The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:

Scotty wrote:She is continuing to slightly suggest the final 5 all-girls alliance, but is being very soft about it.

That'd only be like, what, the third time on this website?

DharmaHelper wrote:

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.

I don't necessarily agree with that. That wasn't how it turned out when we played Survivor on Rev.

On Rev it was mafia vs. Civs.

Yes but neither of them had a lot of scalps on their record.

What I meant was the people voting had the benefit of trying to pick either mafia or civ. Here, your only benefit is what you did to get to the end.

DharmaHelper wrote:

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.

I don't necessarily agree with that. That wasn't how it turned out when we played Survivor on Rev.

On Rev it was mafia vs. Civs.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.

I don't necessarily agree with that. That wasn't how it turned out when we played Survivor on Rev.

The beauty of it is that no jury member will have the same qualifications for the ultimate survivor. Hell, Epi flat out said if Elo, Opt or (SVS?) make it to the end he'd vote for one of them to win

DharmaHelper wrote:If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:What's going on in btsc today Scotty? Anything good?

Well.

Spoiler: show

Golden found a pile of rocks yesterday that he strung together and made into a fake immunity idol. He hid it in the shallow pool.
Quin, who now has the secret ability to select another day option, went hunting in the shallow pool, because he was notified that a hidden immunity idol was buried. He received it, and is now debating whether or not it is a real idol or not.

Meanwhile, no one has found the real idol sitting in the weeds. DF almost did, but Opt moved DF away. Quin has no idea. He probablt surmises that one of Golden or DF has the idol from the location.

The idol from the original Mamana tribe still hasn't been played either.

As far as BTSC goes, not a lot of people have been on and scheming. SVS and DF found items in the jungle- SVS shared her find with Sorsha and Opt, which is a 1-use message to the thread.

LoRab has suggested to speed to vote out DF, since he seems redundant with everyone healed. Lorab then told Quin that she, Golden and Opt, who are talking at the water well, to vote for INH since no one seems to trust him. With DF as a backup vote. They are apparently concerned that INH found an idol at Exile Island.

When in reality,

Spoiler: show

INH found a clue to where the idol is not. He went searching for it in one of the spots and received an item last night instead which will allow him to add himself to any reward. But no idol.

Anyhow, Quin is getting suspicious that fake idols are a thing in the game. He may be on to slight change in syntax when he found the fake idol. But he doesn't know.

That's the gist right now. Have to go.

Ricochet wrote:

Scotty wrote: Kerosine

Jesus H. Christ, I was hopelessly staring at "kerosen" missing a third e to it for two hours yesterday, with no clue this variant existed.

why is this allowed

fok science

DharmaHelper wrote:Ew Epi is in the jury


Now it's Ponder-gross-a

Scotty wrote:The common dilemma with this challenge is: which words do you submit? Got some long words from multiple people, but they all cancel out. It's gonna be the person that submits all the smaller words worth fewer points that will win this challenge.

DharmaHelper wrote:

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:I didn't see one comment on Epi's death. The jury is going to have a hard time finding behavior to rate, it's all in bts.

Yep, and even then, after looking at that vote spread, it's slightly unorganized in BTSC. There were 5 different people getting votes last night- Quin voted Elo, but his vote was forced to Epi.

Once people that have been engaging in BTSC chats enter Ponderosa, they'll hear more from behind the scenes and how people have been scheming.

That's why I showboated so publicly. Gotta make this show interesting to watch as much as it is interesting to play.

Edit: As JC said, it's going to be very difficult for anyone to make a legit case on why they should win based on BTSC backroom dealings.

Had I made it all the way to the promised land, no one could refute my play because it was out in the open for anyone to see. People are going to have too hard a time selling themselves on backroom stuff unless we see a big shake up and a public display of power.

They must be thinking that their backroom play is influencing people who will be on the jury so there is no need for public play.

Which would be a mistake. I don't see anyone successfully making their case based on backroom dealings, because it's too easy to take credit for things you didn't do, or for someone on the Jury to say "You thought you were this puppet master, but check this out."

The winner's gotta have something concrete they can point to that everyone has seen.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:I didn't see one comment on Epi's death. The jury is going to have a hard time finding behavior to rate, it's all in bts.

Yep, and even then, after looking at that vote spread, it's slightly unorganized in BTSC. There were 5 different people getting votes last night- Quin voted Elo, but his vote was forced to Epi.

Once people that have been engaging in BTSC chats enter Ponderosa, they'll hear more from behind the scenes and how people have been scheming.

That's why I showboated so publicly. Gotta make this show interesting to watch as much as it is interesting to play.

Edit: As JC said, it's going to be very difficult for anyone to make a legit case on why they should win based on BTSC backroom dealings.

Had I made it all the way to the promised land, no one could refute my play because it was out in the open for anyone to see. People are going to have too hard a time selling themselves on backroom stuff unless we see a big shake up and a public display of power.

DharmaHelper wrote:

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Scotty wrote:Can anyone guess the 9-letter Survivor-themed word yet?
Quin did.

No, but I have a few good words I don't think many will have found. For fun we should try and come up with our own lists here. I'll start.

Spoiler: show

Nascent
Ardent
Pioneer
Snide
Reside
Resin
Scion
Sire
Tenor
Done
Redo
Redone
Don't
Kid
Kids
Net
Nets
Sneak
His
Her
Hers
Nice
Rook
Rooks
Crook
Crooks
Race
Racer
Racers
Tropics
Topics
Cadet
Dent
Dents
Cents
Rents
Rent
Cent
Rend
Rends
Render
Trend
Trends
Trend
Opine
Serpent
Asp
Ask
Asks
Asked
Cask
Casket
Cake
Cakes
Caked
Rake
Rakes
Racket
Rackets
Nape
Naps
Nap
Pan
Pans
Paint
Paints
Painter
Painters
Painted
Pain
Train
Trains
Trainer
Trained
Drain
Drains
Drainer
Cane
Caned
Caner
Dane
Danes
Had
Has
Hands
Pane
Scrape
Scraped
Certain
Inspected
Inspector
Detain
Detainer
Coins
Coiner
Coin
Coined
Nicer
Raise
Praise
Raised
Praise
Poise
Poison
Poisoner
Poisoned
Poisons
Ions
Ion
Iron
Irons
Ironed
Card
Cards
Carder
Hard
Harder
Hardest
Carded
Hairier
Cadet
Cadets
Deter
Deters
Entropic
Entropies
Center
Centers
Centered

I wonder how many points that would be worth

If I understand his directions correctly, the letters have to adjoin in the proper sequence so for example p is not next to i even diagonally so you cant get "pioneer", s is not next to c so you cant get "scion" etc.

Well then I'm dumb

But those are all the illegal words I could make after not reading Scotty's instructions yet again.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Scotty wrote:Can anyone guess the 9-letter Survivor-themed word yet?
Quin did.

No, but I have a few good words I don't think many will have found. For fun we should try and come up with our own lists here. I'll start.

Spoiler: show

Nascent
Ardent
Pioneer
Snide
Reside
Resin
Scion
Sire
Tenor
Done
Redo
Redone
Don't
Kid
Kids
Net
Nets
Sneak
His
Her
Hers
Nice
Rook
Rooks
Crook
Crooks
Race
Racer
Racers
Tropics
Topics
Cadet
Dent
Dents
Cents
Rents
Rent
Cent
Rend
Rends
Render
Trend
Trends
Trend
Opine
Serpent
Asp
Ask
Asks
Asked
Cask
Casket
Cake
Cakes
Caked
Rake
Rakes
Racket
Rackets
Nape
Naps
Nap
Pan
Pans
Paint
Paints
Painter
Painters
Painted
Pain
Train
Trains
Trainer
Trained
Drain
Drains
Drainer
Cane
Caned
Caner
Dane
Danes
Had
Has
Hands
Pane
Scrape
Scraped
Certain
Inspected
Inspector
Detain
Detainer
Coins
Coiner
Coin
Coined
Nicer
Raise
Praise
Raised
Praise
Poise
Poison
Poisoner
Poisoned
Poisons
Ions
Ion
Iron
Irons
Ironed
Card
Cards
Carder
Hard
Harder
Hardest
Carded
Hairier
Cadet
Cadets
Deter
Deters
Entropic
Entropies
Center
Centers
Centered

I wonder how many points that would be worth

Scotty wrote:Can anyone guess the 9-letter Survivor-themed word yet?
Quin did.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:So Scotty, anything exciting going on?

I've never seen such a dead thread.

Not a lot. Only have 2 votes in. The "Core" wants Epi out, but there hasn't been a public push yet.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:Cool Scotty thanks. Also, what else is going down in bts? Are people mad at INH for taking the exile?

There's a certain layer of mistrust with INH. LoRab was sickened in night 3, and thinks it wasn't from the night poll, and she thinks it might have been INH.

Spoiler: show

spoiler alert: it was

But INH is not on the chopping block today.

The main core is looking at separating Epi from the herd. He's even told golden that he doesn't care about winning as much as making sure Opt, Elo or Sorsha(I think it was Sorsha) make it to the end. Golden doesn't like Epi's blatant honesty and finds it threatening.

Scotty wrote:Oh, and

Spoiler: show

Quin knows that hidden immunity idol is in one of two places: the ridge and the weeds. So he sent out both DF and Golden to look for them in good faith. Golden found a fake immunity idol that he can hide in a different location tomorrow. DF would have found the idol, but his day poll Option was mysteriously moved to uselessly stoking the fire by Opt, which is her hidden power.

Marmot wrote:It definitely was a Ray Bradbury reference.

Been a long time since I read that book though.

Marmot wrote:Oh look! Something interesting this way comes.

Say hello to the Ponderosa Jury!

DharmaHelper wrote:If sawyer is serious about wanting to go I'm sad that I was booted so early. I never like being lynched/killed before people who don't have their heads in the game.

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:Oh thats great - I'm glad we get to see it (the jury thread). I hate that all the talk is taking place in btsc from the thread peeps.

A lot of this game is made up of hidden information and commitments.

If I were as active as I could be, I'd be relaying that here.

The pitfalls of looking into each BTSC is that, because people are pledging to each other similar final 5, 4, 3 deals, I don't know what they're really planning.

It would seem that Epi and Elo are going to be a threat down the line.
There is talk that Golden, Sorsha and Opt are looking to form a final 3, but Golden has also talked to Quin as if to bring him into the Mamana circle. Quin is throwing SVS to the curb in his convo with Golden.
INH forgot to send in his BTSC requests, so who knows what he's doing.

As of right now, because of the reward on Day 4, only Golden is left sick. When no one is sick, how useful will DF be to the tribe, really?

Could be that original Atamai is about to be picked off one by one unless something happens. If notsawyer goes home like people are suggesting, that is..

Golly jf Quin ends up betraying SVS that might just be the cherry on top of the game.

It's all talk, so who really knows what he is going to do.

juliets wrote:

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

What game was this Marmot?

DharmaHelper wrote:If targeting me was really about the Negan stuff and not because I'm me, SVS and her crew should be targeting Sawyer next, whose avatar has been since Day 1 a picture of Negan's bat.

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

Scotty wrote:So I made a decision to cut off sharing of fish in the merged tribe strictly for balancing purposes. I felt that roles that already gave away fish were undermined and the sense of urgency in acquiring food is simply not there.

I never had sharing of fish as an option, but SVS asked on Day 1 and in the midst of everything, I acquiesced. Then I had to make it a rule across the board since I gave her that option. But because I want there to be more percussive mafia elements in the game, I feel like it's needed for balance.

In case anyone asks.

This game is hard to balance with all the role powers- I mean shit, I threw away probably 20 other roles in crafting this setup- and as far as I can see, I think this is fair for some people.


What's most interesting to me is the roles that have a helpful function but not so much a maligned ability players will want to keep around. Makes sense. But should they keep them till the end? Might make for an easy case to hand them the win, since they were so helpful.

Lots to think about if I were playing. But I'm not. I'm Morgan Freeman. From Evan Almighty, not Shawshank

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Also, had our challenge been for immunity I would have been fine. Had we not been swapped I had Mamana eating out of my hand so I would have been fine.

Like many of the best players, my circumstances undid me.

I agree- you and the rest of the original Mamana tribe seemed pretty tight. If Quin had gone home, and how things unfolded in new Mamana, you all had majority and the rest would have been a Pagonging of sorts.

I really wanted you to stay, but you gotta admit- Quin played you well and you all ate right from his hand. I wish y'all had heeded INH's growing concern. Hell, I wish even he had heeded his own concern. But alas

Scotty wrote:

Marmot wrote:It might be based on the BTSC he earned this past day phase. Everyone was assigned BTSC with someone in their tribe during the day. Epignosis was the odd person out in his tribe, so he was given the option to pick the player he gained BTSC with.

I guess...so...

But he already used that yesterday.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Yeah, this might be a surprise tribal result for Atamai.

I have no idea how Mamana is going to shake out.

If someone they vote for has the immunity idol does that mean nobody gets voted off or the person with the next number of votes gets voted off?

As per the show, the person with the next highest number leaves.

And I guess nobody goes if it's unanimous for the person with the idol? Or is there some other mechanic that happens?

In that case, ties are randomized.

Meaning, anyone with 0 votes will go home

Also...this is a spoiler for what's about to most likely go down, but:

Spoiler: show

insertnamehere wrote:I guess it all seems a little contrived how Quin came into the thread, stirred up a whole bunch of shit out of nowhere, and put a massive target on his back.

Quin wasn't really on anybody's radar until after the Reward Challenge, when he barged in like a bull in a china shop.

And there's a Hidden Immunity Idol nobody knows about...

Connecting the dots, I can't help but feel suspicious of how you guys are acting. I'm worried you're going to take out DH, Elo, or Lorab.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Yeah, this might be a surprise tribal result for Atamai.

I have no idea how Mamana is going to shake out.

If someone they vote for has the immunity idol does that mean nobody gets voted off or the person with the next number of votes gets voted off?

As per the show, the person with the next highest number leaves.

Scotty wrote:Yeah, this might be a surprise tribal result for Atamai.

I have no idea how Mamana is going to shake out.

Scotty wrote:Some shit is going down on Atamai.

I think a hidden idol is being played tonight

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Of course this call and response type challenge falls on a day in which I have early rehearsal, 2 shows, and looking to go exploring.

What the survivors don't know is that the pot contains an idol and whoever picks the pot receives immunity for tribal tonight.

Haha Scotty I'm willing to bet you don't do much 'sploring today. And cool about the idol in the pot. I wondered if both tribes were going to council tonight.

Oh, both are still going to tribal tonight.

Gotta end this game at a reasonable pace