The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:I agree with SNow Dog that FH is very unlikely to be on Epi's team.

If Elohcin flips baddie, I think Snow Dog is alos bad, and I'm not sure about Russ.
If Elohcin flips civvie, I think Snow Dog is innocent and Russ is definitely bad.

I don't understand this or my connection to Elohcin.

Roxy wrote:Sorry Snow Dog - forget what I said about it having no bearing - you play the game your own way and find suspicions in your own style. When I re-read my post it sounds like I am telling you how to play - for that I apologize.

No thats Ok. Really.

I only brought up that earlier thing because I thought it may have been due to that you suspected me. Sorry for going back to it.

On nthe other hand, whatever you think of my role, I am pretty certain that both you and reywaS are not bdddie.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:It seems I can't shake of some peoples suspicions.

What do you think, Snow Dog? Who's your highest suspect, currently, now?

I'm looking at all the later voters for Epignosis. DP voted fairly early so I think he must be civ after all. Sorry DP. SE is worth looking at imo.

You know, you mention SE, that's interesting. I had him pegged as civvie early on. I'm not sure about him. He has had a few posts I was kinda like, "Huh?" if I remember correctly.

Linki: Sounds good, let us know if you find anything. And do not sweat going after someone and being wrong, it happens to all of us, even those of us who have played many games. I could be wrong about Elohcin and S~V~S for all I know and I felt so sure especially about Elohcin (and still kind of do, but now I don't know). That's what discussion is for.

Flyin High voted second for Rob first time round. I am sure we can discount her from being on his team at least.

SE voted for He Man.

I may compare other votes too later.

Mine was reywaS and DP

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:It seems I can't shake of some peoples suspicions.

What do you think, Snow Dog? Who's your highest suspect, currently, now?

I'm looking at all the later voters for Epignosis. DP voted fairly early so I think he must be civ after all. Sorry DP. SE is worth looking at imo.

Sorry for posting again. I should have compared this second lynch with the first before making these judgements. I will do so.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:It seems I can't shake of some peoples suspicions.

What do you think, Snow Dog? Who's your highest suspect, currently, now?

I'm looking at all the later voters for Epignosis. DP voted fairly early so I think he must be civ after all. Sorry DP. SE is worth looking at imo.

FH voted for Epignosis very early. I'm sure he would have been telling them to wait until they saw if the Llama votes piled up. She could be the rogue for all I know but not on Epi's team.

It seems I can't shake of some peoples suspicions.

So the baddies are amongst the Epignosis votes.

Disgruntled Porcupine - 2 - Snow Dog (14), thellama73 (16) 10%

Epignosis - 13 - blindfaeth (3), MovingPictures07 (7), Flyin' High (8), reywaS (9), DisgruntledPorcupine (10), Russtifinko (11), LittleTiger (12), Ambray (13), >SpaghettiEverywhere (15), Roxy (17), He-Man (18), birdwithteeth11 (20), Elohcin (21) 62%

thellama73 - 3 - S~V~S (2), Boogs (6), Epignosis (19) 14%

thellama73 wrote:

Elohcin wrote: I vote Epig to show that I am not on his team and that I am not a baddie. Plain and simple. Why would I vote for a teammate? I would not vote for him to say, "I am Epig's teammate and I'm going to try to prove to you that I'm not", b/c I am a horrible liar.

And, yes, you'll be eating socks I'm telling you, I am a horrible liar. And, I am not baddie. I am definitely civvie and a friend of yours

I just don't believe you. Ever since the lynch switch it was clear that Epi was going down. His teammate(s) would have had little choice but to vote for him or draw suspicion onto themselves, so your vote tells me nothing about your allegiance. YOu've been behaving very much like someone in Rob's camp.

Exactly what i said in my defence. If I had been on his team i would have had to vote FOR him. Especially considering by the time we voted there was absolutely no question he would have most votes.

He-Man wrote:Don't be to hard on yourself snow dog, we are all wrong in mafia sometimes. It's good your views are not always the same as others otherwise we would never double check ourselves.

You say your suspicion of me 'must be dropped' does that mean you see me as bad still?

No I don't. All evidence points against it. I was wrong about you. I admit it.

He-Man wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

He-Man wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I'd like to comment on some points raised.

I didn't push ship....ever! I was simply trying to help.
If I was a baddie I would have voted Epi, why risk any other choice?

Firstly BIh zombies well played epig!

Secondly, WIFOM TO THE MAX.

Not really

I disagree, however, I'm not sold on you being bad. Have you said how you feel about llama snowy?

Also, I'm not sold on elohcin being baddie I would be more happy to look more closely at llama.

I feel Llama is civ. But when have I been right? I was even sold on Epi's tale. Well not sold, but it cast doubt.
And now he has been revealed my suspicions of you must be dropped. Another one I got wrong. I am also not sold on elohcin being bad. I still have a suspicion of DP, hence my vote.

Roxy wrote:Not necessarily llama. Some baddies as you know and have witnessed play wild bold games - yah kind of have to - maybe he felt since he had voiced so much doubt about Epig he could'nt vote for him. Idk.

Then I guess I will ask how Snow Dog feels that llama followed his vote? And why did he suddenly start to suspect him after all the convo had not even centered around him?

You two will be my death trying to learn how to read lol

Well that's good, kind of.
If I am baddie I'm being kinda bold and reckless don't you think? Is that misunderstanding we had over the house vote colouring your view of me? OK, I didn't follow the mass vote against Epi and whatever i say (due to WIFOM) will not be believed it seems.

I am trying to think of any other ways for everyone to believe me. I guess you either trust me or don't.
But let's say I am civ and you are bad. That early argument would have suited you well. You a well known player is having an argument with this new upstart, surely someone will come to your defence? And lo, one person does. Just one out of the whole lot of us...reywaS. I don't know if he was just being gallant or he himself felt an opportinity to paint me bad.

That is from my viewpoint. Which is why I suspected him.....and you.

BUT..if we are all civ the baddies relish this sort of bickering don't they? So I am glad the bickering is over and we can now have a reasoned discussion.

He-Man wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I'd like to comment on some points raised.

I didn't push ship....ever! I was simply trying to help.
If I was a baddie I would have voted Epi, why risk any other choice?

Firstly BIh zombies well played epig!

Secondly, WIFOM TO THE MAX.

Not really

I'd like to comment on some points raised.

I didn't push ship....ever! I was simply trying to help.
If I was a baddie I would have voted Epi, why risk any other choice?

LittleTiger wrote:Excellent result!!! And AWESOME pic of Andrew

Dennis.

Well played Rob.

Roxy wrote:I am cool with that Snow Dog I have zero to hide

Neither have I.

Roxy wrote:Llama - my last post directed to Snow Dog and his vote should be read by you as well as now it applies to you. You are now back on my watch list.

Snow Dog - bear waching as in I will track your movements during game and see how your future suspicions progress.

Wow. Thank you. And I will be watching you in return. You are on MY suspicion list also.

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote: I meant I don't know what bear watching means. Still don't.

Bear Watching:

Well.....I haven't been doing that!

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also I may as well vote now as well *votes the Epig*

Linky with Snow Dog - you said 'Nonsense' to one of my posts I was just responding - now you know what it meant.

also your vote on DP is suspicious b/c you have laid out zero suspicions on him except he is not posting enough to suit you. With all the others who have been talked about and all the thread evidence given to them why you would choose to vote this way only serves to make you more suspicious imo.
You even considered not voting which is hilarious with all the different suspicions abounding in this thread. I think I was right to be suspicious of you Day 0 and Day 1. Just b/c you think he is safe he may not be remember MP's lynch???

I meant I don't know what bear watching means. Still don't.
If I was baddie I would follow the crowd and vote Epi. As an independant civ I voted with conscience.

With my conscience it should read.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Epig and llama - this is just Porcu's playstyle.

It may be his playstyle, but it doesn't mean he is good.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote: Talk about a really sudden vote. :O

Talk about another one.

*Votes DP*

Any reason you're targeting me in particular? Not any other lower posters?

It isn't just your low posting. You say nothing when you do post.

Roxy wrote:Also I may as well vote now as well *votes the Epig*

Linky with Snow Dog - you said 'Nonsense' to one of my posts I was just responding - now you know what it meant.

also your vote on DP is suspicious b/c you have laid out zero suspicions on him except he is not posting enough to suit you. With all the others who have been talked about and all the thread evidence given to them why you would choose to vote this way only serves to make you more suspicious imo.
You even considered not voting which is hilarious with all the different suspicions abounding in this thread. I think I was right to be suspicious of you Day 0 and Day 1. Just b/c you think he is safe he may not be remember MP's lynch???

I meant I don't know what bear watching means. Still don't.
If I was baddie I would follow the crowd and vote Epi. As an independant civ I voted with conscience.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yeah, I'm really not liking these recent happenings so...

votes Epi

Well that's really descriptive of you.

It's in keeping with everything else he's said so far this game. I don't know why people are so intent on giving him a free pass when he refuses to participate.

This.

Votes DP

Talk about a really sudden vote. :O

I know. I saw no point in wasting any more time. I couldn't decide and I thought you were more suspicious than most (besides He man) Sorry. But you are safe at least.

Roxy wrote:
Snow Dog - nonsense you say? It may be but I still think you bear watching.

I don't know what this means.
I think He Man is bad. Simple as that.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yeah, I'm really not liking these recent happenings so...

votes Epi

Well that's really descriptive of you.

It's in keeping with everything else he's said so far this game. I don't know why people are so intent on giving him a free pass when he refuses to participate.

This.

Votes DP

I'm totally stuck on not knowing who to vote for. Whoever it is will be "why did you vote for blank"?

I can simply not vote, right?

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Snow Dog - no that will not make me feel better tbh - it makes me just want to keep an eye on you, thats all.

Nonsense.

If Epi is proved bad I can hardly suspect He man of still being bad can I? Unless he is Herobine. which I'm sure he isn't.

Why are you sure He Man isn't Herobine?

Change that to...I don't think he is.

I grant that the odds are against it, but do you have any other reason for that thought?

Yes

Well Rob made a second theory. The possibilty that he was rezzed and recruited by the mafia.

That is still possible.

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Snow Dog - no that will not make me feel better tbh - it makes me just want to keep an eye on you, thats all.

Nonsense.

If Epi is proved bad I can hardly suspect He man of still being bad can I? Unless he is Herobine. which I'm sure he isn't.

Why are you sure He Man isn't Herobine?

Change that to...I don't think he is.

Roxy wrote:

Snow Dog - no that will not make me feel better tbh - it makes me just want to keep an eye on you, thats all.

Nonsense.

If Epi is proved bad I can hardly suspect He man of still being bad can I? Unless he is Herobine. which I'm sure he isn't.

Indiglo died that very night. Maybe she was the reaL armor. her only post since was a picture waving hello (or goodbye) no words itself. Could be she was told she was not allowed to speak. Of course she can oprove me wrong right now.

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:@Epi. I think that's rather a briliant idea. I guess anything is possible in these games. I was actually thinking if such a thing might be possible earlier. But what about the real Character that MP is supoposed to be...ax was it?

According to the Day 1 lynch, he was revealed to be the Full Iron Armor.

And if this is the case, then that means the real Full Iron Armor is around here and knows I'm right too.

Snow Dog wrote:I thought of a flaw Rob. herbivore or whatever killed on night 1 after MP was lynched....so how could he?

Herbivore.

If him being the Armor was a charade, perhaps being dead was too.

Or it may be that Herobrine resurrected and recruited MP.

What I'm saying is that MP isn't acting like I know him to act, especially on a Day TWO. I don't think he's on our side anymore, if he even was in the first place.

Has anyone NOT posted since Mp's lynch?

I'm folding towels at the moment, but I can check after that.

Well I'll check too.

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:@Epi. I think that's rather a briliant idea. I guess anything is possible in these games. I was actually thinking if such a thing might be possible earlier. But what about the real Character that MP is supoposed to be...ax was it?

According to the Day 1 lynch, he was revealed to be the Full Iron Armor.

And if this is the case, then that means the real Full Iron Armor is around here and knows I'm right too.

Snow Dog wrote:I thought of a flaw Rob. herbivore or whatever killed on night 1 after MP was lynched....so how could he?

Herbivore.

If him being the Armor was a charade, perhaps being dead was too.

Or it may be that Herobrine resurrected and recruited MP.

What I'm saying is that MP isn't acting like I know him to act, especially on a Day TWO. I don't think he's on our side anymore, if he even was in the first place.

Has anyone NOT posted since Mp's lynch?

I thought of a flaw Rob. herbivore or whatever killed on night 1 after MP was lynched....so how could he?

@Epi. I think that's rather a briliant idea. I guess anything is possible in these games. I was actually thinking if such a thing might be possible earlier. But what about the real Character that MP is supoposed to be...ax was it?

Roxy wrote:
Snow Dog - your suspicion of HeMan hinges on Epig being civ or mafia? And you will retract your entire suspicion if Epig is bad?
Nice backdoor you have there.

I won't retract my suspicion if that makes you feel any better.

He-Man wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I think He-Man is bad still. reywaS less so. Not convinced on Epi.

Why is that?

Mostly the way you went for Epi due to his original thoughts on who to vote. And.....just a feeling I suppose. Now if Epi turns out bad I will take it all back.

Russtifinko wrote:Yeah exactly. I can confirm what MP said, but don't know the answer to your follow-up question: "So a not civvie thing not a vote thing?"

Now that you quote me I even make less sense.

Oh you mean you don't know who or why they got your info, right?

Russtifinko wrote:As I said, doubt I could comment if I did know, but I don't. Sorry!

hang on..didn't you just say you did know? You said something like...I can confirm what MP is saying?

Russtifinko wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: 1. No one has demonstrated that ship was bad or house was good because we cannot talk about prizes. I firmly know that house was good and that you were supposed to die.

I can vouch for this, though I know I lack MP's level of cred. Doubt I can say more. I know someone asked.

In that case it must be because I didn't vote house that I know nothing of this. So not a civvie thing a vote thing. If you see the thing I'm trying to say.

I think He-Man is bad still. reywaS less so. Not convinced on Epi.

My head is a swirl...first I agree with Mp, next I agree with Epi, and so on back and for.

I can't vote Epi after all. Just doesn't sit right with me somehow.

Well hang on there MP. You KNOW the house was the good option because you are a civ? I happen to be a civ too and I don't even know house was the good or correct option. Do you have extra info?

linki wityh llama

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote: What would you have me say?

If I say, "Don't lynch me, I'm a civilian," people say, "Yeah right, typical baddie behavior!"
If I say, "I was framed!" people say, "You're just saying that because you're a baddie and want us to believe that!"
If I say, "S~V~S was targeted to make me look bad," people say "WIFOM and I'm not buying it, baddie!"
If I say, "Elohcin and I do not have BTSC," people say, "Yeah right, baddie! Look at how she follows you around like a duckling baddie!"
If I say, "He-Man was being inconsistent in Day 1," then you say, "He pulls a NO U." (whatever that is)

There is absolutely nothing I can say that will serve as a satisfactory defense. One cannot break wind without drawing suspicion.

This is essentially the reason I stopped responding to SVS.

What say you about the uncharacteristic chilliness between us in this game, Rob?

As I said earlier, remove a few bricks and Mp's thesis crumbles. (for those worried I know I didn't exactly say that using those words.)

Ok. The one person we are absolutely sure is Civ is MP. All his arguments make absolute sense. But if he is wrong anywhere it could all come tumbling down. Am willing to vote Epi though, despite my earlier feelings. Want to hear from him though.

I didn't expect a novel when I logged in.

Boogs wrote:I just wanted to point out to help us, The Aether Portal took He man off the poll. Who has been on his side that we can try to conclude is also a Civ?
Also trying to understand, so the Rogue killed Indiglo and then SVS was almost killed by the baddies? Is that what went down?

I would say so.

Plus..as this is your first game I must say you are a very observant and logical player.

Welcome back Alex!!!!

MovingPictures07 wrote:If I'm so awesome, I should deserve a rezz! Just saying.

Okay, I realize everyone gets the point, I'd really love to have a rezz because I was really enjoying this game. I'll seriously stop posting and go back to being dead now.

We can hope.