The Syndicate

Who has JJJ suspected today? Me, when I suspect him Marmot, who suspects him ( 1 , 2 ) MP, who posted suspicions of him ( 1 , 2 ) Scotty, who suspects him Lorab, who posted suspicions of him ( 1 , 2 ) Epignosis, who posted suspicions of him ( 1 , 2 ) Didn't you criticize Lorab for doing basically w...

triceratopzeuhl wrote:It's alarming that I'm the only person who has even bothered to cross-check suspicions of dead civvies

FWIW I noticed it. I think one could be bad (Scotty) and the other two I'm neutral on (Dom and Lorab). So you may have a point at looking at those 3 there.

I would talk about them if there was meaningful content - almost 3000 words to say "marmot plays a bit goofy and changes his mind a lot" isn't worth dissecting Okay, NOW I think you're taking this to an extreme. I've gotten a lot more content from JJJ's posts than just that. Maybe timmer ...

triceratopzeuhl wrote:
If he was an information role as you believe I don't think he would have lynched 3 civs and been so far off in his reads this game

I mean, I have too. It's really hard to nail 4 baddies in a game of 19 players. What's your point here?

I'd like to know where people stand on Dom, as well. I still feel there is a good chance of him being bad, but if I'm still on an island with that, I'll keep it on the back burner. With Dom, most of the game I was neutral, leaning baddie. But he's slowly moved the needle to neutral, leaning civ. I ...

I'd like to know where y'all stand on Marmot right now. I am considering voting for him for today. Other possibilities for a vote: Scotty, Lorab (but not as likely now that she's done more than just defend herself in every post) Won't be getting my vote: You, Epignosis Anyone else is somewhere in t...

trice -- He wasn't as hard on Vompatti for perceived irrelevant content as he was on others (Epi and A Person). He called him a spambot and left it at that. That's not ideal. That's because that's how vompatti has always been on every website as long as I can remember knowing now that rico is putti...

I'd like to know what others think of Scotty right now. Each time I look at the player list his name stands out loudly to me. I kind of feel the same way about him as Dom. I think both have struggled to find their grounding in this game. You quote Dom's self-assessment as proof of this. I think Sco...

Dom posting the same way I'm criticizing JJJ and epignosis for - deliberately misleading when not outright lies in their accusations. Wouldn't be surprised if all three are bad, civvies can and do play honest the way virtually everybody else has been Well I think that outcome is unlikely because ri...

So N1 Vomp died, we see nothing from him N2 no death N3 Golden being killed by Sleep and the SK So one theory is that the SK was the target N2 and being targeted for Nightkilling activated his power Mafia/SK missed the kill N2 Kill was blocked N1 is tricky we have no data on who killed Vomp or his ...

Sig: rico was brought over from progarchives (not a mafia website) a few years ago by MP, same as me, epignosis, BWT, and A Person Golden targeted by mafia twice in 3 nights, seems they didn't like what he's been saying. This Fellow [JJJ -ed] is Not a Civilian I did not like his reasons for being a...

trice -- He wasn't as hard on Vompatti for perceived irrelevant content as he was on others (Epi and A Person). He called him a spambot and left it at that. That's not ideal. That's because that's how vompatti has always been on every website as long as I can remember knowing now that rico is putti...

I'd like to know what others think of Scotty right now. Each time I look at the player list his name stands out loudly to me. I kind of feel the same way about him as Dom. I think both have struggled to find their grounding in this game. You quote Dom's self-assessment as proof of this. I think Sco...

And if finding alternatives = the people attacking you, it's another faIL. You tried that with me, as well. If you are fully civ and genuinely want to find badies, going after the people annoyed with your play is destined to not end well, imo. That said, I am of course paying attention. To be fair,...

Epig, all people want out of you, and I don't get why you don't get this, are some alternatives. I mean, I said just like you dI'd that many of the cases yesterday were problematic. But that's where it ended for you. You are stubbornly refusing to take the lead in finding better choices and until y...

Epignosis wrote:I Don't Have to Have an Alternative Mr. POE- it's Good Enough That I Tell You Who Not to Lynch and Why

I disagree. If you have a better idea of who we could have lynched at the time, why did you not state so? I still don't get that.

Way to Characterize My Contributions in a 50 page game you can only point to 3 counterexamples, my characterization stands completely But still, with how much posting has already occurred in this game, I'm not sure that argument stands. Epig has been correct about 3 out of 3 mislynches here so far....

I'll admit that I have no suspicions that are particularly strong, though. I feel like I have a lot more town reads than I do baddie reads. Generally agreed. Even without a concerted effort to employ POE, I find myself doing it by accident. The suspicions I have voiced lately are my most substantiv...

Meh. Although I still say he wasn't playing a civ role in a particularly helpful way to the civ cause, so I'm not particularly bothered by the result as non mafia lynches go. I mean, I get this sentiment, but that's still 1 less civ we have on our side this game. At one point in my mafia career, I ...

Illinois (Sufjan Stevens) - 14
If You're Feeling Sinister (Belle & Sebastian) - 11
Loveless (My Bloody Valentine) - 26
The Lonesome Crowded West (Modest Mouse) - 15

Oh wow. I come back at this point, and there is literally only 1 album left on this list that I can even put in my top 100, let alone top 3. :'( Illinois (Sufjan Stevens) - 14 If You're Feeling Sinister (Belle & Sebastian) - 15 Loveless (My Bloody Valentine) - 26 Perfect From Now On (Built To Sp...

In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (Neutral Milk Hotel) - 21 Illinois (Sufjan Stevens) - 15 If You're Feeling Sinister (Belle & Sebastian) - 15 Since I Left You (The Avalanches) - 20 Loveless (My Bloody Valentine) - 21 Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (Spiritualized) - 12 [/dead] Perfect...

In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (Neutral Milk Hotel) - 21 Illinois (Sufjan Stevens) - 15 If You're Feeling Sinister (Belle & Sebastian) - 15 Since I Left You (The Avalanches) - 18 Loveless (My Bloody Valentine) - 21 Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (Spiritualized) - 15 Perfect From No...

I mean, I love NMH and MBV, but one of the albums on this list is in my top 3 of all time. So I will be crushed if it loses. In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (Neutral Milk Hotel) - 21 Illinois (Sufjan Stevens) - 15 If You're Feeling Sinister (Belle & Sebastian) - 14 [/dead] Since I Left You (The Av...

That last part was supposed to be in ot green. Sorry about that!

Well damn, that sucks. RIP AP! :( I will not be contributing much else tonight. I had a 12-hour work day, work today just sucked all around, and I have to be back in 10 1/2 hours. I probably will not be around for this night phase either, but if I am it will be very brief. I will probably be back ab...

Yeah, I'm conflicted. On one hand, A Person isn't evidently trying, short of asking the baddies to kill high posters which is actually the opposite of trying. On the other, is that indicative of him being bad? Or just unengaged? i don't like putting votes on people for acting weird, until that weir...

Universal Consciousness (Alice Coltrane) - 15
Karma (Pharoah Sanders) - 20
Out to Lunch (Eric Dolphy) - 12
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (Charles Mingus) - 11

Regarding timmer's beefs with BWT: I'm reading this similarly to the Boomslang controversy of Day 2. It looks like an inconsistency or a logical error so careless that I feel like I have to invoke WIFOM. The passage of one minute between his support of my collected quotes/his Boomslang vote and his...

First post worth quoting: I'm like 5 pages behind. Trying to catch up. Just wanted to let y'all know that I'm still here. Hi, LoRab! :D Curious to hear what thoughts you have when you get caught up. Hi! For now at least, I'm skipping those 5 pages. I don't have the time or energy to go back--so if a...

Lorab re-read incoming.

Universal Consciousness (Alice Coltrane) - 15
Karma (Pharoah Sanders) - 20
Out to Lunch (Eric Dolphy) - 15
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (Charles Mingus) - 10

Alright I have to run out for a bit. I will be back later this evening.

A Person wrote:hello mafia players!

Anything to contribute to the group?

So that we have a reference from Mad Max, I've pulled out a couple LoRab posts from that game that I think highlight the differences between here and there. Before I get into this, I want to reiterate that Mad Max and GY!BE have two totally different setups, so it's not unreasonable to think that T...

I think BWT explained himself somewhat adequately, but I want to know who he would advocate a lynch of besides himself :p Lol nice one there. Right now GTH, I would say A Person and MM (although not as much now). But neither of those is very strong. That's why I want to re-read Lorab and possibly f...

Alright. I have errands to run and stuff to do. I will be back late afternoon/early evening to do a re-read of Lorab.

@BWT, thanks for explaining your posts from yesterday, I guess I can see how that makes sense. It's possible to simultaneously agree with a case, and suspect someone for being on the very same case, it just tends to look weird, especially when the two posts were one minute apart! Well, as I've said...

Oops, it was Dom and Jay , not Golden who convinced me. Okay, so there was in fact a timing thing that perked your ears up at timmer. I guess I didn't see that and was just going by his content. But then again, I'm more of a content guy than a timing guy. :srsnod: Do you still feel the same way abo...

You have me confused BWT. On Day 1, I voted Boomslang, then switched to timmer. On Day 2, I voted timmer, then switched to Boomslang. On Day 1, I voted Boomslang for the timing thing I pointed out between him and timmer, and Golden pointed out it makes more sense to vote for timmer (so I did). On D...

Regarding timmer's beefs with BWT: I'm reading this similarly to the Boomslang controversy of Day 2. It looks like an inconsistency or a logical error so careless that I feel like I have to invoke WIFOM. The passage of one minute between his support of my collected quotes/his Boomslang vote and his...

Wow, of all the days for me to be screwed by traveling. So... two theories. One, my Sig hunch from Day 0/1 may be true. His late actions were scummy as hell. Two, MM is bad and we may have a vote forcer. This is a big hunch, but there is something so freaking odd about Boomslang's vote on me. It ma...

Regarding timmer's beefs with BWT: I'm reading this similarly to the Boomslang controversy of Day 2. It looks like an inconsistency or a logical error so careless that I feel like I have to invoke WIFOM. The passage of one minute between his support of my collected quotes/his Boomslang vote and his...

Alright, I'll drop the timmer thing. I'm probably wrong about it. I need a strong scumread though. Who's it? Good. Because you probably are. :P Idk. You posted a list awhile back. Is that list still relatively intact in terms of how you'd rank people or not? And would you add/move anyone else not m...

Reading BWT, I found some weirdness. MM posts this at 12:12 my time: Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy. Been out al...

I probably would have been on the Wilgy train, but I am also compelled by what I've seen said about Boomslang. I do not get his thought process RE: timmer, and I've still seen nothing from timmer that merits serious suspicion. Yeah, I really want to hear more from Boomslang. Because I'm starting to...

Fine. :meany: The only player on the roster I think would fail to send a kill is A Person, and I'm not even sure he would. I think it's more likely something else happened. I agree. There's not enough low posters in this game to make me entertain the possibility of the mafia failing to send their k...

RIP Wilgy, and what a crazy Day 2. I am more inclined to agree with Epignosis on the matter of Boomslang. I think there's a logical problem with his timmer vote that he should talk about, but there's the rub. When I look at the Boomslang controversy, my judgment veers toward that matter of logic --...

I think A Person has a greater-than-average chance of being an insanifier role given his obvious disdain for people posting at a high rate. I'll give him some credit for brazenly voicing his disdain, but I'll also state that I agree with an inference made by LoRab: that if there are two insanifying...

Wow, of all the days for me to be screwed by traveling. So... two theories. One, my Sig hunch from Day 0/1 may be true. His late actions were scummy as hell. Two, MM is bad and we may have a vote forcer. This is a big hunch, but there is something so freaking odd about Boomslang's vote on me. It ma...

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