The Syndicate

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Im going to go ahead and vote FZ. I agree that its odd that she is defending so hard if she is going to survive. My top suspect is mata but we can't lynch her today.

RIP Boom

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

You got two people who can't be lynched lynched. Awesome.

And the award for Head Up The Ass comment of the year goes to...

More insults. It's this kind of class that makes your arguments so convincing.

You got two people who can't be lynched lynched. Awesome.

thellama73 wrote:If people want me to vote for someone other than FZ, MAKE A FRIGGIN CASE. Quit just saying "don't vote for her." YOu have to give a more plausible alternative. Why does no one understand that except Epi? SHow me who the bad guys are and I will listen, but just being denialists is not going to chance anyone's mind.

FZ. wrote:DH and TH, do you think llama and Epi are misguided or bad?

thellama73 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Maybe FZ still doesn't want to waste a lynch on a detective because in her heart of hearts she's genuinely interested in lynching baddies. Ever consider that, Llama?

As I said already, we will waste far more time if we keep having this conversation every day than if the lynch fails as she predicts and we move on.

The only reason we keep having to have this conversation everyday is because you and Epi won't let it go regardless of what else is happening in the game. You and Epi are the ones forcing that. You're the ones who can't move on.

I will move on when, and only when, we see how an FZ lynch turns out.

linki: You assume incorrectly.

thellama73 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Suggesting a detective should peacefully succumb to her fate. That's a good laugh, Llama. Thanks for that.

Yes, her fate of NOT BEING LYNCHED. Unless of course, she's lying, which I think she is.

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:That Death Note is going to be in Kira's hands one way or another Boo. It's either in Light's hands or Higuchi's hands or Mikami's hands. Somebody is going to try to kill us with it.

The thing is, if FZ isn't Light, then by lynching her the Death Note will still be in Light's hands after tonight...

I think I already know who you are, and I think you can win with the detectives, and I don't mind trusting you because you've baddie hunted more than most people in this game, so letting you talk to L could benefit us. My only problem is that I don't know your win conditions and I'm not sure if blindly trusting you is not dangerous. Can you honestly say that you would do everything to help the civvies win?


And what does MM mean?

Epignosis wrote:I'm too busy recording music for tomorrow.

Epignosis wrote:I'm too busy recording music for tomorrow.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Assuming Mikami makes it online before the deadline, no one will be lynched.

Ricochet wrote:I'd rather have L tell me something relevant tomorrow following FZ's lynch fail.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh, I misunderstood.

Regardless. I won't be lynched today, because...

God commands otherwise!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:TH, your "evidence" was built on trying to pin me and Mata as Misa/Rem. I am neither of those roles. You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal back then. You didn't actually address anything from that until I reminded you of certain questions I asked you (the Misa relinquish part). You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal on your first case (me + MM = love) either.

Unrelated to this, if you have only this angle about who Mata could be, you might want to look into a totally different, alignment-wise, but equally significant possibility.

I didn't respond to your rebuttal because it became clear to me soon afterwards that I couldn't get you lynched right now even if I tried. I have plenty to say about your rebuttal if you'd actually like to hear my thoughts on it, because your response only served to convince me further that I am right about you.

And thanks for your answers DP. Good to know where you stand.

TH, can you explain to me, in words I understand, what is going on with MM and the Mikami thing? Is he accusing DH of being her (or is it him)?

DH said that he wouldn't lynch me unless I outed my teammates. His comment was perfectly timed with my plan.

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:TH, your "evidence" was built on trying to pin me and Mata as Misa/Rem. I am neither of those roles. You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal back then. You didn't actually address anything from that until I reminded you of certain questions I asked you (the Misa relinquish part). You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal on your first case (me + MM = love) either.

Unrelated to this, if you have only this angle about who Mata could be, you might want to look into a totally different, alignment-wise, but equally significant possibility.

I didn't respond to your rebuttal because it became clear to me soon afterwards that I couldn't get you lynched right now even if I tried. I have plenty to say about your rebuttal if you'd actually like to hear my thoughts on it, because your response only served to convince me further that I am right about you.

And thanks for your answers DP. Good to know where you stand.

TH, can you explain to me, in words I understand, what is going on with MM and the Mikami thing? Is he accusing DH of being her (or is it him)?

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:TH, your "evidence" was built on trying to pin me and Mata as Misa/Rem. I am neither of those roles. You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal back then. You didn't actually address anything from that until I reminded you of certain questions I asked you (the Misa relinquish part). You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal on your first case (me + MM = love) either.

Unrelated to this, if you have only this angle about who Mata could be, you might want to look into a totally different, alignment-wise, but equally significant possibility.

"I'm not baddie teammates with Mata but btw here let me defend mata"

Not defending. I didn't say the other alignment was good.

Different in alignment from Misa?

Yes.

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:TH, your "evidence" was built on trying to pin me and Mata as Misa/Rem. I am neither of those roles. You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal back then. You didn't actually address anything from that until I reminded you of certain questions I asked you (the Misa relinquish part). You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal on your first case (me + MM = love) either.

Unrelated to this, if you have only this angle about who Mata could be, you might want to look into a totally different, alignment-wise, but equally significant possibility.

"I'm not baddie teammates with Mata but btw here let me defend mata"

Not defending. I didn't say the other alignment was good.

FZ. wrote:Can anyone tell me how voting early could be related to the theme?


linki: WTH?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MIKAMI

You know who you are, and I know who you are. Your time has come. You learned something valuable yesterday, and it would be quite the boon to Master Light for you to play your part now.

How's that DH?

Ricochet wrote:TH, your "evidence" was built on trying to pin me and Mata as Misa/Rem. I am neither of those roles. You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal back then. You didn't actually address anything from that until I reminded you of certain questions I asked you (the Misa relinquish part). You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal on your first case (me + MM = love) either.

Unrelated to this, if you have only this angle about who Mata could be, you might want to look into a totally different, alignment-wise, but equally significant possibility.

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

FZ. wrote:Why do you think MM wants us to vote for him? Or did he get back his DN and is doing a reverse psychology on us?........ Or did I totally miss his role?

I believe MM is Ryuk. Maybe his secret win condition is that he has to reveal his role as such, which would require lynching him again.

He's also trying not to share any suspicions so that we can't figure out who is and isn't on his team. Voting for himself tells us nothing, which is the way he wants it.

If his win condition requires an extra lynch, would he be that obvious about it? Why would we help him? If it's in fact his win conditions, I'll go with it if he reveals who Light (who he has BTSC with) is.

What the heck is this even? Isn't that outing?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

The Sockface Death Note Mafia Trivia Game Show

Question 20:
How many players will gain prizes from this game show?

FZ. wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Voted for Bass. Aside from all the points I've already put forward about him, he does not seem interested in addressing those points seriously, or pursuing actual suspects.

DH, what do you really think of Epi's case on me? Apart from my FU, don't you think his case is a good one?

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm sorry that some of us only have the thread to rely on.

How is that relevant?

It's relevant because, by participating and trying my hardest to catch Kira, I'm just a knucklehead who is forcing people, strong arming, and vote bullying to you. Nice.

Epignosis wrote:I'm sorry that some of us only have the thread to rely on.

I am Epignosis. I am ALWAYS in the scope of a Night kill.

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know why many people continue to avoid voting FZ.

If it's out of spite, fine. I understand the urge to not do what I want.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

boo wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Something I want others' opinions on:

What do we think of the idea that some of these role secrets could be faked?

What makes you say that?

A lore based assumption.

Would you like to be more vague please?

In the show, at some point someone adds fake rules to a Death Note. Death Notes come with "rules" on like the first page that dictate how to use one.

Ok, I know nothing of the show but aren't death notes different from the roles?

My thought process was, continuing the thought that MP would put as much of the show as possible into the game, the best way to incorporate the rules/fake rules of the Death Notes was to use it on role secrets.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Three.

Correct.

Three kills have failed.

You may not answer any more questions. A new question is forthcoming.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

The Sockface Death Note Mafia Trivia Game Show

Question 10:
How many kills have failed?

This question remains unanswered.

Four.

Turnip Head wrote:I have seen DP on the site on two different occasions while he's been the only person left that we need to answer a game show question, and he still can't be arsed to post.

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If you leave Light alone, do you still have to deal with Higuchi eventually, detectives?

Sweeping shit under the rug.

Put Light's death note in the hands of the faction that doesn't need the detectives dead to win. How about that?

Holy shit like has nobody heard of subtlety before.

I told you early on in the game that it's safer to pretend to be Yotsuba than it is to pretend you're a friggin' detective. I'm just following through with that line of thought.

Epignosis wrote:If you leave Light alone, do you still have to deal with Higuchi eventually, detectives?

Sweeping shit under the rug.

Put Light's death note in the hands of the faction that doesn't need the detectives dead to win. How about that?

FZ. wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

FZ. wrote:What I'm trying to ask is, if there's a kill later on, can we assume one kill failed and another has succeeded, or does the "no one was killed by a Kira" just for the sake of a headline when the day starts (and that kill will show up later whenever the Kira decides to place it)?


I'll read the answer in the morning, because I'm going to bed


linki: Yes, why?

I think we've already established this a few times (Once when I figured it out days ago and once again now that the secrets have been revealed)

I can't keep up. Can you enlighten me?

As Kira, Light may control the time of death, as well as conditions triggering death, for each of his victims. However, the soonest that his kill can occur is typical (that night). The latest it can occur is as long as he wishes. In addition, Kira may control the victim's actions before death, which means he may control content of the host post in which his victim is killed.

FZ. wrote:What I'm trying to ask is, if there's a kill later on, can we assume one kill failed and another has succeeded, or does the "no one was killed by a Kira" just for the sake of a headline when the day starts (and that kill will show up later whenever the Kira decides to place it)?


I'll read the answer in the morning, because I'm going to bed


linki: Yes, why?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

The Sockface Death Note Mafia Trivia Game Show

Question 10:
How many kills have failed?

This question remains unanswered.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Is Dp usually this quiet during games?

DharmaHelper wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:You haven't been keeping up with your own thought process?

Not really with this game.

Alright can I ask you this question then:


You said this:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

juliets wrote:TH, regarding your wanting to return to discussion on MM, can you link to your case on him? Or just maybe mention the major points about him and that will jar my memory.

Click this post and then keep reading down the page. Just read and absorb, form your own opinion, then come back to my analysis here...



Eventually MM makes a list of Kira suspects that fit a profile he seemed to have created on the fly... and until today, after being prompted by Bea herself to do so, he hasn't voted for or pursued any of those suspects. The question I ask myself is, is he even interested in catching Kira? The evidence says no.

I would love to point to the other times I tried to engage with MM in the same way as I did above, but after that exchange he tended to outright ignore my direct questions to him, skulking away into the shadows, only to accuse me yesterday of not bringing up any points about him. When I proved him wrong on that, he scurried back into the shadows once again. Hah!

I agree with a lot of stuff thats being talked about because of this post. I find it odd that MM had all those suspects and didn't really question any of them or vote any till pressed to. I will be voting MM today because of this.

Sorrry I just got off the road and realized I had to vote so now I'm going to bed . good night.

Which is a direct parroting of TH's suspicion of MM. Then you said this:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

boo wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I not sure who to vote for yet. I'm going to think about it, and come back to vote later.

Does anyone else find it strange that Made forgot the one of the Sympathizers was dead? It almost makes me wonder if he could be Yotsuba and their secret win condition isn't effected by having the Sympathizers dead.

Ok, well. I did a read of Bass now.

Of 50 posts, this is the only one I want to quote, but first, most of his posts are:
1) Telling us he's getting caught up.
2) Telling us he has caught up.
3) Saying goodbye to the person who gets killed.
4) Telling us he's currently busy and well get caught up later.
5) Quoting people and offering a one or two sentence thought.
6) Quoting people he agrees with and using their reason to vote.
7) Voting without quoting, and just vaguely saying he agrees with the suspicion.

So, bass, questions for you:
1) Can you name the 3 people your most suspicious of and think you will vote for today.
2) Without quoting people, can you give reasons why you think those 3 people are the most suspicious? And I do mean reasons, not just saying Person A, Person B, and Person C, because they're suspicious.
3) We know you were right that Made was Yotsuba. Do you still think the reason Made seemed to have forgot a Sympathizer was dead was because it wasn't important to his win condition?

Well my top three are
1. TH
2. MM
3. The llama

I might be wrong or missed somethings in the thread because of how crazy RL has been and how crazy this game has been but those are the top 3.

The reason for the top two is because of them surviving the lynches. I know their are roles that aren't kiras that can survive but why should we just give them a free pass because of that.

The llama because he asked a question that made me raise my eye brow. he asked who would kill S~V~S and LC. It made me raise my brow because I asked almost the same question in zelda mafia only I asked, who would kill S~V~S and MP? The answer was lama so I think its possible that he would take those players out early here.

With made I think it might make sense because we don't know what their win conditions are.

So my questions to you Bass are:

1) Why did you vote for MM based on TH's suspicion and parrot his post? Did you really agree with "a lot of the stuff" that was brought up about MM or were you looking for a quick, comfortable place to put your vote?

2) Why is TH, whose post you agreed with one lynch prior, suddenly your top suspect?

3) More importantly, why is he above MM on your list of suspects if you agreed with him that MM was suspicious?

4) Why are two of your top three suspects unlynchable?

5) Why is llama on your list for a reason that happened ages ago? Did you just make that reason up?

Matahari wrote:DH - The thanks Ukita was a half-joke, half-question. I figured some ppl might jump on it and try to use it against me, and other ppl would just laugh because they didn't it, either way I might learn something from the reactions. I mean, seriously, did you think I did that so that Ukita would say, "No, I didn't!"

Ricochet - do you really think everything has been revealed? Was it ever revealed that no prizes were awarded from the day 0 poll? Things happen in games all the time that can't be discussed in the thread.