The Syndicate

I've been making regular, big ass posts about each player with in-depth reads.

You guys only have to do that once, for 6 players each.

I believe in all of you.

Eloh -

Assume a few things here, namely:

1. I'm a civ
2. I'm not going to torch you today
3. I'm not going to torch INH solely because his 16 posts contain an anomalous amount of participation in y our view.

Given those ideas to play around with, explain to me who you want me to torch. You tunneled on Luna and biffed. Tunneling on me this late in the game, particularly when I have the flamethrower, is just not conducive to a civilian win.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:09 pm I want you exposed even if it means I have to die. I want the civs to finally get a bad guy and I think you are one of them.

If I'm wrong, I apologize.

I would tell you that perhaps I could trust you more if you actually torched a bad guy today, but even then, you could just be killing off the guy you know is one of your own to gain my trust. So...that won't work.

Goading me into torching you for the lulz won't work because I'm a civ and I'm actively looking to make the best decision to get us across the finish line, not make the decision that benefits me the most personally or proves a point or w/e.

Are you saying I should torch you now because that's an odd argument to make as a civ. Or an assimilated. Odd argument to make overall.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:00 pm You've had opportunity before.

Yeah I guess I had an opportunity before when I torched Luna but I felt there was more evidence there, and at the time of the Luna Lynch I town-read you more than I do now. Hindsight.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:58 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:55 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:53 pm DH, do you think I'm a bad guy?
I've gotten pretty strong indicators that you are, yeah.
So why haven't you torched me?

The day has just started.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:53 pm DH, do you think I'm a bad guy?

I've gotten pretty strong indicators that you are, yeah.

If you want to be torched:
Don't vote
Don't post cases
Don't Hunt baddies
Make me sad

If you don't want to get torched:
Post cases
Hunt baddies
Be very convincing.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:37 pm Why isn't DH on the poll. Did I miss something?

Aw shucky ducky.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:46 pm
Spoiler: show
Colin -
I dunno if this read list is a joke or not since it lists everyone as "Good" technically, but if its not, voting to give the flamethrower to Eloh (a middle read of his) over someone higher on the list is noteworthy. As is his post here Parroting Eloh's claim/theory that a "consensus" townread is fooling the thread. He names me, Speed and Jack as the possibles, but as Speed has pointed out, he and Jack aren't really "consensus" town-reads, if town-reads at all, and he and Jack haven't really pushed anything or tried to fool anyone. He also originally posited that the non-kill was an inactive.

His "who would you kill" exercise is also something to look at. He said he'd hold off on answering and didn't.

I've never really felt great about town-reading Colin and his recent stuff hasn't nudged me out of that mentality.

DDL -
Voted to give Quin the flamethrower, townreading Quin based on his recent uptick in activity it looks like. He has either town-read or "un-readable" status on most players, with Sprityo sitting at "too-scummy-to-be-scum" status and being the closest thing DDL has to a suspect ATM. Stepping on eggshells, me no like.

Eloh -
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, I think Eloh's most recent cases (Me and INH) hold no water. She was very vague about her suspicion of me ("how you're playing. POE") which felt like she was just using buzzwords to make it seem more than it was. "Process of elimination" in particular. Like, Good luck using POE in this set up lol. And the INH thing falls apart at close inspection. She says she didn't expect him to be this active (The only reason he's not the least active poster is because Wilgy signed up, told himself not to forget to play this game, and then I guess got invited to travel through Space and Time with the Doctor) Then she called out the "content" of his posts, and said here that INH is "serious at looking civ" which I highlighted earlier but will comment on now. Why does he have to be trying to "look" civ? Can't he just be...civ? Eloh's framing of the question there might have let slip the mask a bit.

INH -
Funnily enough since his decent case on Colin which was posted last Sunday, INH hasn't really done much "content"-wise. Sticking to his guns RE: Colin, asking for more from TH and questioning Chuck on his Quin townread. I don't think INH is bad at this point. Though if Eloh's criticism of his game starts to color his activity/presence, I'll revisit a read on him.

Jack -
A moot point for today but I'm still null on Jack, which isn't great 4 Days into a game I guess, but not much I can do about it for now. We'll see how he handles the spotlight, if he puts out any reads, gives any directions, goes with the flow, etc.

Quin -
Moderate uptick in activity. Still not feeling great about his early game. Wanna see him put some beef in the broth before I move the needle out of the red on this boi. He's being town-read by people though which I will consider, but I can't shake what I can't shake. Ehm.

Chuck -
Again rough that there's not much to update on this read but them's the brakes. Wish he'd expand on his "colorless rainbow". Moving on.

TH: -
Reading back it seems like he was dead-set on Sprityo for a long time there whilst he had the Sizzler. Could be because nobody gave him anything else to work with, but it could be he just saw Sprityo as an easy out and didn't want to look at anyone else, whether he was asked/shown or not. Shifting TH slightly into the red for D3.

I've been considering for a hot minute how in-thread behavior would shift or change or make itself evidence if/once infected targeted each other and from my reads I think I see two likely pairs

- DDL/Quin
- Colin/Eloh

DDL has been soft-as-a-baby-bottom defending/townreading Quin for a hot minute. And Colin's lockstep with Eloh's "we been fooled" play skews a bit when you look at his read list there.

My best guess scenario for who might know who RE: Assimilated.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:12 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:37 pm Hey BTW feels like I been on Eloh/Colin/DDL/Quin for ages fam.
What sorta connections are you seeing here

I believe I made a post about this question a while back but I'm busy ATM. I'll pull it or explain again later.

Colin, a flip-flopper?

Say it ain't so.

Hey BTW feels like I been on Eloh/Colin/DDL/Quin for ages fam.

Then's a lot a words to arrive at "Probably no read here"

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:35 am Don't forget to vote for your friendly neighborhood Turnip Head tonight. I think I led the most successful lynch, despite the result, as there was a clear majority against my target and I was open about my intentions throughout the day. You can be sure I'll fight hard in my second term to land us a better result.

Oof no thanks

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:43 am The more civs we lose, the more I think I'm right. Can we just stop and think for a minute that the people we think we can trust (whoever that is for each of you) could be that bad guys. What I mean is....maybe we should kind of start from scratch, re-evaluate. Who do you trust most? Vote THAT person.

Good thing you don't trust me worth shit. Guess I'm safe.

Or give it back to me.

Huge if true.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:43 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:38 pm You think Eloh had control of the kill just as nova was picking up suspicion of her and popularity with regards to the flamethrower pick? Serendipitous.
Nova has suspected Elo since pretty much forever ago, what is this "just picking up" nonsense

You right fam. Nova cased Eloh D2, my miscalculation.

Ay but you think Eloh got the kill and killed nova just as nova was getting in line for the torch tho?

You think Eloh had control of the kill just as nova was picking up suspicion of her and popularity with regards to the flamethrower pick? Serendipitous.

DDL doesn't have a vote and I want him to know he's on notice, so there.

Oh cool Quin's awake.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:06 pm Why not speedchuck DH?

Not feeling quite up to it. Don't really see the case there.

Look I can't make any promises once I get my hands on RDR2. I'm gonna live in that game for a while. So get used to my supertowning and activity and make use of it while you can.

Anyways, prolly gonna vote later tonight. I'm between Colin/Eloh/Quin/DDL

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:28 pm Also I don't like how it feels like there're three people going "I don't feel good about reading eloh but I don't know how to read her so I'll pass"

How many scum know each other's identities again? Just 2? Because if it's more I smell bullshit here.

I just remember the one failed NK.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:08 pm So not burning Colin, DH, Quin due to townreading and probably shouldn't burn Eloh and Wilgy due to not having a clue on them.

So DDL, INH, TH and Speedchuck is probably my lynch pool. I do got that standard DDL suspicion but it isn't enough to jump on.

I'm not going to ask for an elaborate song and dance but I would like as many accusations and as much reasoning thrown out as possible, even for players I don't think I should burn.

@DrWilgy give me your power. I know you have actual insight and you keep signing up so I know deep in your heart, you wanna give it to me.

Also, who would kill new player? Who would not? I don't think Speed or Quin would. The new player is friends with DDL right? (Or was that Kara?) I don't think he'd kill them so early.

Also, even if it is mylo, scum might shoot scum tonight.

Linki: And I might even burn scum today.

I've been trying to give my best reads/thoughts on everyone fairly consistently because my vote doesn't count so my voice has to. I don't expect you or any flamethrowerer to follow me by the letter but if I can spark something I will try

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:04 pm DH - that read list was a spectrum, from “most good” to “most bad”. Also, I thought we couldn’t double dip the flamethrower but it appears that isn’t the case.

As for the exercise, my bad, I thought I addressed it. I would have killed either Speed or DH due to largest perceived threat, or someone totally unlinked to me at that point like Quin.

Appreciate that you addressed my points boss.

I think 4-4 is not game end because there's no (or little to no) way to coordinate or control the lynch. 3-4 is game end because we are outnumbered.

Spoiler: show

I've been considering for a hot minute how in-thread behavior would shift or change or make itself evidence if/once infected targeted each other and from my reads I think I see two likely pairs

- DDL/Quin
- Colin/Eloh

DDL has been soft-as-a-baby-bottom defending/townreading Quin for a hot minute. And Colin's lockstep with Eloh's "we been fooled" play skews a bit when you look at his read list there.

Gonna put together a current read list here in a second. Just let me shake off my uncontrollable suffering at not being able to play RDR2

Guys please can we not draw kills onto me for trying to win this game instead of meme-ing I'm gonna have a cry

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:28 am Looking at the two nightkills so far ... they don’t make much sense to me. Poutanko was new and Nova had not done anything to become a top townleader. It’s almost as if the killers are choosing targets with the goal of finding their teammates? Which begs the question as to why a player like Jack, Speed or DH haven’t been targeted yet. Unless they have.

If I'd been targeted for a kill I'dve died, so it ain't me fam.

I voted Jack as well, on account of our shared love for gifs and character acting.

If anything a nova kill means to me that Colin did not have the kill last night. Whether he had or will have it other nights I dunno, but it strikes me as false that he would kill Nova in particular.

I'll do some crunch time tomorrow. RIP Nova in the meantime and congratulations to Jack.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 pm I realize I'm reaching here, but I'm going on what I have. What I know of INH and playing mafia is that he usually doesn't care so much to make cases or make more on-topic than off-topic posts as he has this game. If INH is that serious at looking civ, it makes me wonder.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm Say what you mean and mean what you say.

The way you are playing and gaining the trust of others makes me squeemish. I am afraid you are tricking us all and it isn't even halloween yet.

INH never cares enough about a game to post as much as he has this game.

By process of elimination and the ideas above, you and INH are my top suspects.

I did say what I meant, you just took 3 posts to move past "Baddies should be lynched".

What do you mean "the way I am playing"? What went into your "process of elimination"..

Seems incredibly vague to me but hell. What do I know.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:06 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:19 pm just saying...we are losing all civs and the ratio of baddies to civs keeps getting greater.
Yeah but what does that have to do with me.
If you are trying to find them, then you should be concerned.

I guess what I've been trying to ask for 3 posts is why did you say "I am thinking DH and INH for now"

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:19 pm just saying...we are losing all civs and the ratio of baddies to civs keeps getting greater.

Yeah but what does that have to do with me.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:12 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:08 am I think the focus needs to shift. I think y'all truat those you shouldn't.
Such as?
We have 10 players and have yet to catch a bad guy. I am thinking DH and INH for now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
I agree with this. I will vote for nova to get it.

What does one have to do with the other?

I wouldn't mind having it back. But if new blood wants it I'll vote accordingly.

Yikes

I'm finna get torched I bet.

I'm gonna vote for Quin and scoot outta here. Have a good night everyone.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:51 pm Like i've had enough today, so until my jets cool down, im just nitpicking and being unhelpful

it's like DH not wanting to read the thread, except worse because not only do i not care, anything i say will be garbage

Oh you meant in DFS lol.

I would've killed WIlgy. Worst case scenario he dies and as he's a low-poster and the least active player, nothing from D1 would've tied me to it.

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