The Syndicate

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

My original question to you was actually going to lead up to wondering if Zebra was "seemed", but then your strange denial of the curses has now got me intrigued. Not even on you, I'm curious about juliets and niju now. Why are you getting so defensive over this?

Linki - Lol. That's not at all the same thing, but k.

You seemed to be grilling me into breaking the rules, and indignant at me when I wouldn't. That's why.

What do you mean "grilling" ? I asked you a simple question. If anything, Rico was "grilling" you, and when I returned, didn't continue that line of questioning, instead I asked you about niju and juliets. To which your answer was "I dunno".

How about this then? Do you think it's possible that Zebra was "seemed" ?

I guess anything really is possible. I don't think it's likely or practical or reasonable. Possible, sure.

Anything to Add Wiggles? How's Sorsha and your other BTSC pals doin? You guys ready for when yall get steamrolled starting next lynch?

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

My original question to you was actually going to lead up to wondering if Zebra was "seemed", but then your strange denial of the curses has now got me intrigued. Not even on you, I'm curious about juliets and niju now. Why are you getting so defensive over this?

Linki - Lol. That's not at all the same thing, but k.

You seemed to be grilling me into breaking the rules, and indignant at me when I wouldn't. That's why.

Follow up questions for Matt:

What is your role?
Who are your teammates, if any?
Please quote, screenshot, paraphrase, or in some other way disclose all host interactions with you up to this point
Would you be willing to skip this night poll and two additional consecutive polls of any kind?
Who have you targeted this whole game?
What were you targeted by this whole game?
Have you now or have you ever had BTSC? If so, please post a transcript.
Have you won any prizes? If so, which, and how have you used them?
Did you read the rules and did you use the word "scandalous at all in this game?
Would you like to question the hosts as to the application of any of the rules?

*If you are told to vote for a specific person, or are given a task or a curse, IT IS UNDERSTOOD that you are not to make it obvious. Don't toe this line.

Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:First Night, Matt asks Draco who might have cursed him, Draco replies "Good question. I dunno". Rules, he says.

Huh?

Just contradicting you further on others ever respecting the rule you're so intent to. Whilst re-reading Draco.

D6, Long Con asks who had the question curses so far, Draco confirms. Teehee.

I don't think you understand what "contradicting" means. The idea of others breaking the rules doesn't excuse me doing so, and it doesn't allow me to do so. Did I claim otherwise?

Why is this a legitimate avenue of discussion?

Matt wrote:Yeah, I think both niju and Juliets have spoken about being vote blocked. Also, when Boom was "question cursed", he literally thanked SVS in the thread for it being over.

Wtf

DH - What do you make of niju and juliets claiming to be vote blocked, then?

I dunno.

Ricochet wrote:First Night, Matt asks Draco who might have cursed him, Draco replies "Good question. I dunno". Rules, he says.

Huh?

Ricochet wrote:You do you.

I'mma go back to doing reads nobody will bother with, because slapping votes at EoD is way cooler and we're doing so well currently anyway, k bye.

That was a good Wilgy read.

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:In a game where everyone who can't vote is quick to announce that, as soon as the phase changes, DH seemingly can't admit to having been cursed.

Ok.

*No reproducing or paraphrasing host PMs, or direct discussing of night results or of if you were targeted or with what.

"Hi, my name is X and I couldn't vote the previous Day, sorry"

times n

Sounds pretty direct to me.

You are not proving me wrong in any way, based on evidence, but carry on. I don't even really care what curse you had on you or if it contradicts the logic of curses, in case you were double targeted. My judgement is actually that you landed on a particular position or the N6 poll was a special crafted event of getting in trouble by voting some particular position, in which you ended up double cursed, not necessarily double targeted.

I guess fuck the rules aye?

Ricochet wrote:In a game where everyone who can't vote is quick to announce that, as soon as the phase changes, DH seemingly can't admit to having been cursed.

Ok.

*No reproducing or paraphrasing host PMs, or direct discussing of night results or of if you were targeted or with what.

You know what's really great about the fucking rules of the game? They're on the fucking first page of the fucking game.

Ain't that some fuck.

*No reproducing or paraphrasing host PMs, or direct discussing of night results or of if you were targeted or with what.

Ricochet wrote:In a game where everyone who can't vote is quick to announce that, as soon as the phase changes, DH seemingly can't admit to having been cursed.

Ok.

Can't? Won't? Who can tell the difference. I bet Epignosis could, he teaches English.

Matt wrote:Question for DH

Were you double cursed yesterday? Question and smilies?

I ask because Zeebs the Smiley Curser died on N1, so how would you be smiley cursed?

Curse? What curse?

Did I miss how we know who LC had BTSC with?

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Boomslang was:

Frans - Guess Who?~CIVVIE
Each Night, choose someone who may only ask yes or no questions the next Day

Fuck you, Boomslang.

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Boom was a weak mention on Dom's radar and I must have said a dozen times look at Dom's ISO, check Dom's ISO in detail, give me your idea of a baddie from Dom's ISO. Honest to God if I can remember anyone except maybe Matt and borderline MM (but who mostly defended himself from Dom's statements on him) doing that and giving me clear "I think Dom checked X bad and we should lynch X" opinions.

My posting priorities were different.

Also, I think it is obvious now we have to lynch Sorsha

MacDougall wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Anyone besides Sorsha think those three posts have any civvie connotations?

Is sorsha panicking after contributing to a mislynch impossible as a civ? Do you think civilians don't panic when they realise they're about to get the hose?

I think you might have a point.

I am feeling Draconus buddying the fuck out of you DH. Can you see it?

I do, and it's a stark contrast from a few days ago.

Sorsha wrote:Boomslangs flip makes no sense considering he'd hinted a couple times that he had info on players (I believe that Matt was the one who pointed that out?) Him being a seemer, or someone messing with his flip is just me speculating on what may have happened, but the flip & what he was saying in the thread don't add up.

Wilgy didn't claim anything. I trusted him because LC trusted he was civ and I believe they had bts, the other players that LC apparently had bts with also think he is civ.

Soooooo, just out of curiosity, are yall this panicked in BTSC right now because I'd love to be a fly on that wall.

Draconus wrote:Also, DH, Sorsha's response to Wilgy is super fishy

Linki: no.

It just stinks of "Oh man we better come up with a contrived way to point back and say we're not teammates because look we went at it that one time here let me grab this post and reply angrily!"

Anyone besides Sorsha think those three posts have any civvie connotations?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Did Motel Room ever make another post after "fuck off I'm reading"?

Yeah, he voted me for being a neutral, then asked what a neutral was.

Oh yeah.

Did Motel Room ever make another post after "fuck off I'm reading"?

Sorsha wrote:Ugh.. Sorry boom

In which Sorsha offers a token RIP because she's so upset another civvie died.

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:As a side note, Boomslang didn't have a BTSC checker role, so whatever the fuck he was doing to Long Con was doubly hilarious.

Or he want actually the role he flipped as

But wait she now thinks Boom was a nasty seemer lol.

Sorsha wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy confirmed mafia RIP

Why does this confirm me as mafia DH?

Also... Boomslang why?

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Because it does. RIP.

Pretty massive fucking coincidence the Boomtrain came out of nowhere to save ya aint it RIP tell your team I said RIP

DH, you realize what you are saying don't you? If the boomtrain is a thing, then it consisted of two players trying to lynch a baddie and survive, Sorsha, and someone who left his vote there for a half day.

Wow... I believed you were civ and tried to help you and now you're going to try to flip this on me?

Did Wilgy even say what this post is claiming he said? Typical "just in case we're fucked heres some back and forth distancing"


Lynch Sorsha tomorrow, when she flips bad annoint me as King Civ and we'll ride to the glorious promised land of End Game.

Dat Sorsha panic mode tho.

Sorsha wrote:Ugh.. Sorry boom

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:As a side note, Boomslang didn't have a BTSC checker role, so whatever the fuck he was doing to Long Con was doubly hilarious.

Or he want actually the role he flipped as

Went from "Sorry Boom " to "Boom was a Seemer!!" Real quick. Dat Wilgy distancing tho. RIP TEAM GG Civs win.

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:As a side note, Boomslang didn't have a BTSC checker role, so whatever the fuck he was doing to Long Con was doubly hilarious.

Or he want actually the role he flipped as

I mean, this is probably the scummiest post of the game.

Theory giving Boomslang a BTSC-Checker role enters thread
Boomslang is lynched in a train lol
COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT RIP WILGY AND HIS TEAM LOL

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy confirmed mafia RIP

Why does this confirm me as mafia DH?

Also... Boomslang why?

Because it does. RIP.

Pretty massive fucking coincidence the Boomtrain came out of nowhere to save ya aint it RIP tell your team I said RIP

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy confirmed mafia RIP

Why does this confirm me as mafia DH?

Also... Boomslang why?

Because it does. RIP.

As a side note, Boomslang didn't have a BTSC checker role, so whatever the fuck he was doing to Long Con was doubly hilarious.

Sorsha wrote:Ugh.. Sorry boom

Lmaooooo

Wilgy confirmed mafia RIP

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why are only women posting in all questions, and 4 out of 5 at that?

motel room wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Is Wigly srsly being saved right now? Can we go one lynch without fucking ourselves raw?

wait, why Wilgy? I'm voting marsh cos he's neutral whatever that is

Can I take a screenshot of this and frame it for when you flip mafia?

nijuukyugou wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:How many people feel comfortable with Dr. Wigly, Motel Room, Blooper, Juliet, or Sorsha? Who is willing to bet me one or more of these individuals is mafia? Can we please lynch one of them today to put my mind at east?

Why am I on this list? Is it because I'm quiet? Do I feel a little like Dom now, where accusations come without foundations?

Why am I having trouble turning statements into questions? Do I need a longer nap? Is the answer "hell yes"?

Is Wigly srsly being saved right now? Can we go one lynch without fucking ourselves raw?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does DharmaHelper keep switching his vote?

At one point, it was this.

Spoiler: show

Dr. Wilgy

• 3
  DharmaHelper, Metalmarsh89, FZ.

Metalmarsh

• 1
  Matt

Then it became this.

Spoiler: show

Dr. Wilgy

• 2
  Metalmarsh89, FZ.

Metalmarsh

• 2
  Matt, DharmaHelper

Now it's this.

Spoiler: show

Dr. Wilgy

• 2
  Metalmarsh89 (12), FZ. (13)

Metalmarsh

• 3
  Matt (8), MacDougall (14), DharmaHelper (15)

And this is all in the last 15 minutes or so.

Am I beginning to feel like a rap god?

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote: linki: Whatever, Rico? Do I care anymore? I'm so sick of this, aren't I?
How can the civvies win if more than half the players are barely playing?

Maybe half the players barely playing are mafia who are letting us chowchow on each other.

But nah, it's probably true.

Matt wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt wrote:Yes, I do. He questioned you for several phases, even voted for you once (though later switched to Tranq). In addition the quote of his I keep posting.

Dom NEVER bought that you were neutral. His words.

Linki - FZ, at this point, I think Boom is trying to balance not getting lynched or NK'd. I don't think he wants to outright agree with the theory that he's a btsc checker. But hey, as long as he has heat on him, the baddies won't kill him. I just hope we don't lynch him either.

No he didn't. He asked what the case on me was on Day 5, so only questioned me after that. I think this means he wasn't paying attention to me before that.

What do you think Matt? Do you buy my claim?

He could have started paying attention on N5, then.

D5 "What's the case on MM"
D5 "... ok, no answer"
N5 "Check!"
D6 "...oiooh"

Well he spent more time saying I'm not to be trusted then saying I'm bad.

One last thing before I go...

Are you conceding that you lied about being neutral and that Dom found you out?

Anyway, peace out peeps.

Linki - Ummm whatever DH?

Linki - FZ - Vote for whoevs at this point. I'd rather not see Boom lynched, but if that's what town wants to do, so be it. Peace

Linki linki linki

I guess I'm not getting it, Rico, I'll check to see what you mean when I get home.

Is it fair to ask if you think it is more likely that a 'civ vig' killed a2, that the mafia's kill was redirected, that Epi and Llama found each other night 0, or that another mafia team killed a2? Isn't it obvious which of those scenarios is more likely? Do you or Rico think it is strange that a2 is the only case of a mafia being NKed this game?

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:If there are two teams and we've only caught two (and by caught mean the civ vigi took care of one and we lynch another by pure four-way luck), then why bother living (err) anymore? Everyone civ should just openly concede and let the two teams face off for the title.

So you think one of Epi/Llama killed Zeebs N1, and the (possibly only one) baddie team was blocked on N1?

That's a possibility, but it's reaching, I think.

Rico - Do you believe MM's claim? It seems like you do. You also question him, but I dunno. I think Dom's quote (on Day 6) is fairly telling on what he thinks we should do with MM.

Anywho, I have to get off to work soon. Please don't lynch Boom. Thanks!

Can we lynch Wilgy, please?

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Oops, should have read DH's reaction first...

Can you elaborate?

Only that you ninja'd me with taking down Wilgy's points.

Ricochet wrote:Oops, should have read DH's reaction first...

Can you elaborate?

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

juliets wrote:Dr. Wilgy since Dom was a role checker why do you find his list of suspects less valid?

1. We don't even know if he accepted the deal.
2. A rolechecking role in a game that uses former roles but changes thier alignment decreases accuracy.

Now, we shouldn't disregard what Dom has stated, but need to have these points in mind. I need to look over Dom's views on MM it my clarify when or if he accepted the deal.

Are you serious? Do you remember Dom's aversion to votes? Isn't it funny how you lean on Long Con's list of suspects because it strengthens your argument against the people who suspect you, but Dom's list of suspects that has you on it is less valid? Doesn't it make sense that a confirmed role checker's list would be more likely to hold valuable information on it?

DH, I pointed out the strangeness of your defense before you suspected me. If you are claiming that this is a "no u" that is not the case.

Have you actually reviewed the interactions between Dom and the players he listed?

DrWilgy wrote:

juliets wrote:Dr. Wilgy since Dom was a role checker why do you find his list of suspects less valid?

1. We don't even know if he accepted the deal.
2. A rolechecking role in a game that uses former roles but changes thier alignment decreases accuracy.

Now, we shouldn't disregard what Dom has stated, but need to have these points in mind. I need to look over Dom's views on MM it my clarify when or if he accepted the deal.

Are you serious? Do you remember Dom's aversion to votes? Isn't it funny how you lean on Long Con's list of suspects because it strengthens your argument against the people who suspect you, but Dom's list of suspects that has you on it is less valid? Doesn't it make sense that a confirmed role checker's list would be more likely to hold valuable information on it?

juliets wrote:Dr. Wilgy since Dom was a role checker why do you find his list of suspects less valid?

motel room wrote:

Draconus wrote:Is Motel Room lurking?

Serious? let me read shit

Draconus wrote:Do some of us work during the day?

FZ. wrote:Am I sorry for not being here?

Did I just come back from a wedding and too tired to post? Is this question curse annoying the hell out of me?

Don't I know who to look at now?

Can DH please start talking more? Can DH name his suspects? How about Drac and Boomslang? Can they say who they are suspicious of? Boomlang, what did you learn tonight? Do you learn something every night? Why haven't you shared it with us? Did you know who doesn't have BTSC or what?

Do I need to go to sleep. I do, don't I?

Why did I start to feel better about FZ after Lorab's flip?
Why do I suddenly find myself suspicious of Wilgy, Boomslang, Marmot, Matt and to a lesser extent Macdaddy, and FZ? Using a rainbow list? What have I become?
Why? Why is Dom brilliant?

Are rainbow lists now my third most hated factor in this game?

Ricochet wrote:Of course not, since you won't bother even remotely cooperating.