The Syndicate

see? SEE? If you had just listened to me...

... Urp...

MovingPictures07 wrote:Anyone find it interesting that perhaps my biggest defender, Devin, who is largely believed to be civvie (for good reason, if you don't believe me, re-read his posts), was killed last night, and NOW there's this huge movement against me?

Think about it.

Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Also, about time! I was tempted to start wearing Bullzeye on my back
I'm glad you didn't! I don't think I'd make a very comfortable backpack! I do think it'd be hilarious if you got rezzed now after all your begging to die

EBWOP: and thanks for the great game Daisy!!!

You guys have no idea how perfect that Night post was ...

Also, about time! I was tempted to start wearing Bullzeye on my back

Anywho, this ended up being a fun game after all (though I ended up creating my own entertainment).
But thank you to everyone for putting up with my crazy shenanigans and for going along with it.

As MP stated in an earlier post of his, I have some exciting RL stuff coming up. That being said, I will be taking a lengthy vacation from this website so I can put more focus on my RL stuff. But I may pop back in from time to time to see how much you all miss me

Laters!

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Sorry for playing so terribly. When I die in Six Feet Under or the game ends I'll try and be more active.

It is not that you are playing terribly! We just miss you!

agleaminranks wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:I'd also like more of an opinion from Timmer, Leam, and Borrokkuei (I'm mighty curious about what happened between borok and Trogdor, as well).
Something I noticed when reviewing the old polls: During the night 1 poll when the hut options were made public, borokkuei was in the same hut as Bullzeye when Trogdor targeted it, though it resulted in Bullzeye getting burninated. Then borokkuei was the victim of Trogdor the second night as well. It could be a coincidence, but I'm not inclined to believe in such things with this game. Was borokkuei maybe being targeted by Trogdor? I don't see anything in his abilities that would allow him to target a specific player like that though...

Just an observation.

That is an odd coincidence... I'm not quite sure what to make of that. I'm going to assume that we weren't supposed to see what happened with Borrokkuei, but it will be interesting to see how Night 3 pans out (whether or not Trogdor actually gets a victim this time). It also makes me want to keep an eye on Borrok. But I will wait until I hear from him.

Thank you for your input Gleam! Have you noticed anything else that seems suspicious?

Thanks Juliets! It needs to be said or I feel certain characters are just going to slip right by us.

Oh, and DP was in my first list slightly further up the page

I'd also like more of an opinion from Timmer, Leam, and Borrokkuei (I'm mighty curious about what happened between borok and Trogdor, as well).

Guys, I know this is a busy game and it can be very tedious to follow, but I don't want to kill off a civ for being to quiet. I know some of you are notorious for laying low, too. But Come On. Why do some of you hate me? Why do some of you like me? Is it my eyes? But enough about me. What do you think of everyone else? Why did you vote the way you voted? Why the hell didn't you vote for me??

Ok.. I'll be back to see if anything comes up. Here's some entertainment while I'm gone:

You know, I'm starting to get more and more wary of those who are remaining out of the spotlight. I'm going to put them on center stage for a moment. I'd like to hear opinions from DFaraday, DP, a little bit more from Gleam (Thanks for your input so far!(Even though you hate me

)).

I'll look to see who else I'm missing!

So I want everyone dead?

JK

@Bullz: I see that. But there will hopefully be a second chance for that. For the record I am not 100% certain.

Snow Dog wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Not sure why I need to vouch for Snow Dog, but I will do so for now. I do believe he is genuinely civ and I have no reason to believe otherwise.
I don't know why you say that but thanks anyway.

You're welcome!

Not sure why I need to vouch for Snow Dog, but I will do so for now. I do believe he is genuinely civ and I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Matt F wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Nice steering of the convo onto people who did not just lynch a civ. Let's examine those voters next, shall we?
I don't have a problem examining anyone outside of Llama and possibly Devin, so no, I was not steering the convo any which way.

Just have a problem with your idea that just because Hedgie was a civ, that you must be too.

Devin, what about da Goose? What's your read on her?

Other than the fact that her new red eyes look evil... Mongoose has played an amazing game so far and has stayed 100% off of my radar.

Mongoose wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I never made the causal link; you made that. I said it makes it more likely than not that we are civ.

The case on Hedge was so entirely poor, that's how I 'knew' she was civ. Her defense came across as extremely genuine.So we can continue down this ridiculous path and you'll all end up saying "Wow, I was really wrong about Mongoose. She was acting so strangely, so I really thought she was bad." You can do that and you will be Wrong Wrong Pete Tong and if you are a civ, you will wish you had trusted me.

Or you can listen to me and we can ferret out some bad guys. Getting Eloh on Day 1 was a mixed blessing because it's made us completely go off the rails, just as someone predicted it would. It was a Day 1 vote for goodness sake. No one really knows what's up on Day 1.

And this isn't a courtesy bus, no one gets free rides (RE: your concern of examining Llama and maybe Devin), including me. Hedge's voters should be explaining themselves right now, not me.

Let's retract the claws and point the teeth in a safer direction shall we? I have no reason to vote for Mongoose yet. I don't believe she was saying that because Hedge was civ, she is, too. (It is also not what I was saying).

I do agree with her that the case Hedge was extremely poor. I believe the comments reasoning that she would be a good person to lynch should be scrutinized for possible baddie manipulation. That being said: No one is off the hook/getting a free ride! Not even me! I'll go down swinging before before you let me out of my cell!

... What was I saying? Oh yes. I think from here, looking carefully at the people who voted for Hedge is a necessity. Do we need to lynch one of them? Not necessarily. But it doesn't hurt to start a process of elimination (ruling out possible suspects) there.

thellama73 wrote:I think Matt's argument that Snow Dog could be on Eloh's team is pretty unlikely. At this point in the game I am prepared to treat Snow Dog as a non-girl squad member.

Yup. Snow's a civ

Hedgie!

And I am going to be productive today... Maybe.

FYI, Yes Bullz, Hedge, and I are teammates

Well, I saw that coming.

Mongoose wrote:Wanting to die could have nefarious implications if you are a baddie. For instance, if you are rezzed, your vote is doubled and/or your powers are doubled. There's someone else I think may have taken this tack previously but seems to be laying low, but I am probably misreading that situation (and it's not Bullz).

I used my only rez

Vompatti wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Ture. I have a feeeling this will end badly.
Spread out votes are never good and I agree, it is possible these leading candidates are civvies (I know for a fact one is and strongly feel another one is). However, your statement pings me just slightly.

Who do you think is most worthy to die today, then?
Possibly A Person. I didn't think he'd get any more votes so I voted for you. I still Devin is the most likely baddie but he hasn't got any votes so far.

Yeah I'm a little disappointed about this, too

Ok... Skipping ahead to address the ridiculous case on A Person. I totally get why AP got himself thrown into the burning hut. I DID THE SAME THING THIS PAST NIGHT!!!! Why?? Because I knew I wouldn't die and I wanted to try to rescue a civvie. That obviously didn't happen, though. I'm not entirely sure what happened with Borok, but that could be a whole different set of circumstances.

How the fuck is there that much linki when I was typing 3 lines?!?! 3!!!

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: This is what I missed. i didnt say Elo was being voted for randomizing. I asked if she was, along with bea and jc as you point out. Its great luck that 3 people voted Elo, but seriously it was luck. Snow immediately regretted voting for her before he knew who she was. The case on her I know someone explained was not actually about randomizing, but I dont remember what it even was. This is exactly like the B for baddies theory where everyone looked for a BWT teammate defense vote when there was none, except here I am the only B candidate. Honestly, do you really think I am that careless a player if I were bad? I knew the moment she was announced as Whats her face I would be a suspect, but theres nothing I could have done differently..
See I'm torn here because I didn't really understand where the Elo votes were coming from and I know I'm not her teammate but at the same time I do think you were trying to save her. On the other hand, your point about Snow makes me wonder. Like maybe he voted for a teammate, realised he might have got her killed, and then come out saying oh no I regret that vote someone please save her. I also don't think you're careless (nor Snow) as a baddie, but people do make mistakes all the time no matter how careful they are.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I think hedgeowl looks bad, I will likely vote for her if I do not have to out of self defense because she seems a likely Elo teammate. Pay close attention to how she asked about llama manufacturing a case and how she says how lucky we were to get Elo. Seems very much like a frustrated Baddie.
I definitely might vote Hedge today now. I've also dropped my thoughts about Llama since they were mostly based on yours MP. I might also look into Snow based on the above.
Just saw this. Do you forget why Snow voted Elohcin? It was because he was taking a gamble trusting you because you both admitted info from the poll. Then he regretted it because he wasnt sure it was a good idea to have voted to protect you. Just wanted to clear that up, because I was not trying to cast suspicion on him.
Thanks hedge.
Yes that is right, I had forgotten the reason for my Elo vote. Even so it doesn't make me civ. I am, but this is not proof. I was wondering, do baddie teams get rez powers in mafia games sometimes? I am not voting you Hedge. I am fairly certain you are civ even though some great and insightful players have voted for you.

Linki with Bulz. Both are memories are poor then.
Baddies do get rezzes sometimes. Unless Devin is bad though (and I don't think he is) no baddies were involved in my return.

I'm not

Snow Dog wrote:When I am abed I have thoughts. I remember the Thomas game where Bullz and nev, two baddie teammates buddied up to me and played me completely. And then I think of the MP, Dev, llama interplays anditreminds me of the same thing. I wonder if we are all being played here by an extremely vocal baddie team. First all "you're bad...no you" and then the "Oh I beleive you are civ after all and so is he" and he says " and the third says "He is civ too"

All suddenly vouching for each other.

OMG That would be badass!!! We would totally think of doing that, too, LOL!
And what if Matt F were in on it, too? With his big argument against llama,
then my "if llama's civ, you're going down, Matt!"
"Oh really Devin?"
"No

"
and then the "Dude, I think he is a civ now. Devin and Alex, you 2 should totally reconsider this."
"Oh yeah! We totally get what you are saying! None of you are bad to me anymore"
"Awesome! You're not so bad yourself, bro"
"Totally! A Person freaks me out a bit. I'm going to look at him now..."
That would be great!

Matt F wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Linki Matt F: That makes perfect sense to me! I just hope you are looking at the right role
And because of this, now I no longer believe we should be looking at CBK. Unless I'm proven wrong about you in the future.

Let me ask you this...how sure are you about MP's civvieness?

I know Alex personally. He definitely reads frustrated civ to me here. Unless he is be extremely clever in this game. But given his RL circumstances (both current and recent) I doubt he would have the time and energy to be that clever (no offense to MP). So I would say I'm 95% sure he is a civ.

Linki

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Holy s**t! Normally I'm okay with people being involved in games this early, but this is almost too much for me! Will catch up and post some thoughts, but probably won't be done until after dinner.

I definitely should have been doing something more productive with my time today

Tomorrow is going to suck

Vompatti wrote:It does make sense. All I can say is that I was willing to go with Matt F's wild theory until the unexplained llama votes started piling up. I assumed there must have been some BTSC going on, so I voted for you in an attempt to save llama (who seemed to be getting lynched for unclear reasons). I still think it's possible that he's bad, but he's nowhere near my number one suspect at the moment.

I can respect your response, as well. But I do still stand by my original reason for voting for llama. I agreed with MP that we were seeing a completely different llama from the Bioshock civvie, llama.
And because of the fact that you had those "exchanges" with llama before voting me (and because I already voted), I stand by my vote.

Linki Matt F: That makes perfect sense to me! I just hope you are looking at the right role

Matt F wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:MP & Matt F - are you saying you both think llama and Devin are not bad now? I read a lot and want to be really clear about this.
I highly, highly doubt Llama is bad. I dunno about Devin.

Vompatti wrote:I'm curious what's the main reason Devin thinks I'm bad as he seems to be the only one who's really pushing for me.

The following are your comments to/in response to llama that have caught my

I can't believe I'm about to go back and look for them

Here it goes:

Vompatti wrote:Llama, who are you going to vote for? I know that Matt F's theory is a bit random but honestly it's about the only theory so far. BWT's vote kind of came out of nowhere though, so I do see this as a possible bandwagon which I hesitate to hop on.

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote: wrote:Tired of waiting. I'm voting for Devin too.
The same.

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Captain Bunny Killer wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I see two civ roles that can survive lynches, plus one with secrets.
So, you had to check? And you don't know how you survived, which which could only be true if you're not one of those roles. To be fair, it's actually kind of a hard place to be. You could just be trying to avoid revealing your civ role, not that that's what I have concluded.

I don't have all the roles memorized. I had to check. I was protected by an agency outside of myself. I am a civvie. That's all I can say.
The way the poll went makes me think you're probably good, but if you're not one of these two or three civ roles, why would you bring them up at all?

Whew! I survived!

Anyway! Although, no one can agree or disagree 100% that llama is baddie or a civvie, these "interactions," paired with your vote, have me pinging like crazy!
My vote for you is by no means a revenge vote. But you voted for me right after llama and some time after you stated that llama and JC were great places to look (agreeing with Matt Fs post regarding llama, JC, and Dom).

I hope this at least makes sense and that I'm not sounding like a crazy person!

Matahari wrote:I'd like to hear an updated opinion of vomps from mp and gleam, if that's doable guys? Thanks!

What is your opinion on this Mata? I apologize if you have already given it.

Vompatti wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Never mind, just saw the last page.

Devin is the most likely baddie if you ask me, but I'm not voting yet in case I need to vote for MP to save myself.
Guilty
Guilty because I want to keep myself, a civ, alive?
Sorry! Didn't mean for that to be confusing. I was calling myself guilty... Of being a baddy...
Ooooooooooh. I can agree with that.

I thought you might!

Snow Dog wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Anyone heard from DFaraday recently? He was the first to latch onto me in Day 2. I forgot he was playing again.
I've been wanting to hear from him a while.

Yes, I would really like to hear from him, too! Especially in regards to how the Day 2 vote went down!

Vompatti wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Never mind, just saw the last page.

Devin is the most likely baddie if you ask me, but I'm not voting yet in case I need to vote for MP to save myself.
Guilty
Guilty because I want to keep myself, a civ, alive?

Sorry! Didn't mean for that to be confusing. I was calling myself guilty... Of being a baddy...

Anyone heard from DFaraday recently? He was the first to latch onto me in Day 2. I forgot he was playing again.

Vompatti wrote:Never mind, just saw the last page.

Devin is the most likely baddie if you ask me, but I'm not voting yet in case I need to vote for MP to save myself.

Guilty

borokkuei wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Lizzy wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:You know devin too?

I wasn't going to vote for you (yet) or llama but not sure about Devin. I'll probably give him a pass too.I'm still rankled by the fast bandwagon on him. But whoto vote for?
I'm tellin ya Vompers may be the way to go today. I love and admire the little wombat, but he pings the shit out of me more than anyone else this game
Not while I'm still alive!
We'll see.
Lizzy and Vomps protecting each other in this thread kind of pings me a bit, like they might be on a baddie team together, but I haven't actually noticed anything in their text indicating that they might be bad. I'll vote for vomps since the deadline for voting is soon and I'm about to be busy and I have no idea who else to vote for.

Sorry bro.

Sweet!

Hedgeowl wrote:THIS IS YOUR CAPTAIN SPEAKING. FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL PASSENGERS PLEASE SLOW DOWN THE POSTING.

Seriously folks, it's been over 12 hours since I checked in, but I am pretty sure many of us were sleeping during that time. It makes it really hard to catch up and make a good choice voting today.

Ok, now I will start reading the 4 pages created.

Linki- four more posts while I typed that! Go hang out in another thread. We have movies, tea, beer, anything you want.

Linki 2 - 5 posts 6!?!?

I do apologize for being a part of this. I know how frustrating it is.

That being said: A vote for Vompers is a vote for civvies! ... Unless he flips civ, then ... shit...

thellama73 wrote:I don't interpret Devin's posts as role hints, personally. I am leaning civvie on him right now, to be honest.

Ditto

I think I can cut you some slack for the time being, llama

borokkuei wrote:
A Person wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote: Yeah I don't feel like digging for quotes either. I don't remember defending myself much... Just asking for more vores to get me lynched.
1. vore

Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia).
omnomnomnomnom

Snow Dog wrote:
Lizzy wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:You know devin too?

I wasn't going to vote for you (yet) or llama but not sure about Devin. I'll probably give him a pass too.I'm still rankled by the fast bandwagon on him. But whoto vote for?
I'm tellin ya Vompers may be the way to go today. I love and admire the little wombat, but he pings the shit out of me more than anyone else this game
Not while I'm still alive!
We'll see.

Indeed.

A Person wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote: Yeah I don't feel like digging for quotes either. I don't remember defending myself much... Just asking for more vores to get me lynched.
1. vore

Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia).

WOW

That statement took on a whole new meaning! ... I like it!

MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, sneaking back on for just a second because this could be important.

Llama, I really need to know what you think of what Devin said at some point. Hopefully you know exactly which quote I'm talking about.

I think it's possible Devin might have false rolehinted...

I also think I want to read back through Mongoose and Hedgeowl but I really don't have time. Hopefully someone else can do this?

Anyway, really gotta go. Hopefully others pick up this discussion. I'm not so sure about llama or BDH anymore, to be frank...

Linki: Wow, welcome back, borokkuei! If you are good anyway. Look forward to what you have to say.

Is it the one where I said I only lied once in the entire game?? Because that was a true statement. Or was it? It could have been the only lie. I could be lying to you right now. This statement is false!

Wait.... Was Kate the other Trogdor victim??

Haha! That's 2 out of 2 Trogdor victims that have come back!

Vompatti wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I am still reading Devin as a civvie... but want to see what others have to say about his intentions. And Mongoose and Hedgeowl and, hell, just about anything else. I've said enough now.

Personally, I thought Devin's desire to be killed was somewhat role-related but also somewhat RL-related. He and I both know how busy each of us are at the moment. He's getting married in just two months.
I'm sorry to hear that, but I still think he's bad.
Can you elaborate as to why? I would appreciate that, actually.
Because of the lynch where llama nearly got killed and how Devin defended himself during and after that lynch and accused us of a bandwagon etc. I think that was maybe 500-700 posts ago if you care to look for quotes.

Yeah I don't feel like digging for quotes either. I don't remember defending myself much... Just asking for more vores to get me lynched. And I never said you were a part of a bandwagon. I said my own vote for llama was a part of a "baddie bandwagon"

Gee, now that I think about it you might be right Vomps!

Linki: Welcome Back Borokkuei!!!

Snow Dog wrote:You know devin too?

I wasn't going to vote for you (yet) or llama but not sure about Devin. I'll probably give him a pass too.I'm still rankled by the fast bandwagon on him. But whoto vote for?

I'm tellin ya Vompers may be the way to go today. I love and admire the little wombat, but he pings the shit out of me more than anyone else this game

MovingPictures07 wrote:I am still reading Devin as a civvie... but want to see what others have to say about his intentions. And Mongoose and Hedgeowl and, hell, just about anything else. I've said enough now.

Personally, I thought Devin's desire to be killed was somewhat role-related but also somewhat RL-related. He and I both know how busy each of us are at the moment. He's getting married in just two months.

Ding!

Alex has a busy life. And this is by far the busiest thread I've ever seen. There's an overwhelming amount of posts to catch up on and no one seems to be getting what he is saying in his frustrated posts. MP is a civ. I will not vote for him. And I'm leaving it at that.

Linki from the deepest pits of hell.

thellama73 wrote:
Matt F wrote:FYI to those who care, I think I've got this so no more shenanigans.

Llama, what is your opinion of CBK, who broke the tie between you and Devin by voting for you in the last poll? Do you think there could be a connection between CBK and Devin? Do you think SVS could be right, and MP and CBK are on a team? Do you find it odd that MP does not want to vote Devin, even though saying he could very well be a baddie?

Since I feel clueless in this game so far, I am looking forward to your answers, since I very well believe you to be civvie.
I don't know. I am generally nervous about people who pop in once every few days, say one thing and then leave. It is a really easy thing for baddies to do, especially when you have furious walls of text being flung back and forth like we have in this game. I did vote for CBK on Day 1, so it's possible it was just a revenge votes. I don't really find it odd that MP won't vote for Devin, because he is determined to vote for me regardless of what else happens. The more I see of Devin, the less I think he is bad, to be honest.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
I don't care who knows. I've stated my 2 goals in this game and also that I don't care.

Indeed you have. That post and this statement here don't give me warm fuzzies about you.
Ok

I wanted to cut this down, but I think the full quote is better.

You are intentionally misinterpreting what MP is saying. He said it is a different REASON as to why he finds you bad. So he was saying in that third paragraph that he still finds you bad.

I'm starting to feel you're twisting words that MP is using against you. He's not cleared yet by any means in my book, but I think you've made your way up there in terms of players I will be looking at today.
Thank you for saying this. I was starting to feel this way about his relentless attacks on MP, too. It's definitely something to consider in the near future

Completely random thought, David. I have been trying to follow along on his facebook page, but if Devin Townsend announces tour dates and I just happen to miss it, please let me know. I would very much enjoy another semi-short road trip to see his epicness live again
I haven't seen him announce much lately. I'm thinking he's going to be doing more touring around the end of the year/beginning of next year after Casualties of Cool comes out. Plus he's going to be starting work on a Ziltoid TV show that he's releasing on the internet somewhere at some point. But of course you'll be one of the first people to know. You're easily as much of a Devy fanboy as me.

Also, I pre-ordered the remastered Strapping Young Lad boxset back in the spring, and it finally came in the mail yesterday! Really excited about that one!!!!

Sweet! You know it!!!

Matahari wrote:Devin, sometimes the petty shit is just something someone else felt like they needed to say What in particular are you referring to?

Just an observation

Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote: All over the place, huh? I've had 2 goals this entire game:

1). Get killed.

2). Help the civs as much ass I can before I get killed.
Why do you want to die? If you're a civ you can help us better by living.
Because I am tired. I don't have the energy nor the desire to keep up. I do so, though, because I have respect for Daisy and want to keep this game fun and silly (if only for myself) as it was meant to be. Daisy has done a fantastic job with this game and its dynamics so far!

Devin I don't think is bad. I don't see a baddie acting like him, and he said his playstyle is inspired by people like Lizzy and Dex who tend to act crazy as civs.
Thank you for noticing. Others seem to ignore the blatantly obvious.

Thank you for your comments Bullzeye. They are refreshing and welcome!

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