The Syndicate

Yay! Good game everyone! And congrats to Kate, Juliets, and Dex too. You were awesome teammates! I'm surprised we actually made it through without any mistakes. I figured the night we tried to kill boo and He-Man that at least one of them would survive. But I guess that was just me being paranoid lol.

And Russ, you should have gone with your original instincts about me possibly being bad. But oh well.

What suspicions have I continued to ignore? I was under the impression that I had answered most of them. I know Russ said something along the lines of how he kept feeling like I was going with the flow and not contributing enough, but that I've picked up some since I realized the game had started. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm not giving my fair share of thoughts right now though, but with all the rl stuff I have going on I'm trying to do my best.

Unfortunately I have to vote now because I am leaving for work soon. Going to go with FH for today since she seems like a worthwhile candidate to me. And I don't see lynching llama being something that will help the civvies.

Votes FH

I've spent a large part of the morning thus far going over each of the incidents that Juliets has referred to. The one that really confuses me is the whole insanifying him being fake. Even after going over quotes related to it, it doesn't make any sense to me at all that it could have been faked. I feel like that was just thrown in to add to the suspicion that was currently surrounding him. But I'm not even sure why someone would do that. It seems too circumstantial and I don't see if changing a lot of minds one way or the other. So I would say my current stance on llama is unsure.

As for FH on the other hand, I feel like she's ignored a lot of suspicion that has fallen on her by trying to pass the buck on to someone else. As Kate's quote pointed out, LT expressed her feelings about BOTH FH and llama, and FH completely ignored the bit about her while saying that llama was "definitely where we should be looking next". That doesn't strike me as very civvie behavior. So I will be looking at FH for today's lynch unless something else changes my mind.

The roles don't reveal anything about it, so there must be some secrets we aren't aware of at play.

Also, lol @ the new title, SVS

You have to be kidding me....TWO people died?! I'm going to go back and read the roles and see if there's any way that could be possible.

Also, definitely going with Alf. He's much cheesier than any 80s pop star IMO.

Son of a.....I'm so sorry! RIP LT! I'm going to have to go back and re-evaluate my thoughts.

Son of a.....I'm so sorry! RIP LT! I'm going to have to go back and re-evaluate my thoughts.

thellama73 wrote:Although I voted for He-Man, I would like to go on record as fully supporting another LT vote as well.

Then why not vote for LT or at least spend a little more time to consider it?

Russtifinko wrote:Yeah your posts are pretty readable to me, Dex.

Russtifinko wrote: I'm not totally convinced BWT is bad; but since he's come back he hasn't impressed me. I definitely buy that RL got in the way at the beginning, but since then his contributions have been 1) defending himself 2) agreeing with MP about Dex's list of names and 3) pulling a 180 and deciding he needs to lynch MP (whose opinion he somehow trusts anyway regarding the list?). So this vote is mainly a heads up: BWT, you will probably have earned my suspicion if MP flips civ, and I really hope you start contributing more of your own thoughts because we seem to need all the help we can get to find these baddies.

This is what I was referring to, BWT. Now, MP didn't flip civ, which I think helps your case some, and since I posted this you have contributed more to the discussion. I still think it was very weird that you basically seemed to accept MP's opinion of Dex's list while simultaneously suspecting MP of baddieism. I'm still not sure why you'd want to lynch him but trust his opinion of other players.

Yeah, I can definitely see how that would seem odd. Honestly though, when I first read through it was all kind of a blue and I was trying to post my thoughts while trying to absorb everything (kind of a stream-of-consciousness issue), so I'm honestly not sure why I said it. I mean, I agreed with Dex's list at the time, but I'm not sure why I make it sound like I agreed with MP when I thought he was bad.

As for today's lynch, I'm going to have to vote now. I'm going with LT out of the people I'm most suspicious of, because re-reading her and INH didn't make me feel any better about her. Not to mention I believe I've seen her online multiple times since she's really started coming under fire. Which makes me think she's reading along and catching up, but I don't understand why she wouldn't come in and defend herself. To me, just giving up like that doesn't seem like a civvie thing to do. Kind of how Vomps voted for himself. So LT is getting my vote today, and I feel fairly confident we've gotten another baddie.

Votes LT

Linki: Lol I didn't see that before.

Russtifinko wrote:RIPIYWG rey. Pretty sure you were. Now I'll really be frustrated if what you were trying to say was important.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

boo wrote:

The A Team wrote:Poor Reywas RIP my friend -odd choice for the kill no one could understand the poor kid!

Looks like Dex won't be a problem to understand. His words are are just jumbled almost easy as pie compared to Reywas.

So hope we are looking at llama, FH, LT2 and possibly HeMan.
What do we think about Snow Dog and Kate?

Thoughts?

I would sub LT2 with BWT. Kate is off the poll, but she was someone I was considering for today, guess that's off the table. At this point I don't see snow dog being bad.

So ya, my list for today (in no particular order) is BWT, FH, llama and HeMan.

I asked why I was on your list earlier, and you didn't respond why before. Would you mind answering me as to why I'm still on your list?

BWT, I think I gave a pretty solid list of reasons to vote you 2 days ago when I voted you. Feel free to disagree on that, but I am still waiting for a satisfactory response from you on the points I made back then.

Sorry! I completely forgot about that. What was it you wanted me to respond to again?

Oh, and while I'm at it, what made you take Kate off your list?

boo wrote:

The A Team wrote:Poor Reywas RIP my friend -odd choice for the kill no one could understand the poor kid!

Looks like Dex won't be a problem to understand. His words are are just jumbled almost easy as pie compared to Reywas.

So hope we are looking at llama, FH, LT2 and possibly HeMan.
What do we think about Snow Dog and Kate?

Thoughts?

I would sub LT2 with BWT. Kate is off the poll, but she was someone I was considering for today, guess that's off the table. At this point I don't see snow dog being bad.

So ya, my list for today (in no particular order) is BWT, FH, llama and HeMan.

I asked why I was on your list earlier, and you didn't respond why before. Would you mind answering me as to why I'm still on your list?

@Boo:I like a lot of the names on your list as people who are potential baddies. Several of them are people I'm interested at examining further. But out of curiosity, what makes you think I'm a baddie?

Some people I will be reading over today and tomorrow are Kate, llama, LT, and rey. Those are my top suspicions for right now.

In my defense, I thought it said "Blue Jean", which is a Bowie song...

BIH Vomps! Excellent result!

Not really big on any of these songs in particular, but I have to give support to Bowie, since he's......well, David f-ing Bowie.

thellama73 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote: Llama, the main reason I am suspicious of Vomps can be found back in the giant post I made a few pages back (it's the very last one on the bottom of the page, so it shouldn't be too hard to find). Basically, me re-reading him and pulling all those quotes is why I am so suspicious of him and think he is bad.

Yes, I just reread that. It was a very well put together argument, which is why I am much less suspicious of you than I used to be.

Yeah, I figured that. I just think you're off the mark in this instance is all.

juliets wrote:Every time I come in it seems like something strange has happened! This time vomps voted for himself, which for me kind of clinches it. I can't think of a lynch switch action that the person knows about before it occurs so I think Vompatti is just dancing around on those questions. Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and vote Vompatti based on the reasons I talked about earlier and what has happened since.

I'm hoping this is indeed the case, and that Vomps voting for himself is just making me unnecessarily paranoid.

Okay. Vompatti voting for himself seems extremely odd to me. I feel like something else is going on that we don't know about.

Llama, the main reason I am suspicious of Vomps can be found back in the giant post I made a few pages back (it's the very last one on the bottom of the page, so it shouldn't be too hard to find). Basically, me re-reading him and pulling all those quotes is why I am so suspicious of him and think he is bad.

I guess there's no point in me holding my vote at this point though. So Vompatti it is.

Votes Vompatti

Alright. So here we go. This is everything that sticks out about Vomps to me.

Most of his first few posts are either nonsense or don't have much of value to them. So I will skip re-posting them.

This is the first time he voted for MP. He claims it was for MP randomizing his vote. However, given everything that has happened with MP and us having talked about that topic outside of any mafia games, I can't see a time when he would ever randomize. And I don't think he did in this game so this seems like an odd response.

Vompatti wrote:Whoops, almost missed it. Voted for MP for randomizing.

Here is where he claims he "randomized" for boo, but could have gone for MP again. No explanation on why he would have voted for MP really, other than "gut feeling".

Vompatti wrote:

boo wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Voted for boo in a hurry, could just as well have voted for MP.

Well this is the worst vote yet. Clearly someone is paying zero attention to what's going on or is a liar.

Browsed through the thread and would still vote the same way because gut feeling.

Vomps asks MP why he is on his list, and MP later says it's because Vomps didn't give any reason for voting for him or boo other than randomizing. Definitely strikes me as really odd. Did MP actually agree with Dex's list or not? I don't remember what happened there.

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Why me?

What do you think of the person making the accusation?

MP? I think it's a bit odd that he agreed without any argument with Dex's random list of names above and that he wouldn't say why he has his eye on me particularly. Besides that and the randomization thing at the beginning of the game I don't find him particularly suspicious, although I can't say I trust him either.

Here is Kate's opinion on it and Vomps' response. I didn't think of it before, but it's entirely possible MP and Vomps could be throwing each other under the bus here, and trying to distance themselves. Any opinions on this one?

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:
A little bus throwing possibly? He loves to do that in games where you win with your team, dead or alive.

I had to cut a post out, too many to allow me to repost.

Assuming he's bad I don't think that would be a good strategy this early in the game, especially since it seems he'll probably be lynched soon.

This one is definitely REALLY odd. I almost feel like there's some subliminal message or something hinting BTSC here.

Vompatti wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: Because you came in here and voted for either me or boo and you didn't seem to have a good reason for either. Care to elaborate at all?

Also, I did not agree with Dex's list at all. I said I have my eye on all of them. Very different story.

What if I told you I "randomized" between the two of you? ;D

Then we have these 2 posts:

Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.

Vompatti wrote:I didn't vote yet in case something comes up. No, I'm not sure, but he seems the most suspicious to me at the moment.

They're practically back-to-back. So you lean toward MP the most, but you aren't willing to vote him yet? I mean, I understand him wanting to hear Dex out, but you already voted for him once for no reason, so wouldn't it make it easier to vote him again if you honestly believe he is bad?

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:You didn't think that voting to break a tie would be subject to scrutiny?

I didn't think about that, I just thought that it would be useless to vote for someone other than boo or MP and since missing the vote seems to be generally frowned upon I picked one of the two which happened to break the tie.

So you have no suspicions whatsoever, except for the 2 people you "randomized" for. And you can't even back either of those 2 up?

Also, he immediately votes for MP again. Jumping on the bandwagon here, are we?

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

boo wrote:

Dex wrote:One down, three to go! (Sorry MP, some day I'll get to see you play civ.) I was wrong about the affiliation but I'm OK with that.

As for his associate, of the four I'm suspecting Kate and Vomp voted for him and He-Man and Rusty Finko voted elsewise, making the latter two more suspect to my way of thinking.

I'm fairly confident vomp is his teammate, and that's probably where my vote is going tomorrow. It was pretty well clinched by the time he voted MP, and his D2 vote made ZERO sense as he said it was either me or MP (a split decision which made no sense), and it was the deciding vote in that lynch.

I agree wholeheartedly.

How would voting for MP have made more sense? Obviously he turned out to be bad but I'm not exactly getting civ vibes out of boo either.

Lastly, he claims to be happy about getting a baddie, but then subtly pushes boo again. This time he says he doesn't get civ vibes from boo, but again, no explanation why.

In conclusion, I think Vomps looks extremely suspicious here. And it's possible we may have found MP's teammate.

First off, yay! Congrats on the lynch everyone!

Secondly, of all the bands on the list, I kind of agree with MP (even though he's dead and a baddie) in that I really don't like any of these bands. But then again, I don't really like hair metal either. I guess I'll go with Motley Crue since they at least have a few songs I can stand, and Dr. Feelgood is okay.

Thirdly, I'm sorry I have earned some of your suspicion, Russ. Even with getting back from vacation, RL has still been a bit more hectic than it is lately, so blame my work schedule which hasn't been particularly good for this game, and the fact that my free time has been extremely limited. So every time I've come here lately (this morning being the first exception so far), I've only barely had time to catch up and then vote. Starting tomorrow though, I should be able to have a bit more time to devote to this game.

Lastly, I'm feeling fairly strongly about Vomps as well. But I am going to go back and read his posts in this game again to see if anything else sticks out.

Sorry! I've only barely had time to catch up today. And I might not have time to check in again until tomorrow. But from what I've read, I was willing to consider voting for one of the people MP had on his list, but him going out of his way to pull up quotes from other games seems like he's grasping at straws. Especially since people can change their style of play from game to game. So while I understand where he's coming from, I'm taking it with a grain of salt here.

If MP flips civvie, I'll go streaking at work. But regardless of what happens, I think we are going to have a lot to go on with however this lynch goes down.

Votes MP

Snow Dog wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:And to add to that last post, I remember MP mentioning that I was out of town when the game started, so the fact that you're looking at me as suspicious seems a bit -worthy to me.

Theoretically you could be on a team I suppose.

Yes, I can see where you're going with that. But I'm not. I ended up coming back of my own accord when I happened to check up on what I had missed in the MotU game. That's how I noticed the PMs that this game had started. If you don't believe me, feel free to ask SVS about it and she can confirm it. Also where we were staying, there was very poor internet access on my phone (to put it mildly). But we were on a naval base that was out in the middle of nowhere so that's understandable.

And besides, don't you think my teammates would have done more to make sure I at least checked in sooner than 4 days after the game started?

And to add to that last post, I remember MP mentioning that I was out of town when the game started, so the fact that you're looking at me as suspicious seems a bit -worthy to me.

thellama73 wrote:I want to ask what people are thinking about BWT. I know I came down on Boo for calling him out early, but after that he missed four votes in a row and has been almost entirely absentee until very recently, when he ducked in for only a moment. I understand that real life gets in the way, but the extent of his silence is starting to ping me.

From last Wednesday until very late last Sunday night, I was out of town. When I got back, I was really busy with work and I'd completely forgotten I had signed up for this game. Heck, I didn't even know it had started so that should tell you something.

Also once I got back, I was so busy with work and work-related stuff (I'm on an inclusion-type council and I have "homework" I've been working on for our meeting today, plus I'm applying to get into a management position and there's been a lot of extra paperwork involved since I'm applying internally). So honestly, until yesterday, I didn't have the time I needed to spend on this game. But thankfully I do now.

Also I'm going to go with duct tape. The Mythbusters have proven that you can do anything with duct tape up to surviving on a desert island, so I think it would be the ultimate survival tool.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry for so much posting, but does anyone have reads on He Man or Vompatti as well? I'm not sure what to make of either of them at all.

Linki with BWT: His vote on Day 1 was a vote for juliets after she voted for him (switcheroo) and he seemed pretty peeved that he even got a vote for little participation, which I found just a bit strange since it hardly made him a lynch candidate (comparable to Boomslang in MOTU how he seemed a bit too overdefensive). Not sold on that, but it did strike me a bit odd. Additionally, he is still laying a bit low and no one is mentioning him at all, and he still seems a bit overdefensive with what he posted after today's lynch to llama. I don't know.

I feel least strong about him of the five I listed, honestly, but I can't help but shake those couple of gut pings. Knowing that we both know him IRL as well, what do you think of him?

I can understand him getting peeved for the vote for not participating that much. The part that bothers me is more him "laying low" as you described it and being really overdefensive from today's lynch.

Idk. I guess at this point, I feel more strongly about the other 4 names you mentioned. With AATB, I'm highly suspicious but I still think there's a chance he could be a frustrated civvie. I think the other 4 people have done more in regards to earning my vote for the next day phase.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

AllAlongTheBoardwalk wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

AllAlongTheBoardwalk wrote:Did the poll just end? If so I missed it...my bad everyone. Catching up now.

Bah, a likely story! How convenient for you to avoid accountability.

I literally logged on 5mins ago. But, whatever, lynch me if you like.

Also, meant to include this as well in my last post, but any thoughts?

Either he is admitting defeat or he knew something was going down last lynch. That's my guess.

Alex, why AATB? I get the other 4 and remember good reasons to look at them, but what makes AATB suspicious again?

Sorry. Reading through 10 pages of information at once will make me forget some things lol.

Alright. I wanted to get caught up last night, but with my girlfriend coming over that ended up not happening. And then working early today meant I didn't finish catching up until tonight. Day 1 is what sticks with me the most right now. To me, I really don't trust INH or Snow Dog much based on their actions from Day 1.

I am very curious to hear what everyone else's opinions are at this stage of the game however. Because while I've read everything I don't feel like much has sunk in. Plus I want to be able to judge the field.

Sorry everyone! I was out of town from last Wednesday until late Sunday night. And yesterday I didn't have any time to check in any. I'm off work today so I will work on catching up this afternoon after I take care of some job stuff and then I will post my thoughts. Again, I'm sorry for not realizing that the game had started a few days ago!