The Syndicate

I'm here currently doing an iso on Lorab so I will be posting in just a little while. As far as i have gone so far I have not seen anything I think is suspicious. She spends a lot of her time on Bubbles and though she might be wrong she is at least consistent.

Matt wrote:
Dom wrote:Your ISO is literally 2 pages from days 5-9.
Your ISO is literally 10 pages long from days 1-5.

Additionally, you have brought up significantly less points as of late. You harped on TH being bad, refused anyone else's input, and didn't want to lynch Glorf. You haven't had a cohesive suspect lists since Day 6 or 7. I have asked for your input on multiple occasions and you only are defensive about me doing so.
I think you're coasting. I think you established a civ persona in thread and are riding it to the end like you did in GoC.
Dom, you seem to forget on March 3rd, another game started (Turf Wars) and I was asked to replace into Rocky and Bullwinkle. Turf Wars has been just about as busy as this game was when it first started, and I had to catch up on 20 or so pages of R&B when replacing in.

You have asked me questions and "my input" on several occasions, each time I answer, and you're like "oh okay cool beans". Then next day, you got something else.

A "civ persona" ? Lol. Can I expect this in every game going forward? "Remember that one time Matt faked his own civ meta to win a mafia game, he must be doing that all the time now!!" Bwahahaha.

Anyway, let me ask you...do you think I'm mafia or an inmate? I'm not either, but this is an important question I want an answer on.

juliets wrote:
Matt wrote:I see Dom replied, but didn't give me any examples of coasting.

DH said he didn't think I was bad and is now making jokes (?) about lynching me.

Lorab and juliets didn't respond to my post at all.

K.
I apologize Matt I don't remember seeing a question. Would you repeat it and I will answer?
Yeah, here you go...

Matt wrote:juliets - You were wondering who brought up the Wayne Manor/Bubbles thing. That was me. Also, yes, I typically like to wait for an exchange before voting someone, but I had no time today. You say I should've voted for someone else. Tell me, who should I have voted for? I was going to have to leave anyway, so whoever I voted for would've had no time to respond. In that position, what is better? Vote for DH, who shot up to my top suspect last night when ISOing him? Vote for a random other player for no reason? Just not vote?
I'd like to know exactly what you think I should've done in my position.

I'm not sure who you should have voted for - whoever was second on your list is what I would have expected. I think I would have voted Bubbles instead but if you believe her to be good you couldn't do that. If person second on your list hadn't had time to respond to the reasons you were voting them then I guess voting DH is all you could do. I just know the first thing I did since it was on day 2 of our two day game day was to look at DH's iso and see that he hadn't spoken since Friday leading me to believe he was likely silenced. Others convinced me though there was nothing else you could do since you had to leave for work and so I didn't vote for you.

Matt wrote:I see Dom replied, but didn't give me any examples of coasting.

DH said he didn't think I was bad and is now making jokes (?) about lynching me.

Lorab and juliets didn't respond to my post at all.

K.

I apologize Matt I don't remember seeing a question. Would you repeat it and I will answer?

Well I was wrong about DF being good or friendly inmate. Thank goodness there were people who saw through his tactics and voted for him. Goodbye DF, I thought you did a good job playing a baddie. After my appointment this morning I will start taking a look at people, though maybe not aloud yet because it's night. I don't want to go through the same thing I went through with this lynch.

I can't even wait up to see the results because I have an appointment in the morning. So good night all I hope this turns out for the best, whatever that is.

Ok I'm voting Bubbles and crossing my fingers. I hated this lynch.

Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm not overly opposed to a DF vote either. I'm essentially ambivalent.
Yes, this is what I'm feeling on DF. I'm actually considering voting myself.
Do you mean voting for yourself or voting for DF yourself?

I was talking about voting for myself because I couldnt come to terms with anyone. But as I said, I will go with Bubbles.

linki Golden I'm not seeing a baddie Lorab and Golden I understand your voting for DF.

linki again, I admit it makes me uneasy that you Golden seem so sure she's good. I think this is going to end in a tie any way we go.

Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:
Dom wrote:The answer is no. She would only have to be around every other phase.
Hmmmm this is true. Dom how do you account for those votes she made for Wayne Manor?
I don't know. That is a weakness that this case has.

Golden wrote:
Dom wrote:I'm not really feeling a Dfaraday lynch, I don't think. The suddenness of the case coupled with the fact that I don't really see why those points make him bad does not sit well with me.

I'd rather lynch Matt or Bubbles or Golden.
I'm not overly feeling a DF vote either, but you can't count on my vote for any of the people you named.
Is there anyone we do agree on?

juliets wrote:I missed MP coming in. He voted Bubbles.
That's where I want to vote but I want to make sure that I can stop DFaraday from being lynched. I really don't think he's bad.

ok, I don't really think he's bad either and at least he participates in the game so I will vote Bubbles if you will.

I missed MP coming in. He voted Bubbles.

Golden wrote:I'm not overly opposed to a DF vote either. I'm essentially ambivalent.

Yes, this is what I'm feeling on DF. I'm actually considering voting myself.

Dom wrote:The answer is no. She would only have to be around every other phase.

Hmmmm this is true. Dom how do you account for those votes she made for Wayne Manor?

Golden wrote:OK, this is interesting... because...

Did anyone else (as with me) get a very simple, unhelpful message when they visited Wayne Manor?

It was a simple message but made about as much sense as the rest of them - same kind of things were talked about.

Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:The one thing about Bubbles that stops me in my tracks when I start thinking she's bad is she voted 4 times for Waynes Manor (wish I could remember who pointed this out). Seems like a mafia teammate would have said "hey, what are you doing you already have the message from there" or they would be involved in a bts discussion on where to vote. This doesn't mean she can't be an inmate though.
I actually wondered if it was a deliberate role hint.

Oh right good point. It's hard to think of any reason why she would do it unless it was something like that. She can't have missed all those pms from the hosts with the links to the messages.

The one thing about Bubbles that stops me in my tracks when I start thinking she's bad is she voted 4 times for Waynes Manor (wish I could remember who pointed this out). Seems like a mafia teammate would have said "hey, what are you doing you already have the message from there" or they would be involved in a bts discussion on where to vote. This doesn't mean she can't be an inmate though.

uh oh - maybe thats not what you wanted.

S~V~S wrote:
S~V~S wrote:MATT
DH
WHY?
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BAREFACEDNESSES
MOONROOF
TOG
GO
MEL

I'm not sure I can decode your second part but here is what Matt said about DH:

Spoiler: show

Matt wrote:Okay. So I went ahead and looked at which locations Nero picked on Nights 0 and 1. Arkham and GCPD. Then I decided to cross check with other players to see if they haven't gone to those locations or if they've only recently gone there.

Check it...

On Nights 6 and 8, DH chose GCPD and Arkham. What's kind of curious to me is that DH seems to be in the know with comics, and we're playing a Batman game, a Batman Arkham game at that, and he doesn't visit the Asylum until Night 8? Hrm. Anyway, before Night 6, assuming DH is Maroni, this would mean their team already had 7 voice recordings so why not skip a night to keep up appearances in case anyone goes around sniffing at the polls?

Anyway, so I'm getting ahead of myself.

Here are some quotes...

DharmaHelper wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Just cast my vote for Arkham Asylum.

Also, why has the hosts voted for the zoo?
Every poll is going to have a "Host Option" for the hosts, anyone who is dead, and anyone who is not playing to vote for. It helps the Hosts keep track of the poll without having too much trouble.
We know Nero was bad so he could have easily asked his teamies this question which makes it seem fake. And there's DH to answer his fake question. Distance!

DharmaHelper wrote:People calling Nero out for being quiet moments before his essay makes me nervous.
This was said on Day 1 when TH and others (?) were looking Nero's way. Interesting sidenote, I looked through a few pages and didn't see Nero speak of any essay, so I don't know where that came from, but perhaps it's there somewhere and I missed it. Derp. Either way, DH lightly defending Nero.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:I misread Friday am as pm, so Im suddenly in a hurry to vote, as I'm going to bed soon.

I honestly don´t know, and its stressing me out that I have to vote for someone. Im considering Floyd, even though I don´t like lynching low posters. I did notice him being online earlier today while I was reading and he hasn´t posted. I know I did it myself, but at least I gave an explanation for doing it.

Yeah Im going with Floyd. Time zones suck.

Im interested in seeing the outcome tomorrow. Goodnight ya´ll.

This was also Day 1. DH never elaborates on his chin stroke. If indeed teamies with Nero and Floyd, then this could just be an honest reaction of "Why?" Haha.

DharmaHelper wrote:Lets lynch Nero.
Keep in mind, he says this, but has already placed his vote on MP. Then someone, I'm assuming, asked him why and his response...

DharmaHelper wrote:Why? Because I don't want to lynch Matt right now and Nero has a couple of votes.
That's weird because I think DH would usually want to lynch someone for more then "cuz they have a few votes". This just kind of sounds sarcastic to me honestly, like he doesn't even mean it. Again, he had already placed his vote on MP.

DharmaHelper wrote:The case against Matt is - "Nevermind there is no case against Matt"

And the case against Nero is that Matt thinks he might be the Riddler or something.
Again, he doesn't seem to even want to lynch Nero despite saying "Let's lynch Nero." "Matt thinks he might be the Riddler or something" seems very dismissive, not supportive of a case on Nero. Remember all this later because it's important.

DharmaHelper wrote:I think we're making the best decision Enrique could make and that's all we can ask for in any lynch.
A riff of the 3J quote in Mac's sig, basically making fun of Enrique's "Don't lynch Matt, lynch sig or Nero!" post. Again, doesn't feel like he really wants Nero lynched.

DharmaHelper wrote:JC/Golden, had I said "Let's lynch X" would you have voted for X?
In response to JC/Golden both voting Nero. This doesn't look like someone who wants Nero lynched, questioning those who chose to vote him.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Isn't it a Syndicate Mafia tradition to lynch the new player first? Maybe that's why there was a no lynch yesterday

I had been thinking of giving Matt the botd in his lynch Nero/Enrique crusade anyway (and I don't think Matt is bad, I think he's Indy based on a couple of posts he's made today) so I'll be voting for Nero today's since he's come up with both Matt and Enrique.

I hope you guys are right!
What do you mean you hope "you guys" are right? Why are you unconcerned if you yourself are correct? Why pawn off the accountability?
Again, Sorsha follows a Nero vote, and DH doesn't seem happy about it.

DharmaHelper wrote:Welcome to the site, Nero.
In response to the lynch ending. Again, sounds sarcastic, he doesn't seem happy.

Now the following quotes occur when DH starts taking heat for being Nero's teamie, here is what DH says...

DharmaHelper wrote:Bruv I literally convinced two people to vote for Nero in order to save you what the fuck are you smoking.

DharmaHelper wrote:I voiced my assent in a Nero lynch. That alone should be enough to tell you he was not my teammate.

DharmaHelper wrote:Remember that time I literally said "Hey lets lynch Nero"

Yeah me too
He goes on to say the same thing over and over again to sig and MP who are questioning him over it, but like...yeah you said "Let's lynch Nero" but then you made a ridiculous reason as to why you wanted him lynched ("cuz he has votes"), downplayed why I wanted him lynched ("Matt thinks he's the Riddler or something"), made a riff off of 3J's quote to make Enrique look silly based on his turnaround, questioned Golden, JC, and Sorsha who all voted Nero...

Basically, he didn't really "lead" or "advocate" a Nero lynch as he claims. Not at all.

I did a search of Floyd in DH's post history, too...the following quotes take place on Day 1

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So... I'm swamped beyond belief and there's no way I'll make it before EoD. I'm still on page 11 when I last posted. Sorry everyone.

I know this is very unlike me, but I don't have any remotely firm leads on anyone from what I can recall, since the only player I had thought even seemed slightly suspicious (zebra) no longer seemed suspicious to me after I talked with her, so... yeah. I randomized among "low posters" (i.e., those with less than 5 posts) and got TheFloyd73.

Hopefully I can catch up and get back into this game fully by this weekend.

MP votes Floyd. DH refers to MP as Darth Vader. K.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:OK, I'm out now until the EoD because of work commitments so despite not having a convincing argument against any particular individual I'm voting for TheFloyd73. As the votes stand right now, my priority is to avoid the lynching of someone who appears to be at risk and who I am (on balance) convinced may be potentially an asset to us.
Your priority is to avoid the lynching of someone who appears at risk so you voted for the guy with the most votes what are you talking about
Not happy with Glorfy's vote for Floyd, and tries to make Glorfy look nonsensical.

I think we have our Sal Maroni. Boop.

Bullzeye wrote:
juliets wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
juliets wrote:
Matt wrote:Sorry to do this, but I have to get ready for work and jet.

I'm voting DH. Don't think he genuinely wanted Nero lynched, and it shows.

Good luck town!
You didn't even let him respond.
Matt said he had to go to work, so it seems odd that you were considering voting him for that.

Linki: I had like 6 other tabs open and when I looked back, Typh voted me.

As far as my reads right now go, I'd put Matt, Golden, Mac, and MP as strong civ reads, with Enrique up there too. Typh, Bullz, Dom, snd SVS are middling for me, as well as the inactives. I think there could be something to the DH case, I'm still looking over Lorab, and I didn't like Juliets' reasoning for her suspicion of Matt, but otherwise haven't been pinged by her.
I'm not voting him because he had to go to work. I'm possibly voting him because he did not let DH respond before he voted him. That's common mafia courtesy. I think since SVS has shown up DH is probably silenced (Enrique is a possibility but I doubt it since he said he would be declining in participation).I haven't made a definite decision though and probably won't do until late.
Do you really not see that Matt couldn't wait for DH because he had to go to work?

I guess if it were me I would have voted someone else and given DH another day. But if you think that is too much to expect maybe I'm getting clouded by my dislike of the vote with no response. And it was a small suspicion anyway, and it's getting blown up into much more than I meant. So, I will look for somebody else. Where are you on who to vote for?

DFaraday wrote:
juliets wrote:
Matt wrote:Sorry to do this, but I have to get ready for work and jet.

I'm voting DH. Don't think he genuinely wanted Nero lynched, and it shows.

Good luck town!
You didn't even let him respond.
Matt said he had to go to work, so it seems odd that you were considering voting him for that.

Linki: I had like 6 other tabs open and when I looked back, Typh voted me.

As far as my reads right now go, I'd put Matt, Golden, Mac, and MP as strong civ reads, with Enrique up there too. Typh, Bullz, Dom, snd SVS are middling for me, as well as the inactives. I think there could be something to the DH case, I'm still looking over Lorab, and I didn't like Juliets' reasoning for her suspicion of Matt, but otherwise haven't been pinged by her.

I'm not voting him because he had to go to work. I'm possibly voting him because he did not let DH respond before he voted him. That's common mafia courtesy. I think since SVS has shown up DH is probably silenced (Enrique is a possibility but I doubt it since he said he would be declining in participation).I haven't made a definite decision though and probably won't do until late.

Dang i didn't realized she was cursed. Another good mind lost.

Bubbles, maybe Bass we can't tell, and then up in the 70's Lorab and DFaraday but they are posting like they always do. Bubbles too for that matter. Hopefully someone else answers this so they can disagree if they think they can prove Bass hasn't been online.

Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:Typh regarding you asking who i would vote, I just made a post re: how i feel like I have no body to vote. I won't vote you or Dom or Golden at this time. The only person I have any small inkling to vote would be Matt for not letting DH respond to accusations before voting him but thats a mighty slim reason. This is really just a condensed version of the post I made. Maybe you missed it.
Don't you think that seems like Matt, though?

I felt like people were far too hasty to clear Matt after the Nerolunar lynch. Back then, I felt he could well be bad. But, over time, for example his unflinching suspicion of people like TH and MP despite all evidence to the contrary. I just came out of all of that feeling like this is normal Matt.

I could see Matt as inmate though.

Yeah Golden I see what you mean. And I can agree that I see Matt more as an inmate than mafia. I just have a real thing about people voting people who haven't been able to respond. If he had voted Bass after making a case I could understand because the chances that he would come around are nil. But DH has been around the whole game. Anyway, I don't know what to do.

Typhoony wrote:
juliets wrote:Typh regarding you asking who i would vote, I just made a post re: how i feel like I have no body to vote. I won't vote you or Dom or Golden at this time. The only person I have any small inkling to vote would be Matt for not letting DH respond to accusations before voting him but thats a mighty slim reason. This is really just a condensed version of the post I made. Maybe you missed it.
I did not miss it. It just felt like a post to make a post really. It's almost the end of the Day and I can't do much with "I will not vote X, Y, Z, A, B, C, D or E." Hence why I asked who you would vote for right now and why.

I made the post to clarify where i am in my thinking. There are still hours and hours until the vote is due. I realize thats not the same for you but I just can't make something up out of thin air so you will have a solid answer.

Typh regarding you asking who i would vote, I just made a post re: how i feel like I have no body to vote. I won't vote you or Dom or Golden at this time. The only person I have any small inkling to vote would be Matt for not letting DH respond to accusations before voting him but thats a mighty slim reason. This is really just a condensed version of the post I made. Maybe you missed it.

I am not having very much luck today on who to vote for. Someone else said this and I feel similarly that my leaning bad reads are all gone. There has been evidence brought about DH but he has not been around since Friday to respond to it. I don't agree right now with either Typh or Dom being bad. I understand what your saying Golden but I can't suspect someone off of your gut reads. I'm not seeing Golden bad either. Equivocate and ekenat haven't been here to send in kills, and Bass its hard to say because the field that tells the last time you were here in his profile is blank. So anyway, you get the picture. I'm tempted to vote Matt for not letting DH respond before voting him but that seems like a small reason to vote someone. If anyone has other ideas I'd love to hear them (btw I've noticed DH, SVS, and Enrique haven't been here this phase. I could see one of them being silenced but all three? Enrique said he would have declining participating but nothing during the whole phase?).

Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:
Matt wrote:Sorry to do this, but I have to get ready for work and jet.

I'm voting DH. Don't think he genuinely wanted Nero lynched, and it shows.

Good luck town!
You didn't even let him respond.
I wouldn't panic too much. Responses aren't relevant to Matt

(Sorry Matt!)

Hahahaha!

Matt wrote:Sorry to do this, but I have to get ready for work and jet.

I'm voting DH. Don't think he genuinely wanted Nero lynched, and it shows.

Good luck town!

You didn't even let him respond.

Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:By the way I gave a reason for BOTH of you. Process of elimination. You don't have to like the reason, but it's the truth. If you expect some grand revelation about how your posts are particularly terrible, you won't get one. They just don't exhibit anything that makes me town read you.
So how do you prioritize me over Equivocate or Ek etc?

Because...???

This is the same thought I was having about the process of elimination. Are you sure you got all the NK's people's role's right? Much less the people alive like Equivocate and eketat. I can understand process of elimination but not when there are so many people it would seem impossible to know them and their role, dead or alive. Maybe there is something more to this that I don't understand.

Dom if you are still here, is there anything that you know of that you can respond to Golden with? I see from your comment that you think he might be going there because you put pressure on him. Was there anything else for you to respond to?

Sorry, i could have done that all in one post but it didn't think of it until I had posted.

Golden, I'd like to hear more from you on why you suspect Dom. He seems to be same old civ Dom to be but he is hard for me to read. It's also hard to tell anything about Typh for me because his time is so limited that we don't get much.

I'm here and wondering the same thing.

haha sig -

Is anyone here to talk about who we might lynch tomorrow?

RIP TH

I'm so sad that you are leaving the game. Looking forward to the next time we play together.

DFaraday wrote:
Golden wrote:Scotty made a case in the early game on DFaraday that I really agreed with but now have entirely forgotten about.
Here it is. And here is my response.

I don't agree with the Matt suspicion. He's still coming off as an earnest civ to me.

My main suspicion at the moment is on Bubbles, because here vote was still shady to me, even without Glorf as a teammate. I also feel like Lorab merits looking into some more. I suspected her early on, so I may revisit that.

I still don't think going after inactives is a good idea, since the baddies are still sending in kills and so that limits the number of baddies inactives could be.

DF, why do you feel Lorab bears looking into? Did you see something that pinged you? She did a great job of asking Bubbles questions that we'll never get answers to but they show why there should be some suspicion on Bubbles - someone that you suspect too.

Bubbles, did you see those questions Lorab had for you?

Dom wrote:I fucked up

I don't think it will matter Dom unless people are looking at your past votes and then you may have to remind them what happened.

I'm also going with Glorfindel today. I've been unsure about him for a long while but he is playing the same game he did in Star Wars. And I do see how he talks around things instead of giving direct answers like he did in Pikmin. So i feel like I have no other choice but to give him my vote. As Typh said, I really think you're a cool guy Glorf and I hope you play many, many more games with us on this site if you get lynched this time.

S~V~S wrote:What changed to make you think differently?

This whole thing with Bubbles has me very paranoid.

Are you paranoid because you think she might be civ or because you think she might be bad?

juliets wrote:I don't know anything of Bubbles except what I see in this game. If I've played with her before I've totally forgotten. For some of you who are speaking up on her normal style can you tell me another game she played in? I know she doesn't have many posts but I'm going to look at her posts here in comparison to another game.

Never mind telling me a game - I found a really easy way to determine what games someone has been in.

I read her posts in Star Wars and found the posts much like this game. I'm not positive but I believe she was good in Star Wars. I then read her posts in AWR and again, they seemed similar to this game. She seemed to be good in that game. Then in Recruitment her style differed - she was much more involved and posted almost every day. No big gaps like there were in the other games. She was also good in that game. As a matter of fact, I found reference in one of these games that she had always been good in all the games she's played here (I think this is the twelfth), not that it makes any difference because just because you're good in every game doesn't mean you will be good in every other.

So basically I learned nothing. She has posted the same and differently in other games and still been good. I guess I would say I don't lean bad on her due to game style comparison. Lorab's questions though point to a myriad of things wrong with what she has posted which means I can't dismiss her entirely. Oh, and I was mistaken I have played with her before but just didn't remember.

I don't know anything of Bubbles except what I see in this game. If I've played with her before I've totally forgotten. For some of you who are speaking up on her normal style can you tell me another game she played in? I know she doesn't have many posts but I'm going to look at her posts here in comparison to another game.

Nice job Lorab. Maybe her teammates will tell her to come back and answer your questions - or maybe she'll read along for a week and then come back for your questions.

MacDougall wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Yeah but they were playing.
True dat. I don't have time or patience for nonparticipating players. Teammates or otherwise.
Oh boy did we carry Motel Room though...

I am poisoned btw. What's that supposed to mean?

It means you will die unless you find the antidote. MP was poisoned and found it somehow so there is hope.

Hello everyone, sorry I have been missing today. I had some things to do and then I fell asleep!

Let me try to clear up the game comparisons I did with Glorfindel. First, note that I was looking at three different games: this one, Star Wars, and Pikmin. I think the confusion on how I feel stems from the fact that the two sets of comments were about two different games comparing them to our current game.

The first game I talked about was Star Wars and I said I did not see the comparison. He seemed much more melt downish in Star Wars than in this game. I didn't say this the first time but since it has come up, it did appear he was spending his time defending himself though if being accused i think it's hard not to defend. But he sounded more defensive to me there than here. In terms of whether or not he was evasive I wasn't reading for that because it came up after I read the games to my recollection. Dom feels like - having been there - that the posts in Star Wars were not melt downy and that his game there was reminiscent of his game here.

The real eye opener was Pikmin. His posting in Pikmin was nothing like his posting here or Star Wars. He was straight to the point, there were no winding posts and the posts were short enough to read more in depth as I skimmed and he did not avoid things that I could see. My only caveat about that - and its a big one in my mind - is he wasn't under any pressure of being bad like he was in Star Wars and is here. So I don't know if I'm looking at someone who has a posting style that comes out when he's under pressure as in this game regardless of alignment or someone who has a drastically different posting style when he's good than when he is bad. That's why I asked others to read his posts and add their opinion as to what those games are telling us.

Also, a lot has happened since I posted my read on his games. I was not looking too close at content and that seems to be the reason many are suspecting Glorfindel now.

sprityo, i'm sorry I participated in your lynch. I guess there were just some things I took wrong or misunderstood. I hope you'll be back to play again in another game.

S~V~S wrote:
And I appreciate it when I would not even defend myself that day. I really had just thrown my hands up and said, "Fine, I'll show them" that day, and I appreciate you putting in the effort for me. Yesterday was different. Yesterday the self vote was more of a pressure vote. I wanted to see who would put their money where their mouth was. Golden keeps saying, "I don't know why SVS thinks I am gonna vote for her". Well, I was his main topic of discussion, every post where he mentioned me he mentioned some form of "bad", for starters. And Glorfindel (writing "Glor or Glorf" seems disrespectful to the High Elven, lol) clearly stated he was going to vote for me. I asked 3 tumes for his reasons, finally he said, search my posts. And I did and I could not find it, and asked him to link me to it two or three times,and he ignored me,even though he replied to posts both before & after mine.

Glorfindel, you did say you would vote for SVS and she did ask for your reasons. Why, especially after she couldn't find anything in your posts, did you ignore her request for a link?

Ok thanks S~V~S. I'm not going to vote you because I believe in your heart you would rather stay and play, you're just annoyed. I know how that feels.

sprityo didn't respond to me, even to ask what I meant by what I said. I don't think he really cares and some of the things he has said, like he'd be ok with dying except he'd be putting his fate in the hands of the town. When asked what that meant he said "Sparta". And as I said earlier this is not the only example or reason. He implied he had met win conditions then denied it and then said a lynch would help him. I just don't trust him.

So I'm voting sprityo.

S~V~S, I can see you being frustrated one day and voting for yourself but now you've done it twice. Are you encouraging us to vote you because you want out? You haven't sounded like that but then I don't think I've ever seen you vote yourself twice - have you?

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I meant moreso my points not Goldens.
Anyones points linking me to Sabie are untrue. Because I was not linked to Sabie. Since this is a game of hidden knowledge, it is easy to take almost any supposition and find a way to find evidence for it. But That does not make the case correct. Other people apparently judged it based on the content, and as the person who knows the truth of it, I judged it based on that truth.

And there is no truth in it. And that is really all I can say about it. I can go through it point by point and say "Nope" to all of them if you like.
Are you aware of the points I am talking about? This seems like an awfully generic statement

DH, I know S~V~S said it didn't matter which points you were talking about but I would like to know. I just reviewed Golden's case and don't know if your points about Sabie and SVS are coming from there or from other points. It would be helpful if you would point me or link me or just describe what bothers you about that subject.

I am thinking about a vote for sprit but I want to see if he is going to come in and answer the final few things in my case. He told someone (Dom maybe?) that he did not meet his win conditions but frankly he implied he did and then he said he didn't and I don't know which is the truth. He seems deceptive on this subject and I don't like deception.

Turnip Head wrote:yo sprit who felt weird about me you weird motherfucker

Yikes! TH I don't think the undrunk you meant to call anyone a motherfucker.

Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?

Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.

Ok Dom, I know it feels different when you're playing than when you're simply reading like I did. I just thought there was more frustration and meltdown than in this game but will give weight to your read having been there.

I read Pikmin Mafia and Glorfindel's posts did look significantly different - he never appeared frustrated or upset. BUT there is a big difference between that game and the Star Wars game - he never had any pressure on him about being bad. So I don't think I can compare that game with this one.

I'd really like those thinking of voting for Glorfindel to read those two games - it doesn't take long - because I'd like to hear other opinions based on the reads.

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