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If this were covering all of LOST you would be Dogen. The guy who randomly shows up near the end and tries to help the good guys, but doesn't accomplish anything and dies.MovingPictures07 wrote:FUCK, I knew there was a reason S~V~S was phoning it in this period. Dammit. My ISO was so wrong.
Sorry, guys, I totally blew this one.
It was fun though, Golden, thanks for subbing me in.
I will also vote there. I'm meant to be on this Island. I have a destiny!Epignosis wrote:If you vote elsewhere, I will follow you, so you are guaranteed a second vote there.G-Man wrote:Faraday may be the most obvious choice but I'm trying to figure out if I want to vote for him or not. Low-hanging fruit and all that.
Unless of course you get cute and vote for me.
I still don't think that necessarily clears you. I know I'm civ, and with G-Man also confirmed I can't see how this game could have an unkillable (until Night 4) confirmed civ as well as a civ who comes back to life and has a kill on top of it. It just doesn't seem balanced at all to me.Quin wrote:Short answer: That's not my full role card. It's half.DFaraday wrote:So you're saying that you're Nikki AND Paulo? And that you had a kill even though your role card said you're a vanilla civ? At the very least, the role card was leaving out an incredible amount of information about you; at worst, it was actively misleading. I don't see why I should believe anything about your role card, or that you're civ.Quin wrote:Surely this answers to that query:DFaraday wrote:That same post also said you're dead, and yet here you are.Quin wrote:My role card says so.DFaraday wrote:No it doesn't. Besides, how do we know you're civ?Quin wrote:Given G-Man and I have a power role of some sort each, DF's survival has a connection to the mafia.
Quin wrote:Razzle dazzle!G-Man wrote:From your description of one centric episode and seven total, coupled with this being Season 3, I'd venture to guess that you are Nikki and/or Paulo. I'd have to check but that sounds about right, as Rose and Bernard had their centric episode in Season 2.Quin wrote:According to Lostpedia they had one 'centric' episode, but like 7 overall.
I don't know if you're trying to guess or if I should just tell you
If Nikki, your catch phrase is: "Razzle dazzle!"
If Paulo, you just stand there looking like a lost but devoted puppy dog until your better half shows her true colors and chucks a paralyzing spider on you out of greed.
Either way, you got the short end of the stick this game, unless you've got crazy awesome powrs.
"Acting like you're stupid people..."
So you're saying that you're Nikki AND Paulo? And that you had a kill even though your role card said you're a vanilla civ? At the very least, the role card was leaving out an incredible amount of information about you; at worst, it was actively misleading. I don't see why I should believe anything about your role card, or that you're civ.Quin wrote:Surely this answers to that query:DFaraday wrote:That same post also said you're dead, and yet here you are.Quin wrote:My role card says so.DFaraday wrote:No it doesn't. Besides, how do we know you're civ?Quin wrote:Given G-Man and I have a power role of some sort each, DF's survival has a connection to the mafia.
Quin wrote:Razzle dazzle!G-Man wrote:From your description of one centric episode and seven total, coupled with this being Season 3, I'd venture to guess that you are Nikki and/or Paulo. I'd have to check but that sounds about right, as Rose and Bernard had their centric episode in Season 2.Quin wrote:According to Lostpedia they had one 'centric' episode, but like 7 overall.
I don't know if you're trying to guess or if I should just tell you
If Nikki, your catch phrase is: "Razzle dazzle!"
If Paulo, you just stand there looking like a lost but devoted puppy dog until your better half shows her true colors and chucks a paralyzing spider on you out of greed.
Either way, you got the short end of the stick this game, unless you've got crazy awesome powrs.
"Acting like you're stupid people..."
That same post also said you're dead, and yet here you are.Quin wrote:My role card says so.DFaraday wrote:No it doesn't. Besides, how do we know you're civ?Quin wrote:Given G-Man and I have a power role of some sort each, DF's survival has a connection to the mafia.
No it doesn't. Besides, how do we know you're civ?Quin wrote:Given G-Man and I have a power role of some sort each, DF's survival has a connection to the mafia.
No I didn't. I said your answer was unsatisfactory to me. I thought Llama's thought process was pretty straightforward: he voted Sorsha, started taking suspicion, then said he would switch to me if other people were willing, but for the time being he would stay on the most viable choice. In real life I don't agree with that strategy, but I understand it, especially in Mafia.S~V~S wrote:I voted for you becasue you asked me a question, I answered it, and then you said, basically, that I didn't answer it. Like as if someone had put me into a possible list of suspects, and you decided to suspect me. It felt opportunistic to me.DFaraday wrote:If someone could outline the case on me, that'd be great.
Can you elaborate?nutella wrote:Voting for DF again. I don't feel any better about him, in fact worse, after how the last lynch went down.
S~V~S wrote:I don't like to bother my friends with trivia, so I Google things. It takes all types to make the world go around.thellama73 wrote:I don't google things I can ask my friends about. And if I vote for Faraday now, I put my own life in peril, which I am not in the mood to do.S~V~S wrote:Llama~
"What is LOST?"
Google results: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is ... 8&oe=utf-8
Took me 4 seconds
And I will take you seriously if you give real answers and stop goofing around. If you suspect Faraday, then vote for him! You don't feel even remotely sincere to me, and you put someone you don't actually seem to suspect in danger. That concerns me. Even goofing around, when you are sincere this comes through. I am not seeing it.
So you would rather leave your vote on the person who you don't actually suspect, instead of the person you DO suspect, and who you already named as your suspect? Becasue voting for the person you actually do suspect will get you killed, whereas just naming him won't?
I know you like to be quirky and quixotic and cultivate this image, but you make no sense right now. I am Okey Dokey with my vote.
Iam taking another hit of Nyquil and going to bed.
This is the only reasoning Daisy gives for voting Llama at all. She made a lengthy post after the lynch, but did not address her reasons for having voted him then either. Given the timing of her vote, I would guess that if Speed is bad she could be a teammate trying to save him. If he's not, then she looks like a bandwagoning civ.Spacedaisy wrote:Of the three leading, I am most comfortable with a llama lynch. I am at work and can't post much more.
Voting llama
Sorsha's vote makes sense, considering that she had several votes on herself at that point (including Llama's). Since Llama already had a vote, Sorsha voting there is simple self-preservation.Sorsha wrote:Put my vote on llama for now. I'll change it later if saving myself is a possibility.
SVS is the first of the Llama voters, and also had the most to say about him. Interestingly, her initial vote doesn't sound as if she intends to keep it there.S~V~S wrote:I wonder if Sorsha noticed she had three votes when she was in here.
One vote on a person for a silly reason, ha ha lulz. Dropping a second vote on someone for a silly reason, not cool. Dropping a third vote, what baddie would do that?
I hope to see votes moving there or better reasons put forth.
So dropping a temp vote on Llama for lulz. If he takes his vote more seriously, I will too.
Llama was making sense here, he was trying to vote in such a way as to maximize his chances of survival. I find it suspect that SVS would paint that as "quixotic" without acknowledging Llama's obvious reasoning for doing so?S~V~S wrote:I don't like to bother my friends with trivia, so I Google things. It takes all types to make the world go around.thellama73 wrote:I don't google things I can ask my friends about. And if I vote for Faraday now, I put my own life in peril, which I am not in the mood to do.S~V~S wrote:Llama~
"What is LOST?"
Google results: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is ... 8&oe=utf-8
Took me 4 seconds
And I will take you seriously if you give real answers and stop goofing around. If you suspect Faraday, then vote for him! You don't feel even remotely sincere to me, and you put someone you don't actually seem to suspect in danger. That concerns me. Even goofing around, when you are sincere this comes through. I am not seeing it.
So you would rather leave your vote on the person who you don't actually suspect, instead of the person you DO suspect, and who you already named as your suspect? Becasue voting for the person you actually do suspect will get you killed, whereas just naming him won't?
I know you like to be quirky and quixotic and cultivate this image, but you make no sense right now. I am Okey Dokey with my vote.
Iam taking another hit of Nyquil and going to bed.
Nutella's reason for voting Llama is due to him following Quin's meaningless Sorsha vote. As someone who voted Speed for the same reason, I can't fault Nutella for doing that. She also brings up Speed's smoke monster references, but votes for Llama. Why she picked one over the other, I'm not sure.nutella wrote:Huh? Why? He literally said there was no reasoning behind that vote. Why follow it? I think Quin is civ, but that doesn't mean I'll blindly follow his vote. Do you have reasons to suspect Sorsha? I don't.thellama73 wrote:Quin is the only one in this game talking any sense, so I am following his vote on Sorsha.But I have reason to suspect you.
*vote llama*
Also, have you hinted at your role at all? Even if you haven't watched the show you should be able to find a quote or something from your character (just the superficial information Quin found about his character was enough for us fans to deduce who it is). I may have missed something though.
On another note, I don't think I've ever seen DFaraday this active on a day 1, lol. Maybe it's because he's especially interested in the theme and the roleplaying/references, but it still feels unusual coming from him. But I do agree with his assessment of speedchuck's vote. I could probably just as well vote for speed since he has the same problems as llama. And his only attempt at hinting has been multiple references to the smoke monster. Not sure what's going on there.
Why would I vote for a teammate Day 1, then leave my vote on him to the point where he is tied for the lead at EoD?Spacedaisy wrote:speedchuck wrote:Am I a bold baddie? I could give you my metaread here, but it'd sound bad coming from me.S~V~S wrote:Personally, I think Llama looks scummier than you. He was the first to put a second vote on someone for a silly reason. I can't imagine someone being bad and piling a third silly vote on someone. That is why I voted for him, not you. But I have seen very bold baddies do very bold things to fall back on the wifom.speedchuck wrote:Those who have their vote placed on me:
Is it because you don't like what my actions have been? Or because you think they come from a scummy place. Do explain.
Are you a bold baddie?
Do you honestly think Sorsha is bad? If not do you plan to move your vote?
I suspect Sorsha more than Llama, and thus am unable to move my vote ATM.
Hm.
Vote DfaradayAnd now you voted for Dom? What happened to your Day 1 vote and recommending others vote for DF? Now that he was up for a possible lynch you suddenly throw your vote on Dom?speedchuck wrote:Eyy!Quin wrote:hey what's up
Bunch of random wagons. Recommending Dfaraday.
Are we looking at a Dom/DF/speedchuck baddie team here?
Show me where I freaked out.notsawyer540 wrote:You freaked out about me placing my vote on you and accused me of overreacting even though there was still a long time until poll close. Then you waited until Quin placed a vote on me so you could do the same yourself. Seems predatory to me.
How am I overreacting?notsawyer540 wrote:lol I saw my name in that triple or quadruple quote clusterfuck and didn't realize you were replying to Quin and not me. I thought you were replying to me directly, but addressing it toward everyone else. But I'm keeping my vote on you and I'll explain why in a sec.DFaraday wrote:Overreaction much? I expressed my thoughts on the subject, then explicitly said I wanted to hear from you. I haven't even voted for you. It was your phrasing more than anything, that whole, "Then I'm definitely considering INH" bit. It made it sound as if you put in more thought than what was essentially a joke vote.I didn't notice that you were one of the people slinging that garbage. I just saw that multiple people said something, but from my perspective DF was pushing for it kind of oddly. Hard to explain, but it was a gut feeling.Quin wrote:I'm gonna put a vote on sawyer. This is his response to the poop I flung at him about his INH vote, which isn't directed to me but to somebody who was on board with what I had to say. In the same post he accuses DF and votes for him, which looks like an attempt at deflection. The second paragraph is something that could also be specifically said about me, so why not me?No. You were hoping someone else would vote for me first and you got it. I never said I wouldn't change my vote for you, but your overreaction and the way you waited until Quin voted for me first has me convinced that keeping my vote on you is the right call.DFaraday wrote:I'm going to put a vote on Notsawyer for now since I was hoping he would discuss his vote after I responded, and so far he hasn't. That makes it seem all the more out of left field.
His first paragraph was fine enough, but he followed it up by saying that by not addressing him directly, I was behaving suspiciously, even though Quin had done pretty much the same thing to Notsawyer. Notsawyer framed my post as being an attempt to convince people to vote for him, when all I did was throw out my thoughts on his post, THEN IMMEDIATELY ask for his input. Following that up with a vote for me in the same post is what solidified it as an overreaction to me, especially rich considering his qualm with me was due to me supposedly not being open enough to dialogue.Dom wrote: What was an appropriate reaction? Did you think there was an appropriate reaction?
Why's that? He interpreted my statements in the worst light and voted me in the same post.Dom wrote:Why are you going after G?S~V~S wrote:Exactly.G-Man wrote:Further more, why wouldn't Nikki/Paulo be just as likely to be a cover as anyone else? If Golden randomized the cover roles again this game, then there's no need to dismiss the notion that Nikki/Paulo could be baddie covers. It would just be a cruel twist of fate that one or two of the most despised characters on Lost got used as cover roles. In fact, it adds a level of meta-WIFOM to it all, now doesn't it?
Hey, being bossy is fun. Maybe we should let Jack and Locke hog all the fun from now on.
You seem to be the one who thinks people are suspect based on their roleplay claims. It seems that you are trying to suspectpeople BASED on their covers, when you say yourself:
You seem to be the one pushing the thought that this matters. And if Golden randomized it, it doesn't.If Golden randomized the cover roles again this game
How do we feel about this?DFaraday wrote:Overreaction much? I expressed my thoughts on the subject, then explicitly said I wanted to hear from you. I haven't even voted for you. It was your phrasing more than anything, that whole, "Then I'm definitely considering INH" bit. It made it sound as if you put in more thought than what was essentially a joke vote.notsawyer540 wrote:About what? I didn't have any suspicions, so I said I was considering voting for INH just because we have differing opinions on aspects of the show. I was mostly dicking around. As far as Quin, that bit's covered in the part you quoted. I misread what Quin wrote and thought that he had said that his role PM didn't specify an alignment because I have a terrible habit of skim reading sometimes.
I do find you suspicious now, however, because of the way your post is addressed toward everyone except me. Seems to me you're trying to convince people to vote for me. If you really had any interest in my response, you would've directed your inquiry about me to me.
Vote DFaraday
As a side note, lately I've been seeing a lot of "if you were civvie you wouldn't do x" or "a civvie never does y". I'm not a fan.
Not great on my end!
That's so Season 2.G-Man wrote: Hey, being bossy is fun. Maybe we should let Jack and Locke hog all the fun from now on.
Overreaction much? I expressed my thoughts on the subject, then explicitly said I wanted to hear from you. I haven't even voted for you. It was your phrasing more than anything, that whole, "Then I'm definitely considering INH" bit. It made it sound as if you put in more thought than what was essentially a joke vote.notsawyer540 wrote:About what? I didn't have any suspicions, so I said I was considering voting for INH just because we have differing opinions on aspects of the show. I was mostly dicking around. As far as Quin, that bit's covered in the part you quoted. I misread what Quin wrote and thought that he had said that his role PM didn't specify an alignment because I have a terrible habit of skim reading sometimes.
I do find you suspicious now, however, because of the way your post is addressed toward everyone except me. Seems to me you're trying to convince people to vote for me. If you really had any interest in my response, you would've directed your inquiry about me to me.
Vote DFaraday
Notsawyer's reasoning sounds quite similar to that used by Llama and Speed, which is to say, none at all. As we saw with Llama, that doesn't make him bad, but the way that little sequence played out it sounded like he used your clarification to strengthen his resolve on voting INH, as if it made INH more suspicious. There's also the fact that INH was killed last night.Quin wrote:Throwing this back into the front line. Give me thoughts, people.Quin wrote:'Definitely considering' sounds kind of confident for a vote that's been justified by the lols.notsawyer540 wrote:Quin wrote:Let me get that classic Quin tinfoil out into the thread now rather than later.
G-Man's role card (as posted in the OP) doesn't specify alignment.Sorry, misread that. Definitely considering voting INH right now.Quin wrote:huhnotsawyer540 wrote:Thinking about voting Quin because his PM didn't specify an alignment. Also thinking about voting INH because he's wrong as fuck about literally everything except for Sayid. Leaning INH because how the fuck can you be that wrong and not be evil?
That's the point, isn't it? If the baddies didn't have fake claims, the civvies could just all throw out their claims immediately and that would be the end of it.notsawyer540 wrote:I wonder how common the fake claim thing is. That would make it impossible to know if people are who they say they are.
We've angered the Island. I've done everything you wanted me to do, so why are you doing this to me?!?Golden wrote:A tie?
The island is disappointed. This is not what you were brought here to do.
All participants in the tie have been marked by the island for death.
DF
Quin
Epignosis
llama
S~V~S
sorsha
nutella
spacedaisy
You are all eligible for death.
How's that? You call my vote opportunistic, but is it any more so than following a literally meaningless vote? That allows you to avoid any discussion or culpability by framing your vote as meaningless. Speed did the same.thellama73 wrote:I would never dream of telling you who to vote for, but DFaraday is almost certainly bad if you care about such things.S~V~S wrote:At this point, I don't particularly know, the votes for Sorsha are the only thing to stand out to me so far. Who do you think I should vote for?thellama73 wrote:Who would you prefer I vote for, SVS?
I just really dislike it when people put others in a lynchable position for lulz. Probably an artifact of when we did not have changeable votes.
Huh? Why? He literally said there was no reasoning behind that vote. Why follow it? I think Quin is civ, but that doesn't mean I'll blindly follow his vote. Do you have reasons to suspect Sorsha? I don't.nutella wrote:thellama73 wrote:Quin is the only one in this game talking any sense, so I am following his vote on Sorsha.
But I have reason to suspect you.
[/quotew]But what if they're not doing it for no reason? What if this, all of this, everything we've done and said and voted had a purpose?thellama73 wrote:It's opportunistic to go after the people doing things for no reason.DFaraday wrote:I'm going with Speedchuck for now because I don't like this random push for Sorsha. Especially considering that there is no case on her to begin with, it would be easy for a baddie to toss off a vote there without making any concrete statements.
Well, they weren't acting for the good of the Island, in any case.Spacedaisy wrote:... I find G-Man's vote for Quin because he claimed Nikki to be questionable. I was a baddie in season 2 and Golden provided good cover as far as fake role claims. Why on earth would he give them shitty role claims like that this time around? Also, just because a lot of fans hated Nikki and Paulo (I enjoyed their story, it just was not very well written into already established characters. Plus Paulo was some excellent eye candy, if you ask me, lol), that doesn't mean they are baddies.
I've been here all along, Charlie. You didn't hear a word I said about the moths, did you? Just tell me, are you...are you using again? When you threw out the Virgin Mary statues, did you hold any back? You need to let the Island help you.G-Man wrote:For being the last person who hasn't checked in. You got a problem with that? Oh wait, that's Ana-Lucia's bit. I mean, oi! I don't see a problem with it, do you? Where's Jack and Locke when you need them for a sense of purpose and direction?S~V~S wrote:Was that random? Or becasue she did not check in yet?
You all everybody...
DFaraday wrote:slaw their way out
G-Man, have you ever looked closely at a moth when it's on its way out of its cocoon? It makes its way out even though it doesn't have long to live. Sphinx moths live two, maybe three months. Yucca moths, two days if they're lucky. And yet, all kinds of moths struggle and slaw their way out just the same. Why do they do that, G-Man? Why do they claw their way out knowing they're going to die so soon? They do it because the moths know that with what little time they have left, they are meant to accomplish something. They have a destiny to fulfill. Just like us, G-Man. So use the time you have left to accomplish what the Island wants you to accomplish. Figure out what you're needed for. Then do it, before your time runs out.G-Man wrote:Feeling good about my odds, mates. You all everybody...
