The Syndicate

Great game. I thought Nev was possibly Jack, FH was the splicer or Peaches, and I knew SD and Devin were Cohen and Dancer. Sad that things didn't quite work in my favor, but I enjoyed the game so much I feel like a winner anyway.

I tried to kill Mata and was forced to kill Kate, by the way. The first cause of my loss. The second is when Devin survived that 50/50 lynch. And the third is when he also survived my night kill attempt. I feel if either of those things had gone my way, I might have won.

But I knew I could never get SD and Devin's vote or even Nev's, so I decided to bow out.

For a brief moment, I thought Nev was Jack, and that he and Hedge were the last two in his team. I kept thinking they had pulled this master plan to reveal Hedge, then have Nev slide to the end because no one would suspect him as Team Adam after that. Also, I thought that he had somehow signaled Cohen with like a smilie or something and they had agreed to make it to the end together. The whole thing seemed way cooler in my head.

Awesome game. Huge thanks to KineticPhoto for hosting it.

Nevinera wrote:Voted Aces, obviously.

I'll miss you most of all, Scarecrow.

Voted for myself because I know whats on the field, and don't want to be left out.

Ah, well I see where this is going. Well played. I have no regrets.

Glad you are safe Devin.

Spacedaisy wrote:Aces, you are 100% wrong about me. If you want to win, you need to lynch a last man standing, not me. I think I have made it pretty clear that I am NOT a LMS role. Iwillnot be voting for Devin and it is unlikely i will vote for Nev today. I am torn between Aces and FH, at least one of these two is likely the thuggish Splicer.

Thing is Spacedaisy, I have no reason/ evidence to suggest you aren't an LMSer. If I did, if there was even one bit of evidence to show you might be a civilian, I would be rethinking my position. But as of now, your play style points to an LMSer. Keep quiet, don't make any waves, and then go after anyone who calls you out. It's interesting that you think me and FH are bad, as we are the two people who have been suspecting you for the past couple days.


Where do you stand today Devin? Nev? FH?

@Nev
What am I missing? Can you show me something that would make me feel better about SD? And I just explained my reason for voting for Devin. It wasn't the best vote I've had to cast, but I was trying to make the best of a tough situation.

Judging by DP's recent behavior I wouldn't be surprised if he was the security bot, or even a different splicer. So, I'm not too broken up about his death.

With five people left, we're down to the wire here. I'm feeling good about FH and even Nev. I'm completely unsure about Devin. But, of all the people left, I still feel our best shot is with lynching SD.


@Devin- I was completely confused with what Mata was doing yesterday. Some of her post made me think she was Peaches, and she had information that she just couldn't explain. I had to weight the risk of trusting her vs potentially losing that powerful civie. That combined with the fact that at this point in the game I trust FH's judgement, led me to vote for you. Truth be told, I would have rather gone with SD but that wasn't possible at that point.

Good result.

Nevinera wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote: I will probably vote for SD. Not because of Mata, but because of my own observations.

Any chance you'd be willing to share those?

Flyin' High wrote:I
Aces, Nevinera, what are your thoughts on this?

I don't see whatever pattern Mata has been talking about.

On the other hand, Daisy's response to this whole thing has me a bit confused.
I was pretty sure I knew who Devin was, but I don't think her reaction to his proposed lynch makes tactical sense.

I'm not going to swing my opinion around on such flimsy conjecture and guesswork though,
so I'm voting Matahari.

linki Mata: If you're right, then hopefully your reasoning will be evident after the fact,
because if there are two ADAMers alive this late, our chances seem pretty slim.

Already have. She's been too quiet for my liking, and I feel she is trying to hide instead of contributing.
This was a tough one, because I'd rather lynch SD. But I'm going to end up Voting for Devin and hoping that Mata is right.

Flyin' High wrote:I'm at a loss here with this vote. The way Devin and spacedaisy quickly voted Mata when she started going against Devin and sort of SD seems like a classic baddie "no u". But there aren't many BTSC options left in this game.

What's bothering me about Mata's push against Devin is that she isn't clarifying who she thinks he's voted along with. At this point in the game, I don't see what the harm is in being more specific, especially if the case is based on thread evidence and voting records.

Aces, Nevinera, what are your thoughts on this?

I think Mata's lack of specificity means she is making stuff up and hoping for the best. But as the great philosopher Plato once said, "Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day." SD and Devin were super quick to strike back at Mata, together. Maybe they really are the last members of team Adam, and they feel cornered? I don't know. The lack of evidence disturbs me.

I will probably vote for SD. Not because of Mata, but because of my own observations.

AceofSpaces wrote:

Matahari wrote:Aces, you suspected daisy earlier because of her posts/nonposts, generally flying under the radar? What do you make of her saying that we should lynch her first? Do you see a civvie role who would do that?

Nev, basically same question for you- what has daisy done that would make you trust her? Why would she try to protect devin from a lynch?

I have no idea what Daisy is doing. I still find her suspicious for all the reasons I've already stated. I'm still trying to figure out what your talking about with Devin.

You're*

(Before Epi comes back from the dead to correct me)

Matahari wrote:Aces, you suspected daisy earlier because of her posts/nonposts, generally flying under the radar? What do you make of her saying that we should lynch her first? Do you see a civvie role who would do that?

Nev, basically same question for you- what has daisy done that would make you trust her? Why would she try to protect devin from a lynch?

I have no idea what Daisy is doing. I still find her suspicious for all the reasons I've already stated. I'm still trying to figure out what your talking about with Devin.

Matahari wrote:Like I said earlier aces, the posts and votes of every lynch, there is way too many to quote. Look at the polls, there is a pattern of 5 people who vote together daily. Spacedaisy is also in that group. They do a three/two split from one lynch to the next. Then combine it with the posts made, and you will probably see what I mean.

I would watch out for daisy and devin. They are both a danger to the civs, however many of us are left.

I'll look through his votes and post then.

Matahari wrote:I've read through so many of your conversations, and they are so tricky. Devin, you're playing a very slippery game, and I salute your skills. But I really think youre bad to the core

All the way back to the start of the game, there are examples of interplay between you and a known baddie, and voting with certain players. No one has to believe me, but don't say I haven't warned you guys. I've been bringing her up for awhile now, so I hope someone listens.

Quotes would be appreciated.

Flyin' High wrote:Just looked at the poll and I realize keep forgetting that DP is still alive!

I just looked through DP's recent post and he seems to be playing to "I'm lost" card as SD.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:RIPIYWG Kate!

So I guess now we know there's at least one Security Bot still alive.

FH, I may not be able to get much discussion in today because of work, but I would be interested in looking at Aces and NEvinera as potential LMS roles because of your analysis before. I, of course, would like to hear from both of them about this before making a decision there.

I've already defended myself multiple times on this. I've said my peace. I'm a civilian, and I've played this game civie. Again, I invite you to look back at my game. If I was an LMSer I would not be this vocal, I would not put my neck this far out. The example I went to before was boo's lynch. I did not have to stick my neck out for him when I did, but I did.

In my opinion, the LMSer's would be keeping their head down here. Just trying to get through the day without ruffling any feathers, so to speak. To me, that means Spacedaisy. She continues to provide little in the way of discussion, and has been very careful not to take a solid stance on anything. To me, this seems like she is trying not to make too many waves so she can coast through the day period and hope she rolls a kill at night. It is day 13, someone should not be able to do something like that.

Well that sucks. R.I.P. Kate, if you were good.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey, just wanted to let you all know that the post might be up late for two reasons: One, I've unexpectedly got a busy day today. The second is that my laptop literally just died. Like half an hour ago. And none of my mafia (and other) items were backed up anywhere else... So... Yeah. I don't know what I'm going to do about that yet. But I'll keep all of you updated.

I feel your pain brother. Don't feel like you have to rush anything, we aren't going anywhere

I'm going to follow the evidence and vote for Epi.

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Dear Christ in heaven, I was gone for one night period! DH, you're online. Can you kindly sum up leading suspicions today? I have 7 pages to catch up on, and the number of quotes you all posted is atrocious. I just need Sparknotes so I can catch up faster.

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I genuinely feel bad for you man! What follows is the spark notes of the spark notes version of what's been going on.

The main topics of discussion are:

boo for possibly defending bird (and his last post was a doozy).

Bullzeye for possibly defending bird (and I think someone pointed out an insincere sounding post).

BoatsBoatsBoats for his slip up and unhelpful behavior.

bea for sounding insincere.

And DharmaHelper for...I forget why we suspect him, but I know most people do.

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I also found this for Epi. I don't know if it means anything, but he kind of treats the suspicion of DH with a lighter touch than the others. Just something that caught my eye.

Flyin' High wrote:

Nevinera wrote:I had better vote - I'm out of town, and my access to Internet is occasional until tomorrow night.
I'm going with Aces, reluctantly.

His reaction to my dump still bothers me, and I found the early voters yesterday to be suspiciously opportunistic.
(FH and aces mostly, Kate went early, but there wasn't any opportunism there, since she went first, and I kind of believe her that she misinterpreted me on the topic).

I'm not at all confident about him, but I've got nothing better.

I don't see myself as being opportunistic on following my own case. I waited to hear from Mongoose before deciding to vote and unfortunately her response didn't change my mind. Which sucks, but no one else was stepping up to the plate by building a case on someone...

When reading back I noted that Hedgeowl went pretty hard against Aces earlier in the game. So I ruled him out of being on Team Adam. As for whether he is an LMSer I'm less sure. But he's someone I've been inclined to trust most of this game.

What are people's thoughts on Devin, DP, Epignosis, Mata, SD? Those are players I have practically no read on at the moment.

Kate replaced GOB who a few had suspected earlier on but since replacing in she's come across as fairly civvie to me. I noticed when reading Hedgeowl's posts that she was quick to give GOB the benefit of the doubt when he first came under suspicion, so I thought GOB/Kate could be Team Adam. But as I continued reading Hedgeowl began suspecting GOB so I changed my mind on that.

Right now, I'm thinking a LMSer would most likely try to blend in and avoid attention. They have to outlast 10 other people at this point, so it would make sense that they want to keep their head down. For me, that points to SD. I haven't really seen her contribute anything meaningful, and I've felt she has been hanging back and just going with the flow ever since the poop hit the fan.

If you look back at this game, you'll see there is no way I am not a civie. Look at my voting record for a second. I voted out one of Fontaine's crew, and Hedgeowl voted for me when I could very well have been lynched. So it would make no sense for me to be Team Adam. As far as the LSM goes, look back at boo's lynch. I tried very hard, and put my neck on the line, to stop people from voting for him. I didn't have to do that. If I was on Ryan's team when he was still alive, it would have made more sense to let boo die without putting my own neck on the line.

Please take those things into consideration before voting for me.

Nevinera wrote:That was odd. Aren't we still a day early?
Big case against Mongoose (compelling, admittedly) and then boom, boom, boom, three early votes against her.

I really doubt she's on Team Adam, but I think the odds are decent that she's a Ryaner..
But this smacks to me of people wanting a quick lynch to whittle down the competition;
constructing a bandwagon and then riding it.

I'm still deciding behind mongoose and Ace, but I think we should take a hard look at Kate, Ace, and FH for this sudden flocking vote.
I particularly see this is a big 'someone else' vote by Aces, trying to keep the wagon rolling.

FH actually took the time to look up post and make a case, presenting evidence. I thought it was compelling. I voted to support it. Not sure how that is a bad thing to do. In fact, it is pretty damn consistent with what I've been saying forever now. I feel like I'm repeating myself at this point. Your sudden turn around on Mongoose is what freaks me out.

I think FH did a great job with that case. In hopes of getting an early day, I will be voting for Mongoose

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Nevinera wrote:

Dom wrote: Why are you suspecting Mongoose now?

I'm not, particularly.

It came up, and I remembered that I was one of those who had seemed pretty confident and voted for her rez.
If I had to vote in a vacuum tomorrow, I'd lean toward Aces over Mongoose because of the strange reaction to my info dump.

(I follow your line of thought Aces, but if it were me I'd scowl and then reach eagerly for the vote button.
I certainly wouldn't think "well, she's probably a baddie, but it might be *unfair* to vote for her").

I just didn't want anyone passing on Mongoose because I thought she was good :-\

Strange reaction? Because I didn't believe you right away? I've already made it clear I vote based on evidence and facts. If someone takes an infodump in the thread I am not going to take kindly to it, and I sure as hell am not going to take your word for it right away. I only took your information seriously when it became painfully obvious who you were and what you were doing.

I'm a civie. I have played this game civie all the way through. If you look back you will see that.

***Runs through the thread saying...*** Are you referring to Nev being Cohen?

I was thinking someone else. Maybe I'm just bananas , but I don't see how he could be Cohen. I'm not going to say more though, because that wouldn't be good.

Where is Epi? He's really fallen out of the game since this craziness started.

Nevinera wrote:

Dom wrote: Why are you suspecting Mongoose now?

I'm not, particularly.

It came up, and I remembered that I was one of those who had seemed pretty confident and voted for her rez.
If I had to vote in a vacuum tomorrow, I'd lean toward Aces over Mongoose because of the strange reaction to my info dump.

(I follow your line of thought Aces, but if it were me I'd scowl and then reach eagerly for the vote button.
I certainly wouldn't think "well, she's probably a baddie, but it might be *unfair* to vote for her").

I just didn't want anyone passing on Mongoose because I thought she was good :-\

Strange reaction? Because I didn't believe you right away? I've already made it clear I vote based on evidence and facts. If someone takes an infodump in the thread I am not going to take kindly to it, and I sure as hell am not going to take your word for it right away. I only took your information seriously when it became painfully obvious who you were and what you were doing.

I'm a civie. I have played this game civie all the way through. If you look back you will see that.

My hesitation to vote for Hedge had to do with the ethics of an infodump. I've been outed in multiple games, and I know how bad it sucks. That is where my sympathy ends for Hedge. I'm glad he was a little sister.

Dom wrote:So... is there a point in waiting to vote????? I am confuse

Just don't wait too long. Or you'll be joining Spaghetti in his one man band.

This is the best poll ever.

See? Told y'all not to worry. Math is a bitch.

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, I must apologize. I was torn between voting for Hedge or voting for Nev. I wanted to think on it and vote right before I left. Dumb idea because I ended up running behind while getting ready for work and so I rushed out without voting. A thousand apologies.

Those apologies can't save you now. MP thirst for blood.

Good result. Kind of wish it was a Big Daddy, but still a good result.

Voted for Hedge. Don't like the information dump that lead to it, but can't change that now. At least this will confirm for me who Nev is.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:I don't understand either. I am just trying to confirm what the other person said. It looks like I was right. But now I would like to know why they thought he was Cohen.

Can you provide a quote?

Kate wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Kate wrote:Nev is reading as genuine to me and we think we know he is, I think we should keep him around as long as we can.

Aces, an alliance is not a horrible idea. We all have targets on our back at this point and those who refuse to vote with the "civs" may show who is not one. After what happened last night we are all likely to get attacked to it anyway. Might as well give it our best shot while we have a chance to.

I'm inclined to trust nev.

"Refuse to vote with the 'civs'"? Really? I don't know you from a hole in the ground, Kate. Not only am I supposed to trust your vote, but now if I *don't* vote your way I'm automatically not a civ? WOAH.

The problem with a "civ" alliance is that there is no way to prove you are a civie, and on top of that there is no way to prove your vote is any more on key than any other vote. You know who this "civ" alliance would benefit most, Kate? Team Adam. Those big daddies are really only vulnerable to lynches, so if they were to form a voting block like this "civ alliance" where they could all vouch for each other and then claim anyone who doesn't vote with them is a baddie, then they could coast to the end of the game.

So, that is why your idea is super flawed and super suspicious.

Probably going to vote for you later.

You don't know me from a hole in the wall? Seriously?

Suggesting that we come to a conclusion together when there is a group that easily can vote together is a bad idea? Ok, sure thing, aces.

I meant your role Kate, obviously I know you.

Your idea is just to easy to exploit. We can all come to a conclusion together without saying " A B and C are civies, if you don't vote with them you're bad" If we do that, we basically hand the game over to Team Adam. You see where I am coming from on this right?

Now if you want to make a solid case against someone, show me some evidence, and then ask that I back you up with my vote, I will do that. But I am not just going to take your word for things and turn the lynches into a them vs us thing.

Kate wrote:Nev is reading as genuine to me and we think we know he is, I think we should keep him around as long as we can.

Aces, an alliance is not a horrible idea. We all have targets on our back at this point and those who refuse to vote with the "civs" may show who is not one. After what happened last night we are all likely to get attacked to it anyway. Might as well give it our best shot while we have a chance to.

I'm inclined to trust nev.

"Refuse to vote with the 'civs'"? Really? I don't know you from a hole in the ground, Kate. Not only am I supposed to trust your vote, but now if I *don't* vote your way I'm automatically not a civ? WOAH.

The problem with a "civ" alliance is that there is no way to prove you are a civie, and on top of that there is no way to prove your vote is any more on key than any other vote. You know who this "civ" alliance would benefit most, Kate? Team Adam. Those big daddies are really only vulnerable to lynches, so if they were to form a voting block like this "civ alliance" where they could all vouch for each other and then claim anyone who doesn't vote with them is a baddie, then they could coast to the end of the game.

So, that is why your idea is super flawed and super suspicious.

Probably going to vote for you later.

Spacedaisy wrote:I see you said you wanted to hear from me, Dom. I apologize for my falling quiet after Bea's lynch. I have been busy between work and life in general. Yesterday I was out of town for almost all day for my nephew's first birthday party. I don't really know who I suspect at this moment because Bea was my last strong feeling either way. Then the last man standing crap started and now I feel a bit like I could swing a cat by it's tail and probably hit someone who would potentially have a kill at this point. I saw what you said about Nev, but I could also read it the way he explained what he was saying so I'm not sure it means anything. Either way I would bet if he isn't lynched someone will kill him tonight after a comment like that which could possibly be read as a slip up. Given his info he seems to have I am more inclined to believe hm at the moment and maybe toss a vote on hedgeowl. I have a bit of time to decide before I have to go to work though,so I want to think on it.

Linki: Aces, what role are you thinking Nev might be?

I don't know who he is, but I don't like it when people try to barter for lynches. It comes across as desperate and I don't trust it. Like I said, the last person to do that ended up being Fontaine. Also, if Nev really has information that could help the civie's he should have shared it sooner.

After rereading some things I now know who is *hinting* at though. Not sure I believe it, but at least I see it now.

@Nev, nice scare tactic's bro.

As an aside, I've noticed a lot of people freaking out over the night situation. Don't. We had one bad night, that is it. The highest base rate one of those last man standing roles has is 40%. And the two big daddies can't kill again for at least two nights. If we keep our heads, we can still pull this off. Positive thinking trumps math every time.


Back to business, does no one else find it odd how Kate wanted us to form a "civie alliance"? Why don't we just paint big red targets on our foreheads too, and hang signs around our necks that read "Come get some"? Seriously, that is a pretty sketchy thing to suggest.

Nevinera is acting like he needs to get lynched too. We've been through the whole "don't lynch me, I can help" show before, from Fontaine. There is absolutely no reason to keep him alive. Especially considering he is only offering this helpful advice once his own life is in danger.

Sweet result.

Kate wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:The way I'm reading bea's posts currently is that she's not claiming to be a civvie now, just that she's a threat to Team Adam.

Reading team Adam roles, it would seem the only role that would be a threat to them is Fontaine. Is that a role we want alive?

Personally I'd rather not keep the roided out super indy last man standing killer alive any longer than physically possible. Fontaine can't win with anyone except Fountaine, right? So what is the point of keeping him alive? Seems silly and slightly game breaking to try to make an alliance with him. Nights are going to be a slaughterhouse already. We don't need Fontaine adding to the meat grinder. Personally, I find it suspicious that people would even consider this.

I'd vote for Bea, if I hadn't already voted for myself.

Voted for myself as well.

Well. Shit just got real.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Anyone want to discuss the merits of a Zany Dex vote today (as opposed to waiting later to vote him)?

I'm not ready to hop on the Bea-Train, so he seems a good option.

I like to Take the A Train myself!

Nothing has changed my opinion on a dex vote, so I am sticking with him today. Barring major revelations of course.

I am your father.

Hi everyone. I'm officially back now, been casually reading to catch up. Not much to say right now, so I will keep this short. I'll post more after I have organized my thoughts.

Hi from Florida everyone! Voting now while I have time. Posting this from my phone so I have to be brief. Nothing has changed with Bea. Voted for her. Bye for now.

AceofSpaces wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:First of all RIP and juliets.

Dom wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Dom, frankly I don't care if you liked what I said or not. I admit I back pedalled a little because I shouldn't have posted in annoyance. But that doesn't make me bad. A bad person maybe and maybe bad judgement in posting it. But not in game bad.
Why not vote for Aceofspaces who was even more forthright than I? I don't see you questioning his post!

Because he didn't say that he didn't care about allignment.... . . ... ...? You seemed a bit more extreme to me. And I don't think Aces is bad at the moment... nice subtle attempt to bring attention onto me, though.

Snow Dog wrote:In case anybody else thinks I was completely out of order in my comment regarding aglaminranks, may I take this opportunity to remind everyone of what AceofSpaces said.

No one look at me! Look at Aces!

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

omgomgogngh I will defend you with my life as well k innocent or guilty

Simply pointing out Aces pretty much has the same opinion as me. Look at me everyone. I'm just saying that. This Dom guy seems a bit desperate to be honest. I actually think Aces is civ too and won't vote for him for sharing my opinion.

And how was I bringing attention on you subtly actually? Bit paranoid. You credit me with far too much savvy.

Just wanted to bring this up, because it had been bothering me for awhile. Snow Dog says he thinks I am a Civ, and that *he* wouldn't vote for me. But in those other other quotes about he very strongly deflects suspicion put on him onto me. He also directly suggest people vote for me. That bothers me.

He's also voted for Lizzy for the past two days. To me that seems like a throwaway vote, so he doesn't have to be responsible for whoever gets lynched. He's peaked my interest. I just wanted to know what anyone else thought of this, or of Snow Dog in general.

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@Russ, here you go.I have provided Snows post, Doms post, and my reaction to them. Since then Snow has explained his intentions were not to deflect but to question why Dom was specifically targeting him, when there were other people (me) doing the same thing. Admittidly, it is still kind of deflectish, but I see why Snow would say it.

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Epignosis wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:@Epi, whenever you have this many players, you're going to have that problem. Hopefully we transition out of the early game things will pick up. I also feel that challenge like this one can be a double edge sword. We've had some terrific discussion come from this, but I can see how it may be hard for the more casual player to keep up. My advise would be for people to do what I did. Catch up a page at a time, post your thoughts when you have them, and ask others to clarify anything you have a question about.

Speaking of...Ajira, I see you've posted. That's cool. I look forward to seeing you more active in the days ahead.

Added: @Russ. I really can't say too much more about my thoughts on boo. Sorry. I'd just advise reading the roles again and hopefully you'll see something. As far as me and boo staging anything, that isn't true. Boo's vote for me day two could have killed me. As I've said before, I think boo has been playing this game with blinders on after day one. I believe he genuinely thinks I am bad, but he is wrong.

Added: LET ME POST!!

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I would be curious as to why boo would think you are bad. I had already read back through and frankly the accusation seemed catty and bereft of any substance.

Aces, what do you think of the Dom / Snow Dog episode? This talk of you and boo working together makes me wonder if the two of them were staging that thing.

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When I first saw Snow Dog bring me up like that, I thought he was deflecting. I also thought it was weird how it said he thought I was a civie, but appeared to be deflecting onto me. But he has since explained it, and I accept his explanation. Right now I am not overly suspicious of Snow Dog.

As far as Dom goes, I have no read on him. He hasn't really said much else after no one latched onto his Snow Dog talk, so I don't know what to make of that.

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@Epi, whenever you have this many players, you're going to have that problem. Hopefully we transition out of the early game things will pick up. I also feel that challenge like this one can be a double edge sword. We've had some terrific discussion come from this, but I can see how it may be hard for the more casual player to keep up. My advise would be for people to do what I did. Catch up a page at a time, post your thoughts when you have them, and ask others to clarify anything you have a question about.

Speaking of...Ajira, I see you've posted. That's cool. I look forward to seeing you more active in the days ahead.

Added: @Russ. I really can't say too much more about my thoughts on boo. Sorry. I'd just advise reading the roles again and hopefully you'll see something. As far as me and boo staging anything, that isn't true. Boo's vote for me day two could have killed me. As I've said before, I think boo has been playing this game with blinders on after day one. I believe he genuinely thinks I am bad, but he is wrong.

Added: LET ME POST!!

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Epignosis wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:Well, I've said my peace. It's up to y'all to listen to me or not. I am going to vote for Bea as she is the better choice. Regardless of what happens, I'm sure this lynch will prove informational for everyone.

@ Russ, I don't think I've seen your thoughts on recent developments. What say you?
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I appreciate your observations. That said, I hope you turn out to be wrong about boo, I really do. I'd also like to know what DisgruntledPorcupine was going on about regarding Boats.

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Honestly, at this point I hope I am wrong about boo too. It looks like he'll get lynched no matter what today, so I really do hope he is bad. Unfortunately, I have reason to believe otherwise. I guess we'll find out. On a better note, today's discussion has revealed a lot of possible directions for us to go in the following days. I'm confident that we are on the right track overall.

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Well, I've said my peace. It's up to y'all to listen to me or not. I am going to vote for Bea as she is the better choice. Regardless of what happens, I'm sure this lynch will prove informational for everyone.

@ Russ, I don't think I've seen your thoughts on recent developments. What say you?
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Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Nevinera wrote:

Epignosis wrote: I don't know what degree of discussion is permissible and I'd like to err on the side of caution. Perhaps you should reread the role descriptions. As for me, I'm just not sure I buy it is all- if boo is saying what I think he's saying, then, well, he a damn fool.

And I'd still like to hear from Boats before I commit to voting for him.

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I have. I've reread them a dozen times today. I see the people he must be claiming to be one of, but I do not see any role or combination of events that would explain his belief that anyone specific would get lynched the following day.

I also see no *evidence* to support his claims, and I rather care about that - if I were going to pretend to be someone specific to get out of being lynched, I would certainly pick one of those few roles to pretend to be. It's unverifiable, and it would present the least threat to the most people.

I'm voting for Boo.

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I understand and respect your decision. My hesitation comes not from boo's own posts, but from AceofSpaces sudden turnaround and his warning. I'm still mulling this over.

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Yes it is definitely giving me pause for thought. It worries me enough that I am considering a Boats, Bea or Bullz vote. Not sure too much on Bullz yet because besides his voting, his posts ring true. Boats and Bea on the other hand.....
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I'm leaning most heavily towards Bea. The evidence against her is solid. Boats, I don't really know. Has he even posted today? Something tells me if he misses another vote, we won't have to worry about him anymore. Bullz, I could go either way with. I'm not convinced he isn't bad, but I'm also not willing to vote for him over someone like Bea, who I have a much stronger feeling about.

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@Epi, in regards to what I now think of boo and his post.

Fully caught up now. Looking at boo, I'm almost positive we should not lynch him. I think he's recent behavior is just him giving up and not caring what happens next. It is a mistake on his part, but I can't play his game for him. All I can do is strongly suggest we don't lynch him. Some people have suggested he is Sander Cohen. If that is the case, he already has five votes. So it will be painfully obvious if Cohen start night killing who he is, and we can lynch him then. I do not think boo is Cohen.

I'd much rather lynch someone like Bea today.

@Bullz, but you do understand *why* you are on my suspect list? I can't just look at all the people who could have saved BWT and say "Well...Bullz agree's with this theory too, so he must not be bad." I've read your defense, and I will consider it when deciding where to place my vote today.

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