The Syndicate

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think out of the 3 people I mentioned, the one that seems the most attractive to me is SVS]

I thought you had a girlfriend already

S~V~S wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:RIPIWG Trice and Kate. Why was Trice chosen, or possibly more important, who chose him?

Are you not interested in why Kate was chosen? Or do you already know?

No, but Trice's was a bit more odd.

Why?

probably because I'm handsome

Tanner he's not even dead, lmao

tbh I've never listened to Ziltoid the Omniscient, so I'm gonna assume you are telling me I have the wrong team

<3

"likes to cause chaos and confusion" anyone?

Looks to me like CBK either got a lynch protect prize from somewhere (Damo Suzuki's bag, maybe?), or she could be the Mysterious Voice

By which I mean,

Looks to me like Timmer either got a lynch protect prize from somewhere (Damo Suzuki's bag, maybe?), or he could be the Mysterious Voice

linki - weird

linki2 - yeah BWT why do you constantly feel the need to make things up this game? Does that help you in any way?

How many votes was LT at when the poll ended? Trying to do some math here. CBK had 6, DH had 4 (-2) IIRC, nobody else got more than 2

linki - svs the only thing I remember Illyria doing is not understanding what a movie quote is

anyway, I vote chaindeath for rez because none of the others posted or did anything even when they were alive

so yeah

birdwithteeth11 wrote:You have to be kidding me. I went to click 'submit' to vote, and the polling closed at that exact moment.

It doesn't mean much, but I would have gone with CBK/Timmer probably. I didn't feel quite as comfortable with Troofie and Boats as I did with him and FH. But I'm more willing to give FH the benefit of the doubt for now.

If you were clicking submit, wouldn't you have already picked your vote?

poll is closed now

inb4 Dharma says something about bandwagons

DP just voted for LT without posting, silenced maybe?

Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:Trice made the 2000th post in this thread...what a baddie move. I wish I realized the poll when late tonight and I could've voted Trice...
This logic is just as good as anyone elses!

There is a lot of good quality content going around today, don't disregard all of it because of some graphs

S~V~S wrote:I am not sure i believe it though, Trice~

I can wait to vote. I do think FH is bad, but i also think DH may be onto something.

insertnamehere wrote:I see the FH suspicion, but I definitely think that DH is stronger.

*votes DH*

How "No U" of you

Could be. Maybe it was an on purpose thing, which I guess she would deny since that would not reflect well on her; but as an accidental slip it wouldn't have any baddie connotations. Hrum

I don't entirely understand why BWT doesn't list me as suspicious, but lists The Truth as suspicious because he thinks we could be teammates. Huh?

Or are you trying to argue with me when I say I think you're civ? That's just silly

Flyin' High wrote:Also, I have not hinted at my role in any way this game.

It wasn't something that would have been on purpose

DharmaHelper wrote:@Trice if you think FH let slip which civvie role she is, requoting it so all the baddies know what you're talking about might not be the best course of action.

Good point.

S~V~S wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:@Trice if you think FH let slip which civvie role she is, requoting it so all the baddies know what you're talking about might not be the best course of action.

THIS^^

I saw it too, Trice. Not sure i believe it, though.

At least there is confirmation, so now you can believe me.

Because of that I guess I'm going to vote CBK

Look people, the 2 times I've said "us" or "we" or whatever this game, both of them I was referring to every single player in the game. That's all there is to it, but I understand that when you keep lynching civs it's hard for you to tell what's actually worth being suspicious of. Like maybe Dom arbitrarily trying to make cases that won't stick off semantics.

S~V~S wrote:I read Trice and reread him, and I have a role in mind for him, and I think he might be a civ, I won't be voting for him/. I wish he did not suspect me, but I kinda see why he might.

But regardless of who else may or maynot be bad, I still think FH probably is bad.

To be entirely fair, the role reveals from the book do force me to re-evaluate you at least to some degree. Yes, I agree with people saying this is your civ game, but like I explained early you (everybody) play(s) civ game as an indy. That's the only way you can win.

Kate wrote:

The Truth wrote:I'm going with my gut and guessing that the "resident" ordeal is reverse psychology. So I'm reversing the reverse psychology and voting for pluto.

11:25

triceratopzeuhl wrote:I'm going with my gut and guessing that the "resident" ordeal is reverse reverse psychology. So I'm reversing the reverse revere reverse psychology and voting for the sun.

11:28

Weird. Is three minutes enough to see that, think of a "witty" comeback and post?

It's almost like I'm smart or something. Not like I'm an electrical engineer or anything.

For the 3rd time, nobody is actually stupid enough to copy-paste things from a btsc chat room. Anybody who did that, would be doing 10000 other nooby mistakes and it would be obvious they are bad. You can even copy-paste that, if you want.

Now, if we look alll the way back at that Bea lynch, the one successful one we've had, there was an idea floating about that her teammates voted rabbit to save her. If we work on my personal belief that if the baddies were actually morons they'd be dead by now, I think maybe 1 person and no more on the team would have done that. I don't know whether that one person is CBK (or whoever replacement was) or FH. But I also think FH let slip her role, and it's a civ one. I will find the quote in a sec here.

The Truth wrote:Also, I'm not sure I ever got Rob's reasoning when he voted for me while I was insanified.

He was forced by the insanification to vote the person immediately above him when he posted

In regards to Damo Suzuki, my initial interpretation of his role definitely didn't involve a night kill. The impression I got was that giving people objects from the bag is supposed to be a good thing, and yet somebody just got killed by it. Like I said earlier, Damo might have had no control over it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, I cannot reset the poll, but I realize I accidentally left Roxy instead of putting Dom.

If you wish to vote for Dom, please vote Roxy.
If you wish to vote for timmer, please vote Captain Bunny Killer.

er yeah that was what I meant

reywaS wrote:
But that's not what he said or meant. He later clarified that he did, in fact, win the book prize from the poker tournament and that he won some other prize from the posting challenge. If he misspoke, I would think he would come back and say so. This seems very strange to me.

On re-read, you're right. And yet Alex claims otherwise. Would BWT have any motivation to lie about that, or was he just confused

Kate wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:HM

Books

Also I think BWT meant 3rd in the posting challenge, and mistyped. That way would actually make sense.

And for the record I believe there are benefits for us to be able to know what other civs are capable of as well. I mean, Damo Suzuki just killed a civvie last night. Their actions affect us this game too, not just those of the baddies.

Huh? Chain death? Was he confirmed somehow?

I keep mistyping things that make me look like an idiot, it should have said something like killed (as a civvie) last night.

Hey uh Sockface, should you change Roxy to read Timmer in the lynch poll?

Not benefits that outweigh the benefits of knowing baddie powers, but it's not a total loss. I do buy that she wasn't thinking about the colors. BWT said he made the connection that red=indy himself, so it can't have been explicitly explained with the doling of the prize

HM

Books

Also I think BWT meant 3rd in the posting challenge, and mistyped. That way would actually make sense.

And for the record I believe there are benefits for us to be able to know what other civs are capable of as well. I mean, Damo Suzuki just killed a civvie last night. Their actions affect us this game too, not just those of the baddies.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Wait, so suddenly my name has been dropped into the Venn-diagram madness? What the hell is up with that one?

I don't think anybody really knows

and given there are at least 2 mistakes found in FH's voter history so far, it's seeming pretty inaccurate to me

Yeah except all your "groups" are still based upon the "fact" that I voted for droopy, when I voted vompatti on day 3 and 4

Based on his role, I'm going to guess Damo didn't kill Chaindeath on purpose.

I should have quoted SVS I guess there. No linki popped up for me

Besides, you aren't supposed to talking about inside information (ie that your night power got redirected), otherwise I'd tell you that it seems to me Scott Walker didn't use his ability that night

S~V~S wrote:You never read the rest of the civvie roles like i asked you to did you Trice??????????????????????????????????

I know it becasue MY results got scrambled, you dolt. OTHER ROLES GOT SCRAMBLED. Not just the kill roles.

*Shakes head*

I give the fuck up, lol.

You sound frustrated, is it because 2/3 of your night kills haven't gone as planned?

*day 3

Now, SVS - I'm convinced she's Herman the Planet Smasher.

When I initial raised my suspicion of her, it was after she had wheeled on about how DFaraday (Herman's victim from night 1) was such a bad night kill target and there was really no reason to kill him.

S~V~S wrote:I can't think of one reason anyone would kill Faraday, I read all of his posts like 5 times, and I am at a loss. He wasn't even a low poster.

She also went right ahead and said there was no reason for Ziltoid's team to kill Devin the Omniscient, but made no deal about him at all compared to the big deal about DFaraday.

S~V~S wrote:TBH, I don't see a compelling reason to kill Devin either, but I don't know him well enough to gauge how threatening he may be to someone who DOES know him.

That being said, that was all there was to it. She seemed to dismiss it as "maybe random." I was also slightly thrown off at the time by Kate and Lorab apparently rushing to defend SVS. Now I think that makes sense. Technically we are seeing SVS' civ game; as an indy you have no teammates and I would argue it's more important to kill the baddies, since they have NKs. Hell, that's how she won progressive rock mafia on progarchives.com, as an indy. I think Kate and Lorab legitimately believed what they wrote back then about SVS not seeming bad to them, and also to some degree they were digging for civvie cred - I'm not necessarily saying they are bad, sometimes civs need civ credit too. But I digress.

So yeah, SVS says "fine it was a random kill maybe."
and then, what what what?

S~V~S wrote:Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one.

All of a sudden DFaraday got killed because Herman the Planet Smasher's target got switched, something that hadn't been brought up at all. I think SVS knows this happened because she is Herman, The Planet Smasher.


linki: DharmaHelper, if you're going to "present facts" can you at least adjust your charts so they show who I actually voted for on day 2?

But I'd rather make my case on SVS before she NKs me, so I'll save that for later if I survive long enough.

Well, if you read back my initial response was "a bit of a leap is an understatement." Basically all it says is that trying to avoid host punishment - I think INH said he wasn't sure if he'd be around later - is worth writing 3 paragraphs about. Anecdotal evidence will help me appeal to my constituents, right??

But moreso then that, it was really the last post you made presenting "new" "material" in an attempt to justify voting for INH so much

DharmaHelper wrote:I'll wait to ask Trice what s/he is on about RE: Me :P

this one (hopes links to posts work properly on this site)

"you" as in Dom there

triceratopzeuhl wrote:
I don't understand why a couple people think anybody would be stupid enough to copy-paste quotes from a btsc chatroom

...I realise now you weren't yet playing at the time, but what I'm referring to is Illyria thinking that a quote from Pulp Fiction was a baddie slip up

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Hey rabbit, I heard your "bank" might need a bailout.

Just wanted to say this as I catch up:

Excuse me, DH? For someone so suspicious of all aggressive people, you are pretty freaking aggressive. This post just struck me as od. Not only is it pretty aggressive, but it's kind of the type of thing a baddie might do to try and get everyone to trust them; say I told you so!

Yeah, I've been a bit cheesed at DH since his post on like day 1 where he wrote an entire page about no real suspicion at all. Never followed up on it because I thought there was a higher priority lynch in vompatti, but that turned out considerably less than ideal.

Dom wrote: I find your response far more strange than the original offense
Not that strange but still...

(caught up now holy shit)
But why so dismissive? "That has no reason behind it"
You copy pasted it? From a chat room? I dunno.... just seems ood to me.

DH seems ood 2

No, from the post immediately above mine. It was an attempt at a joke. Nobody else commented on it because it was pretty obviously a joke.

I don't understand why a couple people think anybody would be stupid enough to copy-paste quotes from a btsc chatroom

Kate wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why the red and blue secrets were revealed but not the purple...

I would guess for game balance. The purple team already has more details on the roles, it seems to me, then the red and blue teams. The Residents (relatively speaking) said nothing at all about what any of them could do, initially.


The cases on CBK and DH don't sound outrageous right now. I don't think DH's answers to posts about him are doing him any good. We will see, still a while to go until we need to actually worry about a lynch

@Flying High I don't know where you gathered those vote results from, but I voted vompatti on day 3.

rabbit8 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:He doesn't have INH in his voting charts? Hard to rread them on phone.

Well, now I am curious too lol. He has been wanting to lynch INH for days, I just assumed that was the point of all this~

Linki@ Rabbit, I said WE as in lynch, lol~ nice try

You did say we, thats true. But you said nothign about a lynch. And we could refer to your team IMO. Baddie slip SVS?

This one doesn't sound like a slip. The last one did.


Soon to come will be a post on a few things I think about this game/the baddies, if only so it's out there if they try to NK me tonight or whatever.

Dom wrote: Now, here's something from Day 0 that I'm shocked that no one caught:

The Truth wrote:I'm going with my gut and guessing that the "resident" ordeal is reverse psychology. So I'm reversing the reverse psychology and voting for pluto.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:I'm going with my gut and guessing that the "resident" ordeal is reverse reverse psychology. So I'm reversing the reverse revere reverse psychology and voting for the sun.

These two posts were consecutive. I don't know either of these players off the top of my head unless they went by other usernames. If they're new, I suspect it's possible that they were talking about it in chat and this was the result. I just find it awfully strange. Unless they were replying to each other?
I don't know it jsut felt wrong.

Probably because I copy-pasted his post and changed it to match my own vote. Day 0 votes never have any reason behind them, least of all when we have no real context like in this game

Vomps also made no effort even a single time to defend himself against accusations

Because when you are a baddie you'd rather pick up somebody's incorrect theory then be honest and have to out teammates

theoretically speaking, of course

And for clarification, by "bully" I meant something more along the lines of "needle" or "browbeat," it didn't even occur to me it could be misinterpreted like that so I apologize

I voted vomps yesterday and have had every intention of following up on that, so whatever else is on my mind can wait a day

S~V~S wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

S~V~S wrote:
Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.

Well now, hold on. After night one you made a big deal about how DFaraday was a bad target to NK, which is why I and maybe a couple other people were looking at you, but now you've entirely changed your position to that it was redirected. Baddie slip up, or just taking your own theories too seriously?

LOL, I said that this was why i said that.

You have been trying WAAAAAAAYYYY too hard to paint me bad. As i recall you were looking at me, and a few people that understood what I was getting at and backed off.

No

More like, there is reason at all to believe that NK was redirected unless it was your NK

I assume you meant to say "More like, there is NO reason at all to believe that NK was redirected unless it was your NK"

Well, perhaps there were other powers besides kills that did not go as expected night one? Perhaps that might make someone think, along with the very unexpected NK target, that some targets may have been switched? I never changed my position~ as soon as people started saying this line of discussion was suspicious, I clarified my intent, and everyone but you dropped it. Forcing people to spell things out is not the civviest action, Trice.

Unfortunately, i have a tendency to do that myself, lol. A few times this game i have been mid post, writing something like, "Well why do you think that, don't you think there would have been a subtle ***** in the thread if ***** and..." and then realized that what I was actually replying to WAS a sublte ****, lol, and scrapped the post. So I am the last to suspect you for continually pushing this point. But do me a favor, read the roles, and see allllll the non baddie ways someone might know things may have been rotten in Denmark on Night One, OK?

It doesn't matter how many ways there are for things to be redirected in your opinion, the fact of the matter is there was no indication it got redirected. I understand that when a handful of newer mafia players call you out on it, you can bully them to drop it and get your teammates to call it "civ svs," but I still don't think you actually have a bridge for sale

The only basis for anybody thinking Droops and Vomps were teammates is that they seemed to be trying to save Bea by lynching Rabbit. One of them not doing it doesn't mean the other wasn't.

More importantly, maybe just look at how vompatti has been posting the entire game