The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

S~V~S wrote:
Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.

Well now, hold on. After night one you made a big deal about how DFaraday was a bad target to NK, which is why I and maybe a couple other people were looking at you, but now you've entirely changed your position to that it was redirected. Baddie slip up, or just taking your own theories too seriously?

LOL, I said that this was why i said that.

You have been trying WAAAAAAAYYYY too hard to paint me bad. As i recall you were looking at me, and a few people that understood what I was getting at and backed off.

No

More like, there is reason at all to believe that NK was redirected unless it was your NK

S~V~S wrote:
Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.

Well now, hold on. After night one you made a big deal about how DFaraday was a bad target to NK, which is why I and maybe a couple other people were looking at you, but now you've entirely changed your position to that it was redirected. Baddie slip up, or just taking your own theories too seriously?

Yeah I was probably unclear.

I meant entire team has potential as in every member on the team could, in an attempt at their life, probably be protected. I think I also went over this already

I didn't say that.

Any member of the team could be protected on a particular night, is my read of it.

Boomslang wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Welcome back droopy.

Hard to tell whether surviving an NK is civ or baddie. Not even counting all the role secrets, I see multiple ways that somebody of either persuasion could survive an attempt. Not sure this result helps us label the two attempted targets at all. We don't even know if it's good or bad that they survived. We do know, though, that neither Ziltoid nor Herman killed a civ tonight for sure, so that's positive

And yeah, I don't see myself not voting vomps - barring a bad slip up

There are a lot of secrets, but seems to me most of the survivability powers are civ. Captain Spectacular survives Ziltoid attacks, Omnidimensional Creator can survive any attack, Mike Patton can impersonate Spectacular or the Creator to gain immunity. Moondog "conceals," Exuma "keeps away evil spirits," etc. I think it's significantly less likely that either of the survivors are baddies.

Except that it sounds like an entire baddie team has potential for an NK protect

• Ziltoidian Monk – He prays every night for the safety of Ziltoid and his comrades. If his prayer is successful, any members on his team may live to see another day. Naturally, he prays harder for his own survival than anyone else’s, however. (Secrets)

Shouldn't she earn an o, not an i? That way she could at least correct it properly

juliets wrote: like who is Rob

Epignosis

sorry, he a friend of a lot of us from Progarchives + it's a lot shorter to write

so uh, do we get a poll today?

assuming a "night prayer for safety" is what it sounds like, even

Probably, but not necessarily DH. It seems unlikely that Ziltoid's army would try to NK their own player - and the Ziltoid Monk's role is one of the known (by everybody, I mean) powers to protect from NK. But since we have no idea how reliable his prayer protection is/what the mechanics behind it are, not sure if they would be willing to bluff their kill like that to try and protect one of their own.

theories omg

Welcome back droopy.

Hard to tell whether surviving an NK is civ or baddie. Not even counting all the role secrets, I see multiple ways that somebody of either persuasion could survive an attempt. Not sure this result helps us label the two attempted targets at all. We don't even know if it's good or bad that they survived. We do know, though, that neither Ziltoid nor Herman killed a civ tonight for sure, so that's positive

And yeah, I don't see myself not voting vomps - barring a bad slip up

^ I forgot to use sarcasm orange in a couple places there

reywaS wrote:
I think I can trust DH at this point, so his suspicion of INH is noted. I think we need to lynch Vomp next though. There is way too much there to ignore.

Maybe, but I still think his suspicion of INH (at least initially) was completely baseless. He wanted to avoid punishment by making sure he completes the hosting challenge? Oh no! What a blatant baddie move!

I didn't like that giant-ass post DH made on day one that entirely consisted of grasping at straws, either. But, I think that vompatti's badness is a probably a surer thing.

Vompatti wrote:

The Truth wrote:Honestly, Vomps is acting a little strange it seems.

I'm sorry, it won't happen again.

Yep, correcting your behavior when it gets pointed out to you isn't a baddie attempt at blending

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Aww maaaaaaaaaan. I love Captain Beefheart, so it makes me sad to know that Droopy was him. RIP Droopy.

I suspect I am going to have to look elsewhere for upcoming lynches. Also, since I will be out most of tomorrow with the gf and her family, I think our Sockian host should go ahead and award me one of the 3 participation prizes. Just sayin'.

"elsewhere" as in "not the guy we already killed" ? Good idea

I'm just gonna be voting vompatti again, unless he NKs me first

Mask damnit

I think he just doesn't much care for Trout Mast Replica

juliets wrote:Hi everyone - I know some of you from other forums and then there are others that I'm not familiar with but look forward to playing with. Please give me a little bit of time to catch-up. Are there lynch records somewhere or should I create them as i read? Also, anything else i should know as I start this? Anything you're looking for an opinion from people on right now that I can keep in mind as I read?

I think i can be completely caught up by tomorrow though it looks like a daunting task. Thanks for any help you can give me!

IIRC somebody will have posted the voting from each lynch shortly after the hostposts

reywaS wrote:Has Benthayer15 posted?

Also, where is Roxy?

I heard there was a death in her family, so that would certainly explain why she isn't around.

As it turns out I got home soon enough to catch the lynch today, but already voted. I don't think anything happened since this morning to make me not suspect vomps, so that's good then. Looks like the lynch is pretty decided though

Well, if Droopy ends up lynched + bad today we will probably look more closely at that theory, rabbit

His vote for a baddie after a near-slip was odd?

Unfortunately, if he's civ and posting the way he has been all game, it doesn't help us in the slightest bit. I think it is more likely he's bad though. I haven't seen a single actual explanation for one of his votes, which can happen because people can't help but know their teammates are bad and it's harder to see anybody else as such. Just too many pings this game

votes vompatti

Kate wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:See, there's that incredible agressiveness again. "either you're with me or you're against me" stuff, and that sort of "Vote Droopy or you're his teammate" stuff does not fly in Dharmaville baby.

Luckily what I'm selling, sells in Kateville. Honeypie.

I lol'd

Kate wrote:I'm too tired to read back right now but I don't believe that droopy has even denied his baddie ness.

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright, Kate, seriously? Your big ping about Droopy is "he never said he WASN'T a baddie!!!" ??
I've not said "I am a civvie" all game, doesn't mean I'm not a civvie.
I'm still locked in on either Rabbit or INH, but for this lynch I'm leaning on voting INH...

Actually the interesting thing I noticed here is that Droopy explicitly claimed he was civ literally his first post after Kate's observation.

Anyway I'm going out this afternoon so going to vote within the next 15 minutes or so.

If you have something worth saying, withholding it isn't going to make you seem like a civ. Just FYI.

I remember my first mafia game

I wrote down notes and shit

was basically useless

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Right now, I'd say my biggest two suspicions are Droopy and Vomps. A bit lower on the radar are SVS, DH, and rabbit. Wow, 3 people that ping me almost every game regardless of their role; what a surprise.

I guess it's possible I have this problem with SVS too. But,

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:All I'm saying is that others who claim to know SVS thought it uncharacteristic. And since I thought her initial comments about DF's death odd when I first read them, this seems to back it up.

I'd be interested to know what Trice has to say in response to your confirmation that nothing was out of the ordinary.

Yeah, I wasn't even the first to comment on that, I just got singled out because I voted for her instead of waiting ('cept I wasn't around) and following either the rabbit or bea cases. I'd have to read back but at least 2 other people said that they thought it was weird before I said a word

S~V~S wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote: You've been in every game of mafia I've played and never done that before

so

If i am not mistaken, I was bad in two of them, and an indi in one,
so

I thought it was bad in just one but I could be wrong. I dunno, 4ew isn't around anymore to check + I only played one or two games on The Piano. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt right now, mainly because I'm probably voting for vompatti.


I'd also like to reiterate the fact that rabbit always sounds like a baddie simply because he's an asshole. Makes him hard to read.

lots of linki - lolwut

S~V~S wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:I feel like if vomps had teammates/btsc, they would tell him not to do most of the things he has done this game. I also feel, however, that most of his actions/posts have no logical civ explanation

I also still feel like SVS's uncharacteristic "big deal" was weird. If we knew which team Lorab had been on, that would probably make me feel more strongly about the whole shebang. I just don't know right now.

You must not know me very well if you think that was uncharacteristic. Having had two unusual kills, getting people to talk about it can sometimes help find the killers~

You've been in every game of mafia I've played and never done that before

so

I feel like if vomps had teammates/btsc, they would tell him not to do most of the things he has done this game. I also feel, however, that most of his actions/posts have no logical civ explanation

I also still feel like SVS's uncharacteristic "big deal" was weird. If we knew which team Lorab had been on, that would probably make me feel more strongly about the whole shebang. I just don't know right now.

Scroll up and read Epig's post

d'aww rabbit, that's adorable

I dunno but dharmahelper and vompatti are two people who've been posting odd this game, at least.

Well, not odd for vompatti, but odd nonetheless

It could be worse, you could have voted to lynch a civ in your drug-addled state :P

*names goddamnit

I'm going to go eat supper now and stop fucking up all my posts

I didn't recognize just enough of the games that I thought it was just the infamous randomizer

DharmaHelper wrote:
Squizloid killing LoRab was unexpected, as I was expecting some Non-voter justice given the "To Be Continued" part that was in MP's post briefly. But LoRab voted, so the day kill doesn't have anything to do with nonvoters...

• Commander Squizloid – Ziltoid’s right hand man and second in command. He absorbs every night action that Ziltoid is targeted with until death. His most important role is commanding the army’s back-up fleets. (Secrets)

So I'm going to say it has something to do with his role secrets


linki - hahaha Rob we had no idea. Honestly, that's one of the funnier posting obligations I've heard

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Illyria wrote:Okay.. Trice I get you are running behind but why are there quote marks around that? It looks like you copied and pasted it from somewhere.. like a chat room.

According to Google it's a Pulp Fiction quote. You're quite hasty. :P

Thank you, I was worried for a second there.



Surely even I'm not dense enough to put quotation marks around something from a chat room, lol

BIH Bumbly Bea and RIPIYWG Lorab.

If I had been here sooner and not at work (hence my early vote before any good dirt was out), I would have said that I didn't really see the suspicion of rabbit simply because he's always an asshole, civ or baddie

"If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor." I should have gone to bed half and hour ago

LoRab wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:As somebody whose only real contributions to lynch discussion so far this game have been to defend SVS, I'm certainly going to take your word for that...

and yes, my macaronic sandwich was unsatisfactory

Just trying to understand your suspicion. no need to be rude. So sorry I've been busy.

I didn't mean to come off as rude, just as I'm sure you didn't

As somebody whose only real contributions to lynch discussion so far this game have been to defend SVS, I'm certainly going to take your word for that...

and yes, my macaronic sandwich was unsatisfactory

There are a whole bunch of reasons, I assume, with roles as varied & secretive as the ones this game, that an NK could have ended up on DFaraday, whether he was their target or not. If we assume he was the intended kill target, then you'd think SVS would be glad they - frankly - wasted their kill on somebody who has barely participated so far, instead of killing somebody who is actually here and posting. Therefore, the assumption is that she has some other reason to not want DFaraday dead, otherwise why write 3 paragraphs about it? Only a baddie would be upset by the baddies playing poorly.

Linki - Bea, I'm literally going to bed right now & like I said I'm not home in time for the poll's end. Look at what time it ends at today.

I'm not going to be home from work in time for the lynch tomorrow, so I have to vote now. Going to vote SVS because of the weird post about Faraday, and because I don't have much else. I was looking at Dharma but he hasn't posted anything since so I don't have additional material to go off. Sorry if you're good SVS, bih otherwise <3

birdwithteeth11 wrote:From what I can gather, Troofy doesn't understand why he got a vote from Epig/Robert, but I don't quite get the last part of it. A little help someone?

I think it's something about the fact that he's unable to defend himself. If somebody insane tries to make a case on somebody else insane, do they cancel out and make it ok, or is it still considered bad form? Even if I know somebody is bad (not yet this game, but it happens eventually), I like to hear their piddly attempts at self-defense, sometimes you get bonus teammates out of that or whatever.

linki - you're always indi Damo Suzuki to me

Oh, and RIPIYWG people

Is Rob insanified too, or just Truth?

MovingPictures07 wrote:The secret word has been spoken!

The challenge has ended. birdwithteeth11 has been given a prize!

Curses, I was just about to copy-paste an entire online dictionary

He's from Finland.


But he's also actually a spambot

hahaha wtf vomps

Hell, I'll vote 8 too since people seem to be leaning that way. I don't see any real reasons for voting one way or another, except that common sense dictates we not sit still while there are 3 teams of baddies hunting

DharmaHelper wrote:Nebula 8 because 4 8 15 16 23 42.


Also RIP Leech.

Are those supposed to be Lost numbers or something? I seem to remember that being a thing some of you people do.

sockhost, do we get to find out the secret part of Steve Reich's role? Or not until Endgame?

S~V~S wrote: Being Damo Suzuki in a game totally turned me on to Can

AS IT WELL SHOULD (stern smile)