The Syndicate

A Person wrote:i was surprised i was allowed to live as long as i did

You were a great HHH!! I never suspected you once!

S~V~S wrote:Squeee~!

We were really lucky, we made some really good role checks while we still had Boomslang~ we got Hulk Night One, so were able to block him pretty much every kill night. We also found the LD, protector, and a few other high profile civvies. We had checked FZ (Mick) so when CBK came up Mick, we knew she was Eddie, and that same night or the next night, Eddie killed a civ, which we knew as we had checked Daisy after she put the finger on MP.

In the end MPs strategy of hard distancing did pay off (although we had some spirited PM arguments while it was going on lol) since I don't think I took any real suspicion the whole game. And Bass is a freaking genius. That is all

I am SO GLAD I was right about Devin from the beginning I am also interested in hearing that teams strategy~ why they killed a member and why Devin was not insanifying people.

It's funny that you guys were the reason I survived the Hogan kill attempt, too. You were pretty spot on the whole game, SVS. It was sooooo frustrating, lol.
I was so busy throughout most of the game that I didn't have much time to spend in the chatzy. We had so many replacements and busy players that I almost gave up early. Thanks for not letting up on me and keeping it interesting

When only Summer and Matahari were in the chatzy (this was when Matahari was starting to get some attention on her), Mata came up with the plan to have Summer, who was Edge at the time, kill her off with the hopes of getting a quick rezz from the Undertaker or an event win. That, alas, never happened.
And poor Bird was so busy during this game. He didn't care that he was Nked the first time and lynched when he replaced in. I lead the lynch against him in the hopes of getting civ cred

Thank you to bea for stepping up and being a great teammate!! I hope we get a chance to be teammates again from the start of a game!!!
Thank you to are Host for an amazing game! Your posts were spot on and super fun for a fan to read!!!
And thank you to all of the other players for making this a super exciting game to play!

Bass_the_Clever wrote:who else played the mini games because I won everyone but the first royal rumble and the last royal rumble.

I only played the last Royal Rumble and ended up winning a protection... Which I clearly should have used

Also, WTF Vomps!!! You killed me!!!

Well played SVS!! I knew you were bad!! I just couldn't get anything to stick

FYI, I was the second to last Arrogant Heel

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I also want to know if we are sure that we should look at vomp and wog?

Yeah, I'm not sure what it means that wog has been kept alive for so long. But I don't think I like it.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:SVS, I would love to start making some actual progress in this game. I will vote with you, again.

*A Person*

Such a perfect day.
You just keep me hanging on....

Oh, wrong game

:P rezz some peeps yo.

I wish!

SVS, I would love to start making some actual progress in this game. I will vote with you, again.

*A Person*

Such a perfect day.
You just keep me hanging on....

Oh, wrong game

Sooooo this is still going?

bea it is!

What?

Did I miss something?

OMFG!!! The New Age Outlaws!!! D-Generation X! SUCK IT!!!!

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I really want to vote a person but I want to give him a chance to defend himself so I going to go ahead a vote dex .

Well there's a curve ball for you

S~V~S wrote:Can you be direct, please?

I thought I was direct. If he is telling the truth about saving you, of course. That is how I have read at least 2 of his posts now.

Damn it.

I know who the Lie Detector is

... there.

S~V~S wrote:A Person (cypher)
Bass_the_Clever
Bea
Devin the Omniscient (voted SVS)
DisgruntledPorcupine
Epignosis
Sorsha
SVS
Vompatti (voted Dex)
wrathofgod (won't vote)
Zany Dex (self voted)

Six of us who have not already voted are likely to vote, counting DP~ so maybe that should be five. AP may or may not. We are down to the wire. I feel most confident of a DP or Devin lynch~ if i do start taking votes, I will vote AP if i have to to save myself, since i really do not know if he is civ or not. I will not break my ass to actively save Dex, but i find it unlikely he is bad. He mostly says that "OMG I AM SO BAD" stuff when he is a disinterested civ, he just does not talk at all when he is a baddie or lets his teammates lynch him for cred. Which does make Vomps votes for him kinda more intriguing.

Linki~ i asked you if you read the thread after the last lynch, Devin. The host posted some clarifications that made Epis suspicion of me notch down, although i am not sure what he is thinking today. He might vote for me again, i really don;t know.

Well, I'm going to go watch a movie with my wife. If this is the last thing I post alive in this thread, let it end with: I know who the lie detector is

He is apparently going to save you... And I reread everything. I stand by my vote like I said before. I am confident in my suspicions. But if Epi is telling the truth, it won't matter if EVERYONE ALIVE votes for you.

Vompatti wrote:Voted *Dex* again.

You are killing me, man.

S~V~S wrote:I am sorry, I did miss it, in your shoes, I would have done what i did and voted for the person I believed in my heart was bad, and not relied so much on what other people said. Sometimes stepping away from the suspicions of others and developing your own can give you clarity.

And tbh much of the reason people voted for me last time was that bass claimed he made a mistake and meant to vote for CBK, and there was some misunderstanding of how a role worked. Once the host cleared that up, suspicion of me made less sense. As least as far as i know, perhaps Epi might vote for me again. I am not 100% sure what he was trying to get at last night. He was insanified, i had a few glasses of wine, lol. Not the most productive conversation.

So tell me, did you only vote for me rather than Epi becasue you felt I was more lynchable?

I will try to respond to the paragraphs in order. So you don't believe that I believed in my heart that Epi was good, and that he had a legitimate, trustworthy case on Mongoose that made perfect sense to me?

I believe that bass meant to vote for you, and that his mistake was saying that he voted for CBK. As far as I know he said nothing to the effect of "I meant to vote for CBK instead of SVS."
Yeah, I'm not sure what Epi is getting at either. But I assume you mean that he was still insanified last night as in 1/11 and not Night 9. He was pretty sane when he voted for you Day 9.

Both of you are lynch worthy, imo. But I am not having luck at all with my votes this game (the obvious exception being bird) I vote one way and the rest vote another way. I don't think it will be any different today. But to answer your question, Yes.

Linki: ignore the Bass section of my post Thank you for correcting me before I could make the error.

S~V~S wrote: And Devin, yeah I can see MP do that.

I know it's easy for you to say that in this scenario. I would say it in your shoes, too. But consider this: MP has gone out of his way countless times to throw his teammates under the bus. He typically does that as soon as the opportunity arises. In this case, if I was on his team, it would have been much smarter for him to throw me under the bus rather than defend me. The only reason I can see for him defending me the way he did is he legitimately saw me as a civ and, had I been lynched, he would have benefited greatly from my early death.

You also ignored my question in the previous post.

Linki: I think both of them are bad still. It would have looked really good for Epi had SVS been lynched rather than CBK and flipped baddie. Now suddenly I'm the only one voting for SVS so far? I saw nothing to convince me to change my vote. I now suspect Bass, as well. I don't trust him/her(sorry ) anymore either. And no, I'm not evading the question. I am convinced that SVS is bad based on my gut feeling. I just don't have the ability to build a case on her/them.

Go for it!! I can't balance 2 games anyway

I'm not the only one who's been flippy floppy. But I see why I would look suspicious to you, SVS.

I will only say the following in my defense:
1. I was convinced by Epi's case against Mongoose and voted before him because I didn't want to forget about it later after getting off of work, and because I had convinced myself that Epi was going to vote for Mongoose anyway (which he did didn't he?? Yes is the answer to that). Normally I wouldn't turn on someone immediately following the lynch of a civ. But the reasons Epi gave for his giant case against her, for the delay of his vote, and finally for his mongoose vote made me feel betrayed, and like I had been manipulated into voting for a civ (the latter is most definitely true).
So let me ask you this? What would you have done in my shoes?

2. As for your initial ping on me regarding CBK: I was right about her being a "non-civ" on Day 1, wasn't I?

3. I was right about BWT and was the first to vote for him.

4. And finally, I appreciate MPs defense of me early on in the game. But do you really think he would go that far out of his way to defend a teammate?

I will leave you to make your decision. I'm ok either way

S~V~S wrote:Why exactly? Have you read anything said since before the night post? There were a lot of mistaken assumptions going around

Yeah, just did. I'm still happy with my vote today. I don't trust you and your distrust of indies who can win with anyone. If they are going to side with the baddies, why not use them to locate the baddies first? You were just too quick to get rid of Eddie for me to be comfortable with it.

Epignosis wrote:If HHH is dead, that means Elohcin was him. Triple H didn't kill on Nights 1 & 2, but killed every Night after that. Elohcin didn't post much, but did not miss the Day 1 & Day 2 votes. So I'm having trouble reconciling this. I'm therefore inclined to think that it was a missed PM.

Well, I was close anyway


*sing-song voice* And we're blowing up the thread with some multi-posting from hell

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Dom wrote:i can't believe this many people are still alive

I can't believe I'm still alive!

Why are you surprised by that?

The comment wasn't specific to the Day or Night post. Just for the whole game in general.

Shouldn't last too much longer, though

... My surprise that is.

DFaraday wrote:Day 9 - Viva La Raza

The mob's torches were lit up, their pitchforks were sharpened, and they were determined to catch a killer.

"It's Epi!" shouted Devin.

"It's me!" shouted Dex.

Dex

I skipped that part last time.

S~V~S wrote:Yes it does, i don't trust indy roles, i never have, and i never will. they have different motivations than we do, and will stab us in the back if it means survival for them. i think an indy with access to a kill is a dangerous Indy.

i have said this is lots of games where i was a civ, and i will continue to do so. Becasue i believe it to be true.

Even though it was my win condition to photograph 4 dead civs in Bioshock, I still won the game with someone who started out as a civ. That was a special case game, but the point remains the same. Civies who wanted to live (And were not one of the 4) could have won with me, and I would have been completely willing to work with them to make it happen. Case and point, Nevinera.

Epignosis wrote:I think S~V~S is Triple HHH.

This is hilarious to me. I think Epignosis is Triple H.
If SVS is Triple H I would be dead by now. But thanks to this post I will probably die tonight

And yes, that means I don't think they are teamies as much as I did before.

Still ok with my vote, though.

Went ahead and voted for SVS because I'm absolutely sure of my vote this time.

Dom wrote:i can't believe this many people are still alive

I can't believe I'm still alive!

CBK. I'm very sorry to see you go because I muffed up my vote... That seems to be turning into the theme of the game.
On that note, Sorry to Epi for voting for you instead of SVS.

Now it just looks to me like you're throwing a teammate under the bus

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Maybe I didn't know.

Maybe I could go at any time.

And, I call BS. I'm pretty sure you're bad, and I think it's time everyone stops giving you a free pass. Yeah, I know I've been the center of a lot of accusation, but I'm willing to take the risk to help take you down.

And so it begins... Go ahead, tell me how I'm hypocritical or grill me. I'm ready.

I do agree agree with the portion of her post highlighted in NOT sarcastic orange, though.

S~V~S wrote:I am the one trying to make CBK look suspicious, becasue she IS suspicious, lol.

Yes, these things I know now. Sheesh... Can I change my vote to SVS?

I still think you're teamies...

Mongoose wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yo here I is

And your prickly preponderances are?

Only you can keep DP from being short for "Doesn't Participate"

Epignosis wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote: And here they are yet again trying to persuade people to vote CBK.

To be fair, I don't think I've tried to persuade anyone to vote for Captain Bunny Killer.

If Eddie can steal HHH's power again, then Eddie can take out HHH with his own kill. And given that all Eddie needs to do is survive (not kill people), that would be a wise move. And it would deprive of us HHH's company.

Yeah... Sorry for that. Poor choice of words on my part. Your whole back and forth with CBK making her look suspicious thing is what I was referring to. In your defense you never said "Hey, the rest of you should vote for CBK" or anything like that.

S~V~S wrote:NVM just woke up, I misread, Lol. And I like your style, I tend to do text without a lot of quotes too.

Almost forgot!! Thank you for this, SVS! I'm glad you reread my post

Mongoose wrote:

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Whoa, wait, hold up, Mongoose! How'd we go from indi to SK?? Nobody has accused me of being the SK that I know of yet. Are you suggesting that?

I'm not - I thought Devin had labeled you as an SK in his most recent post, but after I saw this post of yours above (^), I reread his posts and it mentions you as a potential indie, not a SK.

Aren't the indie and SK, kinda-sorta the same thing? Anyway, Why would someone alone want to kill off someone they could potentially work with? In my experience as the indi team leader, things got a lot better when I found someone to work with.

The motives of SVS and Epig just seem in sink in this scenario. And they've been practically in sink this whole game. I found another instance of myself mentioning the 2 of them being on the same team much earlier in the game last night. I don't believe anyone responded to that one either. And here they are yet again trying to persuade people to vote CBK.

Thank you for the apology Epi. I look forward to more sarcasm

And Bass, I trust my gut feelings more than anything. In Homestar Runner Mafia I rezzed Bullzeye as a civ really early on and I was 100% accurate in saying that Vompatti was a baddie mcbaddie pretty early on, too. I was civ with no intel whatsoever.

I was still at work and needed to be clear and concise with my thoughts as I didn't want to be there past 8:30 pm
Vague is not how I would have described it, though. And now that I have time before bed, here ya' go:

Think about it... I'm telling everyone to look past what is happening in the thread. I see an enticing dance going on in thread between 2 well respected individuals in the mafia world and their pawn. Still too vague for you? I believe you and SVS are on a team. That is a powerful combination right there. And it's been very effective so far. You, Epi, being the far more manipulative player in the thread have performed a very effective song and dance. 'I'm clearly a civ, idiot. But I don't care what you do. You'll see.' This is a very effective tactic because of it's intimidation factor. While not being used to this extreme, the principal is still there.
SVS has been less successful in getting people to follow her. The fact that I haven't been lynched yet shows this. But that doesn't make her a baddie. Urgh... I attempted to do a reread on SVS but I don't have the energy for it right now. Part of it may be that she won't let go of me, but I definitely feel she is a baddie-mcbaddie doing nothing but dirty deeds with Epi.

That being said I think she is right about CBK being Indi. But I can at least win with an Indi, right?

Linki: On a personal level, Epi, I don't appreciate being called a shit. I'm trying to participate and you call me a shit? You seem upset that I am calling you out. Did I strike a nerve?

To All:
If you don't like my style or how I build cases and you can't respond to them in a friendly or intellectual way... GO FUCK YOURSELF.

This is why I disappear occasionally

Mongoose, My response was to Epi's response to me.

Linki: <insertmiddlefingerhere>

That's very tactful, light-hearted response.

I won't be playing into your hands anymore.

I just had a sudden change in the feeling in my gut... And it's a strong feeling, too.
I'm going with it.



I encourage everyone to look past what's happening in thread.

Bye now.

Epignosis wrote:

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Hm, no response still. Well, while checking back in I also noticed something else from this:

Epignosis wrote:It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

Why HHH? Didn't the post seem to link Eddie w/ Edge? And isn't Trisha another role that can steal powers? Your explanation for HHH not killing makes sense, but I find it odd that you tried to make that connection.

Don't worry chuckles. I'm writing my response now. I had to wait for my BTSC partners to tell me how to respond to your damning case on me because I wasn't sure how to go about it teach my classes, work with the students in my guitar club, drive home, take a shower, get a beer, and now I've sat down.

Sorsha wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:But I AM a Hulkamaniac...

Sorsha wrote:Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?
Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Ture on both counts! The TH point, I guess, means less reading

And <High Five> for surviving the NKs with me, Sorsha!
I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

And finally, TH, Lou, and Lizzy

Why high five me? Weirdo.

Why not?

EBWOP: *Last Night*

Epig: How did you know you wouldn't die tonight?

Epignosis wrote:Also Host, when I'm dead (won't happen tonight) what EVER will you do without me?

I didn't think anything of this comment before the night post when Almost 5 people died.

But I AM a Hulkamaniac...

Sorsha wrote:Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?
Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Ture on both counts! The TH point, I guess, means less reading

And <High Five> for surviving the NKs with me, Sorsha!
I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

And finally, TH, Lou, and Lizzy

Yeah I can never tell with Lizzy's game. But I don't care to try anymore because I feel she hates/dislikes me despite my adopting a similar style to hers... Which is a shame because I used to admire her. Oh well.

Woot!! Good job guys!

I'm sorry you have been sooooo busy, David!! I can relate.
I do look forward to playing with you in the Game of Champions!!

Turnip Head wrote:Wow you guys are annoying to try and talk to. I'm done trying for today. Nobody else is talking (seriously, where are all the civvies?!?) and the people I try to talk to won't engage in any meaningful conversation with me. I've brought up plenty of points, asked plenty of questions, but they only get answered with snide remarks and crypticness. Placing my vote on BWT now.

I'm here! Just watching the show. <seriously, we need a popcorn emoticon>

Yes. DP rarely ever says anything when the game takes off the way it has. So much reading to keep up that it takes away from all of the fun of the game. I tend to feel the same way but try to keep my participation at a sufficient level.

WOG, I'm surprised hasn't been replaced yet... She has started out in 2 games with me and then disappeared almost immediately.