The Syndicate

Also, RIP Vomps!

Yeah, I would be shocked if it was Dom honestly. I don't have any reason to suspect him myself.

While a small part of me is still reluctant about it, I'm going to go ahead and go with Vomps. He seemed genuinely interested and into this game at the beginning, but then it plummeted and dropped off. Which makes me wonder if any of it had to do with him gaining some kind of powerful secrets. Sorry if I'm wrong about you Vomps, but out of everyone still alive, I think you have the best chance of being the SK.

Votes Vomps

Dom wrote:BWT, do you have anything other than just this Tarot post about Vomps?

As in, do I have any other type of read on him? Not really, no. I get gut feelings on him, but never anything concrete.

Any reason you went with a fly-by vote for him?

Linki: I won't forget! That's why I'm here!

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP Hedge!

I'm not sure what the Tarot card reading means at all. Lol.

Me neither. Honestly, it reminds me of roles where that person gets to post their thoughts in the thread. It's usually bad to take it as gospel, so I might look into it a bit, but it probably won't change my opinion of Vomps that much.

Also, what do others makes of the tarot reading on Vomps? Because it definitely doesn't make me feel good, but I'm not sure if it's in a "Vomps is bad" way or "something terrible is going to happen to Vomps" way.

RIP Hedgeowl!

Mongoose wrote:I reread MM during my catchup and analysis portion of the program and I'm not inclined to really concentrate there today.

Yeah, I'm just not seeing the case on him either. I might read back and see what Hedgeowl was thinking or who she was looking at, because I can't think of anyone who would have wanted her dead.

I would be okay with it, assuming you have all the PMs. I think that's the only way it would be fair.

Vompatti wrote:By the way, I wonder who might have found it beneficial and/or entertaining to insanify me?

I would, butt not for nefariosuris reasons k.

Also, I didn't insanify you either.

Knowing Vomps, I think being insanified would actually spur him to post more often/frequently, compared to being able to talk normally.

Also, if he's being truthful and he's not reading the thread, that will make me more hesitant to vote for him. Because he's been lynched before for not reading, and I can't think of a time he's come up a baddie when doing that.

Linki: Ture. Like SVS, I've only ever seen about 5-6 insanifiers, and it's not really the kind of thing you can find by Googling key words. But I do think you being insanified would make you more likely to post.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

Good point. But if he's not going to explain it, then what do you make of his vote? Because I think it's either 1) nonsensical, 2) has a hidden agenda, 3) is info-related. Those are the only possibilities I see here.

@Vomps: Are you still reading the thread or not?

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Damn, sorry INH!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:You civilians sure are lucky I decided to count Elohcin's vote. Random.org was gunning for MetalMarsh. :P

And no, the game is not over.

Based on nutella's lynch, llama randomizes in the case of a tie.

So we can't automatically assume bwt's or vomp's vote was worth extra, because INH may have just gotten unlucky.

And I don't know how anyone else feels about this, but it looks like llama slipped up here. I may get slammed for looking too much into this, but llama seems to imply in this post that the civvies are lucky that nutella was lynched over me, meaning I am civvie. Take it how you will.

Yeah, that would be my guess as well, that llama simply randomized with ties. Come to think of it, I think Rob is the only host I've seen who doesn't do that with ties.

Where are you getting that bit about nutella from? I don't see that in the lynch post.

Vomps, I really hope you'll decipher whatever it is you're saying if you end up surviving. Because I'm clueless.

Linki: Yeah, you know it's bad if you forget to vote and I remember.

Wat

EBWOP: 3-way tie* My phone was dumb there.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'm voting MM like I did last time, but I'm also keeping an eye on INH for reasons not stated in this post.

This is the only sane time vomps has mentioned INH, and it doesn't make sense.

I wish I had noticed this before I voted. Might have made me reconsider. What's done is done unfortunately. Depends on how the host handles a tie I guess.

Maybe there won't be a lynch and we'll get a freebie.

Link: MM, I voted alongside him for self-preservation. I wasn't interested in potentially setting myself up in a 4-way tie for this lynch.

Linki2: Wth?

Well, I went with INH. I'm still willing to give Vomps the benefit of the doubt for now. Sorry if you're a civ, INH.

I'm holding onto my vote in case I need to save myself. If I don't need to do that, I might go for Hedgeowl. I don't like the vote for Vomps. I think he's still genuinely interested in the game, and that alone is enough to make me think he wouldn't self-insanify.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
My top suspect would be BWT, he's been just as blendy as I've been accused of being.

There is this post.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright, so we have a little bit of time before the vote ends. I don't know where I stand on a MM vote at this point, mostly because the only case I see for him is that "he's blendy". Is that the greatest extent of it or am I missing something else?

I was trying to understand where the case on you was coming from, because I didn't understand or agree with it.

And this

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Okay, makes sense.

Of course I'm probably coming off as blendy. :P Speed games are usually terrible with my schedule, which is why I don't play them much anymore. I often don't have the time or energy to post nearly as much as I like.

I'll think about what you said. I'm not really committed to voting for any one person in particular yet, and I have a bit more time before I have to come to a decision.

BWT even admits to being blendy.

Did you look at the reason why I admitted to being blendy? I think it's a legitimate reason. Granted, I'm doing my best to try a bit harder. But I hate that it has to come with my head possibly being on the chopping block today.

Also, why is it that a guy who has also been accused of being "blendy" decides to go after another player who has the same accusation leveled at him. So which is the pot and which is the kettle here?

If you have some reason for looking at me other than me being "blendy" which I'm honestly starting to get tired of, given I get called "blendy" several times in almost every game of mafia I play, then I will gladly listen and offer explanations. But if I get lynched again because I came off as "blendy", I'm going to call BS.

Dom wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Yeah, of course I would miss another vote. I mean, I've only missed 6 of my last 8 possible votes on this site, so clearly I shouldn't bother voting ever. Or playing for that matter.

Hm.

6 out of 8 because it carries over from The Hobbit.

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have said that. I hate missing a vote, especially when I actually have a little extra time. But the fact that I've missed so many now makes me really mad at myself. And honestly makes me feel like it's not even worth playing if I'm not going to participate in the most basic, essential mafia task.

I'll feel better and get over it soon. Right now it just feels like I'm venting, and that helps a lot.

Also, not really sure how MM survived, and not sure how that makes me feel yet.

Yeah, of course I would miss another vote. I mean, I've only missed 6 of my last 8 possible votes on this site, so clearly I shouldn't bother voting ever. Or playing for that matter.

Okay, makes sense.

Of course I'm probably coming off as blendy. :P Speed games are usually terrible with my schedule, which is why I don't play them much anymore. I often don't have the time or energy to post nearly as much as I like.

I'll think about what you said. I'm not really committed to voting for any one person in particular yet, and I have a bit more time before I have to come to a decision.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

Okay, I see this quote too in one of SVS' posts. But this is the only other evidence I can find. So is that pretty much it?

Alright, so we have a little bit of time before the vote ends. I don't know where I stand on a MM vote at this point, mostly because the only case I see for him is that "he's blendy". Is that the greatest extent of it or am I missing something else?

Dom wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote: Moving on, I'm not getting a LMS indie type of vibe from Dom, but more of a cold, confused, and angry civvie. We should just wait until the drugs wear off, and then hear what he has to say in a hopefully more coherent manner.

I think that's why I have a hard time reading Dom sometimes. In most games, he comes across to me this way at at least one point in time. And that's the impression I'm getting from him now.

Dom, do you feel that the medication you're on is affecting your ability to play or comprehend the game in some ways, or is that a load of crock?

That's a load of crock.
It affects my appetite and my sleep patterns. That's it.
INH would like you to believe that I am a complete, incoherent mess that can't post. I'm not.

Okay, thanks for the response. As for your vote, that's...interesting. Mostly because I still feel this thing between you and INH is civ on civ.

Mongoose wrote:If SVS is right about the indie not being able to kill until the baddies were both dead (or maybe the baddie killer was dead), this would give this indie a serious motivation to become the world's best baddie hunter (and thus look like Mayor Civ).

Assuming this theory is true, would that consider looking at people who have been trying really hard to hunt baddies, but people we aren't totally sure of?

My brain is still waking up, so this probably isn't the best time to be asking these questions, but I want to make sure I'm reading this idea right.

insertnamehere wrote: Moving on, I'm not getting a LMS indie type of vibe from Dom, but more of a cold, confused, and angry civvie. We should just wait until the drugs wear off, and then hear what he has to say in a hopefully more coherent manner.

I think that's why I have a hard time reading Dom sometimes. In most games, he comes across to me this way at at least one point in time. And that's the impression I'm getting from him now.

Dom, do you feel that the medication you're on is affecting your ability to play or comprehend the game in some ways, or is that a load of crock?

Dom wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well, you're welcome. You can thank us later. :P BIH Nutella!

So given that the game isn't over yet, my guess is that we still have other roles we need dead to finish the game. Abramelin is the only person I see with secrets, so my first guess would be that it's him. Anybody agree or disagree there?

Linki: It's okay. You're forgiven, since we know you're not evil. :P

Who is "us"?

I meant the people who voted for Nutella. That line probably should have be in sarcastic orange, in retrospect. Because I was trying to make a joke.

Elohcin wrote:Bye Nutella Thanks for counting my vote Llama!

After I get the kids to bed I am going to do some rereading of the roles as well as players posts. Does anyone think Abramelin could have been recruited to the baddie team? If so, my distancing comment could still be relevant.

I dunno. I mean, I guess it's possible. I know Crowley's role didn't mention any powers specifically, but that Chornozon (or however it's spelled) wasn't mentioned in any of the roles. So I guess by that theory, there could be other baddie secrets we aren't aware of. I just don't think it's likely that someone gets recruited by Day 4. Usually, recruitments take a bit longer than that from what I've seen in games.

Tl;dr: It's within the realm of possibility, but I don't think it's likely.

Linki: Yeah, I think we're going to have to start over for this one. I get the feeling Abramelin is a lone wolf, and would not have been civvie or baddie-oriented. So I guess we start there.

Linki2: And I would also like an answer to Blooper's question.

Linki3: Nevermind. That answers that.

thellama73 wrote:Oh, and since it's annoying when hosts are too cryptic about these sorts of things, I will go ahead and tell you that yes, you have to kill Abramelin. Someone like that just can't be allowed to live.

Did he do some not-very-nice things?

Well, you're welcome. You can thank us later. :P BIH Nutella!

So given that the game isn't over yet, my guess is that we still have other roles we need dead to finish the game. Abramelin is the only person I see with secrets, so my first guess would be that it's him. Anybody agree or disagree there?

Linki: It's okay. You're forgiven, since we know you're not evil. :P

As for my lack of participation (can't speak for Keterman's unfortunately), I'm notoriously bad usually with keeping up with speed games. I work a variable schedule every week, so the idea of a game where cycles change every 24 hours sometimes screws me over really badly. Because a lot of times, I won't get much time (or any) to catch up and make informed decisions. I'm doing everything in my power to try to have one speed game where that doesn't happen though.

Gah! I realized about 20 minutes ago that I hadn't voted. That was just enough time for me to catch up and vote. Went with nutella because I hadn't seen anything that swayed me in any other direction.

I'm still leaning towards Nutella for today's lynch. But I want to hold off on my vote, because I'm still not super confident, and I want to see what else comes up. And I promise that after missing the last 6 or 7 lynch polls I've been a part of on this site, that I will NOT miss this one too.

I do have a question for Elo though. Why do you think Nutella is distancing? I mean, there's only 1 baddie left, so I'm not sure how she could be distancing if she's bad.

Linki

RIP Boogs!

I'm not sure what Chronozon awakening means, and if that's a good or bad thing. But I probably won't be awake much longer (waking up for work at 3:45 in the morning does not make for a very exciting, active day afterwards), so I'll try and contribute a bit more tomorrow.

Well shucks! I missed the vote! Sorry about that! I was off work today, and spent a longer amount of time hanging out with friends than I had thought I was going to. I figured I would be home in time to vote, but that wasn't the case unfortunately. Honestly, MP's case was enough that I'm going to take a look at Mongoose for tomorrow's vote. I want to read up on some other things myself though.

I'm still looking at nutella, but I'm not sure if I feel confident enough to place a vote there, or anywhere else, yet. And I'm still just getting into the game. Who else is everyone looking at?

nutella wrote:Birdie, what would make you think I'm specifically that role?
I haven't intentionally said things "just to see where they go" like you said, I just post what I'm thinking. Honestly I've only remembered to check the thread about twice a day, and when I come in I see if anything sticks out to me, and reply to anything that does. I'm having a hard time nailing down suspicions because it is a small game and still early, not much has happened.

Well I guess it's possible that I'm interpreting you having a hard time nailing down suspicions as trying to steer the direction of the thread. And I think you're an intelligent enough player to be able to do so. But I could possibly be wrong.

We'll see though. You're still currently my main suspect, but we're still well off a Day 3 vote. So I have time to make up my mind one way or another.

Well, Vomps, I have a pretty good attention span. So I think I'll be fine for now.

Alright. My thoughts are slightly jumbled, but here's what I have so far. We'll start with Dom v. Boogs.

I don't see anything between the two of them yet that makes me think it is anything other than civ on civ. I think it's a case of Dom accuses/looks at Boogs, Boogs gets overly defensive, Dom delves further into what Boogs is saying based on things like tone, word choice, and reactions he gets from Boogs (because that's how he plays). So for now, I'm not seeing a case on either one there.

I'm not sure what to think about MP. I know he's apartment-hunting down in San Antonio until tomorrow, so I wonder if part of the reason I feel confused about some of his responses is because of that. But the whole Boogs vote strikes me as odd, even if he had to vote early because he wouldn't have a chance to later on. Will have an on him.

Nutella is the only person I really wonder about. It seems like she's trying to sit behind the scenes, but drive/influence the direction the thread goes (see what she said about Boogs v. Dom). She slightly took Boogs' side, and took a slight jab at what is, IMO, Dom's playstyle. It seems like she's had some suspicions on some people, but more in an "let's state this and see where it goes" over a "I'm probably going to vote for these people" way. Right now, I have her pegged as Abramelin. What are others' thoughts on that? Because if she is indeed that role, I would want it gone fairly soon. Especially since we're about to enter Day 3, and we don't know at what point he becomes super powerful.

I'm not set on my Day 3 vote yet, and I want to keep looking. But that's what I've gathered so far.

Linki: Wtf ur evil zombie

Hi all!

I'm replacing in for Keterman, apparently. Don't think I know who that is.

Oh man, a whole 6 pages?! I don't know how you expect me to get through all of that. :P Going to catch up now, since I haven't looked at anything in this game yet.