The Syndicate

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:33 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:31 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:48 pm I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol

You’re doing a fine job

i question this assumption

he's being treated the opposite of how i was being treated when i was new

we're both prodigious teens, i'm the most similar person to him in thread, funnily enough

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:26 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:23 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:48 pm I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol

this post got me very fucking suspicious of threadstate

this is dennis's first game of mafia

he has more influence than most players playing for over 10+ years or so

i find that extremely strange

He is gifted and talented. Scores off the charts on everything he attempts. Kinda scary smart.

This is like the fourth time you've shown me off this game.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:27 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:26 pm He is gifted and talented. Scores off the charts on everything he attempts. Kinda scary smart.

i know, i'm no different from him, using myself as a metric and it's still never happened to me

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:23 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:48 pm I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol

this post got me very fucking suspicious of threadstate

this is dennis's first game of mafia

he has more influence than most players playing for over 10+ years or so

i find that extremely strange

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:22 pmhey

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:18 pm This thread is scarily quiet for being half an hour before EoD. And I don't think having two pretty clean people here will result in that much progress.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:18 pm This thread is scarily quiet for being half an hour before EoD. And I don't think having two pretty clean people here will result in that much progress.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:53 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:46 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:35 pm

Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.

Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.

This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.

This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.

I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.

For me, it's getting to the point where it's a numbers game. Not too far back I posted a list of the players that most townie-ish players believe to be the most likely wolf. Of those people we pared it down and the consensus ended on him.

I like your post and I can see why he appears civvie, I don't see anything overtly civ tbh other than your last point. That post does look townie talking about what could be wolf strategy but it's not unheard of. In face our host Gman did it to me in the last game regarding an OT green curse that the baddies controlled and that HE placed on me.

That's what I was saying; it's not these posts in particular, it's more in general he feels townie. And it's not like I'm 100 percent sure, he could still be wolf. I just don't see any baddie intentions.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:35 pm

Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.

Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.

This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.

This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.

I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:39 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:38 pm I'm 98% sure at least one wolf is on Soneji, I wouldn't be surprised if there was 2.

Why? The wolves have had their choice of many wagons today. Who do you think they’re protecting my putting possibly two wolves on it?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:14 pm I want the Soneji wagon to explain because I haven't seen much of anything anti town about their posts and I'm not crazy about sitting back when someone I think is civ is being elimed.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:55 pm vote Scotty f it I'll be out here by myself, it is my strongest susp so imma go with it and call it a night. again no one engages.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:27 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:16 pm People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

That’s true we did have lots of people.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:18 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:37 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:21 pm seanzie is not really helping anyone at this point they are hindering the thread imo. Humble as can be. I have read seanzie from D 1 as town. Neon is making me doubt myself. Gonna read back on seanzie.

it's only a hinderance if I'm wrong.

No it's a hindrance either way because you are derailing the thread regardless and burying info

It's more of a hindrance though because you are wrong.

I also think it's hindering other substantive talk that could have been had. I am left out constantly and no one remembers my posts bc they are in the middle of a battle royale! (anyone remember Map's game from Rev? so fun!)

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:56 pm Kk I’m gonna go commute in NY during the holiday season.

May I get home with my body and sanity intact.

@Golden and Kate, do you recall the game at RM where we voted in a circle, everyone voted for the next person on the list and why the fuck did we do that ?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:52 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:48 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:45 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:44 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.

Now do you think riling up a player and derailing the thread is town or scum indicator?

He did it to me day one, and I think he’s civ

It’s my experience that 90% of the time this kind of thing is civ/civ.

I agree with this.

Except you don't think it's civ/civ because you've stated I'm being wolfy.

Should i call this a tmi slip

Nah I think it’s civ/civ

Flirted with you being wolf but I’ve come around. I’m listening to others including Lucy, svs.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:45 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:44 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.

Now do you think riling up a player and derailing the thread is town or scum indicator?

He did it to me day one, and I think he’s civ

It’s my experience that 90% of the time this kind of thing is civ/civ.

I agree with this.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.

The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.

I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?

Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.

The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?

I think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:24 am @Roxy come back and play with me! I miss you

Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:57 am again no one engages while I'm here . Idk when I'll be back but sometime before elimination's end.

I feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me

I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!

Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?

FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.

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I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.

The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?

Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.

I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.

Questions/posts I noticed so far:

Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?

Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:08 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:06 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

I don't think you understand how hard it is to be wolf. Some people are naturals, but many people can barely post until they've done it a few times, and no matter how hard you try, you get severe writersblock as a wolf unless you experienced/a natural/get into the groove. You can't tryhard out of writers block usually.

Can you actually maybe analyze the game and not a new players reason for subbing out how about attack my play thank you

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:54 pm Wombmate?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:53 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:47 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:46 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:41 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

That's the thing, he is no stranger to discord so if he had an actual chat with people in it do you think he'd avoid it or try to play along?

Is this not an actual chat with people in it? Are you all figments of my imagination?

I don't understand your question. Do you mean if he played with people he doesn't know? Because he would probably avoid that.

The baddies are assigned a chat room where they conduct their btsc. So if he were bad, he would have gotten a link to that discord chatroom.

If he was in a Discord chat with people, he would probably feel weird NOT playing along. So I think it's more civ how Jack had little to nothing said, if you look at it a certain way.

Does that answer your question?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:46 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:41 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

That's the thing, he is no stranger to discord so if he had an actual chat with people in it do you think he'd avoid it or try to play along?

Is this not an actual chat with people in it? Are you all figments of my imagination?

I don't understand your question. Do you mean if he played with people he doesn't know? Because he would probably avoid that.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:38 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

As you should do thank you for that

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:21 pm I cannot find a bearing for why you are still suspecting seanzie, and that it my biggest hang up on you really, Kate.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:25 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:18 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:12 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

What are you asking me here Golden? Cut to the chase.

OK, I'll cut to the chase.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Are you crazy?

You aren't yourself

You sheeped onto the sabi vote and didn't really give reasons.
You haven't voted today all day even when saying you suspected splints.
You haven't paid attention on Seanzie at all... you just keep saying you don't understand his posts even while explaining one of them basically perfectly. I don't get the vibe you don't understand them, I get the sense you're preserving an option.

When Sean said he gutread Neon as bad something clicked for me.... I voted Neon to see what it did for you.

It caused you to accuse Sean of derailing, and to say 'wheres the real golden gone'.

I'm here, and I'm coming for you.

Well, I'm here and you are barking up the wrong tree. Look at seanzies posts. He was posting pretending he was in a chat room, doing nothing to move the thread forward just posting nonsense. The beginning of the game he was on about only tunneling. If I'm wrong about him, So be it, but as a first time player with him something seems very wrong.

That stuff just feels like personality to me.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:18 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:12 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

What are you asking me here Golden? Cut to the chase.

OK, I'll cut to the chase.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Are you crazy?

You aren't yourself

You sheeped onto the sabi vote and didn't really give reasons.
You haven't voted today all day even when saying you suspected splints.
You haven't paid attention on Seanzie at all... you just keep saying you don't understand his posts even while explaining one of them basically perfectly. I don't get the vibe you don't understand them, I get the sense you're preserving an option.

When Sean said he gutread Neon as bad something clicked for me.... I voted Neon to see what it did for you.

It caused you to accuse Sean of derailing, and to say 'wheres the real golden gone'.

I'm here, and I'm coming for you.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:12 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Where is the real Golden and what have you done with him??

I've been saying splints the whole day period, it certainly wasn't a reaction to Sean. Splints being bad doesn't mean neon is.

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

What are you asking me here Golden? Cut to the chase.

OK, I'll cut to the chase.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Are you crazy?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:12 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:46 pm

You reacted to Seanzie’s posts today by voting for fingersplints when Sean specifically called out splints as neons teammate. Doesn’t Sean’s theories push you away from splints?

Where is the real Golden and what have you done with him??

I've been saying splints the whole day period, it certainly wasn't a reaction to Sean. Splints being bad doesn't mean neon is.

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

What are you asking me here Golden? Cut to the chase.

OK, I'll cut to the chase.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:46 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:39 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:24 pm

The intent is pleasingly obvious… he thinks neon is bad.

"Many" of his posts, not just that one.

You reacted to Seanzie’s posts today by voting for fingersplints when Sean specifically called out splints as neons teammate. Doesn’t Sean’s theories push you away from splints?

Where is the real Golden and what have you done with him??

I've been saying splints the whole day period, it certainly wasn't a reaction to Sean. Splints being bad doesn't mean neon is.

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:46 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:39 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:24 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:01 pm I liked seeing the raw data, which is why I immediately asked.. what can we do with this.

Tbh I felt like Neon, Golden and I were going in the right direction with neon's new additions. Then Sean came in and derailed all that. Sean I'm trying really hard to believe you're town, since so many do but I'm struggling to understand your intent with many of your posts.

The intent is pleasingly obvious… he thinks neon is bad.

"Many" of his posts, not just that one.

You reacted to Seanzie’s posts today by voting for fingersplints when Sean specifically called out splints as neons teammate. Doesn’t Sean’s theories push you away from splints?

Where is the real Golden and what have you done with him??

I've been saying splints the whole day period, it certainly wasn't a reaction to Sean. Splints being bad doesn't mean neon is.

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:46 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:39 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:24 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:01 pm I liked seeing the raw data, which is why I immediately asked.. what can we do with this.

Tbh I felt like Neon, Golden and I were going in the right direction with neon's new additions. Then Sean came in and derailed all that. Sean I'm trying really hard to believe you're town, since so many do but I'm struggling to understand your intent with many of your posts.

The intent is pleasingly obvious… he thinks neon is bad.

"Many" of his posts, not just that one.

You reacted to Seanzie’s posts today by voting for fingersplints when Sean specifically called out splints as neons teammate. Doesn’t Sean’s theories push you away from splints?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:24 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:01 pm I liked seeing the raw data, which is why I immediately asked.. what can we do with this.

Tbh I felt like Neon, Golden and I were going in the right direction with neon's new additions. Then Sean came in and derailed all that. Sean I'm trying really hard to believe you're town, since so many do but I'm struggling to understand your intent with many of your posts.

The intent is pleasingly obvious… he thinks neon is bad.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:13 pm @Kate I see you haven’t voted yet- who would you blast into the sun right now if you were voting?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:37 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:32 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:23 am At this point neon oozes town for me.

You went from this to voting Neon that fast just because of Seanzie? Why is Neon so obviously bad?

Great, I thought I was taking crazy pills.

Are we the only sane ones left, Kate?