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by insertnamehere
Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 4

motel room wrote:Here's whats been on my mind -

The silvertongue character can stop a lynch not necessarily "save a person". I don't understand who as town, and silvertongue is town, would have wanted to stop that lynch except for INH. But I want to hear what INH thinks.

If it wasn't him, I don't think silvertongue would have to hide that they had stopped the lynch by contributing to the INH wagon or caring about the EOD tie. Im saying this cos Glorfindel was awfully slow acting (at least what it seemed to me) when he arrived and saw a tie - so I was thinking he could have PM'd the mod then and went to stop the lynch before getting into voting but that doesn't make much sense. So it would be someone off-wagon.

But I want to hear what INH thinks.
what do you want from me, motel room? :shrug:

All I'm gonna say on the subject is that I'm considering randomizing my vote for the foreseeable future.
by insertnamehere
Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:30 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 4

MovingPictures07 wrote:a gigantic black hole of sheer frustration sucking in my soul.
that sounds about right.
by insertnamehere
Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

DharmaHelper wrote:Rainbow lists are dumb and bad
please play again.
by insertnamehere
Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:voting glorfindel

if I die tomorrow, legacy reads are as follows

Lorab: scum
motel room: scum
glorf: scum
indi: civ (spooky, scary, I know)
wilgy: civ

literally everyone else I feel biased against.
If you come back

Why is your read of indiglo spooky scary? You haven't mentioned her at all yet from what I can see.
I empathized with her frustration, and nothing against her seemed at all compelling to me. I said that this was a "spooky scary" read because other than myself, she was the person generating the most heat at that point in the thread. Not agreeing with the other popular case that could potentially overtake the one against myself wasn't a smart move, and I knew that at the time. But it was my read, and this was at the point of the meltdown where I didn't care what other people thought.
by insertnamehere
Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 5

So.

Let me attempt to clear the air here.

Frankly, I'm ashamed of what I said in the thread, and would honestly prefer for it to be deleted. I hope to move forward for however long I'm in the game in a much more relaxed manner.

I could explain that this was in the middle of a schedule-packed part of my life, but that's an excuse. There's really not a great reason for what I said. It was stupid, petty, and dumb.

I'm catching up with the thread now, and will comment on anything that grabs my attention.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:18 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

voting glorfindel

if I die tomorrow, legacy reads are as follows

Lorab: scum
motel room: scum
glorf: scum
indi: civ (spooky, scary, I know)
wilgy: civ

literally everyone else I feel biased against.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

i'm going to watch some asmr videos and then go to sleep before I have an aneurysm.

I don't know how much I'm going to be able to be present tomorrow. Please don't lynch me.

Or hell, lynch me.

It'd probably be the better move for my overall health and wellbeing.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:10 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If you ignored this stuff and spent your time hunting I'd trust you more.
Oh [expletive] off.

When I was 5, my brother was placed in a special needs class. When I was 12, I got into my first fist fight, beating up some kids who decided to call him the "R-word".

I interned a summer at a mental health facility. I've read multiple books about the stigma surrounding mental health, and I try to make it a big part of my life to deflate these hateful misconceptions that arise through stereotypes and derogatory language.

That being said, this is fucking retarded. It's the dumb cop out to end all cop outs.

It made my fucking skin crawl like hell when you pulled this shit on Quin in Red V Blue, and it makes my fucking skin crawl now. This exact kind of attitude is why mafia is becoming more and more physically painful for me to play.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:03 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

This whole post reminds me of Donald Trump denying and lying his [expletive] off during the debates, and getting away with it scot-free because the moderators and Hillary simply don't have time to fact check each ridiculous statement they say, only glossing over it with a "that's false."

It's 9:40, I've already been banging my head against my computer to the point where I'm beginning to see bone. I honestly wasn't supposed to be posting for hours and hours, I had actual stuff to do this evening, but instead I've been desperately trying to respond to all of the fecal matter people have been throwing at me, all the while, people just keep chucking more fecal matter.

It's like this game has evolved into a massive conveyer belt that everyone but me is defecating onto and expecting me to eat every morsel. Me being the too-easily-invested chump that I am, I keep scarfing it down. But the defecation just keeps coming and coming, and at this point, I've got to slow down or else it's going to cause me physical harm.

Naturally this is when Lorab decides the drops a post which reads like a fucking scavenger hunt. The things that Lorab wants me to quote for her are in orange.
LoRab wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
LoRab wrote:So, you still suspect me, but you can't go after me why, exactly? I have mixed feelings about you. You run hot and cold for me. You aren't my top suspect right now. :stare: Because it will look bad? See previous answer. Because you don't think you can get a bandwagon going right now? You sure do love making me say things I didn't say, don't you?

Why exactly do you think I am bad?
I don't think you're bad. I don't think you're good either. Look up the word ambivalence in the dictionary, why don't you. I'll wait.

This is also the third BS leading question you've asked me, and you've only gotten through four!


Also, you never answered any of my posts where I defended myself. Nor have you answered any of my posts which accused you--other than saying that I suspected you for reasons that had nothing to do with what I suspected you for.

I'm sorry that I haven't responded to every post you've made. If I have time to circle back and address your old suspicions of me after addressing everyone else's new suspicions of me, I'll do so. But I only have so much mafia time in the day, and I already have a ton of BS to sift through.
(1: Time where I said the word "ambivalent") I don't need a dictionary--you hadn't used the word ambivalence before. Nor do I think that ambivalence was your intent--except for the fact that I think you're making a false case against me and know full well that I'm civ--because you're not.

I don't expect a response to every post I make, or every post that mentions you. Yes, you do. (2: Time where I responded to a quote by Lorab addressing me.) But a response to ANY post addressing you would be nice (prior to this, obviously.

(3: Time when Lorab found my playstyle suspicious and said that she suspected me.)Your posts about me say that I suspected you and had posts about play style, which is patently untrue. Come to think of it, in your responses to Sloonei, that wasn't something you addressed. (4: It's clear that Lorab's fishing for something, but I have no idea what. Maybe times that I talked about playstyles to Sloonei?)

And even your response to me right here doesn't address the fact that I didn't do what you say I did--nor do I suspect you for the reasons you seem to think I did and do. (5: Times when Lorab says what I say she did, whatever Lorab seems to think that means.) (6: Times when Lorab suspected me for the reasons I think she did or does?)

With every post, I become less and less hesitant about lynching you. It must not feel great, being a wrong person all the time.

linkitis: He didn't say that the only reason to suspect you was because you voted for me--nor did anyone else. (7: Times when Sloonei, or at least I'm assuming "he" is Sloonei, or anyone else found me voting for Lorab suspicious D3.)Again, you are misrepresenting the reasons that people suspect you, trying to paint them as unfounded and silly, when there are many reasons that you are suspicious. That is why you have so many votes.

Wouldn't it be more fun for you if you just admitted you were bad and played with us in the thread for the next 24 hours? Honestly?
Your defenses make you read increasingly mafia, so maybe just admit you're a FEB this game.

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linitis 2: Where did I say that anyone's posts had no value. Please quote where I did that. (8: Times when Lorab stated or implied that my posts were valueless.)And what about my case against you doesn't seem genuine?
I may go through Sloonei's, Lorab's, and my own post history trawling for each and every counterpoint that Lorab must have or else she'll have a [expletive] conniption, but alternatively, fuck that.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:37 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

motel room wrote:Help us out if we're wrong. Do you have any opinions on anyone else? Wanna suggest scum is driving this lynch?
Dom wrote:INH-- who should I vote for if not you?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Who should we lynch, INH?

Ignoring my posts while ostensibly "responding" to them and subtly saying that I'm doing jack to further the civ cause, ironically because I'm actively trying to prevent the lynch of a civilian, while setting me up for further attacks?

One suave [expletive] move, that's for sure.

In fact, 3J pulled the same exact move earlier to completely dodge having to respond to anything I said, and I fell for it.
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Pretend you have a vigilante shot right now and you must use it on this Night 3. Who gets shot?
Glorfindel. He came into this game very buddy-buddy with you and proceeded to mainly ignore the growing suspicion from your end. I think he still wants to pretend you two are simpatico. Looking at the Lorab voters, he's the one who strikes me to be the hobo hitching a ride on the bandwagon.

Given that there are five LR voters, and I can safely remove myself and Elo from the pool of suspects, that leaves me with Sloonei, Wilgy, and good ol' Glorf.

Sloonei strikes me as sincere, Wilgy is Wilgy being Wilgy like only Wilgy can be, and Glorf has done nothing to dissuade any of my suspicion.

I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
This post only gave everyone more ammunition for their mass INH stone throwing.

But, fuck it, I'm gonna walk right into this trap the exact same way again.

Glorfindel. Seeing as I've spent the last two hours responding to wall posts and daggers in the front from most of the player list, it's been kinda hard for me to scum hunt considering that I only have a limited amount of time for mafia, and I was supposed to go the gym an hour ago. I've been getting my workout grinding my teeth at what's become of the thread. Most of my opinions have to do with the people who've spent extensive time attacking me. Those same people are now reading this post with palpable glee that I fell for the exact same move again, and quickly preparing their wallposts about how utterly meaningless and empty the way I play mafia is. Glorfindel isn't sitting right for me, and nothing I've read over the past few hours has changed that.

So, basically, neener.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:23 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

Quin wrote:
Quin wrote:Am I the only one who keeps getting 503 errors on the syndicate? If it's a me problem, anyone know how to fix it?
I think there might be *some* issue somewhere, because now the syndicate just won't load anything. :disappoint: Are you aware of any issues with the server, MP? Or is it entirely on my end?

Going off the past three pages I've read, INH is currently reminding me of a bad marmot in RoTTK who stuck entirely on the defensive when he started taking votes. I'll vote him for now, pending an ISO when my internet sorts itself out.
i apologize that me desperately not wanting to be lynched is making you want to lynch me
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:22 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?
insertnamehere wrote:I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
So, I take it you now think LoRab is good?
I still think Sloonei's case makes sense, and I don't think any of my points against her were discredited, but I find it hard to justify going after her head after Elo flipped bad to the bone. So right now my opinion of LoRab is in limbo, and I'd rather target and investigate other suspects.
If you like my LoRab case so much, might I recommend my case against insertnamehere? I think it is every bit as good if not more!
I feel like this picture can describe 5 or 6 people in this game
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Which 5 or 6?
off the top of my head?

you
3J
Sloonei
Lorab
Dom
MP at times
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I didn't say any of that, so this post means jack shit to me.
now you know how I've been feeling. Shame I'm not a confirmed civ, and actually have to address every post to somehow prevent myself from being lynched.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

Aaaand now I've caught up to the new [expletive] that's piled up against me after the point that I started responding to the old [expletive].
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:He's also employing Why Me defenses (complaining that the case against him also applies to other people). This was another tell that I learned in that tournament.

Starting to feel it.
why do those only come from scum?
They don't. I think it's scum at a greater-than-random rate though. It's a bad defense, frankly, and the baddie benefit is pretty easy to identify -- it simultaneously weakens an argument against them and directs attention to someone else. It doesn't actually mean they're innocent of anything, or that they actually defended themselves substantively. It's a tactic.
You constantly conflate "baddie tactic" and "ways to shift attention off of themselves".

I'm desperately trying to shift attention off of myself and onto other people. I realize my quintuple posts and in-thread hysterics may not accomplish that, but it's what I have in mind. Because I'm a civilian, despite what everyone else will tell you, and I find the fact that I'm the only one with more than one vote terrifying. If you'd let me pull the ol' Lee Harvey Oswald, I'd like to acknowledge my own patsy-ness.

I also mean it genuinely. I genuinely don't know how all of these people convinced I'm playing the game wrong want me to play. Exactly like them, I suppose?
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

Glorfindel wrote:
motel room wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:I have some recollection of someone expressing concern at my vote at the end od Day 3 so I'm happy to address that matter here. By the time I got on here, EoD was imminent and after skimming the recent posts at that time, the leading wagons were Elohcin and LoRab with a minor wagon on Sprityo. I wanted my vote to count for something and felt compelled to make a judgement between Elohcin and LoRab. Whilst the result turned out well for us, I never really could see the validity of the argument against Elohcin (I thought the assertion that she NK'd Epi on the basis of their personal relationship - two mature, intelligent long term members of this site unable to separate their Mafia gaming activities - to be frankly bordering on the absurd) and I was enamoured by Sloonei's case against LoRab and placed my vote accordingly. Without having checked back, I'm certain that I said as much at the time I voted.

Clearly, I was wrong about Elohcin and in retrospect (after reading LoRab's comprehensive defence) am beginning to feel I may have been wrong about her too. I am still however, firmly convinced that Sloonei is Town and that he may have just mistaken on that occasion - it happens to the best of us.

I'm off to dinner, be back shortly.
Do you always talk like this, dragonslayer?
Talk like what, my friend?

OK, I'm out for the day. Will check back when I can...
I mentally go back and forth with every post on whether I find Glorfindel's specific speech patterns endearing or slightly disconcerting.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:09 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

PART TEN OF "WHAT DID I EVER DO TO SLOONEI IN A PAST LIFE TO DESERVE THIS"
And then this:
insertnamehere wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?
insertnamehere wrote:I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
So, I take it you now think LoRab is good?
I still think Sloonei's case makes sense, and I don't think any of my points against her were discredited, but I find it hard to justify going after her head after Elo flipped bad to the bone. So right now my opinion of LoRab is in limbo, and I'd rather target and investigate other suspects.
What points did you make against her, if you don't mind me asking? Because again, and I'm sorry if this is more arrogance from me, it looks like your vote was a complete piggybacking of the case that I made against her. You introduced no new points of your own against her as far as I can see.
I disliked her attacking people for their posts being "of no value" in her subjective opinion. I also disliked her case against me, and didn't think it was genuine. Were either one of those points you made against her?
Sloonei wrote:That apology probably appears to be unnecessary snark. It is not. The apology is sincere. I don't want to appear like I'm dominated by ego, but it was an observation I couldn't ignore.
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by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

Sloonei wrote:But wait, there's more!
mother[expletive]...
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:INH, do you think Zebra and Mac are bad?
I dunno. :grin: In my eyes, Zebra looks more opportunistic than Mac. Criticizing me for being wishy washy and influencing people in the wrong direction after self-voting and loudly proclaiming her own aggressive ambivalence isn't a good look. Don't get me wrong, I don't think ambivalence isn't some no-fail scumtell, but I consider hypocrisy to be as close as you can get in this game.

Do I want to vote for her D4? I dunno. Ask me on Day 4.
Pretend you have a vigilante shot right now and you must use it on this Night 3. Who gets shot?
Glorfindel. He came into this game very buddy-buddy with you and proceeded to mainly ignore the growing suspicion from your end. I think he still wants to pretend you two are simpatico. Looking at the Lorab voters, he's the one who strikes me to be the hobo hitching a ride on the bandwagon.

Given that there are five LR voters, and I can safely remove myself and Elo from the pool of suspects, that leaves me with Sloonei, Wilgy, and good ol' Glorf.

Sloonei strikes me as sincere, Wilgy is Wilgy being Wilgy like only Wilgy can be, and Glorf has done nothing to dissuade any of my suspicion.

I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
This post is a bit of a head scratcher and he seems a bit inconsistent. Glorfindel is scum because he's hitching a ride on the LoRab bandwagon. Okay. So are you.
But it's stupid to think that someone who votes for LoRab is scum. Because you did it, and you don't want to be suspected for it? But surely there's somebody on that wagon who's scum. And it must be Glorfindel. I'm not saying that's not a valid suspicion; we should all treat Glorfindel with the same level of skepticism that I am treating INH with right now. But in this post, INH seems to have one foot in both camps. It's not a good idea to call him suspicious for voting LoRab, but it is okay to call Glorfindel suspicious for voting LoRab.
I never said it was stupid to find me joining the case against Lorab suspicious. I just think that having that as the sole reason for suspecting me, and ignoring all other people who made ill-fated moves on Day 3 is short-minded. I personally think that out of the Lorab D3 voters, Glorfindel is the most suspicious. Then again, I think every point people have against me other than the undeniable truth that I didn't vote for Elo is poppycock.

I should just print out a giant picture of my face and send it to you, Sloonei, so you can cut open a mouth flap and shove as many words through it as your heart's desire.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Sloonei wrote:Here is his eulogy for Epignosis. I usually perk up when I see things like this. I see it as filler or fluff content, saying something for the sake of saying something. "Oh look, a townie died. For shame, they will be missed." It does nothing. And then what really bugs me is that later on, INH will try to pass this off like it's a substantive, game-related reaction to Epi's death and not just empty words:
insertnamehere wrote:
LoRab wrote:Curious to see what Zebra and INH have to say now that Epi was killed by mafia. And highly unlikely, in a speed game, that mafia would kill one of their own night 1. So....wanting responses there.
I don't believe either me or Zebra called Epi mafia. We just wanted some kind of explanation for his D1 vote, and his pussyfooting around it was aggravating.

Plus, I already responded to his death here:
insertnamehere wrote:Epignosis went out like he played: frustratingly. RIP, and I wish you elected to answer a single question before you left this mortal coil. Guess it doesn't particularly matter now.
There ya go.

Now onto Rico's text wall.
It's pretty clear that LoRab is looking for some sort of analysis out of INH/zebra here, but INH instead says "What do you mean? I already did that!" and links us back to his eulogy. As if that's an analysis. And then we're supposed to move on to the next topic.
Here's the quote you railed against without quoting
insertnamehere wrote:Epignosis went out like he played: frustratingly. RIP, and I wish you elected to answer a single question before you left this mortal coil. Guess it doesn't particularly matter now.
I know this is somehow the new scum "secret phrase", but I'm increasingly unaware of exactly what in the [expletive] Sloonei wants from me. Let me restate the ignored context for the fifth [expletive] time, because I have to explain the same old [expletive] for what feels like the umpteenth time. Epi refused to explain his extremely late in the day vote switch. I pressed him on it. He was then killed. I posted this after he was killed.

The, by this point, days old post that I'm having to explain for the third or fourth time, was me admitting that I was barking up the wrong tree, but still wondering exactly what Epi didn't want to say. I assumed Lorab was attempting a "gotcha" moment, and wanted me and Zebra to admit that we were doing something wrong by questioning Epi. I pointed him to this post.

That's, what, the tenth time today you've belittled the content of my posts with hollow scoffing and heaps of "as if that's an analysis." Pardon me for making your monocle pop out with the complete lack of value within my posts, Sloonei.

And now I can actually move onto other posts without Sloonei slapping me in the face with "YOU DIDN'T RESPOND TO MY CASE"
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

i'm going full macdougall tonight
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:37 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

I just realized that if I'm lynched today, Jay's new meta civ read of me will be: hypocritical new-method-hating player who's easily lynched and says dumb things.

I don't know if I find that more annoying or sickly funny.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:35 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

Spoiler: show
insertnamehere wrote:The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.
I learned my lesson that time that INH did indeed mean to say "worse" instead of "worst" here, but that still doesn't answer the question of why Epi's vote change on Day 1 was suspicious. I'll quote myself: "he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall."But what really gets me about this post is this post later on where he claims to have never called Epi scum. LoRab's response sums it up well enough:
LoRab wrote:You didn't explicitly accuse him, true. But you implied suspicion. And to say, yeah--i didn't really suspect him, and he was just frustrating, quite honestly, doesn't make you look all that good.
Why is INH trying to back away from the reality of his read on Epignosis? I genuinely don't know what he's doing here, but it looks shady and I see no reason for him not to own his suspicion
Jesus [expletive] Christ, this is the fifth time I've explained what I meant by this mother[expletive]ing post, and every [expletive] time people ignore that and post the same exact bull [expletive] about it.

(expletives deleted in hopes of having a civilian-esque "tone")

Alright. Let me break down my own feelings for you, instead of you breaking them down for me. When I say that I find something someone suspicious, I don't mean that I find the person doing the suspicious thing scum. A scum read is more serious and takes more to earn from me than a simple "that thing you did there was suspicious". Your entire "thing" against this one post basically amounts to you thinking that my way of having reads is inherently false or scummy, and you simply cannot accept the mental distinction that I personally have between "suspicious action" and "this dude's scum". Maybe it's different for you. But, unfortunately, I don't play the exact same way as you, and you find that discomforting.

I know that you'll just ignore this post, and continue making the same damn assumptions, but I'm masochistic enough to still want to put forth an effort to stay in this game.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:22 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
Replies: 4518
Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Sloonei wrote:To kick off the INH discussion for today, I'll re-open my Day 2 case because he still has not really addressed it.
Spoiler: show
insertnamehere wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
motel room wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote: This.

Rico has set up a very risky system here. He's intentionally put a massive target on his back. If neither Rico or Mac are bad, all the mafia has to do is kill Rico, and they get a free lynch of Mac. This same logic gives Mac a smokescreen to hide behind if he is, in fact, bad. In both scenarios, Rico = Dead N1.

It seems like such a categorically poor move for Rico that it essentially leaves me with two options. A. He has some sort of secret info or an ulterior motive for voting Mac Day 1. B. He knows for sure that the target on his back won't hurt him because he's scum.
Uhhh

Free lunch!
This was from yesterday, on my phone on the train. Epi had the most concise cut-down of the rico\mac bickering and this bloke appeared to piggyback off it, but with an odd confident "two option" stance which I was not a fan of.
Care to elaborate on why you aren't a fan?
Just like, the vibe. Mabo.
Welp. :sigh:
I do not like either of INH's posts in this exchange. I think the explanation motel room gives initially is sufficient enough to get a follow up response out of INH if he wants to provide one, but instead he just ignores it and asks him to elaborate. To be fair, motel room doesn't really do this, but I still think there's enough there for INH to work with if he really wants to defend himself here. Instead he just sighs and moves on. It gives me a vibe of a player who's not prepared to defend himself against what may be a genuine accusation.
What the fuck do you want me to say when someone says they aren't a fan of the "vibe" of my posts? I don't play based on "vibes" myself, and I've always had a hard time understanding "vibe"-based gameplay. I can't say "FUCK YOUR SUBJECTIVE FEELINGS ABOUT MY POSTS THEY'RE WRONG". All I can do is acknowledge the bad "vibe" comment and hope that he doesn't badly "vibe" any of my comments in the future. In my subjective opinion, people sharing their subjective opinions and not much else don't constitute "accusations" and I have no idea how to counter "your posts feel bad to me" other than saying the obvious observation: "no they don't."

For a second I thought that my mafia opinions, defenses, and thought processes weren't inherently inferior to everyone else's. Thanks for reminding me of my own ineptitude, Sloonei. It's a real help.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

Glorfindel wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:INH, do you think Zebra and Mac are bad?
I dunno. :grin: In my eyes, Zebra looks more opportunistic than Mac. Criticizing me for being wishy washy and influencing people in the wrong direction after self-voting and loudly proclaiming her own aggressive ambivalence isn't a good look. Don't get me wrong, I don't think ambivalence isn't some no-fail scumtell, but I consider hypocrisy to be as close as you can get in this game.

Do I want to vote for her D4? I dunno. Ask me on Day 4.
Pretend you have a vigilante shot right now and you must use it on this Night 3. Who gets shot?
Glorfindel. He came into this game very buddy-buddy with you and proceeded to mainly ignore the growing suspicion from your end. I think he still wants to pretend you two are simpatico. Looking at the Lorab voters, he's the one who strikes me to be the hobo hitching a ride on the bandwagon.

Given that there are five LR voters, and I can safely remove myself and Elo from the pool of suspects, that leaves me with Sloonei, Wilgy, and good ol' Glorf.

Sloonei strikes me as sincere, Wilgy is Wilgy being Wilgy like only Wilgy can be, and Glorf has done nothing to dissuade any of my suspicion.

I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
I'd like to take issue with this post on a number of levels. I utterly reject the assertion that I "came into this game very buddy-buddy with you (Jay)". Unlike some others, I do my best to treat everyone I encounter in these games with the utmost respect and Jay is no exception. In the short time we've been playing together, I'm satisfied in his ability to read me accurately and for what it's worth, yes, I do admire him greatly for his ability in these games. Indeed I would assert that your accusing me of this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black:
insertnamehere wrote:THOUGHTS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RICOCHET OR MAC:

I'm liking Neil Hartley a hell of a lot. I'd really appreciate if his agent, JaggedJimmyJay, could continue booking him for the foreseeable future.
One quote where I post that I like 3J's roleplay does not a buddy make.
As for my LoRab vote at the last EoD, I have addressed this matter in my last post, I trust it will allay your concerns.

I note also that you ranked me in the very middle of your yellow/amber reads on only Day 2 and then after you come under heat from a unanimous GTH reading today, you post this accusation against me. Personally, I don't think this is a particularly good look at all.
That rainbow list was before Elo flipped scum. And the accusation was prompted by 3J asking me if I had to kill one person right now who I would target. Just adding the context you decided to ignore.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:01 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

Sloonei wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?
insertnamehere wrote:I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
So, I take it you now think LoRab is good?
I still think Sloonei's case makes sense, and I don't think any of my points against her were discredited, but I find it hard to justify going after her head after Elo flipped bad to the bone. So right now my opinion of LoRab is in limbo, and I'd rather target and investigate other suspects.
If you like my LoRab case so much, might I recommend my case against insertnamehere? I think it is every bit as good if not more!
I feel like this picture can describe 5 or 6 people in this game
Image
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:What do you want from me, Sloonei?
Digging back I found this old classic line.

Putting my vote on insertname for now.
Oh damn. I didn't notice that.

I said that in the champs finale and got roasted. I was bad. I haven't personally observed this as a trendy baddie comment, but I know numerous good players who consider it gospel.
What's the logic behind that attitude / question coming from a more likely mafia than town mindset?
I'll explain my own circumstance from that game for context:

I spent pretty much the entire game under fire from one source, the player coolkid (eventual tournament champion). I fought him at every turn for days and days, never backing down, trying to stay poised under intense pressure. Eventually I dropped that bomb, not realizing it would be a mistake: what do you want from me, man?

It helped change my scenario from "JJJ under pressure" to "JJJ in the noose".

The argument they made against me, which was probably accurate, was that the question represents a sense of desperation wrought of the wrong mindset. They see a baddie who is fighting tooth and nail for every inch of breathing room in the thread, desperate to earn town reads. It was the symbolic cracking of the JJJ eggshell -- no longer was I showing an earnest interest in reading the motivations of my detractor, but instead I was revealing that what I really wanted most was for him to change his mind. That's more scum than town.
Pardon me for wanting to change people's minds when I'm fighting tooth and nail not to get mislynched by 90% of the damn thread.

I apologize for not being able to write 10 ISO's and 20 analysis posts in the time that I have to spare for mafia. That must mean I'm a shitty player who doesn't have the right priorities, I know. But people are also criticizing me for not addressing every single post written against me, so I'm doomed if I do, doomed if I don't.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:52 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

MovingPictures07 wrote:I do think that INH's interactions with Elo looked worse than most. I could potentially get behind it, even if my gut is resisting hard.
the tiniest violin in the world is playing to accompany your "moral struggle" over joining the damn near universal bandwagon against me, MP.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:50 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:What do you want from me, Sloonei?
Digging back I found this old classic line.

Putting my vote on insertname for now.
Oh damn. I didn't notice that.

I said that in the champs finale and got roasted. I was bad. I haven't personally observed this as a trendy baddie comment, but I know numerous good players who consider it gospel.
I was watching that game, that's where I picked up looking out for it.
He's also employing Why Me defenses (complaining that the case against him also applies to other people). This was another tell that I learned in that tournament.

Starting to feel it.
why do those only come from scum?
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:50 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:What do you want from me, Sloonei?
Digging back I found this old classic line.

Putting my vote on insertname for now.
great. you think a random fuckin' quote is enough. What makes this quote a 100% scumtell?

And better yet, what do I have to correct my tone enough so that you don't jump down my throat every time I make a comment? Oh wait, was that too mean and negative? We all know that only scum get agitated when they're constantly hounded by BS cases and constant suspicion. Nobody's ever heard of a civilian getting ticked off having to eat fecal matter each time he checks the thread.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:46 pm
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Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

LoRab wrote:So, you still suspect me, but you can't go after me why, exactly? I have mixed feelings about you. You run hot and cold for me. You aren't my top suspect right now. :stare: Because it will look bad? See previous answer. Because you don't think you can get a bandwagon going right now? You sure do love making me say things I didn't say, don't you?

Why exactly do you think I am bad?
I don't think you're bad. I don't think you're good either. Look up the word ambivalence in the dictionary, why don't you. I'll wait.

This is also the third BS leading question you've asked me, and you've only gotten through four!


Also, you never answered any of my posts where I defended myself. Nor have you answered any of my posts which accused you--other than saying that I suspected you for reasons that had nothing to do with what I suspected you for.

I'm sorry that I haven't responded to every post you've made. If I have time to circle back and address your old suspicions of me after addressing everyone else's new suspicions of me, I'll do so. But I only have so much mafia time in the day, and I already have a ton of BS to sift through.
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:33 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

I'm four or five pages behind, and I already have 5 votes.

This is going to be a fun catch-up, I can tell already.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:29 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

Scotty wrote:Oh, you know. Just have to catch up on 50 pages of shit.

You people talk more than the voices in my head. That's disturbing to me.

Gman who did I replace?
Spirityo, yo.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:22 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?
insertnamehere wrote:I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
So, I take it you now think LoRab is good?
I still think Sloonei's case makes sense, and I don't think any of my points against her were discredited, but I find it hard to justify going after her head after Elo flipped bad to the bone. So right now my opinion of LoRab is in limbo, and I'd rather target and investigate other suspects.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Day 4

lookie who's apparently confirmed
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:INH, do you think Zebra and Mac are bad?
I dunno. :grin: In my eyes, Zebra looks more opportunistic than Mac. Criticizing me for being wishy washy and influencing people in the wrong direction after self-voting and loudly proclaiming her own aggressive ambivalence isn't a good look. Don't get me wrong, I don't think ambivalence isn't some no-fail scumtell, but I consider hypocrisy to be as close as you can get in this game.

Do I want to vote for her D4? I dunno. Ask me on Day 4.
Pretend you have a vigilante shot right now and you must use it on this Night 3. Who gets shot?
Glorfindel. He came into this game very buddy-buddy with you and proceeded to mainly ignore the growing suspicion from your end. I think he still wants to pretend you two are simpatico. Looking at the Lorab voters, he's the one who strikes me to be the hobo hitching a ride on the bandwagon.

Given that there are five LR voters, and I can safely remove myself and Elo from the pool of suspects, that leaves me with Sloonei, Wilgy, and good ol' Glorf.

Sloonei strikes me as sincere, Wilgy is Wilgy being Wilgy like only Wilgy can be, and Glorf has done nothing to dissuade any of my suspicion.

I think it's stupid to think that Lorab voter = scum, but it's also naive to think that there wasn't a last ditch effort from Toecutter's gang to save their eponymous member.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:53 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:INH, do you think Zebra and Mac are bad?
I dunno. :grin: In my eyes, Zebra looks more opportunistic than Mac. Criticizing me for being wishy washy and influencing people in the wrong direction after self-voting and loudly proclaiming her own aggressive ambivalence isn't a good look. Don't get me wrong, I don't think ambivalence isn't some no-fail scumtell, but I consider hypocrisy to be as close as you can get in this game.

Do I want to vote for her D4? I dunno. Ask me on Day 4.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:43 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

motel room wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?
insertnamehere wrote:I did what I thought would best benefit the civilians. :shrug:
insertnamehere wrote:I guess I'm checking to see if all you people have against me is anger about me thinking Lorab was scummier than Elo, and that's enough to put me at the top of everyone's hitlist going into Day 4. If there's nothing else, I guess I'll just go back to my bunker and bury my head in the sand.

I can't change what I thought, all I can do is confirm that I indeed thought it.
"us people" might also have your language and tone against you too
Welp. Same deal.

All I can offer you is an apology that you find my language and tone so distressing.

Hopefully the way I say my words doesn't offend you in the future.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

MacDougall wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I didn't expect INH to sweep the baddie reads. That's interesting. He has fallen from grace more than perhaps anyone else.
:disappoint:

Never trust someone who hates the movie Persona. To be honest, I was never really graceful in the first place, what with the Sloonei/Epignosis kerfuffle.

I really don't like how Zebra and Mac sold me out quicker than a sack of potatoes at a farmers market. It looks like they realized that we were all on the same leaky boat, and they tossed me out to slow down the sinking.

I'd like to try and get some reasoning as to why I'm apparently now the unanimous baddie choice. Specifically, stuff that A: Mac and Zebra aren't both already guilty of, and B: don't stem from me being noncommital about Elo. I'm noncommital about 90% of players. That reads scum for most people, but I personally find super duper strongly held beliefs to be more fishy than more moderate stances. As bisexual agnostic, I do feel I need to speak up from time to time to fiercely defend my right to ambivalence.
I "sold you out" because your engagement around the lynch was the fishiest, to the point where you even asked me to vote for Lorab over the deceased now confirmed Mafia player.
Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?

No, but I am entitled to feel suspicious of you because of it aren't I? Or are you saying your behaviour was so civvie that for me to read it as potentially bad is dumb dumb wrong?
I guess I'm checking to see if all you people have against me is anger about me thinking Lorab was scummier than Elo, and that's enough to put me at the top of everyone's hitlist going into Day 4. If there's nothing else, I guess I'll just go back to my bunker and bury my head in the sand.

I can't change what I thought, all I can do is confirm that I indeed thought it.
Good. That's alright then.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:36 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

MacDougall wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I didn't expect INH to sweep the baddie reads. That's interesting. He has fallen from grace more than perhaps anyone else.
:disappoint:

Never trust someone who hates the movie Persona. To be honest, I was never really graceful in the first place, what with the Sloonei/Epignosis kerfuffle.

I really don't like how Zebra and Mac sold me out quicker than a sack of potatoes at a farmers market. It looks like they realized that we were all on the same leaky boat, and they tossed me out to slow down the sinking.

I'd like to try and get some reasoning as to why I'm apparently now the unanimous baddie choice. Specifically, stuff that A: Mac and Zebra aren't both already guilty of, and B: don't stem from me being noncommital about Elo. I'm noncommital about 90% of players. That reads scum for most people, but I personally find super duper strongly held beliefs to be more fishy than more moderate stances. As bisexual agnostic, I do feel I need to speak up from time to time to fiercely defend my right to ambivalence.
I "sold you out" because your engagement around the lynch was the fishiest, to the point where you even asked me to vote for Lorab over the deceased now confirmed Mafia player.
Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?

No, but I am entitled to feel suspicious of you because of it aren't I? Or are you saying your behaviour was so civvie that for me to read it as potentially bad is dumb dumb wrong?
I guess I'm checking to see if all you people have against me is anger about me thinking Lorab was scummier than Elo, and that's enough to put me at the top of everyone's hitlist going into Day 4. If there's nothing else, I guess I'll just go back to my bunker and bury my head in the sand.

I can't change what I thought, all I can do is confirm that I indeed thought it.
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:32 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

MacDougall wrote:What is it that you are apparently guilty of that Zebra and I are also guilty of?
Going hard after Rico and being non-commital about Elo.
Because I flipped on you solely because you were pushing the Lorab lynch at extremely crucial moments where it could have gone either way. That is starkly in contrast to what I did.
You asked if you should flip over to Lorab a few minutes before the end of the vote. I said yes, as I suspected Lorab more than Elo.

I did what I thought would best benefit the civilians. :shrug:
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:29 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 126053

Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

MacDougall wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I didn't expect INH to sweep the baddie reads. That's interesting. He has fallen from grace more than perhaps anyone else.
:disappoint:

Never trust someone who hates the movie Persona. To be honest, I was never really graceful in the first place, what with the Sloonei/Epignosis kerfuffle.

I really don't like how Zebra and Mac sold me out quicker than a sack of potatoes at a farmers market. It looks like they realized that we were all on the same leaky boat, and they tossed me out to slow down the sinking.

I'd like to try and get some reasoning as to why I'm apparently now the unanimous baddie choice. Specifically, stuff that A: Mac and Zebra aren't both already guilty of, and B: don't stem from me being noncommital about Elo. I'm noncommital about 90% of players. That reads scum for most people, but I personally find super duper strongly held beliefs to be more fishy than more moderate stances. As bisexual agnostic, I do feel I need to speak up from time to time to fiercely defend my right to ambivalence.
I "sold you out" because your engagement around the lynch was the fishiest, to the point where you even asked me to vote for Lorab over the deceased now confirmed Mafia player.
Because I thought Lorab was bad, and I harbored doubts about Elo's alignment.

Is having incorrect opinions now illegal?

by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I'm not seeing angry civ Zebra reactions either. I am seeing Zebrad.
You're seeing what you always see which is what you want to see, not what is visible.
So what am I wrong, or bad? Because this post says I am wrong. And if I am wrong then I am a civ and for you to know I am a civ makes you bad.
something something "I know you are what am I?"
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:22 pm
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Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I didn't expect INH to sweep the baddie reads. That's interesting. He has fallen from grace more than perhaps anyone else.
:disappoint:

Never trust someone who hates the movie Persona. To be honest, I was never really graceful in the first place, what with the Sloonei/Epignosis kerfuffle.

I really don't like how Zebra and Mac sold me out quicker than a sack of potatoes at a farmers market. It looks like they realized that we were all on the same leaky boat, and they tossed me out to slow down the sinking.

I'd like to try and get some reasoning as to why I'm apparently now the unanimous baddie choice. Specifically, stuff that A: Mac and Zebra aren't both already guilty of, and B: don't stem from me being noncommital about Elo. I'm noncommital about 90% of players. That reads scum for most people, but I personally find super duper strongly held beliefs to be more fishy than more moderate stances. As bisexual agnostic, I do feel I need to speak up from time to time to fiercely defend my right to ambivalence.
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:53 pm
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Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 3

Well! Glad to be wrong. BIH Elo.
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:41 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

unfortunately, when I went to school, there were only classes in understanding Vompatti. :why:
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:05 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Sloonei wrote:Dom once again sits out the lynch.
dom riding the MP train like
Spoiler: show
Image
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:01 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Sloonei wrote:
motel room wrote:Switching to Elo then
This guy and his deciding vote.
He does like to freak everyone out by changing his vote, doesn't he?
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:59 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

MacDougall wrote:Should I switch to Lorab?
yes
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:58 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

this is dangerous tie territory folks
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:27 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

voting Lorab for now.
by insertnamehere
Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:25 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

At this point, I'd be more likely to vote Lorab than Elo. I don't necessarily think that SVS was killed for some elaborate Elochin frame job, but Lorab's opportunistic bandwagon hoppery with him jumping on both my case and Elo's out of nowhere gets my goat to a larger degree than the case against Elo, which has gotten pretty stale over the days with less and less new evidence coming out against her.

Lorab is someone on my list of people I had planned to ISO, that I haven't gotten around to yet. Idk, maybe I'm just biased because he went after me for, in my subjective opinion, less than reasonable reasons.

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