The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote:If Niju flips bad, let's lynch Snow Dog.

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Oh and only the emoticon posts were garbage, whew.

Seriously dude?

Yes.

Then you acknowledge that it was an attack on playstyle?

It wasn't an attack.

Then neither is "full of shit".

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Oh and only the emoticon posts were garbage, whew.

Seriously dude?

Yes.

Then you acknowledge that it was an attack on playstyle?

nijuukyugou wrote:Whew, busy, busy weekend! Yay for drinks, food, and seeing lots of RL people. Time to crawl back into the hole of interacting with Internets people Apologies for the lack of posts and whatnot. I have kept up on my phone when I can, and have now caught up with reading fully.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Unfortunately, I'm drunk, and I haveto wake up in 6 hours tp leave for a snowshow/camping trip and won't e back on until after the deadline, so I'm toing to goite NIJUUUUUUUUUUUU to continue the legcay of the Epignosisisisisisisisisisisisis/

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ninjanasin Blooper! get lyched pr die!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I just realie d that my ultimatum fr nijuukyougoyu leaves her only one reall pption.

Get lynched cheesecake!

Mmmm, cheesecake. But I decline the lynch.

a2thezebra wrote:Seriously though, is everyone going to ignore how fake Snow Dog's read development of me has been this game? First I was bad because I wasn't posting even though I was, then it was because I was posting but my posts were garbage, then I was good because I was posting but my posts were garbage, now it's baffling that my posts continue to be garbage. Also because I made an assumption.

inb4 town ignores this post and lets Snow Dog coast along to endgame

Except...I've had a similar read of you throughout the game, except my mind hasn't changed. As he restated, you posted only in emojis, which is about as good as not posting, then the posts were nonsense ("garbage" is strong for me, and I don't want to be antagonistic), and now you vote for him for a nonsense reason (for saying "quiet day"). What good does that do? How is this civ behavior? It's one thing to post to look civ, but another to do blatantly un-civ behavior. My other conviction is that you're hella suspicious for the time you decided to start playing and posting stuff in the thread, as I stated in my last reasoning to vote you. You have done this before - people want to write off your manic behavior (which is perhaps why Snow Dog gave you the BOTD when you did start posting relevantly), saying you can't possibly be bad with this craziness, and then you WIFOM the shit outta them and flip bad. Nah. I am unconvinced that you are civ or helping civs.

sig wrote:Yeah zebra I can agree with the scotty ping for that.

What does everyone think of nacho and sonjie? Both are relatively new to TS where killing off high posters is more common. Also nacho going awall and not posting as much after day 1 is odd so thoughts on nacho

I do wonder (and did wonder the other day, as Epi pointed out) about Nacho's participation, but I'm one to friggin' talk. From the look of his later posts, it looks like an issue of time crunch. I lean civ on him, mostly from a vibe standpoint, but would like to see more (once again, I'm one to talk). As for Soneji, from what I remember in reads, I rather like what he's had to say, and have agreed a few times in my other posts (or at least once that I can recall).

I need to get to the store and get bags from my car (because I totally forgot I left all of my luggage in there from this afternoon, because I am a lazy piece of shit today), so I shall leave for now. Voting zebra.

Linki - LOL wow, much suspicion of two people I just said looked good to me? Apparently I need a closer read?

a2thezebra wrote:Oh and only the emoticon posts were garbage, whew.

Seriously dude?

Vompatti wrote:For me it's a toss between randomizing and only pretending to randomize.

Long Con wrote:Nah, I'm cool with MM.

a2thezebra wrote:At least I was attacking your alignment rather than your playstyle. This is what I mean when I talk about this obscene double standard.

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:In fact zebra's post and vote has got me scratching my head here. What kind of assumption is that for fuck's sake?

I mean according to your wisdom all of my posts are garbage so I'm not sure why you're so baffled by it, especially considering I've already voted for you for vague reasons twice now. Maybe...hold on a second...maybe...you're full of shit?

Is there really any need to be so rude? What is your problem?

You've got some nerve asking those two questions after your last exchange with Quin.

Vompatti wrote:Quiet day...

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:All my best friends died. Why do I want to play this game anymore? Oh come back Ian, we miss you. WELL DON'T DIE THEN!!!!!

This post seems genuine. I'm not so sure you would have been fine killing your friends so early. Which ones were your friends exactly? Epi, MP, Golden?

This is why I asked a question early on as to who would not feel comfortable killing someone as part of a larger meta. And you certainly fit the bill.

You still could have killed DF and Quin

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:In fact zebra's post and vote has got me scratching my head here. What kind of assumption is that for fuck's sake?

I mean according to your wisdom all of my posts are garbage so I'm not sure why you're so baffled by it, especially considering I've already voted for you for vague reasons twice now. Maybe...hold on a second...maybe...you're full of shit?

a2thezebra wrote:No civ makes a post that just says "Quiet day..."

Snow Dog wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:I'm still under the impression that there are pirates in the mix of my shortlist. But I also realize that the cannibals are probably actively hunting for pirates, so I probably need to start looking there so we have less chance to mislynch those on my list. Soneji is the top of my list, as he was with Boom yesterday.

I want to look at LC, MM and of course zebra.

MM, what would you say if i told you I feel like you were buddying Epi the past 2 days?

I have been budding him because he's ths civvest of civs and I turst himt.

Yes he certainly appeared so. But he could have been playing a very clever pirate game. Consider this, he and Black Rock are pirates. She doesn't have time to play so says she will get a replacement. Epi says, no don't do that, i will expose you and throw you underthe bus instead and I will be praised as master baddie hunter and I will be top civ!

Just saying it is possible thta's all.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:I'm still under the impression that there are pirates in the mix of my shortlist. But I also realize that the cannibals are probably actively hunting for pirates, so I probably need to start looking there so we have less chance to mislynch those on my list. Soneji is the top of my list, as he was with Boom yesterday.

I want to look at LC, MM and of course zebra.

MM, what would you say if i told you I feel like you were buddying Epi the past 2 days?

I have been budding him because he's ths civvest of civs and I turst himt.

Scotty wrote:Figures Epi died. RIP! Surprised at Quins death, seeing as he was getting lots of pressure from people yesterday. I think he was good, for the record.

DrWilgy wrote:Q.Q

People I wanted to talk to today are dead now...

What would you have talked about that you couldn't do so yesterday?

Wilgy, have you checked your Role PM yet?

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Aw crap.

Sorry Boomslang! You were the best of us.

Hey!

Long Con wrote:Sorry to see you go, MP - you were the best of us!

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Quin wrote:Reading into Snow Dog's posts.

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Snow Dog wrote:Is it possible to earn gold?

A question about game mechanics. I don't lean either way on this; I have a 'would a baddie be more likely to ask this on the game thread or in BTSC' thing going around in my head, but knowing the answer to this specific question wouldn't put baddies at any significant advantage makes this a null read.

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Snow Dog wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I wish we had changeable votes.

Hey Snow Dog, what's up buddy? Are you bad?

Bad to the bone!

No, are you?

What do you think about MM's claim to have been sent the wrong role?

Why do you think that MM's claim about being sent the wrong role has anything to do with his alignment?

I'm just pursuing something that struck me as odd. It probably has nothing to do with his alignment.

I like this. Not every question has to be generated into some sort of read, but Snow Dog seems to be covering his bases to not leave any stone unturned.

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Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:Why is no one talking about me? This is odd for me for a day 1.

I like dog's entrance. (Note that my phone routinely likes to change his name to "dog" or "sog"). I don't like zebra's entrance. And motel room is playing very minimally and I don't mind the case against him, but zebra will be getting my vote if she doesn't check in today.

I was thinking of voting zebra too. Reason 1, he has only posted a bunch of emoticons which in itself is annoying. Reason 2, he is the first name on the list.

I don't like this. Earlier he said he'd 'reluctantly vote for a non-poster'. I think that there's a specific mentality for people who want to vote that way on Day 1 (as well as all other days tbfh), and that it's got a lot to do with the notion of 'they're not here so they're not contributing, and it would be rude to lynch a present player before them, so they're the next best thing to a mislynch'. This goes against that, because zebra was clearly here and contributing in her own way. Reason 2 is just whatever.

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Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I didn't like Snow Dog's vote yesterday. I like it even worse today.

Just my two cents after the lynch. I'll be looking at him.

I'm not a fan of his voting record either, but his content has seemed genuine to me. I'll take a look at his ISO though and maybe I'll come up with a different perspective.

I don't understand. What is wrong with my voting record? I have been consistent. Explain please!

'I don't understand why you find a specific thing suspicious but I'll try and defend myself against it anyway'. This doesn't make me feel good.



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I come out of this with a scum lean on Snow Dog.

If you call zebra's posts "contributing" then i can hardly reason with you can I?

My point is that voting for a non-poster infers a specific mindset that contradicts your choice of vote. zebra was not a non-poster.

Quin wrote:Reading into Snow Dog's posts.

Spoiler: show

Snow Dog wrote:Is it possible to earn gold?

A question about game mechanics. I don't lean either way on this; I have a 'would a baddie be more likely to ask this on the game thread or in BTSC' thing going around in my head, but knowing the answer to this specific question wouldn't put baddies at any significant advantage makes this a null read.

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Snow Dog wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I wish we had changeable votes.

Hey Snow Dog, what's up buddy? Are you bad?

Bad to the bone!

No, are you?

What do you think about MM's claim to have been sent the wrong role?

Why do you think that MM's claim about being sent the wrong role has anything to do with his alignment?

I'm just pursuing something that struck me as odd. It probably has nothing to do with his alignment.

I like this. Not every question has to be generated into some sort of read, but Snow Dog seems to be covering his bases to not leave any stone unturned.

Spoiler: show

Snow Dog wrote:

Scotty wrote:Why is no one talking about me? This is odd for me for a day 1.

I like dog's entrance. (Note that my phone routinely likes to change his name to "dog" or "sog"). I don't like zebra's entrance. And motel room is playing very minimally and I don't mind the case against him, but zebra will be getting my vote if she doesn't check in today.

I was thinking of voting zebra too. Reason 1, he has only posted a bunch of emoticons which in itself is annoying. Reason 2, he is the first name on the list.

I don't like this. Earlier he said he'd 'reluctantly vote for a non-poster'. I think that there's a specific mentality for people who want to vote that way on Day 1 (as well as all other days tbfh), and that it's got a lot to do with the notion of 'they're not here so they're not contributing, and it would be rude to lynch a present player before them, so they're the next best thing to a mislynch'. This goes against that, because zebra was clearly here and contributing in her own way. Reason 2 is just whatever.

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Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I didn't like Snow Dog's vote yesterday. I like it even worse today.

Just my two cents after the lynch. I'll be looking at him.

I'm not a fan of his voting record either, but his content has seemed genuine to me. I'll take a look at his ISO though and maybe I'll come up with a different perspective.

I don't understand. What is wrong with my voting record? I have been consistent. Explain please!

'I don't understand why you find a specific thing suspicious but I'll try and defend myself against it anyway'. This doesn't make me feel good.



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I come out of this with a scum lean on Snow Dog.

MacDougall wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

What's this rolling at mate? Snow Dog's fake reactions or the result? Or both? Life in general?

MacDougall wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Quin wrote:Oh. The thread doesn't get locked. I'll do my Snow Dog ISO today then.

Cool!!

Faaaaaake you are bad too.

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:@Metalmarsh Have you heard of the Finnish band HIM?

No I haven't. Any specific recommendations?

Nope. I saw two of their albums in a charity shop today and I wondered if you knew anything of them.

I have heard this band, and regard them as one of the worst bands ever, but don't let that discourage you.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:@Metalmarsh Have you heard of the Finnish band HIM?

No I haven't. Any specific recommendations?

Quin wrote:Oh. The thread doesn't get locked. I'll do my Snow Dog ISO today then.

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Voted Quin.

Wanna talk about it?

Sure

Nice chat.

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Voted Quin.

Wanna talk about it?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?

Why do you want to lynch her?

Long Con wrote:I think it's a weak vote from Vompatti.

Here's my take:

Long Con wrote:If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.

I haven't decided which side I believe yet. If it is a slip, then it's such a delicious catch and I would hate to disregard it. On the other hand, I could easily see myself making that careless assumption, so it's hard to bring the hammer down.

That's a good point. Both of these stories are believable.

But that leaves me in the same spot I'm in with regards to Snow Dog. I see reason to believe he's civ, as well as mafia.

What would it take to convince you I am not mafia?

You do you mate. I'm just here to judge you on all of your content.

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?

Why do you want to lynch her?

No reason.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?

Why do you want to lynch her?

Long Con wrote:I think it's a weak vote from Vompatti.

Here's my take:

Long Con wrote:If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.

I haven't decided which side I believe yet. If it is a slip, then it's such a delicious catch and I would hate to disregard it. On the other hand, I could easily see myself making that careless assumption, so it's hard to bring the hammer down.

That's a good point. Both of these stories are believable.

But that leaves me in the same spot I'm in with regards to Snow Dog. I see reason to believe he's civ, as well as mafia.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Never mind, I see that it had existed.

Moving on.

Long Con wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Earlier while compiling ISOs, MP accidentally deleted the one he'd done for Wilgy. Well if he was bad one must ask if this an accident. Or was it a way to avoid that analasys? Would MP do this though? Does it border on unfair play?

There is absolutely no way that it was intentional.

Absolutely? Why?

Because there is absolutely no way that MP07 of any alignment would intentionally abuse his power and cheat, especially in such a flagrant fashion. No more discussion on the topic is needed, case closed.

I don't feel like I was buddying Epi.

Yeah I already closed the case if you only bothered to check!

I had the post started for a while and finished it after your closure, and I didn't get linkitis'ed about it. Dial back that exclamation point, mister.