The Syndicate

bea wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Town MVP: SVS
Scum MVP: MovingPictures07
Proving yet again....the most dangerous person in an MP game is............MP.

new people think I'm joking...he has...a history.....

True true.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Emotion

Well done

Ahem... Diiny was the SK

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO JJJ AND MM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND RICO!!!!!

Russtifinko wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:Just so you guys know, MP would never prolong an unwinnable game. So the fact that we all just voted means you still have a chance. I am about to explode with the tension.
Oh hey, me too.

Jay, hold me.
I'll hold you.

....want some drugs?

You shit

Eff.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Breaking the rules on purpose is not a strategy and will not be tolerated.

Okay. I will say no more, then.

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epi, what is your stance on Devin and espers right now?

Also, the current tally is shenanigan-central. I think it's moving in the right direction, but more is needed.

I wasn't planning on moving my vote.

I voted Devin to save Sorsha, and I could vote espers to save Devin.

None of this is ideal to me.

You won't be saving me. I can't be saved.

I will point out that espers isn't the only other option, if you feel it isn't civ friendly. There are enough votes scattered across the board to open up the possibility of a coordinated vote move. You 6 (or fewer) have the ability to control this lynch. Although time is short now.

Linki: that was before I requested a replacement. I'm not giving him a choice.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:My alignment? Who cares? My intentions? I want death.
I'll help the thread one last time. Right now there are 6 votes being wasted. Do with them what you will. But remember that I am guaranteed death now.
I care immensely about your alignment, and no matter what your alignment is killing yourself is a detriment to your team -- to people who are trying to win.

But if I'm destined to die by lynch, then my only course of action seems to be removing myself from the board, and giving the civilians a second chance to use their votes wisely.

It should be obvious. If I have to throw another rule in MP's face, I will. But I will say that maybe you should look at the voters who refuse to move.

My alignment? Who cares? My intentions? I want death.
I'll help the thread one last time. Right now there are 6 votes being wasted. Do with them what you will. But remember that I am guaranteed death now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Did I mention that I need a replacement?
Look, this cannot happen. Replacements aren't coming.

We've already had to modkill rundontwalk and there may be others to follow. I beg that people do not voluntarily throw in the towel this game, regardless of alignment or RL circumstances, unless they absolutely feel they have to. In doing so, the balance of the game will not be upheld. I do not want to have to modkill more players if I don't have to.

I'm less busy than I was when the game started, irl. I know you're out of replacements

Did I mention that I need a replacement?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Secondary. But I see your point. I didn't even notice that I contradicted myself. There might be something to that
When you supported the case against espers, you cited "the points made by others".

What points were they and who made them?

Don't you remember?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:General alert:

There are numerous roles in this game that affect the vote tally. It might be necessary to generate a little separation between lynch candidates (at least near to the deadline) to ensure shenanigans are avoided. I hate shenanigans.

Anyways, I have to go shortly, so let me help with this. VOTES FUCK THE MAN!!!!

Diiny wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Diiny wrote:whilst I'm reading Rico, devin, it's pretty funny that I asked people to shove their questions and problems with me in my face and despite you tunnelling me the whole game you've not interacted with me in the slightest on this, my dramatic re-emergence from the void. What do you have to say for yourself, young man?
How young do you think I am?
The question is: how young do you feel?

That's a discussion for another day

Diiny wrote:whilst I'm reading Rico, devin, it's pretty funny that I asked people to shove their questions and problems with me in my face and despite you tunnelling me the whole game you've not interacted with me in the slightest on this, my dramatic re-emergence from the void. What do you have to say for yourself, young man?

How young do you think I am?

Ricochet wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Me thinks the Doctor's putting Devin near the center of the graph is convenient
As far as I recall, everyone left of Zebra (who's at 0) is negative on the scummeter, and everybody right has scumpoints, in increasing order.
*Slowly nods head* I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I understand the graph perfectly.
Ok...

My position on the graph is suspicious. Why am I not more suspicious?

Ricochet wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Me thinks the Doctor's putting Devin near the center of the graph is convenient
As far as I recall, everyone left of Zebra (who's at 0) is negative on the scummeter, and everybody right has scumpoints, in increasing order.

*Slowly nods head* I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I understand the graph perfectly.

Me thinks the Doctor's putting Devin near the center of the graph is convenient

Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I've had a really busy day, been in and out non-stop. Kinda forgot I had to vote. I'm going to stick with a *Vote for Devin* because I do strongly think there was a constant scramble through the day to keep Sorsha ahead of him in the lynch every time he got near her.
You're so bad (again). I would vote for you but I can't shake my espers suspicion.
Because I've voted for you?
Because meta
Care to be more specific?

Recruitment

Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I've had a really busy day, been in and out non-stop. Kinda forgot I had to vote. I'm going to stick with a *Vote for Devin* because I do strongly think there was a constant scramble through the day to keep Sorsha ahead of him in the lynch every time he got near her.
You're so bad (again). I would vote for you but I can't shake my espers suspicion.
Because I've voted for you?

Because meta

Bullzeye wrote:I've had a really busy day, been in and out non-stop. Kinda forgot I had to vote. I'm going to stick with a *Vote for Devin* because I do strongly think there was a constant scramble through the day to keep Sorsha ahead of him in the lynch every time he got near her.

You're so bad (again). I would vote for you but I can't shake my espers suspicion.

Like, expand your horizons, Man.

Secondary. But I see your point. I didn't even notice that I contradicted myself. There might be something to that

sig wrote:I'm not sure about this espers vote it has gained alot of attention and shifted focus away from yesterday's lynches. If I recall correctly the top choices were Devin, Sorsha, and Russ? This has become entirely redirected to espers. I don't like it I have a feeling this is another civ bandwagon, I will be voting for Devin. I expressed some suspicions of him in the past and I don't like how he just managed to get by yesterday which resulted in a civ lynch.

Lynch Devin

What I find funny about this post is that you're adding to another civ bandwagon. The baddies were having a great day in the last phase. They'll have another great day if we don't spread our field of vision. Why do you insist on tunneling the "top choices?"

Switching to espers. I could get behind a bcornett lynch, too, wilgy.

Ricochet wrote:Thursday is one of my two days filled with classes and right now I'm nearing bedtime and exhaustion, I can't do full reads and top 6's tonight, sorry. Diiny has been on the better spectrum for me so far, but given that my reads have concluded in shit results until now, I'm probably one or two mislynches away from doubting myself. I do remember his D4 vote being highly dubious, but I need to check that in full context. Apart from that and the other pings, he wanted me dead on D3, but I have no particular feelings towards his hunt compared to others'.

I don't understand your busy accusations on him. The silencing thing was probably sarc to a few of us considering him silenced or something. Doesn't the "busy rl" disclaimer apply to anyone experiencing it? Sure, an invested player might still try to push himself to get something done until a Day ends, but why demand it so heavily? What makes you think he might be particularly phoning it in?

After typing that out I do feel like I may be stretching a bit.

Now I'm questioning myself THANKS!

If I have time to go into more deets before the end of the day, I will. I just have a lot to do

Okay. My Diiny suss in a nutshell.

Started the game not feeling great about him because of tone and Roxy back-and-forth (shouldn't be hard to find this on page 1 of his post history).

Diiny wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Diiny wrote:I do agree with Wilgy's idea that claiming to want to change up your playstyle post rolecard distribution is fishy. That combined with his timid non-stance on LC and his bea vote make him a lynch I'm certainly not regretful to be securing to save myself.

Diiny wrote:Out of all the BWT votes I think Wilgy's is one of the worst. Guy's a scum lean for me, now. Basing a vote on day 0 shit and sticking with it and not grappling with anything else for the rest of the day is bad stuff in my book.

Explain this flip.
That's nae flip, kid.

I thought BWT was a decent lynch because of all of the evidence (as I said in that post), wilgy's comment included. That doesn't mean I endorse wilgy's vote, (which was based on ONLY a single observation from DAY 0 that took into account nothing from day 1 if I remember correctly) or indeed wilgy himself. His single point was valid, and would have made for a fine ingredient in a fully fleshed out, impeccably cooked vote. Unfortunately, he just sprinkled it onto a plate and called it a day.

I still have a scum lean on him.

I agree with Rico that this flip didn't look good at all. I don't feel any better about his response to Rico. Seemed contradicting.

@RICO: How do you feel about him now?

And then there was the long absence and the sudden reappearance with this post:

Diiny wrote:lol, I'm really proud that I managed to somehow convince the thread I was silenced. One of my finer moments, no doubt.

Been super busy with uni plus work experience overlapping so I haven't really been posting. I've been skimming the thread on my phone when possible, but I'm not super caught up. Gonna have to realistically choose between sorsha and devin unless I hate both cases or something

Why would an active player not want to come into the thread and scum hunt? Even if busy irl, you should still be willing to pop in and give your 2 cents on everything going on at the time.

Oh yeah... BECAUSE EVERYONE WILL EYEBALL YOU!!!!!!

And sig, since I haven't spoken to you much (if at all), I'll get an answer for your question when I get a chance. I have about 2 hours to finish up this project at work.

Is it only me, or does anyone else see that JJJ is still on night 4? Lol.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Why?
My suspicion is meta-based, but I notice you post a lot more in the thread when you have BTSC. Same thing happened in Recruitment, where you were quiet all game until you were recruited. Flash is a little harder to figure out, but you were quite active late in the game, at a time when I'm pretty sure you had BTSC.

Fair enough

EBWOP: voting Diiny today. Sorry hosts!

@bcornett: The only thing I have to say about your mega post against me is that I did indeed make efforts to defend myself when Matt F and JJJ were questioning me. Did you read those posts before calling it bullshit? Anyway, "good luck defending against this?" I feel no need to respond to the rest of your post because all I see is bullshit.

Anywho, voting Diiny today. Because, reasons.

Yeah, Epi. I am not at all satisfied with bcornett's response.

You're the first vote on my bandwagon, bcornett. Why did you think I was bad before?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Devin, who else do you suspect beyond Diiny?

Diiny is obviously my main suss now. Espers is my immediate second for reasons already stated by others. Bullzeye, Matt F, RDW, and Floyd are my other lesser pings. Bullzeye is pure metta. It feels like a repeat of his baddie style in recruitment (Tones and vibes). Matt F (More tones and vibes, man). I'll try to be more specific during the day phase.
Trying to get off work an hour early so I can start moving my larger furniture items into my new house. I have very limited time with the trailer that I'm borrowing.
Srs questions for you, JJJ: Do you think baddie rdw would be participating more? Seems unlikely that a scum would risk being mod-killed by the sock god.
What is your current view on Floyd? Do you think the "I don't know how to play" (act) is pure bologna to disguise the fact that he's on the baddie team? I was particularly pinged by his recent vote on Elo.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Here's a view of Day 4's lynch with the two main players involved at the forefront.

Spoiler: show
Devin the Omniscient
9
bcornett24 (15), Sorsha (16), JaggedJimmyJay (22), Bullzeye (23), Black Rock (25), Ricochet (26), Golden (27), DrWilgy (31), Epignosis (33) 27%

Sorsha
10
Choutas (6), seaside (8), Devin the Omniscient (9), Strawhenge (11), motel room (17), Matt F (20), Elohcin (24), MacDougall (28), espers (29), Russtifinko (30) 30%
My question to any player pointing the Day 4 lynch out as a save: Why could it be a save?

Sorsha led the lynch 4-0, 6-2, and 10-7. It was tied at one point at 7-7, but at no point did Devin lead the lynch (unless someone had switched their vote from one to the other, which I have not looked into yet). If this was a save attempt, MacDougall, espers, and Russtinfinko look the worst for their votes.

Looking back Bullzeye is the only one who pointed out "save attempt". But he mentioned no names to be doing the saving.

Also, I do not forgive him for voting for me on Day 3.

This is WIFOM for everyone else, but I can say with 100% certainty that there was no save attempt. No point for one. As I typed that out I remembered that Epi's vote on me was a save attempt for Sorsha. So let me clarify. There was no save attempt for my life. No point.

Linki: None of the final 3 votes will make them look bad once I am revealed. Just sayin'.

fingersplints wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Sorry for missing the vote. I had no idea who to vote for, no one even tried to summarise, and it's honestly unlikely I will ever catch up since there are 76 pages. I regret agreeing to replace into this game before checking the thread. I won't make that mistake ever again
Sometimes a fresh mindset is a good thing. You don't necessarily have to catch up with this entire thread. You can just read it as it comes to you starting now and share your perspectives starting now. If by chance you make an assertion that is contrary to thread evidence, I am sure someone will say so and you can go from there.
I don't have many thoughts right now. Roxy is still the person i trust the most. I don't expect you all the believe my reads off her, but I know Roxy, and she is a civ. I feel alright about you, and I think I feel ok about Elo, but I am not that really confident about that one. It's mostly a gut read off how I think a baddie vs civvie Elo would act in a game of this size.

I think that the votes look like there could have been a save for Devin. (Particularly the last three guys at the end there - but I haven't read them this is off vote timing).
With a 1 vote difference it certainly looks that way, doesn't it? That's too easy.
Sometimes the easy answer is right one.

I get that. I'm just frustrated. Not trying to attack you directly.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Diiny wrote:yeah, this isn't informed but I don't want to get penalised. Golden because he's obviously scum guys
Diiny, you're a demanding townie. You expect things out of people and try to get things from them when at first they don't supply them. This voting methodology is so... timid. Even if you hadn't managed to catch up with the entire game, you have had plenty of time as an active contributor to get some kind of feeling at least on Devin and Sorsha. You failed to place a relevant vote in a very important spot and that I really don't think town Diiny lets that happen.

Sooooo you planning on voting for me again? Or are you starting to see what I was seeing in Diiny?

fingersplints wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Sorry for missing the vote. I had no idea who to vote for, no one even tried to summarise, and it's honestly unlikely I will ever catch up since there are 76 pages. I regret agreeing to replace into this game before checking the thread. I won't make that mistake ever again
Sometimes a fresh mindset is a good thing. You don't necessarily have to catch up with this entire thread. You can just read it as it comes to you starting now and share your perspectives starting now. If by chance you make an assertion that is contrary to thread evidence, I am sure someone will say so and you can go from there.
I don't have many thoughts right now. Roxy is still the person i trust the most. I don't expect you all the believe my reads off her, but I know Roxy, and she is a civ. I feel alright about you, and I think I feel ok about Elo, but I am not that really confident about that one. It's mostly a gut read off how I think a baddie vs civvie Elo would act in a game of this size.

I think that the votes look like there could have been a save for Devin. (Particularly the last three guys at the end there - but I haven't read them this is off vote timing).

With a 1 vote difference it certainly looks that way, doesn't it? That's too easy.

So sorry Sorsha

Seeing as I received 9 votes to her 10 we should shorten the next day phase so you guys can go back to baddie hunting. It's pretty obvious where Day 5 is going to go. I know where I'm voting.

Bullzeye wrote:Forgot the poll ends earlier now. Will have to vote soon! Probably won't stick with Russ since he's unlikely to be lynched today. I still don't think Sorsha is bad. Will consider a Devin vote more strongly and see if I want to commit to that.

Shall we have a repeat of Recruitment IV old friend?

Only difference is, I'm not bad

Golden wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?
I still want to vote for diiny. He seems to have completely disappeared.
No idea on the other 2.
Has Diiny Rooter at unwarmed today? blowhole porringer simpering he is silenced?

That's why I'm still going for Sorsha.

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

I still want to vote for diiny. He seems to have completely disappeared.
No idea on the other 2.

EBWOP: * I think

@bcornett - I can't find your post in which you voted for me...

Linki: This is the closest we have, think..

It does suck to see that my efforts were all for naught, though. At least in the cases of JJJ and Matt F.

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