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Ambray wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:51 pm In terms of Rabbit and I interactions - not gonna like but I avoid addressing Rabbit directly like the plague unless I have strong feelings - dude frightens me.
I need to go and read what was said against Illy again. I feel like the way mafia is played has changed a bit in terms of how suspicions are raised - leaving me a bit confused!
Is nova a relatively new player? Their recent posts sound scripted?
linki
Him maybe, me no. I know why I have accessed him here.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:56 pm You guys appear to be bleeding into two different games.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:05 pmit wasn't a defense, it was an explanation, you were acting confused about my vote explanation so I tried to help by clarifying the context of my choice.
not scared. i don't like wasting my time or energy, and trying to get SVS to back off of a conviction is almost always that.Are you scared of debate with trains?
I know, you've been pretty forward about pushing that angle since yesterday. Do you really believe that or do you just see me as low hanging fruit?Also, in case it is less than clear. I assume you're bad.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:46 pmyeah.
Look, yesterday was a stressful day. I'd barely been paying attention in this game and then suddenly I'm having to come up with 2 players more suspicious than my biggest town-reads who was about to be lynched. I wasn't able to do that within the timeframe that I had to do mafia stuff that day so instead I ended up trying to convince SVS to reconsider her case and move her vote. In retrospect that was probably the worst idea I've ever had since SVS is the debate equivalent of a freight train.
Thank you. But this will be his response...Ambray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:40 pmWtf this makes zero sense kyle. You think lynching someone you think is civ is the lesser of two evils?Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:39 amI made it clear my vote for Nutella was despite her possibly being a hinted civ role. This.... isn't really new information, rabbit. I didn't vote for Nutella because I thought she was bad, I voted for her because her lynch seemed like it would be the lesser of two bad things.rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:27 am
Referring to nutella as a civ after the fact.......
Can you expand on this?
On my phone, so hope this comes out ok.
Becasue him making zero sense means I don't understand his nonsense even though he believes it to be true.....
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:39 amI made it clear my vote for Nutella was despite her possibly being a hinted civ role. This.... isn't really new information, rabbit. I didn't vote for Nutella because I thought she was bad, I voted for her because her lynch seemed like it would be the lesser of two bad things.rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:27 am
Referring to nutella as a civ after the fact.......
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:50 pmIt's not important rn but this is an inaccurate portrayal of my playstyle. I have never been known for slinging thoughts without restraint, not since like 2010rabbit8 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:01 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:21 pmwell i obviously love you, but i didn't see your line of questioning as being something I could personally contribute to so i opted instead to wait and see how other people responded to it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:10 pmIt's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.
Why do you need other’s opinions of things to make your decisions? I’ve always seen you slinging your thoughts out there without restraint. But now?
Did you though?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:47 pmI just said it doesn't?
My mind is going. The other day I made coffee. Hours later I asked my wife if it was old.....
No. Does it?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:44 pmTheir vote being where it is had no impact on why mine is there. Should it?
You side with JC and Lorab?
I knew i, I thought I had more time. lol. I'm almost finished.
Say what? I fucking hate to defend SVS here, but huh?Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:38 pmdisagreeing with you doesnt make me mafiaS~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:32 pmSrsly, and I am not the only one it seems.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:28 pmthe only player allowed to argue semantics with me is epignosis. you're looking down a tunnel at Speedchuck where you're only seeing how his actions make sense in a baddie's perspective. there are other perspectives, can you really say you're considering them all?
because speedchuck isn't jack and being right about jack several months ago in some random game doesn't make you more or less likely to be right about Speedchuck in a different game.Plus the last time I felt like this about Jack in (I forget the theme, he was Nutellas teammate) and I kept dropping it becasue "tunnelvision" and I was right, he was bad. So if I think I am right, then why would I not be true to myself.
seriously svs?So if I could not vote for Chuck, I might vote for you. Just being honest here. Give me some names, Kyle, and it might change.
And I know he isn't Jack, my point was that I doubted my self and I should not have. And I know what tunnelvision is, this is not it.
tunneling is assuming you're right about something and ignoring all evidence indicating that your opinion might be wrong.
I have 4 more pages to catch up on. brb
Kyle, bad?Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:28 pmthe only player allowed to argue semantics with me is epignosis. you're looking down a tunnel at Speedchuck where you're only seeing how his actions make sense in a baddie's perspective. there are other perspectives, can you really say you're considering them all?
because speedchuck isn't jack and being right about jack several months ago in some random game doesn't make you more or less likely to be right about Speedchuck in a different game.Plus the last time I felt like this about Jack in (I forget the theme, he was Nutellas teammate) and I kept dropping it becasue "tunnelvision" and I was right, he was bad. So if I think I am right, then why would I not be true to myself.
seriously svs?So if I could not vote for Chuck, I might vote for you. Just being honest here. Give me some names, Kyle, and it might change.
Your vote is on DF?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:21 pm Tbh Nova and DF have the scent of that random player who gets chinese fire drill lynched at the end of day because the actual candidates manage to somehow wriggle themselves off the hook that results in everyone posting "oh dang" and such after the day is over.
For once can we lynch someone that it takes balls to lynch? I often daydream about just somehow convincing half the thread to vote Jimmy or Sloonei just because it's so random that it's likely to work. All the same old players always getting knocked off gets boring.
But srsly, the lack ofLoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:21 pm rabbit8 Eye me all you want.
And yes, a non-poster who was voting, and coming in at the right time to vote, was suspicious enough to me day one to vote there.
In the meantime, I'm voting Chuck for the moment. In part because I don't have a bad read on LA and would rather see someone I suspect be lynched.
is 
This guy I get a weird indy killer feel too, TBH. 
Still pushy as ever.
Not gonna lie, I’m only quoting this because in all the years of annoying the fuck out Illyria, I think this first time I got her to fucking laugh. Boom. I’m done with mafia, sorry all my goals have been reached.Illyria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:50 pmI am! I late and I am sorry. I forgot about this and I feel terrible. Okay, I think I am caught up now.
The what now??
Also, what does it mean that "The lynched will flip. The NK will not" I feel so out of practice right now. Also BOTD??
Huh. One, he does a few times, and that quote made me LOL for real. I dont remember the Buffy Bot being a thing.. Let me check. Could be part of Spikes secret role tho. He is the one who gets her made?
Agreed on the Mayor, I am most concerned about Glory, but the Mayor is next on my list.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:52 pm
This actually makes sense to me. In all honesty, I missed that the vampires could recruit Spike. But still, I'm not sure why single him out, of all the indies. As you say here, the Mayor can take a civ away from the civ numbers. In all fairness, I'm going on show knowledge--but I'm guessing the Mayor is more dangerous than Spike.
I still have an eyeball on you, but I'm less suspicious of you than I was last night.
It is interesting. The Day post made me think of The Master, but he is not listed. The opening post mentioned the Hydra Monster thingie. We saw the multi headed beast in end of S1 with the Master and again in S3 with the Mayor. I dont know if this is helpful or not but those were my thoughts when I read it.
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
. I mean I remember this shit from Wigly....... No! no I'm not that old. Never mind, forget it.There’s no valid excuse to ever vote for me.
JC It’s so hard to believe this. But I want to, because you’re JC, so… Just sayin I’m unsure of you and I usually think civ.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:16 pmI have played with Dr. Wilgy before but it's been a long time since I played a true mafia game with him (not Chicka Chicka) and I just can't speak to how he posts from personal experience. I'd have to go back and look. (Wilgy, if you can tell me a game where you were good and one where you were bad I will look at your posts at the beginning of those games.) I just think the potassium nitrate (or was it sodium nitrate?) post being his only post doesn't say a lot about him being civ. I still haven't decided where my final vote will go.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:40 pmJuliets have you never played with Dr Wilgy before? I thought his wildboy tendencies were well knownjuliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
I also didn't realize Wilgy's sodium nitrate post was his only post.
Yeah…. I assume JJJ call shit like this that. Unfortunately at this point I think so. And I’m not likely to change this post later so if I contradict myself later, Sorry JC,MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pmIf Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
I don’t know Rabs..LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:59 pm Keeping an eye on Lapluie for now--the excited sounding comment raised an eyebrow, but I don't know them or how they write, so I'm also not sure. I want to hear more for them, for sure. And sig I'm just keeping an eye on for now.
I'm currently tempted to vote for Loop. I hadn't noticed that they had voted in the first poll and not posted at all. And that they chose House of Wax, of all the choices, is odd. I mean, that doesn't seem like it could possibly be a positive choice. I mean, someone new could not understand that the vote likely means something...but then why vote at all. And if it were a truly random choice, why not come on and say that. It reads much more like a situation where they got their pm, saw where they should vote, went to thread, voted, and then either left or read the posts and didn't konw what to say.
hehe. Seems weak, this vote. So he would, Knew it. The fucking point of a rainbow list is? I mean, that’s the same shit, no? Same as GTH head and all this crap you guys do. I’m so confused. Almost no natural discussion. Some many tests and shit. Then like, I just wanted to see what he would do defenses. Ohhh. I’ll catch up to the new trends damn you.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:05 pmPlayer Salad is a thing Jay says when players talk about or mention a bunch of players they might vote for or suspect all at once, I think the idea is that doing it allows a mafia voting flexibility later on.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:53 pmI don't know what that means...MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pmIf Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
Ehhh, huh? No, just no. Is this an actual thought you had? I usually see things the same way you do.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers? Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:05 pmPlayer Salad is a thing Jay says when players talk about or mention a bunch of players they might vote for or suspect all at once, I think the idea is that doing it allows a mafia voting flexibility later on.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:53 pmI don't know what that means...MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pmIf Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
See what I mean, I agree.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:35 pm Timmer and LoRab are really raising my hackles with their votes.
Damn it, I agree with Sig, here. Still don’t make him a civ. But I’m not eyeing him as much.
sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:37 pm Also I'm surprised juilets is voting for Jack, he's inactive now yes, but in general he's a strong townie. Lynching him for being inactive seems a tad preemptive.
Wilgy hasn't been as Wilgy like, but that's not a reason to vote for him.
linki: That also seems like a meh reason to vote for someone.
Hum……
FEB, but not really. I haven’t gotten that vibe yet.
WTF? I give up I thought I was going to hate this guy. But you fucks got stuck with someone at least as bad as me while I was gone, and now…..MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:02 pmWhat's to explain? I am speculating that you are teammates?Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?
I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?
explainInteresting. Teammie helping teammie?
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:21 pmwell i obviously love you, but i didn't see your line of questioning as being something I could personally contribute to so i opted instead to wait and see how other people responded to it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:10 pmIt's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.
Hum… the discrediting here.
IDK you look bad in either scenario to me.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:51 pmI realize that if he does flip bad I'll look very bad but I just wanted to give them the botd and give them a chance to post, maybe they're in over their head and haven't really figured out how to get in on the discussion. I don't like lynching new players before they have had a chance to experience the game.timmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:49 pmSeems likely but you didn't move your vote? Interesting if he does flip bad.
I would have voted for Timmer, not totally kidding, more likely lorab though.
sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:24 am I wanted to see how Mac reacted to a vote, honestly it wasn't as fun as I thought it would be.
I was talking about the Indies/Glory as a whole the only reason Spike stuck out was because he could be flipped to mafia. I'm guessing that if he can be recruited to the mafia team he could also be recruited to the civs it even mentions his love for Buffy.
I see no reason to suspect me for anything, if I'm mafia as some are guessing why would I be advertising for spike? The mafia are the ones who search for him not the other way around. I'm just saying he could be a bigger threat then the other independents since we know for a fact he's a traitor role who has two kills. Now I'm not advocating indy hunting, just pointing out the roles aren't inherently prove civ.
Black Rock wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:24 pm
Drusilla - Her dreams will tell her the role of one player of her choosing each night. If she finds Spike, he will join their team.
Spike - He has two anytime kills. He has a modification chip and can’t kill any humans. If he targets a human his kill will fail. His love for Buffy is undying… *secrets* =
Someone mentioned the mayor, I don't think he can become a civ due to this wording.
Black Rock wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:24 pm Faith Lehane - Faith will find out who one player is targeting each night. If Faith tracks the Mayor, she will join him in his Win Condition. *secrets*
This implies Faith will stop being a civ and become an independent with the mayor.
Dude, I'ma catch up by tonight and post some drunk wild theories. Maybe. Or I'll fall asleep trying to catch up and will likely still think shes bad, cause, ~~~~~~S~~~~V~~~~~~S~~~~~. That may or may not be a secret code.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:47 pmSVS has since made a lot of posts. So how you feel about her now?
You Spike?sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:42 pmLorab gets some early civ points for this post.LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:01 am Looking at the poll (thanks google):
Full Metal Jacket, Xander references the movie (Life taker, heartbreaker) when greeting Riley when he returns to Sunnydale. Also, a Vampire says to Spike who is attacking him, "What's your malfuncion, man" which is also a reference.
House of Wax: Plotline of the original could connect to various buffy story lines, but can't find anything in particular that stands out. And none of it looks remotely good.
New Jack City: There's a "I never liked you anyway" connection, but that's a pretty common line, I think. Spike says it to Buffy.
Wayne's World: Both have a "Noah's Arcade"--it's where the Trio brings a kidnapped Willow and Buffy confronts them. Also, Wayne's World ends with a whole Scooby Doo thing, and the Scooby Gang is, well, the Scooby Gang.
That was not so helpful. Although almost fun. I'm sure I'm missing obvious things. Or, Rock Con are just messing with us with random movie titles. I feel like I'm missing references, though.
linkitis:
kyle: You don't have to watch it all at on
LA: Google coupled with a buffy knowledge. But yes, mostly google.
What does everyone think about the Independents? I'd say Glory is a top priority to kill for all players, followed by the mafia, and maybe Spike. I do think its possible Spike has the type of role where he can also become a civ, it could be something along the lines of he searches for Buffy every night and if he finds her they get BTSC and he becomes a civ, which would be nice. However, we've got no way of knowing if that's the case so I think it would be safer to lynch him.
Thoughts?
Google sucks and is going to take over the world with Microsoft, Amazon, MacDonald's, GE, Shell, and Hali-berger, and a few other s who have been bought up during the franchise wars.... to form a the mega corp, Thank You Idiots, better known as, TYI Inc.
lol, I like it. But you can easily say you never saw it.
