The Syndicate

Hedgeowl wrote:6 players left. 1 diesel, 5 civs. 3 players (Snow Dog, A Person, Hedgeowl) have been insanified at some point in the game. 3 players (Lizzy, McViper, reywaS) have never been insanified.

While a diesel could fake being insanified, we know they can't officially self target. If this reasoning works, then we are looking for our diesel amongst Lizzy, McViper, and reywaS. It'd be great to see posts today from everyone, especially if someone would like to post a rambling nonsensical diatribe to help clear their name.

Hosts - Are powers provided like biff and bash required to be used every day or can they be skipped?

Any person with powers can decide to use them or not.

Mongoose wrote:Good game, guys.

I think me saying i trusted you and was sure you are not diesel may have done this. Sorry stout ally!

Epignosis wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Snow Dog has been Mod-killed for his horrific judgment regarding some of the best music ever made:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum ... 00#3730700

What?????! I love that album!
That was a while ago. It's not a bad album actually
Snow Dog is back!

A remarkable recovery!

McViper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:OK, Mongoose I trust. He is not a diesel. Still worried about A Person though.
why would you be worried about A Person? Can she insanify herself? She is just talking crazy, unless it's all and act. Ohhh. I'm so confused

Yes you're right. Thanks for pointing that out. Unless of course he pretended to be insanified.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Snow Dog has been Mod-killed for his horrific judgment regarding some of the best music ever made:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum ... 00#3730700

What?????! I love that album!

That was a while ago. It's not a bad album actually

Mongoose wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:OK, Mongoose I trust. He is not a diesel. Still worried about A Person though.
I can't fully shake the A Person blame either, but...

I wonder if A Person was the one who switched the vote from himself/herself to Nev. It's one of the only theories that works for me on how someone figured out for sure (or made an extremely shrewd guess) that Nev was bad.

If he switched and is bad, he wouldn't switch to Nev. I don't know. It doesn't quite hold together does it...

OK, Mongoose I trust. He is not a diesel. Still worried about A Person though.

Mongoose wrote:
Lizzy wrote:Honestly, Rey! Like I said the other day: he's been flying below the radar quite a bit, Krissy turned out to be a diesel without being here most of the time, or at least visible in the poll voting/discussions; and not having to do with him being a suspect or not, but his lack of participation is not fair towards the rest of us who have been constantly pointing paranoiac fingers at each other since the game started. :P I mean, when I could not participate in the poll voting or discussions on the board because I was busy with my thesis, I made that clear.

But you still haven't answered my question, Snowy. :P
Yeah, I hate for lack of participation alone to be our lynching siren, but it's not helping Rey's case one bit. No one else's voting record is screaming suspicion at me.

Problem is rey is hosting another game, so he does have a good reason to be absent.

Lizzy wrote:RIP DH, but I too got some really strong baddie vibes from you, and if I hadn't noticed Rey's constant absence, I think I might have voted for you as well. :\

Anyway, I am also very curious as to why Snowy considers me a suspect. I did not want to bring this up yesterday because I noticed that if you are targeted for lynching and a trend is set, whatever arguments you try to bring in your favour, they do not seem to work. But with the NK since I am a target like all the rest, which is something I cannot control, I'll just hope to make it through the night even with giving my two cents if I have to.

Lizzy, who do you suspect most at the moment?

McViper wrote:Cures!!!! I missed the vote too! so sorry everyone.

Well Now I think the baddie is either snowdog or mongoose.

I don't think it is either of us so that makes me think it is you.

Hedgeowl wrote: Sorry DH, I would have voted for you too if I made the poll before two minutes late. Sigh, we are not really doing that great picking them hey civs?

After this NK there will only be 6 players left and 1 baddie with the power to insanify one person. Anyone insanified now is definitely not a diesel since there's only one left btw. They cant self target. I am not going to wait on coming up with ideas for the next vote in case I am NK'd.

The three people I currently think have a chance of being diesel are A Person, reywaS, and Snow Dog. I wouldn't have thought Snow Dog before, but reread Nevinera. Nev and Bullz (diesels) have quite the antagonism going there, throwing accusations around and Snow Dog is a part of it too. Nev even voted for bullz in a tie vote with Krissy where the diesels obviously knew that there was no chance they would be killed. They created an excellent distraction going back and forth, so if one did get lynched we wouldn't suspect the other.

Snow, I'd be interested to hear why you thought Nev was bad and then changed your mind? Anything in particular?

If anyone else has reasons to suspect someone I'd love to hear it.

Until then...

I don't even remember why.

Which brings me back to A Person again. Or Lizzy.

A Person wrote:I lost track of time because of dinner and missed the poll by a couple of minutes, although I admit I didn't have a clear idea who to vote for, I was afraid of killing an innocent person like DH.

Man up. Either play mafia or don't.

So sorry DH. Wish you'd stood up for yourself a bit more. I'm a bit down now.

Voted Dharma.

Hedgeowl wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:So my main suspects are Dharmahelper, and Lizzy.
This is my discussion?

Oh good. I'm thinking Dharma helper foremost. What do you think?

So my main suspects are Dharmahelper, and Lizzy.

Duck. I've always liked Duck and panier tank engines in general being as they were synonymous with my region (GWR)

Probably two people. Henry one night and Pery another. Well done both of you.

So I thought that Bullz, Nev and I were all Civ. I feel such a fool. I am wondering again who switched the lynch and how they were so sure Nev was bad. That is twice now this has happened with a good result. Whoever you are you are very perceptive.

A Person wrote:It seems like I must've missed some unwritten rule that insanification only lasts a day even when there are no rules stating its length. I probably should have tried asking and accidentally breaking a rule instead of trying to ask while insanified, too. It caused more confusion and suspicion that I would've thought. I guess I've got you all caught in my Cat Gambit, hahaha.
As for Nev being lynched instead of me, I'm very confused, but grateful that someone knew I wasn't (really) crazy.

You're next to be lynched.

Well played Nev. Really. I mean it.

The voice of the people.

A Person wrote:If you use the last stop.

The boss knew the importance of this game, really.

A Person wrote:I forget. :P

Of the last Insanification policy?

You lose the game

The feeling of vengeance Tova SE Reyw

reywaS wrote:Well, you can go ahead and lynch me....I probably deserve it based on my lack of participation alone....but in doing so you will NOT be lynching a diesel. You will just be getting rid of a civvie late in the game.

I may give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm not 100% convinced you are bad just yet.

Voted jack.

reywaS wrote:oh for crying out loud! I say I'm not going to miss another vote and then I promptly miss the next vote.

@Snow Dog: I'm not a baddie. I'm your number one suspect based on what exactly? That I've missed votes?

I agree that DH is probably bad though.

Based on a lack of further suspects rey. It is a shame you have no voting record to refer to, but my gut feeling, and it is a suspicion only, is that you are a diesel.

Snow Dog wrote:For those interested here is A Person talking coherently during the day phase. It's right at the top of this page.

A Person wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
A Person wrote:Thank you for those who care.

While I may not have understand one thing you've written this game, I do care. What are your thoughts on the latest elim?
I know, but now we have a little faith in the theory.

Or maybe it doesn't make sense? Am I going mad?

It seems cogent only I think. Sorry AP. My bad.

For those interested here is A Person talking coherently during the day phase. It's right at the top of this page.

A Person wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
A Person wrote:Thank you for those who care.

While I may not have understand one thing you've written this game, I do care. What are your thoughts on the latest elim?
I know, but now we have a little faith in the theory.

Or maybe A Person first as he dropped the pretense of being insanified.

Nevinera wrote:I'm voting for Jack, because he's the only name in the list that has any experience with the Dharma Initiative.

I wish there were more to read for her history.
Voting wise, she only voted for a decommissioning once, for DP.

Andrew, Mongoose, Snow, DP, and Hedge voted for her on the successful decommissioning -
That's especially solid evidence for DP and Hedge's being civ, since they were the swing votes.

Mongoose and Lizzy (and simon of course) voted for her in the other vote that almost caught her -
that's twice Mongoose has tried to catch her, and Lizzy was a swing vote that time (though only in a 2v2).

The suspect pool is diminishing rapidly :-D

Yep. I'm thinking reywaS, A Person and Dharma most likely...in that order.

Wish I'd listened to Simon the first time. But yay.....revenge!

I am going to follow the advice of Simon at last and vote Krissy.

Nevinera wrote:
A Person wrote:In Philadelphia, the school paid the men eChillin (b) honor Deadwood and size.
That seems conclusive :-)

Yep. That didn't happen in Phily.

A Person wrote:In order to do this.

In order to do what? Can you expand on this thought?

Nevinera wrote:Rest in peace, Simon. You must've hit a nerve in there somewhere :-\

Krissy?

Hard luck Simon. We will endeavour to avenge you.

Jumbo

My guess is that Henry switched the vote. I wonder what made him so sure Bullz was diesel.

Well played Bullz. After thinking you definitely bad you started convincing me you were good. Still don't know how you got lynched.

Voting RywaS. He is far too quiet this game. (Ok he is hosting his own game. But even so )

Not going to vote Mc VIper. I think he just doesn't know who to vote.

DharmaHelper wrote:Voting Snow Dog because I'm still convinced there is a baddie between either him or neverina.

A shame you wasted your vote on me. Unless you are a diesel.

I've been suspected by quite a few people here on and off. How come I haven't been decommissioned yet I'll never know...

Hedgeowl wrote:We hope the offense and score peuresyeoibnid.

What?

Nevinera wrote:
Snow Dog wrote: I'm starting to think the most vocal people here, you me and Nev are all civ. If so I apologise for my vote for you. If true though I fear we may be targeted for a NK.
I don't know that I'd go *that* far. Bullz has seems off to me pretty frequently this game, and his analysis of your posts from yesterday still seems.. not conclusive, but solid. It certainly makes me confident that *one* of you is good at least,
since he went to a lot of effort to build that case, but I tend to think one of you might not be.

That said, I'm rather afraid to vote for either of you, because I have no idea why I'm still alive - I expected an NK days ago. My guess is that I'm around because scrapping me would incriminate someone, and you two are the only ones I've really been pointed at. So I'm going to keep pointing at both of you! No offense :-P

That's fair enough. For what it's worth I'm thinking you are civ and Bullz I am less sure but leaning civ.

Nevinera wrote:I'm leaning toward viper or Krissy, by the way. Whoever is last, be *sure* not to tie up the vote.
We're running out of time, we *really* need to get a diesel soon.

Agreed. I can get onboard with a Viper or Krissy vote.

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
McViper wrote:Well, I've voted for DP in the past. The avatar scares me....so since DP has the most votes so far. I'll join in
These are two of the worst reasons I ever read.
I would have to agree. Jumping on to a bandwagon is one thing, but jumping on to one that hasn't really been explained with no actual reason for your own vote? I don't necessarily think DP is a civvie but nor do I think Viper is, especially after that.

I'm starting to think the most vocal people here, you me and Nev are all civ. If so I apologise for my vote for you. If true though I fear we may be targeted for a NK.

McViper wrote:Well, I've voted for DP in the past. The avatar scares me....so since DP has the most votes so far. I'll join in

These are two of the worst reasons I ever read.

Nevinera wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Krissy wrote: Hmmmm. Well I am listening too. Lol
Like you Krissy. You vote silently for DP. Why? You don't say much but you vote. Any good reason for me not to vote for you?
This appears to be her first decommissioning vote, from a search of the polls thread.
She has been popping in and voting for the less contentious things, but I've never seen her signed-in..

I don't feel like a baddie would be so.. ineffective. With teammates explaining stuff and all.
But she's not really giving us much help either, so I'd be ok with trying her.

i should have checked her voting record and thanks for doing so. On the other hand I don't want to vote for a quiet civvie. But on the other hand again I know that even newbie baddies can miss votes and post little.

We need S~V~S's wisdom here.

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