The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:15 pm Great game all around! And thanks from hosting Leetic.

I did give epi a gun thinking he’d shoot Jay if we needed it, we totally did try to set up Jay as a vote also lol and it failed.

Also this is now 2/2 where Falcon and I rolled mafia and won. I think we’re a power duo

Fabulous partner, thanks for the shield!

Remember the Alamo!

It's not really a thing here in Canada, but there's wine at my table & it s's fun to shout

In reality, the Alamo as a place is truly not memorable. There are way more interesting missions nearby.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:17 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:46 pm Sig, why dis you bother participating today like that? You could have affimed Lorab and locked that in way easier.
So I wasn’t planning to, but I got worried town would switch off of lorab and jump to falcon then be able to pair us. So I felt like I had to take control of thread vs just being present.

Lorab showing up did put a wrinkle in my plan though lol.

Sorry not sorry

I’m just noting for posterity that I really was civ!!

And right about falcon and sig. I should trust my instincts better.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:28 pm In case I die, which suddenly seems not-entirely-impossible: Epi mafia means the most likely teammate is falcon. I know we all just said that, but here's a concrete legacy post.

Yup. It seems unlikely at this point that it’s anything but the 2 of them.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:25 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:24 pm Btw, I’m doing my best, but not sure I’ll make it to the end of lynch awake. My sinuses currently feel like they are going to explode. And my eyes are drooping. But I’m trying!!
I don't see how we are moving off Epi ever. You can go to bed safe.

But of course, the need to know the result...

It’s that mafia fomo that gets me!

Btw, I’m doing my best, but not sure I’ll make it to the end of lynch awake. My sinuses currently feel like they are going to explode. And my eyes are drooping. But I’m trying!!

Well, vote moved back to Epi.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:52 pm Eh, my issues are with her answers (no offense lorab )

For example on the LC question she basically says nothing? I get the Meta side, but D4 with lots of content I need more.

Pair that with her accusing me of not reading the thread and really only focusing on the two people who are active and not pro lorab and I don’t know. I don’t see the towny angle there
In this instance she did say Epi is more suspicious than you, so it's not quite that I don't think.

More development in her LC read would be helpful. @LoRab

It’s honestly vibe and tone.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:43 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:21 pm First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con.

They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me.
Meh I probably still like falcon/Epi more. falcon's gripes today are wack.
I’d be shocked if long con wasn’t mafia
That's a more confident read than I would make about anyone lol. Why?

Probably since I’m paranoid.

But legit,

I think he pairs the best as mafia with either lorab or Epi.

I don’t like his exchange with lorab, it seems coordinated, now he’s willing to switch off to someone else, thus turning the vote away from Lorab. They both popped in at the same time and almost did a mini CFD

In the current breakdown if he moves to falcon, you follow, we’re tied which is a mafia win.

This theory does all go out the window if lorab is town, which is the issue right now.

What is CFD?

Also, we are in the same time zone, so same times makes sense ?

And maybe he’s moving off me because he’s played more games with me than anyone else in this game and knows when I’m being honest.

I’m not certain of his alignment, but he feels more civ thannot, to me. And I know I’m not bad. Whcich, btw, is the main reason I have been self defending so hard. The one thing I know for certain in this game is that I am civ.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:40 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:05 pm Both mafia are currently voting LoRab.

Two among Epi, falcon, and Long Con.
In order of most to least suspish, to me, in this moment:

Falcon
Epi
Sig
LC

Why is LC least?

Because, for the moment, I don’t think I’m seeing bad LC.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:09 pm If I am a giant doofus and LoRab does flip mafia, that would also be fitting. Stay your pitchforks and try to exist in my head for a moment.
My biggest issue is she’s more trying to not get voted off vs trying to hunt mafia in my mind.

Having said that the other mafia member has to be on her, unless it’s you or TSP, TSP requires some HEAVY tin foiling, and right now I don’t think it’s you.

It’s not like anyone else is sure of who is mafia. And I just gave my order of suspects. What more can I do?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:05 pm Both mafia are currently voting LoRab.

Two among Epi, falcon, and Long Con.

In order of most to least suspish, to me, in this moment:

Falcon
Epi
Sig
LC

Fine.

Your consistent sharing of ideas as they come to your head, and being willing to be wrong, are both civ qualities.

Your frequency of shorter posts throughout day cycles makes it unlikely that you are also posting in ptsd.

I wouldn’t really be logical that you’d NK Wilgy, only to make the point that the baddies are likely not fully following the game. I mean, maybe? But then you’d let someone else make the actual case for the idea. I mean, occam on top of occam means, you’re likely civ.

Falcon’s defensiveness has sounded baddies and baddier.

So [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Thank you.

Seriously, though. Is there anything I could have responded to that which would convince anyone that by lynching me they are handing the game to the baddies?

Because, y’all are.

And I’m exhausted (and still not fully healthy), and I’m not going to bother. There’s no way civvies will win if we don’t lynch a baddie this round, as far as I can see. In lynching me, yall are lynching a civvie.

So, I’ve kind of lost motivation to respond other than how I feel l Ike responding.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:07 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost.
Could you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
Because your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.

I'd like to hear some specifics, cuz this is a boiler plate read

You’re not going to listen to me, so why bother.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost.
Could you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?

Because your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:48 pm If LoRab is mafia, I am struggling to find a good teammate right now. I don't think Epi makes sense unless he abandoned his old aversion to bussing. He can win the game today if he wants to, so pursuing his teammate would be goofy.

Long Con is theoretically plausible, but he is also the origin of the LoRab wagon today more than anyone else. So eh.

falcon is theoretically plausible, but only if we accept significant distancing earlier in the game (especially with LoRab's indignant reception of his accusations).

That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:38 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:34 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:07 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine

I talked myself into it with the above post.

I wouldn’t be shocked if we see LC switch over shortly then it’s just a matter of convincing one maybe two other civs, if they aren’t able to they’ll switch back to Epi.
Can you better explain your second sentence? I don’t know what you mean of “convincing civs,” other than it seems to be an admission of you’re not civ.
You and LC are mafia,

You only need one maybe two civs to join you on the falcon wagon and boom win.

Ah. That makes sense. Shoddy logic, but I understand what you are wrong about.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:26 pm If we add TSP back into the mix and say they’re teammates that would explain why we’re all having such a hard time finding two mafia members. But; there’s the risk there that we assume this and blindly go into the lorab vote.

Having said that it isn’t a stretch to think that Lorab, who isn’t as tied into the game wouldn’t be totally aware of TSP Claim/}remember her early comment

Didn’t you not know if there was an Indy in the game a few hours ago? And wasn’t I the one to answer you about it?

And you keep saying I’m not tied to the game. That isn’t true. I’ve read every post. Can you say the same?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:07 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine

I talked myself into it with the above post.

I wouldn’t be shocked if we see LC switch over shortly then it’s just a matter of convincing one maybe two other civs, if they aren’t able to they’ll switch back to Epi.

Can you better explain your second sentence? I don’t know what you mean of “convincing civs,” other than it seems to be an admission of you’re not civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:21 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:08 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:05 pmclaiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping.
good point
It’s a different point in the game. I don’t trust him in the game, but we do not have the luxury of not focusing on mafia. Or focusing on not mafia.

Also, individuals over theory…theoretically I never trust neutrals or indies, regardless of alignment. This has been true consistently since I don’t remember when Hero’s Mafia was on LP, but that game.

That said, not trusting a player/roll and their being the lynch priority are not the same thing.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:27 pm @LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?
At this exact moment? Falcon and epi.

But I’m not locked into either of those thoughts.

LC and Sig are my next tier.

And I don’t think you are bad, other than in my most tinfoil-y moments.

And tsp’s Indy claim, I’m willing to assume is legit.
This is a bit difficult to reconcile.

It all makes sense to me.

Basically, tsp is not my lynch priority. We don’t have luxury to lynch anyone who isn’t mafia. He’s not the priority. And so he’s on the back burner. Not trusting him doesn’t mean wanting to lynch him right now. We need to get a baddie. I don’t think he is a baddie, within the game set up.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:05 pm Just did a read of Lorab and I’m once again back to the world where she’s mafia.

Overall her gameplay this game has been blendy, even when she vote typically includes what other people said for why they voted.

Today, which is the biggest issue for me, she left everyone up for a vote except Jay and TSP, claiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping.

But, then again if she’s mafia I’d say that means her teammate is also active right now.

I doubt it’s falcon, I’m civ reading Jay, that would only leave LC which would work.

You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.

Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views.

Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some weird thing and my lynch doesn’t end the game with the bad guys winning,I’ll share that you have become way more suspicious this round. You’re close in line for rising from orange to red. Evidence includes your clearly not really paying attention to details of the game.

And your apparent glee at the wagon against me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:08 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:05 pmclaiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping.
good point

It’s a different point in the game. I don’t trust him in the game, but we do not have the luxury of not focusing on mafia. Or focusing on not mafia.

Also, individuals over theory…theoretically I never trust neutrals or indies, regardless of alignment. This has been true consistently since I don’t remember when Hero’s Mafia was on LP, but that game.

That said, not trusting a player/roll and their being the lynch priority are not the same thing.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:02 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:09 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:08 pm What else do you want me to say?

And I can twirl, if it gives me more of a chance to live. And, I’d really like to lynch an actual baddie.
Can you point precisely to the behaviors of Epi and falcon that lead you to believe they're the most likely baddies?
Honestly, it’s mostly POE and players I more strongly believe is not bad.

With Epi, it’s mostly tone. He just doesn’t sound civ…even really busy and distracted , based on how I read his posts generally. Also, his at least tacit suspicion of both AS and Simon.

With Falcon, it’s still back to your case about the baddies made a bad kill.which, yes, was a reason for you to suspect me, and, also made sense conceptually. And, more than that—and the piece of what I said that seems to keep being missed, that his response to your posts about it did not feel like civ defense. And, thus, made me more suspicious of him. (Keep in mind, I read all pieces of that at once, and not in real time. So, I had already read his defense when I posted about him.

And also posts like this:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Read too Hello Fellow Civvies for me to not find them

Wait, are you saying it's wolfy of me to try and get you involved this RD?

IIRC, this is not the first time this game I've called you out on not being active, and I note that this time you didn't actually respond when I called you out, but rather when you became the lead wagon

Not getting me involved, rather the choice of words.

And I literally have strep throat and slept most of Irl yesterday. I became active today because I was feeling better and so got back to game.

Which, if you actually read my posts, you’d know.

I’m happy to switch from Epi to falcon. Honestly, my suspicion of him I higher than that of Epi. But I’ll wait to switch until others do, because I’m still considering self preservation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:09 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:08 pm What else do you want me to say?

And I can twirl, if it gives me more of a chance to live. And, I’d really like to lynch an actual baddie.
Can you point precisely to the behaviors of Epi and falcon that lead you to believe they're the most likely baddies?

Honestly, it’s mostly POE and players I more strongly believe is not bad.

With Epi, it’s mostly tone. He just doesn’t sound civ…even really busy and distracted , based on how I read his posts generally. Also, his at least tacit suspicion of both AS and Simon.

With Falcon, it’s still back to your case about the baddies made a bad kill.which, yes, was a reason for you to suspect me, and, also made sense conceptually. And, more than that—and the piece of what I said that seems to keep being missed, that his response to your posts about it did not feel like civ defense. And, thus, made me more suspicious of him. (Keep in mind, I read all pieces of that at once, and not in real time. So, I had already read his defense when I posted about him.

And also posts like this:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve

Read too Hello Fellow Civvies for me to not find them

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:34 am Four Epi-fam players and not one of them Wolf? Possible, but I don't believe in it.
Would a mafia LC do this if Epi was his teammate?

He most definitely would. But I’m very hesitant with LC and don’t really think he did.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:07 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:04 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:57 pm Okay I’m doing an iso read,

I likely won’t be pulling quote since doing this from mobile.

Staring with living players, maybe I’ll do another NKA after of Wilgy and scotty.

Falcon:

He’s been pretty consistent since D2 regarding his Jay read and it evolved into a more solid mafia read which he then channeled on.

He consistently read lorab as mafia which is a plus in being genuine and D1 he did cast a wide net.

The big negatives here? Post D1 falcon stopped providing as many reads focusing in on Jay, while he did continue to vote off Jay and engaged with Simon/Moto we saw less of it.

So while Falcons evolution does appear genuine he didn’t really engage all players which could be bad
Can you literally not conceive of te thought that you are completely wrong about me?
I could see it, you were more in the neutral camp until this phase I’d say, but even if I’m wrong about you I think falcons read on you makes him look good. Does that make sense?

Not really. But I think I get the idea. Maybe?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:02 pm Then stop with the metronome trust level.
What's your take on LoRab's most recent material?
I saw nothing but "I'm not a wolf, I'm town." Nothing compelling enough to change my vote over.

What else do you want me to say?

And I can twirl, if it gives me more of a chance to live. And, I’d really like to lynch an actual baddie.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:57 pm Okay I’m doing an iso read,

I likely won’t be pulling quote since doing this from mobile.

Staring with living players, maybe I’ll do another NKA after of Wilgy and scotty.

Falcon:

He’s been pretty consistent since D2 regarding his Jay read and it evolved into a more solid mafia read which he then channeled on.

He consistently read lorab as mafia which is a plus in being genuine and D1 he did cast a wide net.

The big negatives here? Post D1 falcon stopped providing as many reads focusing in on Jay, while he did continue to vote off Jay and engaged with Simon/Moto we saw less of it.

So while Falcons evolution does appear genuine he didn’t really engage all players which could be bad

Can you literally not conceive of te thought that you are completely wrong about me?

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

Put my vote on epi for now, because he’s in my red section, because he’s the only other player with votes, and because I’m still holding out to being able to live another day.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:25 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:21 pm @JaggedJimmyJay walk me through the epi evolution again?

You went from town, to convinced he was mafia, to town and fine with lorab, to thinking he’s mafia again?
It’s just uncertainty. I don’t know. There’s a pretty easy argument available to call every candidate in the [LoRab, Epi, falcon, LC] group mafia and to call them town. It is incredibly difficult for me to differentiate any of them and have any sustained confidence in it.

Even now I don’t think LoRab “looks” like mafia. She still easily could be. Once again I find myself more or less guessing.
Yea, I can tell

My Epi read is a mix of gut and prior stuff. His jokey tone strikes me as more townie and I do think his reads on the kids were genuine.

On the flip side he’s very accomplished as mafia, but I put alot of trust in him soooooo I’m sticking with town there I think.

Falcon/lorab, up to her most recent posts fell into the same category, maybe I’m tunneling a bit now, but I think her last few posts scream baddie more than Falcons post today.

Falcon also seems to be more active than his normal mafia meta, which is typically blendy, or at least it was when we were mafia together in scooby doo last summer. Most of this is meta and gut though since he hasn’t done much townie

LC is a hard read for me, but I think out of the remaining players he’s got the most teammate equity.

You are definitely tunneling. And you are entirely wrong about me. And it’s clear that you don’t know how to read me, or what I post like when I’m bad.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:36 pm Also one thing to note, which I wasn’t going to bring up this soon, but the convo is dead so I will, if we flip mafia today we need to ALSO hit mafia tomorrow phase or we loose.

So a bussing strategy isn’t out of the question, that adds an extra layer of toughness.

If you lynch me, you won’t have to worry about that.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:19 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:27 pm @LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?
At this exact moment? Falcon and epi.

But I’m not locked into either of those thoughts.

LC and Sig are my next tier.

And I don’t think you are bad, other than in my most tinfoil-y moments.

And tsp’s Indy claim, I’m willing to assume is legit.

See here’s my issue with Lorab post again she quite literally leaves everyone but the person who doesn’t count towards parity, if we believe that claim, as an option for today.

It just doesn’t seem like a solid civ thing to do at this point we should be trying to narrow down the pool not expand it

Seriously? It was a rainbow list in black and white. You are orange.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:27 pm @LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?

At this exact moment? Falcon and epi.

But I’m not locked into either of those thoughts.

LC and Sig are my next tier.

And I don’t think you are bad, other than in my most tinfoil-y moments.

And tsp’s Indy claim, I’m willing to assume is legit.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:51 pm I’m also not a huge fan of the LC/lorab exchange

Why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:50 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.

So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:

If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?

And

When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?

I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.

Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely

But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx

I hate this post, it’s just one massive word salad saying you could go in any direction.

Meaning it gives us basically nothing if you do flip mafia and allows you and your partner to pivot onto anyone that gets attention

And, sorry you don’t like the way I post or play. But I’m hoping you can answer my questions.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:50 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.

So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:

If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?

And

When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?

I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.

Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely

But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx

I hate this post, it’s just one massive word salad saying you could go in any direction.

Meaning it gives us basically nothing if you do flip mafia and allows you and your partner to pivot onto anyone that gets attention

Right, but I know I won’t flip mafia. So why do I care about an impossible situation?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:07 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:53 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:10 pm My top team is Lorab/falcon right now. I want this towncore to work. Your post where you were just like "ok it's JJJ and LC" was what rubbed me the wrong way.
Why do believe it is a town core? Other than it has been self stated.
It's the players I believe are Town. Who else but myself can state them?
I get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
That is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.
Someone has been steering the ship towards bad lynches, in my belief. So, it is logical.
You have voted twice, both times to eliminate a Civ.

And you’ve voted 3 times to eliminate a civ….

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:53 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:10 pm My top team is Lorab/falcon right now. I want this towncore to work. Your post where you were just like "ok it's JJJ and LC" was what rubbed me the wrong way.
Why do believe it is a town core? Other than it has been self stated.
It's the players I believe are Town. Who else but myself can state them?
I get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
That is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.

Someone has been steering the ship towards bad lynches, in my belief. So, it is logical.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:27 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.

So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:

If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?

And

When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?

I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.

Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely

But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
Doesn't matter. We eliminate Town, the game ends.

Then answer the first question. Or, if you didnt want to eliminate town, and knew I was town, whom would you vote for?

Also, happy Easter to all for whom it is sacred time!

And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.

So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:

If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?

And

When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?

I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.

Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely

But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:53 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:10 pm My top team is Lorab/falcon right now. I want this towncore to work. Your post where you were just like "ok it's JJJ and LC" was what rubbed me the wrong way.
Why do believe it is a town core? Other than it has been self stated.
It's the players I believe are Town. Who else but myself can state them?

I get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:49 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:12 pm @Long Con present view of LoRab?
Your arguments of unpairing were good, I thought. She could still be bad. Lemme glance at her now.

I can't count her out. I didn't see anything in her ISO that's out of her Wolf range. Falcon/Lorab team with a little bit of distancing by Lorab? I am sure she knows that trick. Epi might be the patsy... he votes Lorab for Epi reasons and then falcon jumps on to distance, then Lorab turns it around with a light distance vote later on.

I could see it.
I mean, I could. And I probably have. And I appreciate the compliment. But that isn’t the case this game. I’m just a civ. Trying to figure this game out.
It would be more of a compliment if you were a Wolf who had done something I thought was out of your range. Conversely, if you, as Town had done something that really made me believe it.

There are many things about you that I would be happy to compliment, but your play this game is not deserving of one, unfortunately. If it were, then I would not be voting you.

I meant in general, your appreciation for things I would do. And, in this case, have not.

That said, I haven’t played my best this game. Clearly, no civ has.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:39 am I think Lorab is indeed mafia. The more I think on the Simon (lack of) exchange, the more I think that's a slam dunk.

You’re wrong.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:17 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:00 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:57 pm What’s your thought on Lorab’s vote
I don't care for it. I was surprised that she agreed with my rationale when it squarely implicated her, and she submitted to the vote with no resistance. I'm not sure how to interpret that right now from the standpoint of a falcon/LoRab team theory, but it makes me suspect LoRab more on her own.
It was partly your logic, and mostly his reaction to it.

Yes, it implicates me, because I’m a low poster in this game, but I know I’m not bad, and so it’s likely one of the other quieter posters. I’d say it’s likely a newer player, because newer players don’t always know how to kill strategically in games in general.
Confusing moment to navigate with respect to the present conversation:

When I went on my bit about the DrWilgy kill blunder and what it meant, my first guess for the team was LoRab and falcon. Then she supported the theory. What do I do with that?

The root of the theory made sense. That doesn’t mean that you were right about the who, obviously.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:34 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 am If the team is LoRab and falcon, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as a civilian.
That would be so nice.

It isn’t.

And this makes me suspect you again. Because “that would be nice” makes me think you aren’t civ.

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