The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If there's more than one, which you insinuated yourself, why wouldn't they have names to distinguish them?

How many are there?

Juliets said that I suggested the mafia teams have names and I know what they are. I did not; that was a new idea that juliets put in my mouth.

I would agree that if there are two mafia teams, that they would have distinctive names.

Are you then suggesting that juliets knew already that the mafia teams were named, and in questioning you revealed too much?

Yes. I suggested there are two mafia teams. Juliets responded by stating that "That sounds like you not only know there are two teams (i know you responded to this already) but that you knew what the team names were." Juliets brought up the idea of names, but said that I insinuated the existence of names. She put the words in my mouth, which is why I think she has secret knowledge.

Assuming your question got an answer, how did you expect anyone to indicate "which team"?

If there is more than one mafia team, I could care less which one llama is on if he's bad.

My goal was to figure out whether there is 1 mafia team or more, and potentially discover who might be mafia. I believe there are two mafia teams. I think three is far-fetched, and one would be "less fun". Also I know I had a discussion with SVS about multiple mafia teams before. I believe she had stated that she prefers smaller teams, but I'm having trouble finding this conversation.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If there's more than one, which you insinuated yourself, why wouldn't they have names to distinguish them?

How many are there?

Juliets said that I suggested the mafia teams have names and I know what they are. I did not; that was a new idea that juliets put in my mouth.

I would agree that if there are two mafia teams, that they would have distinctive names.

Are you then suggesting that juliets knew already that the mafia teams were named, and in questioning you revealed too much?

Yes. I suggested there are two mafia teams. Juliets responded by stating that "That sounds like you not only know there are two teams (i know you responded to this already) but that you knew what the team names were." Juliets brought up the idea of names, but said that I insinuated the existence of names. She put the words in my mouth, which is why I think she has secret knowledge.

Long Con wrote:Also, I agree that it is not unlikely that the Trickster is involved in the Night Polls. Unfortunately, if it's similar to A World Reborn, there's not really much we can do about it. First, there's a really wide variety of possible poll outcomes... could be some good some bad, or there could be one bad one and the rest are neutral, or something else, something we've never seen before.

Do each of the options correspond to a player?

Brown Spider Monkey - ?
Cattle - ?
Plains Zebra - a2thezebra
Yellow-bellied Marmot - Metalmarsh
Polar Bear - ?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If there's more than one, which you insinuated yourself, why wouldn't they have names to distinguish them?

How many are there?

Juliets said that I suggested the mafia teams have names and I know what they are. I did not; that was a new idea that juliets put in my mouth.

I would agree that if there are two mafia teams, that they would have distinctive names.

a2thezebra wrote:Oh yeah? Are you bad?

juliets wrote:Good work Enrique getting yourself lynched. Several people have said it already but I look forward to playing with someone who is as much of an analyst of the game as you are. Please though, less posts so I can better absorb what I am reading, including what you are saying. These last two days went by in kind of a blur.

Metalmarsh, I really don't want to be a pain in the ass but i re-posted my question to you last night and even though you were talking in the thread you didn't answer me. This wasn't supposed to be this big of a deal but it's hard for me to believe you missed it again since I even posted to say it was coming shortly.

Epignosis wrote:I'm three pages behind. Rico, please shut the fuck up sometimes.

thellama73 wrote:

Golden wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I am annoyed that there is no Latin llama option on the poll. I am also annoyed that we both lost a civilian and still have to put up with Rico's nonsense.

Why would you assume rico would still post nonsense? I guess we have lost a civilian but on the flip side we've gained a useful resource. Rico is, I think, one of the best analysts of the game and from his position he could definitely help the town win. I think that is a good outcome.

Past behavior tends to be a predictor of future behavior. I'll admit that I haven't yet read what he has posted after his death, so perhaps I misjudge him. Anyway, not a great lynch result, I would argue.

MacDougall wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Tranq wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Okay, I'm going to finish this episode of Brooklyn 99 and then explain why I think Day 1 was an immense pile of dumb.

Looks like this is the best possible Day 1 result in the game. Do you disagree?

I would agree because I think Rico is a baller civ, but it depends on whether he can still be killed and whether you agree that he's a great civ.

Linki:

Because I want to know how strong your role is. Because I have a plan that depends on me knowing that's going to be kick ass for the civs.

I'm not answering that question, so either ask the Hosts or do your thang the way you plan it (if there is a genuine thang). Don't roll them eyes, if your heart is in the right place, then you'll understand why I can't answer.

Fair deuce!

MacDougall wrote:The fact that Ricochet has self voted makes me feel like he's probably going to get lynched. I remember that part of my role said I couldn't self vote.

If he's civilian I'll be pleasantly surprised. My bet is on indie.

MacDougall wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:...19 pages to catch up on. Whyyyyyyyyyy

Here's my placeholder. I'll be back.

inb4 "not worth reading"

...yeah, you'll hate me

Ya know, I was about to make some snide comment about how you've been spamming the thread to intimidate potential readers, but your post history is really rather on-topic. Short posts, but all of them have content. So a for that; you do you.

Linki w/Blooper: Well, there is a lot of... stuff, but most of it is useful. It's just broken up into lots of inconvenient chunks, and the threads of discussion aren't separated out well. I agree it's been a hard day to follow.

You really must not be trying to understand the context of his posts. He has misrepresented everything. His cases have been weak as piss and baseless and his conviction has been totally misplaced. And Ricochet is a great player so he's doing it intentionally. The question is of his intention not on the validity of what he's saying. For you to actually compliment his content is a major mark against you being genuine.

Boomslang wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh there are already three pages. Which is great from an info perspective, bad from a I'm-drinking-Manhattans-and-wasn't-ready-for-this perspective.

But I like this poll. Lots of different interpretations: what roles people liked, which ones they actually think are in the game. Another theory: could this poll actually be determining the role of one player? It could be like a play-in game in the NCAA tournament, as it were. I don't know how closely the roles have been imported, but if they are faithful, that'd seem to hint against Watari, because there were so many role interactions going on in Death Note.

Tranq's slip of calling Finn McMissile mafia (the role was part of a second civ team) is too easily fact-checkable to be intentional, imo.

Question: Does anyone think this is too defensive? Follow up question: Does anyone remember any other contribution Tranq made to Night 0? Anything at all?

Too defensive?



Look, Tranq didn't make any other contribution to Night 1, and his only post today is commenting how many pages are up already. If we were actually bad together, I would've encouraged him to post a lot more and engage with my "defense." I, as a civ, was giving him the benefit of the doubt, nothing more.

Linki: Heh, nice comeback Rico.

thellama73 wrote:If I had the power to curse people, does anyone think I wouldn't have used it on Rico? Come on.

Black Rock wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

sig wrote:I see, I wouldn't' say it appears contributory at all, minus my one line about Llama. I mean the entire post was basically about Zebra and a book series. I have however, made a few on topic posts. Not many, but when I saw something worth pointing out I did. Which was mainly the video thing, besides that I can't think of anything else big. This phase has been fast with lots of pages, but a good portion doesn't seem to be note worthy. So the fact you point out one fluff post of myself when several people have fluff posts or almost no posts is strange.

If you actually read your post, it isn't contributory. However at a glance the size of the post makes it seem as though you have something to say. If people skim, or do not read it at all, their immediate impression is "Sig is posting big posts, he must be in the thick of things" which is untrue.

Are you two arguing the same point?

I'm clarifying. Sig admits that the content of his post is not and does not look to be contributory. I'm saying that by virtue of it being a sizeable post, with quotes, etc, it looks contributory at first glance regardless of the actual content.

Do you find him more suspicious because he agrees with you?

I find his posts about it odd, and suspicious.

Dom wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Nevermind, I used whilst twice, I'm going blind.

So you admit it!

No one tell him....

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Wow, okay, there is a lot of noise to cut through in this thread. Weirdly, I don't have bad feeling about Ricochet this game, although I do enjoy the back and forth between him and Zebra (who is a girl).

The person I a starting to have bad feelings about is MacDougall. He started off basically accusing a bunch of people of being bad, including Ricochet, in a jokey fashion, which felt like a distractionary tactic, and then he allowed his jokey attack on Rico to morph into a real one, joining Zebra (who is a girl). It feels like opportunism to try to eliminate a dangerous rival early, and I'm not reading his attacks as wholly sincere.

But then again, it's not even day one yet, so all this could change.

Still catching up and this post jumped out at me

1. aGREENed, lots of crap to trudge through for what is essentially a waiting period.

2. Orange you certain this is what you meant? Sounds like you got those two players confused.

3. YELLOW? Anyone home? This is exactly what Rico has been doing. Seriously, take Mac's name out and put Rico's in and tell me that doesn't fit.



3.

The cool thing about these games is that different people can interpret the same text differently

The cool thing about this post is that it did nothing to address the content of the post and only served to rebuff the accusation and discredit DH.

Black Rock wrote:What happened? I left off on page 8 and I just got back to page 20. Most of me does not want to read all of that.

Don't read it. I wish I hadn't.



I'll vote Rico or Llama. Exhausted from this catch up.

sig wrote:I still disagree with this DH, even if a player skims my post which I'd say isn't that big they'd see the first line.

sig wrote:I want an apology also, I'm not sure what I want it for, but by God I want one!

This is obviously a starting fluff, if anything it would make people skip the rest of my post.

I had a few OT lines then this.

sig wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Yes Ricochet is most certainly bullshitting hard. This is not my beautiful Ricochet.

Mac has a role from the TH game, or I'm getting my old people bands mixed up? :P

Another obvious fluff portion. Anyone skimming would see the quotations breaking up the post and at the very least I'd think they would read what I was quoting. Then another quote this time from Llama, and his thing with Zebra, which was done in good fun.

So I highly doubt anyone skimming my post would think it had any OT stuff since the OT stuff was between much more noticeably fluff.
Not to mention like I said in my above post it was Night 0 and like many people I was messing around. I still find it very odd that you single out this post, and make it seem like a bigger deal then it is. Not to mention the fact that Llama quickly agrees with you about it.
I mean he could just be doing that since I made light of a post which he didn't want me to joke about and he was mad that I did this, however I don't know his personality enough to know if that is the case or not, and I doubt a mature adult would get pissy that I made a joke about how he was referring to Zebra. This leads me to think he is either budding up to you for an unknown reason, he is mafia and thought this was good to mention, or he wanted to appear like he was more involved in the game and this was a safe way to do so.

I think it is semi likely that either DH or Llama are mafia.
I also still have some reservations about DH/JJJ for the audio posts.

I notice DH mentions my fluff post after I brought up the points about the audio posts, I don't recall him ever directly answering me about my theory on this while I do remember JJJ doing so. This is another ping for DH in my book.

Black Rock wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

sig wrote:I see, I wouldn't' say it appears contributory at all, minus my one line about Llama. I mean the entire post was basically about Zebra and a book series. I have however, made a few on topic posts. Not many, but when I saw something worth pointing out I did. Which was mainly the video thing, besides that I can't think of anything else big. This phase has been fast with lots of pages, but a good portion doesn't seem to be note worthy. So the fact you point out one fluff post of myself when several people have fluff posts or almost no posts is strange.

If you actually read your post, it isn't contributory. However at a glance the size of the post makes it seem as though you have something to say. If people skim, or do not read it at all, their immediate impression is "Sig is posting big posts, he must be in the thick of things" which is untrue.

Are you two arguing the same point?

sig wrote:I see, I wouldn't' say it appears contributory at all, minus my one line about Llama. I mean the entire post was basically about Zebra and a book series. I have however, made a few on topic posts. Not many, but when I saw something worth pointing out I did. Which was mainly the video thing, besides that I can't think of anything else big. This phase has been fast with lots of pages, but a good portion doesn't seem to be note worthy. So the fact you point out one fluff post of myself when several people have fluff posts or almost no posts is strange.

sig wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

sig wrote:I want an apology also, I'm not sure what I want it for, but by God I want one!

So I read the back and forth between Ricohet, Mac, and Zebra and honestly most of it went in one ear and out the other. I think Llama raises an interesting point about Mac, Zebra seems to be acting like Zebra. Rico seems to be posting a good amount of stuff.

What does everyone think of JJJ? He posted those voice messages, but after I raised my concern of them I don't recall anymore of his posts.

MacDougall wrote:Yes Ricochet is most certainly bullshitting hard. This is not my beautiful Ricochet.

Mac has a role from the TH game, or I'm getting my old people bands mixed up? :P

thellama73 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Zebra (who is a girl)

Zebra (who is a girl)

I think that you think that I take myself more seriously than I actually do. Yes, I identify as a girl, no, I'm not going to antagonize anyone that doesn't agree.[/quote
I'll be the judge of that.

Well I mean she hasn't threatened to sue you, or accuse you of using improper pronouns, or kidnap you, lock you in a hole, keep you there for about 3 to 5 days, hang you from her second story house when she tells you that she is taking you upstairs to get a shower, and then after hanging you skin you to make a man suit for her to wear. (I in no way mean to be offensive so I hope nobody takes it that way, I truly doubt Zebra is a Serial Killer, BUT if she is I just want you to know Zebra I wouldn't make a very good victim at all and I'd never turn you in to the police when Llama's skinned body turns up in a river with a cocoon shoved up his throat )

So I'd say she was okay.

Nice fluff post here, broseph.

It is a good fluff post isn't it? I'm quite proud of it one of my better jokey/fluff posts.

thellama73 wrote:Right now I want to vote for SIg though, for that obvious fluff I pointed out earlier, and DH is pointing out now.

So I didn't take Dh post that serious, however know llama has also brought it up. What is wrong with some fluff day 1? I see lots of fluff day 1 this is quite suspicious to me. If I were to vote I'd consider Llama.

Black Rock wrote:What happened? I left off on page 8 and I just got back to page 20. Most of me does not want to read all of that.

Matt wrote:Three posts ago you had 5555 posts, DH.

Sweet.

Linki - MM is bad. Remember, Lorab, when I invited you to vote for MM or Turnip in M:AWR and you weren't sold quite then either? Same thing here. Do it. DO IT!!!

Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh there are already three pages. Which is great from an info perspective, bad from a I'm-drinking-Manhattans-and-wasn't-ready-for-this perspective.

But I like this poll. Lots of different interpretations: what roles people liked, which ones they actually think are in the game. Another theory: could this poll actually be determining the role of one player? It could be like a play-in game in the NCAA tournament, as it were. I don't know how closely the roles have been imported, but if they are faithful, that'd seem to hint against Watari, because there were so many role interactions going on in Death Note.

Tranq's slip of calling Finn McMissile mafia (the role was part of a second civ team) is too easily fact-checkable to be intentional, imo.

Ricochet wrote:Now why did you go an' vote me? You only said I look least civvie, not that I'm bad.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Ricochet

Ricochet wrote:There is no gimmick.

Draconus wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Draconus wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:???

The yellow portion of DH's former post is what I was referring to.
It was a meaningless joke.

Rico's jokey attacks on everyone morphed into whatever the fuck I just spent an hour reading.

I was joking. I knew what you meant

Draconus wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:???

The yellow portion of DH's former post is what I was referring to.
It was a meaningless joke.

sig wrote:I want an apology also, I'm not sure what I want it for, but by God I want one!

So I read the back and forth between Ricohet, Mac, and Zebra and honestly most of it went in one ear and out the other. I think Llama raises an interesting point about Mac, Zebra seems to be acting like Zebra. Rico seems to be posting a good amount of stuff.

What does everyone think of JJJ? He posted those voice messages, but after I raised my concern of them I don't recall anymore of his posts.

MacDougall wrote:Yes Ricochet is most certainly bullshitting hard. This is not my beautiful Ricochet.

Mac has a role from the TH game, or I'm getting my old people bands mixed up? :P

thellama73 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Zebra (who is a girl)

Zebra (who is a girl)

I think that you think that I take myself more seriously than I actually do. Yes, I identify as a girl, no, I'm not going to antagonize anyone that doesn't agree.[/quote
I'll be the judge of that.

Well I mean she hasn't threatened to sue you, or accuse you of using improper pronouns, or kidnap you, lock you in a hole, keep you there for about 3 to 5 days, hang you from her second story house when she tells you that she is taking you upstairs to get a shower, and then after hanging you skin you to make a man suit for her to wear. (I in no way mean to be offensive so I hope nobody takes it that way, I truly doubt Zebra is a Serial Killer, BUT if she is I just want you to know Zebra I wouldn't make a very good victim at all and I'd never turn you in to the police when Llama's skinned body turns up in a river with a cocoon shoved up his throat )

So I'd say she was okay.

thellama73 wrote:Wow, okay, there is a lot of noise to cut through in this thread. Weirdly, I don't have bad feeling about Ricochet this game, although I do enjoy the back and forth between him and Zebra (who is a girl).

The person I a starting to have bad feelings about is MacDougall. He started off basically accusing a bunch of people of being bad, including Ricochet, in a jokey fashion, which felt like a distractionary tactic, and then he allowed his jokey attack on Rico to morph into a real one, joining Zebra (who is a girl). It feels like opportunism to try to eliminate a dangerous rival early, and I'm not reading his attacks as wholly sincere.

But then again, it's not even day one yet, so all this could change.

Ricochet wrote:GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING CHAMPIESSSNAAAM

DH, Elo and Epig confirmed never leaving my red rainbow spectrum for making me read through their two-page banter in my morning catch-up.

bcornett24 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

bcornett24 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I wonder if 48 hours is enough time or not enough time.

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Yes may I assist you?

Enough time for what?

bcornett24 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I wonder if 48 hours is enough time or not enough time.

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nijuukyugou wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Epi confimed for prescriptivist scum.

I'm a moderate when it comes to that debate. Perhaps the only thing on which I am a moderate

DID I HEAR SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT ENGLISH GRAMMAR??

Epignosis wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Epi confimed for prescriptivist scum.

I'm a moderate when it comes to that debate. Perhaps the only thing on which I am a moderate

S~V~S wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Boomslang is bad. Discuss.

That was only our first take and we would have done it again except I love Abigail's candid comment at the end.

Unfortunately, I cannot hear these. This is part of why we asked people not to post game related posts via Vocaroo. Could you please provide a transcript?

Thank You