may be wise to consider us all voting together since we have our numbers.

Dafuq is this game

Quin will kill sig.

I assume from last night's discussion, we're cool with that.

If I'm remotely right about the setup of this game, I think my best shot at surviving a lynch is to pretend I won't be lynched.

You see, it's true that I've only ever been lynched six times in my life (three good, three bad, if you were wondering). That's from years of active playing.

But I've been Night killed more times than I can count. I almost never make it to endgame.

G-Man freely cast aside his protection. I would not do so- I would attempt to save myself in order to keep from being night killed (which is what always happens to me).

So it may be best to frame it that way, and if enough civilians also have these protections, they might buy what I'm selling and leave me alone.

Long shot, but hell.

Quin wrote:Who do you think we should kill tonight?

sig or DrWilgy. I'd be fine with either one. I'd be fine with anyone.

Golden wrote:What would Epi do?

Not spend $20 on an ugly ass bracelet with WWED on it, that's for sure.

When I wrote "one protection" in green, I meant that all those civilians had it (i.e., all civilians except the one without a night kill).

The civilian WITH the night kill would be there to (kinda?) balance it so that the civilians couldn't work out who was bad by process of elimination.

Speculation, but I host 25% of the games on this site, and I've been hosting nonstop since October. Whenever something is secret, I ask, "What would Epi do?"

Quin wrote:I had thought that I was lynch AND bulletproof going off of my role description. I interpreted 'attack on your life' to be all inclusive. Now I think I'm strictly a night-kill proof. That makes more sense since giving a mafia lynch immunity is unbalanced. I could have had fun with it if that were the case, though.

I sincerely doubt that there are two mafia teams. I wonder if all three power roles are vigilantes. If that's the case two were used night 1 and there's one more in hiding.

I think Wilgy might be a good kill tonight. He has a lot of confidence in what he's saying and he was completely unreasonable in attempting to lynch Epi so I think he could possibly be a cop if my previous thinking is wrong.

You survive the first attempt, meaning lynch OR night kill.

S~V~S got lynched as vanilla Mafia. Not a vigilante. That speaks to two teams. I cannot fathom any other scenario.

DrWilgy is completely unreasonable all the time.

I've been thinking about this setup ever since Sloonei and S~V~S died (and G-Man survived and died).

My initial instinct was that S~V~S had been a fake role reveal, but that's a Mafia power, not a civilian one (and a terribly nasty one at that). I was surprised.

In a 12-person game, 6v3v3 would be terribly unbalanced.

However, the protections are "mechanics" and not "powers," so with Quin, Sloonei, and G-Man all having protections,I think it means most people have them.

And there were apparently three kills Night 1, not two.

This is what I think the setup looks like:

Civilian
Civilian
Civilian
Civilian
Civilian
One protection, either from a lynch or Night kill.
Civilian with a kill

Mafia with a protection
Mafia
Mafia

Mafia with a protection
Mafia
Mafia

I think whomever we kill tonight will survive unless we hit the vigilante or the vanilla player from the other team.

Golden wrote:

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Um, that won't work. G-Man would just vote me and bring it 4-3.

You'd have to time it really well. But I don't know how easy that will be, seeing as the days aren't ending at a specific time.

Days are ending when the poll closes. You can set the time of the site to be your time zone, so that the poll will tell you when it ends.

Right- I didn't create the tie. We'll see how it goes.

Or see how it went.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Um, that won't work. G-Man would just vote me and bring it 4-3.

You'd have to time it really well. But I don't know how easy that will be, seeing as the days aren't ending at a specific time.

I don't know how much mileage you'd get voting Sorsha when she has no chance of getting lynched. People here will read that as distancing from your teammate for sure.

You're better off saying you think I'm genuine and try to save me (just my opinion- I'll understand if you don't want to risk that).

Um, that won't work. G-Man would just vote me and bring it 4-3.

Sorsha wrote:Leave it up to a coin flip at least

Better than nothing I guess.

These are the stupidest reasons to lynch me I've ever seen.

Save me. Bus me. Don't do anything. Ball is in your court team. I've never been mafia on a closed setup, so this is a brand new frontier for me.

I'd prefer to live though.

Sorsha wrote:Did the hosts forget who was on the baddie team?

Are there more secret baddies out there?

Shh...they might be listening to us...from the stars.

Quin wrote:Sweet.

I doubt there's a tracking power in this game, but just in case there is I'll do the kill since I think I'd be less likely to be visited at this point.

All right. Go ahead and send a Private message to the hosts saying you will kill Sloonei.

Let's hear what Sorsha thinks.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:Llama has come out and said he also has the same role. I think it would be bad for me to come out now.

Keep your power to yourself. No one needs to know about it. We need to decide on a kill.

I would suggest G-Man for confirmations sake. Or sig as an alternative.

Killing G-Man informs the civilians that his suspicions were genuine. His current status doesn't lean good or bad. He'll be a question mark tomorrow.

I would be in most favor of killing sig or Sloonei. It's bland, but it makes Bullzeye look worse. If he gets lynched, the idea that we are teammates is dissolved. Sometimes the vanilla strategy is the best,

Quin wrote:Llama has come out and said he also has the same role. I think it would be bad for me to come out now.

Keep your power to yourself. No one needs to know about it. We need to decide on a kill.

Quin wrote:are we still thinking sig, then? I am definitely worried I'll have damage control to do after but it might get worse if he lives.

You are new here. As long as you don't do something ridiculous or a cop doesn't check you, you should be fine. Keep doing what you're doing.

Quin wrote:

Sorsha wrote:So do we think the lynch survival is his only "power" or maybe he is a cop/doctor also?

I have no idea. Do roles that versatile usually appear in these games?

From our handy-dandy guidelines:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Heists
- Consist of 13 or fewer players
- Cycles are made up of 48 hour Day Phases and 24 hour Night Phases
- They have no more than three Power Roles

No more than three power roles. My understanding is that a kill doesn't count. So we have the auto-protect, and G-Man apparently had one. If the hosts went maxed out, there is one more civilian power role. It could be a role check (cop) or protector (doc) or something else.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:My initial thinking is to kill sig first.

What do you think about Wigleys doctor claim?

He always says that. It's in his name.

Alright then. Why do you think sig is a good choice?

sig usually gets lynched early, but that's a trend that is grinding to a halt. People are starting to consider his early demises and leave him be. He's not the easy lynch he once was. He is also unpredictable in terms of whom he will suspect, and once he becomes attached to an idea, it's hard to get him to shake it.

However, as I said, that's my initial thinking. Our first objective is to decide how we would like to approach the opening lynch.

I have always wanted to try having the entire team bandwagon a player Day 1, but nobody ever wants to go for it.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:My initial thinking is to kill sig first.

What do you think about Wigleys doctor claim?

He always says that. It's in his name.

My initial thinking is to kill sig first.