The Syndicate

INSERTNAMEHERE 2014

Voted for the obvious best choice

Spreadsheets are for pussies and the weak.

*munches on popcorn*

We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions of the World

And we mean to go on and on and on and on

I've done my sentence
But committed no crime
And bad mistakes
I've made a few
I've had my share of sand
Kicked in my face
But I've come through

I've paid my dues
Time after time

Anyone else want to bet on who Zodac is going to choose to eliminate? I say Mongoose, or maybe Hedgeowl.

thellama73 wrote:Spread the vote out all crazy? I don't see that as being a winning strategy.

Heh.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:A Person was on a team.

What team would be crazy enough to let him do the shit he did?

That's what is on my mind.
I've had a thought or two about this myself. I know a few people from RM such as Kate, JC, Rey, who would absolutely not let any of their teammates go full out whackadoo. Dom is someone I also don't think would stand for that kind of nonsense. The only real players I think would tolerate or encourage that sort of flippancy are like, Lizzy/Vomp :P

My guess is that A Person probably paid as much attention to them as she did MP. Which is to say, none at all.

Look people, I know mafia involves reading, and apparently that's too much for some people, but I really expected better from you people. This is a game for goddamn champions.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:If he comes back as an indy though, I will be going after Epig. Very, VERY hard.

lol wat?

Dom wrote:
Loud Noises wrote:
Dom wrote:Attention Whore, if you're so civvie minded, why aren't you talking about who you think is bad, but rather, making sure all discussion is squandered?
Seeing as I've killed more baddies then anyone else in the game, I'll give it a shot. A Person being bad makes me really suspect her two compatriots, Vomps and Lizzy. Lizzy has been actually participating, and coming off pretty civ, but Vompatti is barely posting. And when he does post, it's the same vague BS he always does. Seeing as that's really all we have to go on makes him my top suspect right now.
really? how many baddies have you killed?

AP failed at the Lou Reed curse, causing him to be modkilled, and he was a baddie.

Dom wrote:Attention Whore, if you're so civvie minded, why aren't you talking about who you think is bad, but rather, making sure all discussion is squandered?

Seeing as I've killed more baddies then anyone else in the game, I'll give it a shot. A Person being bad makes me really suspect her two compatriots, Vomps and Lizzy. Lizzy has been actually participating, and coming off pretty civ, but Vompatti is barely posting. And when he does post, it's the same vague BS he always does. Seeing as that's really all we have to go on makes him my top suspect right now.

thellama73 wrote:
[redacted] wrote: You do realize that he was saying that I literally cannot be lynched today, right? And if you continue down this path, we'll have another day where the discussion is all about me, and not about baddies.
I realize he's saying that. I don't see much reason to blindly accept that as truth.

thellama73 wrote:
Epignosis wrote: The poll doesn't close until tomorrow evening, and people are coming in here, not reading the thread, and voting now?
I've read the thread. I think it's pointless to speculate about the ways the roles may have been altered for balance. I have no more reason to trust you than anyone else. And I think your argument requires me to take a lot on faith. So I am voting for the person I trust least and most want to see gone. Sue me.

You are blindly accepting that Zodac won't be an issue. Someone's a wee bit of a hypocrite, eh?

Dom wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:Rather than drag this out any longer, I am just going to vote for [redacted]. He's basically outed himself, and he continues to be doing what he can to keep attention on him which is distracting to the nth degree.
T H I S

Epignosis wrote:
Except he won't go.

Why are people voting for him?

Listen.

1. MovingPictures07 just said the Night closed when it closed.

2. The individual you voted for is pretty much neutered now that A Person is gone (unless anyone else decides to start being cute).

3. If Zodac targeted him, you will wind up lynching someone else. In other words, you could be voting for yourself.

The poll doesn't close until tomorrow evening, and people are coming in here, not reading the thread, and voting now?
#1) Why do you assume that Our Lovely Friend here is telling the truth about everything? He reads as very desperate. He reads as clinging onto whatever shred will save him.
#2) So let's say we don't lynch him today. Tomorrow, do we lynch him? Do we ever lynch him? Do we let him completely derail the thread forever? We haven't had any real discussions about anyone else.
Epignosis wrote:Furthermore, we basically just had a bonus lynch. A potentially revelatory one at that.

And people are coming in here voting for an outed, neutralized independent?

Do YOU know his win condition, Epig? Why do you trust him????
I'm not claiming to know his win condition, but I am saying that you trust him far more than you should. It makes zero sense to trust him, even if his win condition is what he says. He has totally derailed the thread.
Why do you trust him?

You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on

You do realize that he was saying that I literally cannot be lynched today, right? And if you continue down this path, we'll have another day where the discussion is all about me, and not about baddies.

I haven't said what my role is.

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
[redacted] wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Okay, this thread has gotten complicated and I am busy and unlikely to be much less busier tomorrow. All of this talk and speculation about indie roles has the potential to lead me into analysis paralysis, so I am going to go ahead and vote for [redacted.] I know I don't trust him. I know I want him gone. That is enough.
Thinking too much makes my brainy-wainey hurt too, Llama.
I'll be so sorry to see you go.
Except he won't go.

Why are people voting for him?

Listen.

1. MovingPictures07 just said the Night closed when it closed.

2. The individual you voted for is pretty much neutered now that A Person is gone (unless anyone else decides to start being cute).

3. If Zodac targeted him, you will wind up lynching someone else. In other words, you could be voting for yourself.

The poll doesn't close until tomorrow evening, and people are coming in here, not reading the thread, and voting now?

It's time to play my favorite game: Idiocy, Laziness, or Malice?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
A GAME OF CHAMPIONS

So what does this mean?

3. Just because you're out doesn't mean it's over.

Zombie me is gonna fuck all of y'all shit up.

thellama73 wrote:Okay, this thread has gotten complicated and I am busy and unlikely to be much less busier tomorrow. All of this talk and speculation about indie roles has the potential to lead me into analysis paralysis, so I am going to go ahead and vote for [redacted.] I know I don't trust him. I know I want him gone. That is enough.

Thinking too much makes my brainy-wainey hurt too, Llama.

Everybody does know that it's a 48 hour poll, right?

DharmaHelper wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Hey Doge would you like to be bestfriends

wow
such mafia
very champion
much cooperate.
wow.

Sure bestie!

You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on

I thought we really had something.

That transcended the game, and the site.

I thought we'd grow old together.

DharmaHelper wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Hey Doge would you like to be bestfriends

wow
such mafia
very champion
much cooperate.
wow.

Sure bestie!

You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on

Fuck you!

Bullzeye wrote:I think today the best thing I can do is to copy my previous vote. I just don't believe we can trust him to stick with the civs and think on the whole it's best if we just eliminate the threat outright.

*Votes X*

Weekenders on our own
It's such fun

Nobody is even mentioning Zodac, are they? Are they even reading the thread.

Flyin' High wrote:I love being reminded I'm playing a game hosted by MP.

RIP in pieces Mr. Sinister Exaggerator.

I agree that some players seem to be making a lot of assumptions about how roles may or may not have changed.

Rather than drag this out any longer, I am just going to vote for [redacted]. He's basically outed himself, and he continues to be doing what he can to keep attention on him which is distracting to the nth degree. If he truly had civvie intentions I honestly don't think he'd continue to post the way he's been posting.

Not even referencing the Zodac situation, are you?

DharmaHelper wrote:Hey Doge would you like to be bestfriends

wow
such mafia
very champion
much cooperate.
wow.

You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on

Sure bestie!

Don't say I didn't warn you...

Kate wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Kate wrote: You completely ignore that this was mentioned in the thread with hours til night end and his power could have been switched, IF THAT IS HIS POWER in this game (which is not a FACT).
I think it'd be reasonable to assume that Zodac's power is still pretty much the same as it used to be, with just a slight tweak if necessary to make it fit better in the game. I can't think of a role on the list that has drastically changed from what it first was.

Just a perfect day
Problems all left alone

I'm never going to be able to listen to this song now, I'll associate it with having to post its lyrics in this game all day.
Maybe reasonable, but not a fact.

Begone with your reasonable assumption that actually use logic! We have no room for that here!

Kate wrote:"Facts?" What you say in the thread does not qualify as a fact to me.

Let's review.

Zodac was a role in Masters of the Universe Mafia.

His role could siphon votes from someone to someone else.

He was a LMS indie in that game.

Zodac is in this game.

He is an indie.

He most likely has that same power in this game.

Everyone has pretty much condemned me, and said that they are going to vote for me.

Unless Zodac was SVS, he's probably going to try and use this situation to his advantage.

Those were all facts.

Kate wrote:I'm willing to take the chance I guess. I don't trust the person to whom I am speaking and I think this continued baloney days in a row is just going to run the game off its rails. Plus its annoying. *Votes*

I will be quiet for the next few days most likely. I dont get a lot of time to play on the weekends and we have a 3 day one coming up...and you guys talk a LOT!

You don't have to trust me, just look at the facts.

Kate wrote:
juliets wrote:I am worried about the specter of Zodac in this vote today. Given how he operates I have to believe he picked Media as one of his two people last night and god knows who as his other person (thanks Epig for the explanation of the role). So, I feel better waiting to vote for Media until the 3rd day. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave me with a great candidate to vote today. I'm considering one of the VAL's but I'm not totally convinced anymore that Lizzie is bad, and I'm not sure about Vomps or A Person either.

On the other hand, maybe I'm worrying too much about Zodac. Maybe he would just kill Media and we'd be done with it. How are the rest of you feeling that are considering a vote for Media? Mongoose, I'd love to hear your thoughts but you are really constrained with respect to being able to discuss freely. Maybe you could try and I'll see if I get it. Everyone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
I am so epically far behind, but I'm going to post this now and then keep reading because I'll forget it later.

Why is it more likely that Zodac picked that guy for day 2 than it is that he is holding off for day 3? And how is it that we are so sure that Zodac has the same ability in this game as he did in his former game (He-Man, IIRC)? If the post from Epig came right at dawn and day was over, I think i'd be more on board with this but it didn't...and furthermore it was followed by an extended night to get PMs in per MP. I know not the whole next day but for a while. I guess I'd rather go with what seems like a sure thing than to shoot fish in a barrel and have a repeated day 1.

This theory just has a lot of holes in it, it seems.

It's a simple choice. Vote for me, and there's a very likely chance that someone important will be killed. Or don't vote me, and move on to catching actual baddies. As long as you don't say my name, I'm pretty much powerless.

Kate wrote:
juliets wrote:I am worried about the specter of Zodac in this vote today. Given how he operates I have to believe he picked Media as one of his two people last night and god knows who as his other person (thanks Epig for the explanation of the role). So, I feel better waiting to vote for Media until the 3rd day. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave me with a great candidate to vote today. I'm considering one of the VAL's but I'm not totally convinced anymore that Lizzie is bad, and I'm not sure about Vomps or A Person either.

On the other hand, maybe I'm worrying too much about Zodac. Maybe he would just kill Media and we'd be done with it. How are the rest of you feeling that are considering a vote for Media? Mongoose, I'd love to hear your thoughts but you are really constrained with respect to being able to discuss freely. Maybe you could try and I'll see if I get it. Everyone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
I am so epically far behind, but I'm going to post this now and then keep reading because I'll forget it later.

Why is it more likely that Zodac picked that guy for day 2 than it is that he is holding off for day 3? And how is it that we are so sure that Zodac has the same ability in this game as he did in his former game (He-Man, IIRC)? If the post from Epig came right at dawn and day was over, I think i'd be more on board with this but it didn't...and furthermore it was followed by an extended night to get PMs in per MP. I know not the whole next day but for a while. I guess I'd rather go with what seems like a sure thing than to shoot fish in a barrel and have a repeated day 1.

This theory just has a lot of holes in it, it seems.

I highly doubt that MP would just change the role into something completely different. He generally keeps a roles major powers, and alters little things about them. Zodac has to choose someone to siphon votes from everyday. Why wouldn't he choose me, the only person people have been talking about for the last 2 days? Of course, we don't know if he held off until tomorrow, but we have no way to know if he did or didn't.

A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*
Are you kidding me?
No, insternamehere, I am not.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with insertnamehere
You aren't going to pull an Epignosis, are you?
I already quoted his post once.

feed animals in the zoo
You just keep me hanging on

Quotes don't count.

A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*
Are you kidding me?
No, insternamehere, I am not.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with insertnamehere

You aren't going to pull an Epignosis, are you?

A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*

Are you kidding me?

Bullzeye wrote:
He who must not be named wrote:MP changed the role so that if I got an absurdly large amount of mentions, I'll get all of the powers at one time. I don't think he seriously expected me to get that much. That's why half the players are spouting Lou Reed lyrics. One of those powers is the ability to randomize all night actions, but I get to exempt three roles. As I said before, I chose myself, Zodac, and Moriarty.

My win condition is compatible with pretty much everyone elses. Including civvies, baddies, and BOBies. I don't want to completely reveal it, just to be safe with MP.

You guys have two options relating to me.

A: Vote for me, and hope that Zodac didn't choose me. If he did, he also probably chose someone major and important to eliminate. Epig, what was his win condition in Masters?

B: Don't vote for me. I walk free until the next day.

Rinse and repeat.

Do you really want to possibly sacrifice someone major and important just to get rid of me? While I'm flattered, if I were in your shoes, I'd think it wasn't worth it, mostly because as long you don't mention my name, I have no powers.

Also, wonder why I wasn't NK'd? Everyone's talking about me. I'm dominating the discussion. Leaving the thread no time to possibly sniff out baddies.

You guys have to make a decision. Vote me, hope Zodac didn't choose me, and possibly lose a big contributor to the thread. Or don't mention my name, and you guys can actually focus on catching baddies and bad indies.
It'd be lovely to have a powerful indy we could trust allied with the civs, but how do we know we can trust you? You're a threat to whoever you want to be a threat to and if you decide to not want the civs to win late in the game there's not much we can say against that.

Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on

I really honestly don't have that much power. Most of it is insanification or self-preservation stuff. The only real big stuff that I have is the night actions redirect, and now that the cat's out of the bag, I doubt I'll get enough mentions to get it again.

RE: Trust
You can't really trust me. You can't really not trust me. I'll win with anyone, I just have to stay alive long enough. I harbor no ill will towards the civvies, nor do I have any incentive to screw over the civvies. Same thing with the baddie teams, and the evil indies.

I can never understand insane-speak.

juliets wrote:Is Lizzie saying that the first 15 players alphabetically - the first half of the players - have been cursed with this song curse? That's what I'm getting out of it.

Yup.

MP changed the role so that if I got an absurdly large amount of mentions, I'll get all of the powers at one time. I don't think he seriously expected me to get that much. That's why half the players are spouting Lou Reed lyrics. One of those powers is the ability to randomize all night actions, but I get to exempt three roles. As I said before, I chose myself, Zodac, and Moriarty.

My win condition is compatible with pretty much everyone elses. Including civvies, baddies, and BOBies. I don't want to completely reveal it, just to be safe with MP.

You guys have two options relating to me.

A: Vote for me, and hope that Zodac didn't choose me. If he did, he also probably chose someone major and important to eliminate. Epig, what was his win condition in Masters?

B: Don't vote for me. I walk free until the next day.

Rinse and repeat.

Do you really want to possibly sacrifice someone major and important just to get rid of me? While I'm flattered, if I were in your shoes, I'd think it wasn't worth it, mostly because as long you don't mention my name, I have no powers.

Also, wonder why I wasn't NK'd? Everyone's talking about me. I'm dominating the discussion. Leaving the thread no time to possibly sniff out baddies.

You guys have to make a decision. Vote me, hope Zodac didn't choose me, and possibly lose a big contributor to the thread. Or don't mention my name, and you guys can actually focus on catching baddies and bad indies.

Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Actually, I got to choose 3 roles to exclude from the chaos. Myself, obviously. Zodac, also obviously. And Moriarty.
Why would you exclude yourself? What would have been the consequence of you NOT excluding yourself?

You do realize that I had more then one power, right?

Actually, I got to choose 3 roles to exclude from the chaos. Myself, obviously. Zodac, also obviously. And Moriarty.

Mongoose wrote:What in the absolute balls is happening around here?

Something wonderful...

Epignosis wrote:Paranoid Android:

I've asked people not to vote for you today.

Morbid curiosity requires me to ask who is the bad guy of the day according to your program. So...who is it?

Elochin, wait she's not on the poll is she?

Hmm...

Wonder what that's about...

birdwithteeth11 wrote:If you're right, Epig, then I'd really like to shake hands with TSE. And perhaps go with him on a date. We'll feed animals in the zoo, then later a movie too, and then home.

But he's paying now.

I'm pretty sure those aren't the exact lyrics, BWT.

Flyin' High wrote:RIPIYWG S~V~S

GYSIYAG, Nev.

AEHRGNBSFDLKBLFDKGMJSDFKGB SVS.

SREDKJGTSKDFNBCXVNBAEPEDGRSEDJGOFDXGXK Nev.

insertnamehere wrote:So, all night actions should be randomized. That'll be fun.

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!

48 hours.

Hedgeowl wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, if BOB doesn't want me, can I join the VAL alliance? Think of all the acronyms! IVAL, VAIL, VIAL, VALI, the possibilities are endless!
You'd have to give up on your crusade against k I think

And give up everything I stand for? Never.

Midget horse that was born with a radiation mutation making it's skin turn yellow, and the little bit of fur it still has left pink, what's your opinion on things?

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