The Syndicate

I enjoyed it. Great game to pick for my return to mafia

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Well, nijuukyugou is an animal so.. Well, nijuukyugou is apparently apparently apparently anijuukyugou is an animal so.. Well, nijuukyugou is anijuukyugou is an animal so.. Well, nijuukyugou is apparently apparently anijuukyugou is apparently apparently apparently an anijuukyugou is apparently animal so.. Well, nijuukyugou is an an animal so....... Well, nimal so.... Well, nijuukyugou is an apparently an apparently an an animal so.... Well, nimal so.. Well, nijuukyugou is anijuukyugou is an an an a

Oh

I don't

But, given that I don't know who is dead there still is a non-zero probability that enough of the right people are alive & that night kill actions could balance it. Reality could be different, I was just looking at the math of it.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Would the host tell us if all animals were dead?

bump

Dom wrote:
triceratopzeuhl wrote:uhhh huhhh

so vomps was responsible now for 3 out of the 4 actions which were opposing The Plan

Interestingly it's still possible, albeit distantly, for everybody except voopy (and any other gals that have died or die tonight) to win
how do you know

Two out of three night kills

getting himself lynched under the guise of being an animal

not hard

uhhh huhhh

so vomps was responsible now for 3 out of the 4 actions which were opposing The Plan

Interestingly it's still possible, albeit distantly, for everybody except voopy (and any other gals that have died or die tonight) to win

guess I'll vote voopy too

Well then he can still win no problem. Didn't llama say that only gals have to be alive to win?

Vompatti just said he is one, hard to tell how trustworthy of a marsupial he is though

Dom wrote:It doesn't look like INH's plan is going to work to his advantage.

He can still win if he is Fellas or Animals

Would the host tell us if all animals were dead? It's possible one of the two victims last night was an animal.

It's really difficult to tell whether the animals still have a fighting chance

bizarre

maybe we are actually playing mulholland drive mafia

wonder what tonight will bring

Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I'd like to end the pol a little early today, since there is a clear majority, to counteract "Host Post Creep." I'll probably try to close it out around an hour early, if nobody minds too much.
But what if there's a lynch switch?

I don't see any listed in the roles, though granted I have no idea what St Elmo's Fire is supposed to do

Any particular reason why?

Voting Matt as per The Plan (tm)

No clue what team MM89 was, but as I believe I mentioned earlier, self-voting suggests possibly animals because either of the other two teams benefits negatively from being lynched. But if he wasn't it might have just ruined animals win chances

I wish there were more good space movies

that's not typically very ambient imo

ambient 0: music for being dead to

ambient 52: music for eating soup

That's a relief... sorry for not trusting you Roxy but you have to admit you were fucking with us, hah

You also said you are a fella so you have lied at least once... how do we know which one?

I have to leave soon and I don't trust that rox is an animal so I'm throwing out my vote

the evil smiley doesn't really help

Roxy wrote:I can see that a killer on either team would take out a member of the opposing team making it much harder for that team to achieve a win on purpose just so only their team would/could win.

Only if they were a jerk imo

Roxy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
juliets wrote:splints, which team is the mafia?
OBVIOUSLY, anyone who disagrees with Fingersplints is a member of the secret police or the Gestapo, and must be lynched at any cost.
This just seems mean and petty.

Question to all Gals and Fellas -

What if - just read the following with an open mind -

What if when the animals are not outing themselves or there Iis none left willing to come forward and someone on the Fella Team NK's a Gal? Or you lynch a Gal? Then your plan will delve into a team effort type game to win - which is what I thought I had signed up for.

Yes, if that happens you are correct.

However, as far as I can tell by far the easiest way for animals to win is to make sure only animals die. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So anyway, any animals in the house? Roxy might be but she also said she is a fella so I'm not sold.

I forgot 3. You are a Gal and for some absurd reason you think lynching INH is necessary to ensure your own survival. In which case, as I said, you should EXPLAIN your reasoning.

Imagine if, say, a judicial process was based on vague feelings and suggestions

fingersplints wrote: Except I don't know who my teammates are, do I? or what team inh is on... So lynching inh just might complete my win condition, which I am not missing, thanks.

As far as I can tell there are two ways that could be:
1. You are Fellas and you think he is an Animal
2. You are Animals, you think either a Fella or a Gal has been or will be killed, and you think he is the other team (Gal or Fella)

So is it one of these? Or do you not have any reason to want to lynch him other than that he offended you or something?

And if you have reason to believe inh is on a particular team, why wouldn't you share it? "I don't trust his motives" isn't going to convince anybody else to help you lynch him.

Hell, the game is literally called OBLIQUE STRATEGIES. I think a lot of people completely miss the insinuations of that

i.e. that typical mafia tactics (arguing and trying to fabricate lynch cases on random people) will accomplish nothing

fingersplints wrote: sorry for missing the lynch poll. I would have voted inh for the confrontational tone in his last post to me:

What is the point of that, though? I think you are totally missing the win conditions. If him being confrontational makes you think he is on a particular team, and voting for that team would benefit you & help you achieve win conditions, fine, then explain it here, if that is even how you feel.

Voting due to perceived rudeness while ignoring win conditions entirely screams of pettiness and is probably a disservice to your teammates.

Mongoose wrote:
Dude, I totally thought I put Modest Mouse on there.

uh, you did

Art Bears
Battle of Mice
Birds and Buildings
Cannibal Ox
Giant Squid
Henry Cow
Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel
Les Claypool's Frog Brigade
Oysterhead
Red Sparowes
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Swans
Teeth of Lions Rule The Divine
Them Crooked Vultures
Tortoise
Vompatti
Wolves in the Throne Room
The Yardbirds

Well we certainly aren't lynching anybody right now

I want to believe you rox, but you are making it hard

i love sandwiches, brb

Roxy wrote: Yeah I am not going to play along I am not an Animal but a Fella so please just lynch me anyway.

Roxy wrote: I am actually an Animal and you may lynch me next. <3

Less than a day after you said you are a fella is not very convincing, especially since you also said you don't support the plan so I have to assume you intend to mess with it

Steady as she goes

Epignosis wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:I will vote SVS to keep the strategy going.

(Sorry my posts are so short and few - this is hell week at work and I should be good and more participatory after tomorrow night )
At least your PLC didn't decide to have a meeting...tomorrow morning at 7:45 am. On the day we have to stay until 8pm.

Your... programmable logic controller?

Fair point, my overgeneralization was more based on the fact that their win chance is improved when more of them are alive

and Rox, you still haven't explained what ulterior motives there could possibly be for INH. It is a game with win conditions. He is trying to win. What other motive would there be?

His strategy happens to support my team winning (regardless of whether he is on my team or not, as I have no clue) so I support it. I use measurable knowledge instead of vague feelings in my decision to support "the plan"

Roxy wrote:Even though we are not supposed to use our abilities at night someone did and has completely affected the way I felt about inh.

I do not want another Animal outed until the Fellas and Gals have all been outed first - seems like a fair request if you want others to play along.

I don't think it logically follows, though. Based on the win conditions, Fellas and Gals don't benefit from outing themselves. In fact, it's almost completely negative because:
1) they have to survive to win
2) on the off chance that a Fella or Gal dies, animals will want to balance the numbers and if they know what team you are, it makes you a target.

Whereas animals can win whether they are alive or dead, and the number of alive animals does not affect their win conditions.

The ONLY exception to the above is if animals refuse to out themselves, in which case we could determine who they are by process of elimination if the gals and fellas out themselves.

I believe my logic is sound.

I forgot to say earlier that I vote SVS, even if you don't support the plan it makes most sense to lynch people who will facilitate your own victory, ie people not on your team if you are fellas or gals

Roxy wrote:^^^ this
Plus I do not trust inh's motives.

What, pray tell, does pointing out an obvious game mechanic, one that stands up to scrutiny, have to do with motives? What motive do you think inh would have? To win? Because "the plan" does that, it makes him (and many other people) win.

I realize mafia is supposed to be a game about subterfuge and distrust but, well, frankly, some of you people seem to be distrusting just for the sake of it, with no real reason to.

Did SVS say she was an animal?

are metalmarshes' self-votes an admission that they are an animal, or just an admission that they are trying to ruin the game for the rest of us? I would assume that only people interested in winning would want to play mafia (if they are sane unlike voopy), so one would only put themselves up for death if they could still win. Reasonable assumptions?

vomps is at least 5 years overdue on psychiatric help

So the important question we are all forgetting about, here... Do we get to eat sockalex now?

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