The Syndicate

Goldy wrote:I think I'll pass for now. I'm somewhat ill and I think there are people who deserve to play AOT mafia more than me. So I'm up to be replaced.

I'm going to play with you guys next time for sure. Ja Ne!

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:Only titans play tag.

You got the role PM, not me.

No sir I do believe you got a titan role PM, with Quin as your buddy.

sig wrote:Only titans play tag.

sig wrote:Why am I bad.

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.


Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.

NO U
Quin

On a more serious note, I've joked around about being bad before. It was very early day 0 fluff there was no meaning behind it what so ever. I find it strange you're trying to give it a meaning when it was clearly fluffyness.

Is this a serious accusation? Or just bullshit NO U voted me, I'm voting you?

It's hard to tell since you guys, girls (some gender neutral nonsense here) just throw your votes around like their meaningless.

Semi serious, I doubt I'll leave it on Quin, but him picking at my fluff is pingy.

Serge wrote:I think I've said this before but day 1 is usually hazy for me. I think I said this on Turf Wars, it's the truth. If you believe me then we'll be able to make Mafia great again.

leetic wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with you. The kind of "information" you propose to gain by lynching somebody who is actually around is easily manipulated and for that reason generally useless. You call it information. I call it potential misinformation.

I am not suggesting a random dart throw. Serge is not random. Serge was deliberately selected.

You propose lynching an active player who might be good just so we have something to talk about Day 2. No thanks.

It makes it easier to read people if one person is confirmed town. Furthermore, Serge is for all purposes a random dart throw since he has no game related posts and nothing to go off of. But we should drop this discussion, since we're only wasting the day phase and that's the very thing I want to prevent.

leetic wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
*PARAPHRASED FROM QUOTE PYRAMID* We take a chance

That's high risk, decent reward thinking. So if we do the minimal effort to catch scum, we might land. And if we don't? We waste a day phase.

There are ways to catch scum that a. aren't just throwing a dart at someone randomly and hoping you hit scum and b. are less likely to waste a day phase.

leetic wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

leetic wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

leetic wrote:Yeah, that does seem a little like prodging to me. I guess I wouldn't be opposed to a lynch on him, but still I'd like to lynch someone who'd give us a little more information. How much information does lynching an inactive player give if they flip town? Not much.

I don't lynch for information. I lynch to win.

'Xcept it's D1, and the best D1 lynch is one that gives the town information and puts them on track in the next phases.

Err, anyone we lynch will give us information if the role is revealed.... even a low poster.

If said person is a good then we can look at who wanted low posters lynched as info...

What info do you get when you lynch an active player on day 1 and they are town? Exactly the same as a low poster, IMO.

An active player would have more content, and likely have more interactions with other players. Information then can be deduced from there.

Contrast that to Serge, who has made only two non-game-related posts. Sure, other people criticize him, but it's only for being inactive, and people on both factions make that argument. I guess it would be a slight scumtell for those who lynched him, but from an active player you can glean so much more. In my opinion, anyway.

leetic wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

leetic wrote:Yeah, that does seem a little like prodging to me. I guess I wouldn't be opposed to a lynch on him, but still I'd like to lynch someone who'd give us a little more information. How much information does lynching an inactive player give if they flip town? Not much.

I don't lynch for information. I lynch to win.

'Xcept it's D1, and the best D1 lynch is one that gives the town information and puts them on track in the next phases.

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.


Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.

NO U
Quin

On a more serious note, I've joked around about being bad before. It was very early day 0 fluff there was no meaning behind it what so ever. I find it strange you're trying to give it a meaning when it was clearly fluffyness.

S~V~S wrote:Attention Guys~ Bass is not being replaced, k? He is stillplaying.

agleaminranks wrote:That was a rhetorical statement, rabbit.

agleaminranks wrote:What in the hell happened in the last six pages.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:That data is bunk, Epi, I never voted for rabbit.

I think you just want us to think that.

insertnamehere wrote:I think we should extend the day too.

Silverwolf wrote:Fuck off. I'm not reading any more of this game. I'm replacing out.

DrWilgy wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Lalala~<3 hello everyone! My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a singer!

I have a question! Who is worried more about survivability mafia or civilian?

Next I want you to think based on your answer from above. Who would be more vocal regarding survival? WIFOM isn't an option.

INH can I please have a GTH on Silver, Ika, Rabbit and MP?

(uhh what does GTH stand for?)

Lalala~<3 GTH is a gun to head read. If I had a gun, put it to your head and told you to tell me good or bad reads of people, that's GTH.

@Silver, are you and Ika both good or both bad? Also... I see you skipped my question from previous...

Silverwolf wrote:

leetic wrote:

ika wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I just realized... There's no cop in this game.

Sorry leetic, I lied.

Yo MM, got any reads or thoughts for me (and the thread)?

Yes, Silverwolf is scum.

How about them apples?

shes not scum shes town

i havent beena le to sleep but im not in a mood to make porper posting

...Actually, come to think of it, they might be scum together. I don't have a good feeling about these wolf guys, because they spend most of their time just screwing around and claim that anyone else's reads on them are invalid. so Vote: ika

This is bullshit. I'm not talking about ika, he can take care of himself but I'm not just screwing around this game. Quote me where I'm doing that. Of course I'm gonna say someone saying, with absolute certainly that I'm scum, is invalid. You believe metalmarsh on that? Why? You don't fight false claims on you when someone calls you scum when you are town?

I can already tell this game is gonna frustrate me.

Silverwolf wrote:Moving Pictures

He was super defensive in Mafia Championship Scrimage game as scum. I've already outlined several other points. I don't like how people are lining up to defend him. There is bound to be teammate behavior among it since he's done nothing town enough to deserve that.

rabbit8 wrote: When ika started bullying MP you thought MP was being defensive? So pilling on was acceptable in your opinion, because what you believe is helpful is truth? Because your philosophy and MP's differ you accuse him of being scum? Do you think defensiveness is only characteristic of baddies (scum, mafia)?

Does indignant posting count as defensive?

Silverwolf wrote:Name one thing I've done this game so far that can make you so certain I'm scum. One thing in my behavior or motivation this game that gives you such a sure scumread. Go for it. I have caught scum trying to mislynch me in several games before so if that's your angle, I will find that out soon enough. But you better talk about it and not avoid me. I want reasons for your suspicion or like I said, I'll just push you back until I find out if you are scum trying to mislynch me or woefully misguided town.

MM's gut? Valid reason, no?

Silverwolf wrote:rabbit-Why are you defending MP? We were not bullying him. I told you repeatedly now, behavior I found suspicious and called him on it. No, his gut isn't valid because he never said gut. He said-don't read ika at all in any way by his behavior. I really don't appreciate saying something numerous times and then having my words twisted to mean something they didn't. I thought this behavior was suspicious and called him on it and I stated why. So you can twist that around, and put your own spin on it if you want, but the meaning is the same. I'm not gonna repeat myself over and over and say the same thing.

Also, if everyone is gonna start pairing ika and I up again, I'm gonna get irate. Just because we know each other IRL and are very good at figuring each other out in these games does not mean we are the same person. Read us differently.

And I will not sit here and be the focus of numerous interrogations either while other people who have barely spoken, get to set back and do nothing. That's another thing that frustrates the hell out of me in these games. The active people get scumread and the under the radar people stay that way.

Silverwolf wrote:rabbit-Why are you defending MP?

rabbit8 wrote: When ika started bullying MP you thought MP was being defensive? So pilling on was acceptable in your opinion, because what you believe is helpful is truth? Because your philosophy and MP's differ you accuse him of being scum? Do you think defensiveness is only characteristic of baddies (scum, mafia)?

Silverwolf wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:This is very typical of ika's town play. He tends to hyper post a lot as town and ask people to vote him if they suspect him. It's not a solid townread, but it's an indication he's playing as town right now. I realize it's far too early to have that set in stone.

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:rabbit (and anyone else wondering), everything ika has said and done is characteristic of practically every game I've spectated or played with him. There's no reason to town or mafia read him yet, at least in my opinion.

Why are you spending so much time trying to make sure no one gives a read on ika? This seems very odd.

Silver, why do you think you're allowed to explain to us how ika plays and MP can not share his sentiments?

This seems very odd.

I already explained what I thought MP was doing. I never said he can't explain his sentiments. He came in here and told everyone that ika is always like this and not to read him any certain way which just looks like he's trying to inhibit reads. This behavior continued for a good part of his early game, where he was unusually adamant about people not having reads or giving reads this early. It made very little sense as town play because he's shutting down discussion and anyone from trying to get reads. So yeah, I called him out on that.

Silverwolf wrote:Name one thing I've done this game so far that can make you so certain I'm scum. One thing in my behavior or motivation this game that gives you such a sure scumread. Go for it. I have caught scum trying to mislynch me in several games before so if that's your angle, I will find that out soon enough. But you better talk about it and not avoid me. I want reasons for your suspicion or like I said, I'll just push you back until I find out if you are scum trying to mislynch me or woefully misguided town.

rabbit8 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:This is very typical of ika's town play. He tends to hyper post a lot as town and ask people to vote him if they suspect him. It's not a solid townread, but it's an indication he's playing as town right now. I realize it's far too early to have that set in stone.

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:rabbit (and anyone else wondering), everything ika has said and done is characteristic of practically every game I've spectated or played with him. There's no reason to town or mafia read him yet, at least in my opinion.

Why are you spending so much time trying to make sure no one gives a read on ika? This seems very odd.

insertnamehere wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:No MP, the theory is sound. In fact was likely happening if this is civ on civ. Is the post really helpful? I don't know. But if you're a civ, and ika is a civ, then it would be helpful for a baddie to say something there. INH had already said his peace and bowed out. That post felt out of place after that.

To be honest, I don't understand how encouraging MP and ika to cool down and concentrate on other stuff would conceivably help the baddies, if as you say, both of them are civilians.

I guess I don't really get your reasons for suspecting me.

ika wrote:also can you clarify on "your delivery" i dont understand the context there.

i wont be around to respond to anyhtig said to me till later

insertnamehere wrote:Can we address the fact that the baddies are probably sitting back and laughing their asses off right now?

ika wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Are you upping your post count be replying to every post with a new post, Ika?

Multi-quote?

its easir for me to do post by post cus theres no buttion for multi quote

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote: SIlver: got any more reads?

I don't except leaning scum on MP and slight town on you. I'm usually pretty slow to develop reads right out of the gate and need to get into a game for awhile before I can do that.

I'm not sure I'm deserving of a townread right now from you or anyone. I've hardly even gotten into this game yet.

ok. silver is now super town. i would never see her make the underlined as scum. she would of been super happy with me town reading her as scum

ika wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

I might, I might not. I have no idea. I have never played with a lot of players in this game.
Why are you offering to link to past games if you don't care?

I play more of a gut game too. I like your style so far.

cus its open for interpritation onw hat people think, im glad i have another gut user. what do your guts say right now

Silverwolf wrote:This is very typical of ika's town play. He tends to hyper post a lot as town and ask people to vote him if they suspect him. It's not a solid townread, but it's an indication he's playing as town right now. I realize it's far too early to have that set in stone.

How often does he throw out the this is my town game in the first 3 pages?

prob almost alwyas

Silverwolf wrote:This is very typical of ika's town play. He tends to hyper post a lot as town and ask people to vote him if they suspect him. It's not a solid townread, but it's an indication he's playing as town right now. I realize it's far too early to have that set in stone.

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:rabbit (and anyone else wondering), everything ika has said and done is characteristic of practically every game I've spectated or played with him. There's no reason to town or mafia read him yet, at least in my opinion.

Why are you spending so much time trying to make sure no one gives a read on ika? This seems very odd.

ika wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:read lsit
so metalmarsh can be town
sig is obvious scum right now
MP i would lynch as well.

to do list
silver needs to eb sorted soon.
figure out names meta, relookign its null

For what reason? Nonsense.

"Guts" you say. Unless you can back up any of your assertions with reasoning (such as "this post made me feel good about so and so because...", even if the reason is very minuscule), then I won't be treating your early reads with any weight, with all due respect.

congradulations you did scum tactic 101, discrediting. you should know by my games i have played here already this is how i always play

This is how you always play?

Never like seeing this defense thrown out so early.

No guts, no glory, though.

then you can start by voting me when thats possible

i can link the game si have plaed here and prove that i really dont care anyways

Silverwolf wrote:This is very typical of ika's town play. He tends to hyper post a lot as town and ask people to vote him if they suspect him. It's not a solid townread, but it's an indication he's playing as town right now. I realize it's far too early to have that set in stone.

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:read lsit
so metalmarsh can be town
sig is obvious scum right now
MP i would lynch as well.

to do list
silver needs to eb sorted soon.
figure out names meta, relookign its null

For what reason? Nonsense.

"Guts" you say. Unless you can back up any of your assertions with reasoning (such as "this post made me feel good about so and so because...", even if the reason is very minuscule), then I won't be treating your early reads with any weight, with all due respect.

congradulations you did scum tactic 101, discrediting. you should know by my games i have played here already this is how i always play

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Because I'm interested, and failed miserably. If you haven't posted, read the rules, carefully, if you're a civvie of course.

Tatakai!

insertnamehere wrote:Excited to get crackin'! So, who here has seen the original show, and based on it, what is the smart move to take here?

sig wrote:First!

I'm ready to have a repeat of my EST mafia performance but will probably fail horribly and be lynched. :P

linki: I've got my day 1 vote already planned.