Do we know what happens when someone is enthralled for sure though?juliets wrote:Golden how do we know that A Person wasn't enthralled. I didn't see a vote from him either. Did I miss it?
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- Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:16 pm
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- Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:13 pm
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rabbit8 wrote:S~V~S wrote:Dom knows how I feel about distancing.
Feelings can change ..........
Linki
- Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:11 pm
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I'm starting to wish I hadn't voted for Zomba now. If this is your line of thinking, maybe I should have voted you instead.S~V~S wrote:Not always, no.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Does vomps play the same even if he is bad?
I think my vote is going there, too. I will be out when the poll ends, and don't want to miss the vote.
- Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:24 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
After reading and absorbing Zomba's posts from last night, her responses do not make me feel any better about her. To me, it feels like she just went and made a big case about the person she claims is the biggest proponent to get her lynched: SVS. And the only reason I could find is that she thinks it's because SVS wants whatever item(s) she has. And then when that didn't stick, she went to voting for low posters.
Also, thanks for still thinking I don't read the thread btw. I may not post a ton, but I make sure I read everything in any game I'm playing and think on it. If you equate low posting with not reading the thread though, that's your own fault.
Anyway, now that Zomba has had the chance to respond, and given how I feel about her response, I will go ahead and vote for her. I just think the evidence weighs too heavily on her. Her lynch should be fairly illuminating for where to go next IMO.
Votes Zomba
Linki: Sorry, LC. I've been so absorbed in Zomba and Lizkeen to a lesser extent that I haven't taken the time yet to look at Epig. Plus, with where my head is right now, I think a Zomba lynch is going to help me out more for where to look next. I do think him knowing the history between BR and MM NKing each other is intriguing though. I will read more into it in the coming days.
Also, thanks for still thinking I don't read the thread btw. I may not post a ton, but I make sure I read everything in any game I'm playing and think on it. If you equate low posting with not reading the thread though, that's your own fault.
Anyway, now that Zomba has had the chance to respond, and given how I feel about her response, I will go ahead and vote for her. I just think the evidence weighs too heavily on her. Her lynch should be fairly illuminating for where to go next IMO.
Votes Zomba
Linki: Sorry, LC. I've been so absorbed in Zomba and Lizkeen to a lesser extent that I haven't taken the time yet to look at Epig. Plus, with where my head is right now, I think a Zomba lynch is going to help me out more for where to look next. I do think him knowing the history between BR and MM NKing each other is intriguing though. I will read more into it in the coming days.
- Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:17 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
Here you go, Zomba. If you want to vote for people who aren't reading the thread like myself obviously, then you might as well vote here in every game!Vompatti wrote:I didn't know he was silenced because I didn't read the thread. I only voted for him because I had a feeling MM had hard evidence that he's bad.fingersplints wrote:Did Vomps give a reason for his TH vote? I'm used to Vomps being kind of out there as a player, but I'm just a little surprised he would vote a silenced player without giving a reason. (Unless I missed the vote. There has been a lot going on)
- Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:15 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
I am here, it's been a busy week. And today is Early Release, which means I won't be back on here for the rest of the day.DFaraday wrote:As a civvie you dont have to think in "what looks good", you have to say what you think and claim whatever you think even if it goes against whatever the rest of the thread thinks.Sophie wrote:LizKeen wrote:[quote="Zombarella"]BTW - You are the only other person I've met who watches the Black List. It really is a great show. I covet Liz's hair.I covet Tom Keen. I used to think he was nerdy but now that he's a bad boy he's kinda hot. I don't know anyone who watches it but you two.Golden wrote:I watch the blacklist
SVS, you must be getting up as I go to bed.
I'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place here. If I don't vote Zombarella and she gets lynched and flips bad then I'm going to be accused of being her teammate. If I vote her and she flips civvie then I'm helping lynch another civvie. This really sucks.
If they wanna lynch you for it, its they loss, they would lynch a civvie. But maybe your thoughts would be revisited later and they could help the civvies.
At least thats how i play when im civ. Thats why im usually a suspicion every game, and thats why y always tend to survive till the late stages of the game, cause the baddies know they can bring me up for suspicion.
The ONLY times i care about "how things look" and try to really appear civvie, is when im bad. As a baddie i try to be consistent and not to say things "out of tune".
I think the best thing to do for civvies is speak their mind even if they get super suspected because of it
Btw, where is daniel faraday??
It seems like everything right now is based on behind the scenes shenanigans, assumptions, and taking the word of people, so it's hard to pin anything down. I think Zomba is the most likely to illuminate us though, so I will *vote Zombarella* and if she comes back as a baddie, as I suspect, that will make things clearer.[/quote]
If she comes back a civ though, does that also illuminate things for you or not?
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:51 pm
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Then eventually, we (hopefully) vote to get him lynched if he isn't contributing anything to the game. I'm not interested in that right now because I think we may have found a sure catch.Epignosis wrote:f AP dsnt pst, thn hw ds smbd fgr whtr AP s bd r gd?birdwithteeth11 wrote:That's the thing about A Person though. From what I always remember, he's one of the most non-active mafia players I've ever seen. And that's the same regardless of it he is good or bad.Golden wrote:Funny. My recollection of dom is quiet dom, dom you forget is playing. If I had to say my perception of him in this game, it's that he is less blendy and more talkative than usual. I haven't forgotten he is playing.
A Person, though...
Not saying he is one or the other, but that his lack of posting isn't enough for me to determine which one it is.
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:40 pm
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That's the thing about A Person though. From what I always remember, he's one of the most non-active mafia players I've ever seen. And that's the same regardless of it he is good or bad.Golden wrote:Funny. My recollection of dom is quiet dom, dom you forget is playing. If I had to say my perception of him in this game, it's that he is less blendy and more talkative than usual. I haven't forgotten he is playing.
A Person, though...
Not saying he is one or the other, but that his lack of posting isn't enough for me to determine which one it is.
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:27 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
Alright then. Then that tells me the kill didn't fail due to someone missing a vote.thellama73 wrote:Only if you miss four. Then your P-Score is affected.birdwithteeth11 wrote: @llama: Are there penalties for missing a lynch vote?
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:18 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
How do missed votes come into play? I can only think of one way...Epignosis wrote:Zmb & LzKn bth mssd vt.
@llama: Are there penalties for missing a lynch vote?
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:13 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
Sure! I'll give it a shot.Dom wrote:I'm sort of following this theory-- but can someone spell it out for me? I've had a rough day and am having a hard time tbh.Golden wrote:You know what, I buy it's Zombs completely at this point.
I think SVS is right... that she was the nightkill target and that the post in the newspaper was created by the baddies. Here is the thing... if SVS had died, we would all know the baddies had the will, and that post in the newspaper could look simply like the host reporting the news. But it's not the news. SVS still has the will.
So, why would the baddies write it? To effectively role claim Zombs as a civilian. AND make it look like it was llama saying it, so that we would buy it in its entirity. But since it isn't true that the beast has the will, I don't buy that any part of the message was genuine.
Basically, I think the baddies had planned to kill SVS. With her being dead, the talk about the will in the night post would have seemed like Zomba was claiming to be a civ. However, their kill did not work, and I'm guessing it has to do with the silver Buddha that SVS had. Since she said it apparently lost it's silvery sheen or something along those lines.
However, with her still being alive, I think the talk of the will in the night post pretty much incriminates Zomba. I'm half-tempted to vote for her now, but I want to wait and see what Zomba has to say about it before I make a final decision.
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:38 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 3]
Her reaction to what BF said when he stated what was in the will. Nothing she has said since then has made me feel any better about her. And then with this other will thing from last night, I feel even worse about her now.juliets wrote:BWT what makes you so sure about Zomba?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Yay no death! I'm awfully curious as to who ended up getting silenced for today. I think potentially who it is will say a lot.
I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.
Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:18 pm
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Yay no death! I'm awfully curious as to who ended up getting silenced for today. I think potentially who it is will say a lot.
I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.
Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.
I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.
Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.
- Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:04 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 2]
I voted Michigan Avenue because of Matt's pun.
It also slightly makes me want to lynch him every game.
I think it's more that Matt is so quiet and hardly ever posts (either on-topic or off-topic). Which always makes him nearly impossible to read for me.rabbit8 wrote:Oh, that's nice, Matt.A Person wrote:I'm Matt, and I have voted in all but one poll so I think I have been playing most game.rabbit8 wrote:A Person wrote:Michagain
Who are you? Have you been playing all game?
Does voting in polls satisfy some odd urge you have?
It also slightly makes me want to lynch him every game.
- Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:21 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 2]
I'm interested as well, Epig.
And Zomba, pretty sure I've already mentioned why I found you suspicious. But if you can't find it, let me know and I'll either go find why or let you know.
And Zomba, pretty sure I've already mentioned why I found you suspicious. But if you can't find it, let me know and I'll either go find why or let you know.
- Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:44 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 2]
rabbit8 wrote:Is this because I suspected you at first or because of that comment I made? Why are you and Rabbit so sure I'm bad? Am I just an easy target at this point?Zombarella wrote: Lots of linki
So easy MM was lynched.
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Pretty much this. His lynch reveal sealed the deal for me. And put you on the top of my suspects list.
- Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:21 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 2]
Exactly! Not very fair to her is it.Golden wrote:Yeah, how will sophie ever catch up!Sophie wrote:sorry for all the offtopicism
Given how the vote went down and everything that happened, I probably still would have voted Zomba had I been able to vote. The poll ending time is really awkward for me (and the new one for tonight still is), so I'll try not to. Although if it doesn't change, in some cases I might have to vote well over 24 hours before some lynches end. We will see though.
Currently though, I am still looking at Zomba. I am also feeling much, MUCH less good about both TH and Epig. I think there's a good chance they played their cards right to get BF lynched and set up MM for the following lynch. Not really sure if the Mussorgsky thing means anything yet, but if it does, that's one of the best pieces of WIFOM I've ever seen anyone play.
Lots of linki
- Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:51 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 2]
RIP MM!
Sorry I missed the vote everyone! This is the first time I've had a chance to check the thread in well over 24 hours, and I have about 10 pages to catch up on. So bear with me. I'm hoping to get all caught up tonight but we will see. May not happen until tomorrow though.
Sorry I missed the vote everyone! This is the first time I've had a chance to check the thread in well over 24 hours, and I have about 10 pages to catch up on. So bear with me. I'm hoping to get all caught up tonight but we will see. May not happen until tomorrow though.
- Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:27 am
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
Alright then.Dom wrote:birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Honestly, if I were Reed, I'd be trying to gather just enough suspicion that I'm getting one or two people voting for me every day. But then again, I'm not Reed so idk if that's the strategy he/she is using.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:57 pm
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There's one way to test this out.Epignosis wrote:I'm drinking bourbon right now too. I bet birdwithteeth and I are evil together. Anyone?
I'm sipping away on this right now. If it's the same as Epig, then clearly we are both bad.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:29 pm
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Sorry. I'd post something more substantive right now, but I've had a little bit too much bourbon right now. So those kinds of thoughts will have to wait until tomorrow.
I know I've had a touch too much because I had to go through this entire thing 4 times to fix all the awful spelling errors.
I know I've had a touch too much because I had to go through this entire thing 4 times to fix all the awful spelling errors.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:27 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
Okay then.Metalmarsh89 wrote:So why won't these fuckers come out and say it?rabbit8 wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Could someone explain to me what in the world is going on right now. This marmot's brain can't handle all this wink wink nudge nudge.
People think you're bad.
Right now, if I had to vote, it would be for you.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:34 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
I think it's a really risky gambit. Especially if multiple baddies are doing it, then it could potentially allow them to be picked off for all following the same strategy.Elohcin wrote: Day 1 self voters...
MP voted 4th, Vomp voted 5th, and MM voted 6th. The question is, would a baddie Reed Bardeen be bold enough to be the first self voter? Also, would Mafia be bold enough to have two (or even three) of their own vote for themselves as to confuse us on who Bardeen is? What do you think about this?
Honestly, if I were Reed, I'd be trying to gather just enough suspicion that I'm getting one or two people voting for me every day. But then again, I'm not Reed so idk if that's the strategy he/she is using.
But to your main point, no, I don't really see that happening. At least not this early on in the game.
Linki
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:25 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
Hmmmm...good point. Thanks, Epig!
Bye Shep, and welcome DP!
Bye Shep, and welcome DP!
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:14 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
Why not? Unless you don't think LC and MM are potential teammates, I can't think of a good reason to not consider voting for one of them.Epignosis wrote:I'm not planning on voting for you anyway. There's a rather obvious reason why.Long Con wrote:Absolutely, if the roles had ended up with MM as the Millionaire and myself as his teammate... but that is not the case here.Epignosis wrote:You were Judge Doom in Roger Rabbit. I looked up Film Directors to see how you voted when you were good. You voted A Person for self-voting. What I'm driving at is this: The past few games, good or bad, you've preached on holding people responsible for how their consistencies. I thought about this, and wondered if the "standard operating procedure" bug has bit you. Good or bad, you've voted self-voters- that has become YOUR thing.Long Con wrote:Fine, because you said 'please', and in the interest of finding out where he's going: I have voted for metalmarsh before for repeatedly self-voting. Epig knows this already because it happened in the game he hosted. In that game, I posted my opinion about the repeated self-voting practice, quoting from the Film Director's game which was, I believe, my original statement on the subject on The Syndicate. The basis of this opinion was formed long ago on Lostpedia, when a player there self-voted every time on Day One.Golden wrote:I want you to play epi's mindgame, please...Long Con wrote:He wants me to play Epig's mindgame first.
I shouldn't have to be the only one whose played.
Here is something for you, though, LC. I said, on day one, that we should be very wary of voting for self-voters, because they might be the millionaire and fishing for votes to make them more powerful. Why didn't you take that into account?
Epig knows all this already, and lied about not recalling me doing it before. I don't know what his angle is, or why he'd lie about it, but the fact that he lied about it makes me wary of responding the way he obviously wants me to.
I didn't take that into account, Golden, when I voted. It's a fine theory, but it didn't cross my mind during the time I voted. Perhaps we should all pile on the votes to the lynch leader as a general rule in order to minimize the Millionaire's advantage.
Here, there's an incentive to get votes on one player. If Metalmarsh was that player, and you were a teammate, that's a brilliant opportunity, is it not?
You make a good point though, in a more general sense. It's not fair for me to keep voting for self-voters. I see it as a pro-Civvie thing to do, and so I do it when I'm a Civvie for the right reasons, and when I'm not - as Judge Doom, I did it because I wanted to be playing my Civvie game. But, I see now that it actually makes me no better than the chronic self-voters themselves... well, maybe a little better, because their self-voting never helps the Civvies, while my crusade does have potential to help a lot.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:55 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
Gender fix'd for you. :Prabbit8 wrote:Turnip Head wrote:I am not making a connection to your reasons for self-voting in other games so I don't know what you're talking about. I am only concerned with your self-voting here. And here your self-vote here felt reactionary and opportunistic.
I thought the impulsive remark was a weird way to word a response about it. Considering Goldens vote for me was the same thing. Though Goldens was out of frustration. And MM was claiming he had voted in RR the same way and that he was not going to self vote and not vote for MP.
But otherwise, yeah. Pretty much this. MM is quickly launching himself to the top of my suspects list.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:25 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
To make us think you were on that team, instead of potentially being MM's teammate.Long Con wrote:me going over the Celestial stuff was a result of me getting my Ivory Arrow stolen. And why would I try to roleclaim a role on a BTSC team that I'm not on?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Very interesting, TH. I will think on this some.Turnip Head wrote:I think MM is the Millionaire, and I think Con is in on it.
MM's self vote feels opportunistic, coming on the heels of two other self-votes, a full 48 hours before lynch deadline. He didn't show up in the thread at all until I called him out, 48 hours after the game had started. After his self-vote, he continued posting, but not with much frequency. And then he suddenly became outspoken during the Night phase. Something's rotten in the state of Marsh.
Despite the fact that LC was suspicious of BF, he voted for MM well after it was clear the lynch was heading BF's direction, which makes it seem disingenuous to me. In that scenario, LC should have voted for a player he was suspicious of with the most votes, due to the presence of the Millionaire, meaning he should have voted BF if he was legitimately suspicious of him.
So you're speculating about Celestial business, while casually implying that you could be a Celestial by your item choice. Seems legit.Long Con wrote:Also, have fun with the Ivory Arrow, Ichabod. I hope it is one of the five Treasures of the Orient. I think it's more likely that Ichabod took the Arrow because it sounds like it could be one of the Treasures. If Tim Waldo is the one who stole it, well, dumb move pal, because it really doesn't do anything.
So the Blond Beast of Bremen is now in possession of Black Rock's Two-Headed Elephant charm. I don't know if they did that to screw with the Celestials, or what... I think the Five Treasures are probably the Green Jade Hand, the Silver Buddha, the Two-Headed Elephant charm, the Ivory Arrow, and the Ivory Ball. Maybe the Silver Coin or the Amber Necklace.
Llama, do the Celestials know the five items they're looking for? Interesting if they do, because perhaps they would have gone for those items in the first poll.
From what I have read about HSKeeler, he likes to make seemingly important things be useless, while seemingly unimportant things are actually of utmost importance. So maybe the five Treasures are
the Clock, the Handkerchief, the Juju Berries, the Bottle, and the Nothing.
Him going over the Celestial stuff reads more to me like someone trying to deflect attention in the thread to another topic. Assuming the rest of what you are saying is true.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:09 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
Oh god. Those photos are really good. Some of them are downright hysterical!
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:54 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
I'm starting to develop a new theory on people who bring up previous mafia games. I think doing so to prove a point is moot. People can change their playing style and adapt from game to game. What a person does in one game has, IMO, little to no effect on how they play future games.Metalmarsh89 wrote:No you didn't, but that was the last game before Roger Rabbit.Turnip Head wrote:I said absolutely nothing about Death Note?
But since you are making a connection between my self-vote here and ones from previous games (Roger Rabbit and Film Director), let me ask you this. What do you think about my self-votes from those games, the reasoning behind them, and why do you think this one is indicative of a baddie in comparison/contrast to those? Here are the reasons listed below.
Here is my reason for self-voting in Roger Rabbit. I was a civilian in this game.
Here is my reason for self-voting in Film Director. I was a baddie in that game.
In other words, I don't think you self-voting in 2 different games tells us much about your alignment in this game. So why bring up Death Note at all?
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:51 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
Very interesting, TH. I will think on this some.Turnip Head wrote:I think MM is the Millionaire, and I think Con is in on it.
MM's self vote feels opportunistic, coming on the heels of two other self-votes, a full 48 hours before lynch deadline. He didn't show up in the thread at all until I called him out, 48 hours after the game had started. After his self-vote, he continued posting, but not with much frequency. And then he suddenly became outspoken during the Night phase. Something's rotten in the state of Marsh.
Despite the fact that LC was suspicious of BF, he voted for MM well after it was clear the lynch was heading BF's direction, which makes it seem disingenuous to me. In that scenario, LC should have voted for a player he was suspicious of with the most votes, due to the presence of the Millionaire, meaning he should have voted BF if he was legitimately suspicious of him.
So you're speculating about Celestial business, while casually implying that you could be a Celestial by your item choice. Seems legit.Long Con wrote:Also, have fun with the Ivory Arrow, Ichabod. I hope it is one of the five Treasures of the Orient. I think it's more likely that Ichabod took the Arrow because it sounds like it could be one of the Treasures. If Tim Waldo is the one who stole it, well, dumb move pal, because it really doesn't do anything.
So the Blond Beast of Bremen is now in possession of Black Rock's Two-Headed Elephant charm. I don't know if they did that to screw with the Celestials, or what... I think the Five Treasures are probably the Green Jade Hand, the Silver Buddha, the Two-Headed Elephant charm, the Ivory Arrow, and the Ivory Ball. Maybe the Silver Coin or the Amber Necklace.
Llama, do the Celestials know the five items they're looking for? Interesting if they do, because perhaps they would have gone for those items in the first poll.
From what I have read about HSKeeler, he likes to make seemingly important things be useless, while seemingly unimportant things are actually of utmost importance. So maybe the five Treasures are
the Clock, the Handkerchief, the Juju Berries, the Bottle, and the Nothing.
Him going over the Celestial stuff reads more to me like someone trying to deflect attention in the thread to another topic. Assuming the rest of what you are saying is true.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:48 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]
This is where I am right now as well.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It was a joke. I don't plan on jumping the gun today.S~V~S wrote:RIP BR
What is that bit about AP stealing a skull?
And I guess no one is much worried about the will, since no one stole it from me last night.
Who?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I know who I'm voting for today and it's not Metalmarsh89.
But if I were to vote right now, it would be Zomba.
Also, ignore my last post. I'm posting as I catch up so I didn't notice her post further down the page that clarified where she was coming from.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:44 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
I didn't have time to read the thread when I was on vacation. I have time to read the thread now. There's a really big difference there.Zombarella wrote:birdwithteeth11 wrote:Do I get an answer to my question, Zomba?
Linki - Thank you SVS. I didn't realize that I was coming across as overly aggressive. Any yes, I am actually a fairly forgetful player. Sorry about the avatar thing. I'll leave it for now.
BWT - If you will kindly remember, I mentioned earlier (and LC quoted and then I requoted) that I want to pursue a strategy of looking at people who appear to not be reading the thread. This makes sense to me because as a baddie in Roger Rabbit I knew who all the civies and baddies were so I didn't need to read carefully in order to figure it out who was who. I'm not saying that you didn't read and I'm not saying that you're not busy. I'm just saying that I'm not convinced. One reason is that you said you didn't have time to read (MM already posted this). You don't have to convince me if you don't want - but .... I'm just sayin....
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:10 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
Do I get an answer to my question, Zomba?
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:16 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
After the BF lynch, I'll admit that I'm not really sure where I'm currently looking. I was thinking SVS, but her recent explanations have me feeling a bit more comfortable for now. I'm still not sure why she'd put a target on her back to go after that will though.
I'm also eager to hear back from Zomba about why she doesn't think I'm reading the thread. If it's due to me not posting much, then I'd get used to it. That's more of my style. Especially this early in the game.
I'm also eager to hear back from Zomba about why she doesn't think I'm reading the thread. If it's due to me not posting much, then I'd get used to it. That's more of my style. Especially this early in the game.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:04 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
Thanks, Captain Obvious!Metalmarsh89 wrote:This! You said so yourself BWT!birdwithteeth11 wrote:Clark St. rather. I can't read today.
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:23 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
What makes you think that?Zombarella wrote:
on BWT - not convinced that he is reading the thread.
- Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:28 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
Clark St. rather. I can't read today.
- Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:28 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]
Well so much for that. RIP BF!
I don't really know anything about any of the streets, but I'm voting for Clark Ave. to give it some love.
I don't really know anything about any of the streets, but I'm voting for Clark Ave. to give it some love.
- Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:38 am
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 1]
Alright. I think I've fairly well decided on where my vote is going. After Mongoose's explanation for some of her posts, I'm backing off there. Not to mention she's been replaced by Sophie (Welcome, Sophie! ), so I couldn't vote that way if I wanted to.
BF claimed he had info, opened up a hornet's nest with the responses to such a statement, and chose not to reveal that info at the time. He's jumped through I believe half a dozen players as people he is suspicious of and could consider voting for, but didn't vote any of them at that time. So here's how I see it.
I think BF was going to mention the name in the will. He saw the backlash from the thread, and changed his mind on it, holding on to the name instead. He knew he had a huge target painted on his back, so he went after someone, anyone, who could take attention off of him. When that didn't work, he went ahead and dropped the name of the person he claims is on the will.
I'm sorry, but if you had instead gone really hard after the person who is mentioned in the will (without mentioning to us the will aspect), I wouldn't be voting for you today. Because the only way I can see you having decided to mention the will and put a huge target on your back is if you aren't worried about being NKed.
Votes BF
Linki: Lol clever one, Dom.
BF claimed he had info, opened up a hornet's nest with the responses to such a statement, and chose not to reveal that info at the time. He's jumped through I believe half a dozen players as people he is suspicious of and could consider voting for, but didn't vote any of them at that time. So here's how I see it.
I think BF was going to mention the name in the will. He saw the backlash from the thread, and changed his mind on it, holding on to the name instead. He knew he had a huge target painted on his back, so he went after someone, anyone, who could take attention off of him. When that didn't work, he went ahead and dropped the name of the person he claims is on the will.
I'm sorry, but if you had instead gone really hard after the person who is mentioned in the will (without mentioning to us the will aspect), I wouldn't be voting for you today. Because the only way I can see you having decided to mention the will and put a huge target on your back is if you aren't worried about being NKed.
Votes BF
Linki: Lol clever one, Dom.
- Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:23 am
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 1]
Are you saying that you think BF throwing Zomba's name out there gives either of them cred if the other is lynched?S~V~S wrote:What would be interesting is if she really was the Millionaire. Then by mentioning her name, BF would be getting her votes, but her lynch is far from a done deal. He did not mention her name until he had several votes. So if she is that role, BF would actually be helping her get some votes, which her role could use if she is not lynched. And if she was lynched, he would get tons of cred.
When life hands you lemons, make lemonade, right?
- Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:56 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 1]
Zomba, I spent all day yesterday on planes and sitting in airports, and had to deal with the 3-hour time change of coming from the western to eastern part of the U.S. I was tired and not in the mood for mafia last night. So when I posted right after SVS was asking where I was, it was pure coincidence that I logged into the site and started to get into the game.
I had posted way back near the beginning of Day 0 that I was on vacation and would not be active until I returned home. So if you want to read into that more, that's your decision.
Linki
I had posted way back near the beginning of Day 0 that I was on vacation and would not be active until I returned home. So if you want to read into that more, that's your decision.
Linki
- Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:52 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 1]
#endthreadthellama73 wrote:MP, you are a LegEnd.
- Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:38 pm
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 1]
Alright. I'm all caught up. And I'm glad I'm about to go watch a ton of basketball. Because I think I need a mental break after all of that.
Here are some of my current thoughts though:
BF - Might get my vote. He handled the supposed "info" thing with the will poorly, put a huge target on his back, and seems willing to try to get almost anyone lynched. But hasn't been willing to throw a vote on any of the five or six (I forget how many now) people he has placed suspicion on.
Golden - I have no freaking clue. I always thought Golden was an oddity in terms of being able to read him. The only thing I have so far is that while BF and he have defended/supported/whatever-word-you-want-to-use each other, he's at least self-aware of how it could come back to bite him if BF ends up flipping bad.
Epig - Not seeing anything different or out of the ordinary from him yet. No read.
MP - Freaked out and flipped his lid on BR's (IMO) slight suspicion/catch on Day 0. He's definitely stressed out and emotionally drained right now though, so his reaction doesn't surprise me. I still hope you just take a few breathers and continue to play though, dude!
BR - Went after an idea of something slight that caught her attention on Day 0. And that does stick out a bit to me, as I'm also someone who is usually a bit lost for the first 3-4 days of each game I play. But again, it's only a Day 0 observation. So I don't put much stock into it. Plus MP's more rational responses seemed genuine to me.
Bullz - One of the first two people BF brought up after talking about his will thingy. His responses read genuine to me.
TH - The other person along with Bullz that BF brought up with the will thingy. To me, it feels like lately, looking at TH has fallen completely off the tracks. Not sure if it's from BF jumping around to several other people or something else.
Mongoose - Dark horse candidate currently for my vote. I always get nervous when she makes lots of jokey/off-topic posts, but especially so when she posts a lot without really posting much. And she's definitely doing the second one this game.
This post sticks out to me a lot though:
There's also this... (note the bolded part):
I will be back later either this afternoon or evening.
Here are some of my current thoughts though:
BF - Might get my vote. He handled the supposed "info" thing with the will poorly, put a huge target on his back, and seems willing to try to get almost anyone lynched. But hasn't been willing to throw a vote on any of the five or six (I forget how many now) people he has placed suspicion on.
Golden - I have no freaking clue. I always thought Golden was an oddity in terms of being able to read him. The only thing I have so far is that while BF and he have defended/supported/whatever-word-you-want-to-use each other, he's at least self-aware of how it could come back to bite him if BF ends up flipping bad.
Epig - Not seeing anything different or out of the ordinary from him yet. No read.
MP - Freaked out and flipped his lid on BR's (IMO) slight suspicion/catch on Day 0. He's definitely stressed out and emotionally drained right now though, so his reaction doesn't surprise me. I still hope you just take a few breathers and continue to play though, dude!
BR - Went after an idea of something slight that caught her attention on Day 0. And that does stick out a bit to me, as I'm also someone who is usually a bit lost for the first 3-4 days of each game I play. But again, it's only a Day 0 observation. So I don't put much stock into it. Plus MP's more rational responses seemed genuine to me.
Bullz - One of the first two people BF brought up after talking about his will thingy. His responses read genuine to me.
TH - The other person along with Bullz that BF brought up with the will thingy. To me, it feels like lately, looking at TH has fallen completely off the tracks. Not sure if it's from BF jumping around to several other people or something else.
Mongoose - Dark horse candidate currently for my vote. I always get nervous when she makes lots of jokey/off-topic posts, but especially so when she posts a lot without really posting much. And she's definitely doing the second one this game.
This post sticks out to me a lot though:
I know it's not much, but this feels to me like one of Mongoose's "saying something without saying something" posts to me, with a slight hint of jokey-ness to it.Mongoose wrote:I have no idea how to read all these new (and "new") people. I'll just assume you are all good. Seems legit.
There's also this... (note the bolded part):
...and this.Mongoose wrote: Huge deadline at COB tomorrow so I am spending my afternoon break doing a Scan & Ran with you lot. Seems like typical "mountains of molehill" Day 1 shenanigans, but nothing is toooo concerning to me yet (and I sure as hell don't have anything more compelling to add other than I made a "It has proudly been 3 days since our last velociraptor accident" sign for my office door).
I'll be voting early (tomorrow)because I leave for St Pete Saturday morning for a business trip and will be gone through Tuesday.
If Mongoose has more on-topic posts, I'll take a look later. But that's all I remember for now. I'll wait to hear her response before making further judgement though.Mongoose wrote:I'm frankly surprised I read the instructions and am not one of the ones who voted second for one of the items. That's a welcome change.
I will be back later either this afternoon or evening.
- Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:31 am
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 1]
Wow. 14 pages already?! You fools must be trying to go for the Death Note record, huh?
Now that I'm back home and have plenty of sleep from last night, I'm going to start reading the thread from the beginning.
Now that I'm back home and have plenty of sleep from last night, I'm going to start reading the thread from the beginning.
- Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:23 pm
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- Topic: Harry Stephen Keeler [ENDGAME]
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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 0]
Hi everyone! I am currently on vacation in Las Vegas (like the degenerate member of the Animal Sanctuary Squad that I am. I will not be playing until I return home on Thursday night. Otherwise, this is all you will hear from me until then. I'd ask for luck but I've already done fairly well in poker and blackjack. But I'll still take any good vibes. Happy mafia-ing!