The Syndicate

Great job, baddies, and wonderful game, Mongoose!

I was horrendous at guessing alignments this game. But I was right all along that Llama was civ.

See, this is what happens when I try to be a helpful civvie. Good luck guys, but I think the baddies pretty much have us beat at this point. Look at Hedge and Eloh, I'm telling you.

thellama73 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Elo, so why pick the guy he said was civ earlier? I would have voted for Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have to agree. Llama could have voted for me or me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have voted for me or me or me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have to agree. Llama could have to agree. Llama could have voted for me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he said was civ earli

Elohcin only had 2 votes, since Made misvoted. To save myself I had to eiether vote for you or Boogs, and I repeatedly said that I found Boogs suspicious. It is true that I momentarily had pause after Keterman was lynched, but I ultimately thought Boogs' behavior was suspicious enough to overcome that. I am confident that whether I had voted for you or Boogs, we would have lynched a civ, and if I had allowed myself to be lynched, we would have lost a civ, so I had to go for the lesser of three evils.

I would really like to lynch Hedgeowl, and I hope I have the opportunity today instead of being forced to vote for someone I think is civilian.

Okay, it looks like Llama would have pushed for a Hedge lynch today, so I'm wondering if her team killed him preemptively. I also think Elo's comment about Llama's team killing him was sketchy, but I have to get to work, so I'll just go ahead and *vote Hedge* now.

EBWOP: Made, I see your point, but I think that would be more likely if they had killed someone who wasn't so outspoken and attention-grabbing as Llama. I think any competent baddie team would have left him on the board to keep drawing heat unless he was posing a threat to them.

The only explanation I can think of is that whoever killed Llama was afraid he would make a case on one of their team, since Llama has been a very outspoken player. If that's the case, I'll go back and see whom Llama was suspecting the most.

The first Pope spoke Aramaic, that's close.

And I don't see what Made is getting at. We can't think someone has a good point, then develop our own ideas from there?

thellama73 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Elo, so why pick the guy he said was civ earlier? I would have voted for Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have to agree. Llama could have voted for me or me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have voted for me or me or me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have to agree. Llama could have to agree. Llama could have voted for me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he said was civ earli

Elohcin only had 2 votes, since Made misvoted. To save myself I had to eiether vote for you or Boogs, and I repeatedly said that I found Boogs suspicious. It is true that I momentarily had pause after Keterman was lynched, but I ultimately thought Boogs' behavior was suspicious enough to overcome that. I am confident that whether I had voted for you or Boogs, we would have lynched a civ, and if I had allowed myself to be lynched, we would have lost a civ, so I had to go for the lesser of three evils.

I would really like to lynch Hedgeowl, and I hope I have the opportunity today instead of being forced to vote for someone I think is civilian.

I suppose teammates with Hedge? I suppose that's fair, I suppose teammates with Hedge? I suppose teammates with Hedge? I suppose that's fair, I hadn't realized about Made misvoting. Who do you think are think are that's fair, I hadn't realized about Made misvoting. Who do you think are think are teammates with Hedge? I hadn't realized about Made misvoting. Who do you think are think are teammates with Hedge? I suppose that's fair, I suppose think are think are teammates with Hedge? I hadn't realized

Elo, so why pick the guy he said was civ earlier? I would have voted for Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have to agree. Llama could have voted for me or me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have voted for me or me or me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he guy he said was civ earlier? I would have to agree. Llama could have to agree. Llama could have voted for me or Elo, so why pick the guy he guy he said was civ earli

I am surprised he got so many votes after all that earlier discussion about to be Felt Samples. I am surprised he got surprised he got surprised Boogs turned out him being confirmed civvie. I'm not surprised Boogs turned out him being confirmed civvie. I'm not surprised he got so many votes after all that earlier discussion about to be Felt Samples. I am surprised he got surprised Boogs turned out to be Felt Samples. I am surprised he got surprised Boogs turned out him being confirmed civvie. I'm not

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Also, I want to point out that there were already plenty of lynch suspects on Day 2, in particular Llama, Elo, Boogs, and Hedge. If I were a baddie I would either try to save one of my teammates, if any were up for lynching, or else throw them under the bus with a last minute vote if I couldn't save them. What I would not do is make a very half-hearted attempt at fueling a random third party suspicion that didn't have much traction to begin with. Why would I call attention to myself like that when I could just try to blend in with the big names until I needed to cast a decisive vote?

Piggy backing on something I am saying is half hearted?

I would say posting exactly two sentences about Bullz before voting him, with no attempt to get anyone else to do likewise, is pretty half-hearted, yes.

Anyway, I am obviously voting Elo.

Also, I want to point out that there were already plenty of lynch suspects on Day 2, in particular Llama, Elo, Boogs, and Hedge. If I were a baddie I would either try to save one of my teammates, if any were up for lynching, or else throw them under the bus with a last minute vote if I couldn't save them. What I would not do is make a very half-hearted attempt at fueling a random third party suspicion that didn't have much traction to begin with. Why would I call attention to myself like that when I could just try to blend in with the big names until I needed to cast a decisive vote?

Dom wrote: I'm very likely voting DFaraday because this si so so so so false.
He intended to do nothing but lynch bullz. I know this because he literally hadn't mentioned anything of a Bullzeye suspicion until I did. He based his suspicion off of my observations.

In addition, we know that given a choice between Elo and Bullz that Dfaraday will pick Bullz because that's literally what he did last lynch,

So please, DFaraday, please please please, detail your experience with Bullzeye. From accusation (original) to acquittal (as you put it), please tell me why you were bringing "attention to him" and why you are "somewhat satisfied with how he handled it"-- I am having a hard time believing that.

Okay, here's my detailed recreation of my Bullz thought process.

*skimming thread, as I unfortunately sometimes do*

*mostly ignoring the German and insanified posts*

"Oh, Dom raised an interesting point. I'll go back and look at Bulz' posts."

"Hmm, that does seem odd. And now that it's been brought up, he's still posting the same way. I wonder if he's trying not to be clear."

"Eh, I don't know about Boogs or Elo. I'll stay out of that for now. I'll just vote Bullz to get his attention*

*Bullz replies and comes across genuine*

"Oh, Bullz has replied and came across genuine. Fair enough, I'm glad he didn't get all weirdly defensive about it."

THE END

Since I seem to have set everyone off, I'm going to try to explain my thought process in excruciating detail, as follows:

I didn't have any strong suspicions on Day 2. I didn't feel suspicious of Llama (and still don't), and was a bit pinged by Elo, but not enough to get involved in that kerfuffle. I generally don't vote for high vote getters unless I feel strongly about them. I do, however, have a history of throwing a vote on someone who has pinged me but is otherwise not up for lynching, just to address them and try to get discussion surrounding them. That's what I did with Bullz; I never felt certain he was bad, but I thought his behavior raised my suspicion enough to bring up discussion about him, hence my nominal vote.

Since then, my view of Bullz has improved a bit (although I'm still not convinced he's a civ), as he does seem to have acquitted himself fairly well. Otherwise, I feel like Llama, Dom and Roxy are probably civvies, and have little read on the rest of the board. Since I believe that Hedge is a baddie, and Elo is currently my second highest suspicion by default, I suggested that they could possibly be teammates (which only makes sense, because we only have one bad team. I'm not sure why that part was an issue).

Were the lynch to come down to Elo and Bullz, I would vote Elo, since I don't have any other outlying suspicions I would want to throw into the ring. Were it Llama vs. Elo, I would vote Elo, again, because I do find her suspicious and don't have anyone to call out. Were it Hedge vs. Elo, I would go with Hedge because I feel more strongly about her.

In conclusion, I did what I set out to do with Bullz: I brought attention to him, and am somewhat satisfied with how he handled it. As of this point, I will be voting to actually contribute to the lynch, unless another obscure ping should arise.

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Above I meant to say, POSSIBLY a way of avoiding suspicion.

When I said "thus a way to avoid committing to anything", I didn't want to sound like I'm convinced that's what Bullz was doing. I meant that it raised the possibility in my mind, and that's why I put a vote on him.

Above I meant to say, POSSIBLY a way of avoiding suspicion.

While I still maintain that Bullz' posts seemed needlessly convoluted, and thus a way to avoid committing to anything, I wasn't seriously pushing for his lynch. I occasionally throw a vote on someone who pings me a little if I know they're probably not getting more votes, just to kind of call them out. I wasn't feeling strongly about either Elo or Llama (although of the two I'd think Elo is more likely bad). I'm not sold on Bullz being a civvie now that he's explained himself, but I don't plan on continuing to push you, since I'm thinking it's more likely that Hedge and possibly Elo are baddies.

Also, I'll go with Oz. It's my favorite of the three franchises.

sabie12 wrote:Well I am off to work so I need to do my vote now because my supervisor will be there. Is that a green font thing? Not sure. Anyways, my vote is going to llama purely because he has been very hard on me to I can assume distract others from whatever he is planning and take the spotlight off of himself. I believe that is how the game is played. Hopefully I'll be able to sneak on later and see how this all turns out.

That is how the game is played!

Anyway, I don't think I'll be on again before it closes, so I'll just vote Bullz. And I still don't get why there's so much talk about MR.

All these curses are making the thread nearly incomprehensible.

I agree with Dom that it's weird that Bullz doesn't seem to be trying very hard to get his point across clearly. He may have a tricky curse to deal with, but generally fewer words will make the gist of the post pretty clear.

I'm still not convinced about Llama. I'm just reading go-getter civvie on his part.

I do think Sabie came across as genuine in her few posts, and she'd probably be a bit more active if she did have teammates.

I'm voting green. I'm a traditionalist.

I'm not liking where this is going. Having said that, Boogs reads as genuine to me. Keterman, on the other hand, just kind of jumped in after Boogs made his case and dropped a vote on Llama. I found that a bit off, so I'll vote Keterman.

I hope supatown stays a thing, I like it.

Also, I'm feeling like Llama is probably a proactive civ, so I need to look over the rest to see where I stand on the board. Most players haven't made much impression so far.

Boogs wrote: Um dude, it's a holiday weekend? Can you cut a kitty some slack? Geesh. That's a little pre-game throwing down voting for me already when the game just started.

There are people who actually celebrate Labor Day? To me it's just That Monday I'm Not Working.

Yay game!

I quite like tweed, which is a woolen fabric, so I went with wool.