The Syndicate

Bullzeye wrote:Couldn't you have carried on trying to earn coins though? If you'd done a few of the Sub-Cons and mini-games you'd probably have got enough quickly.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:When Boo was around no one made sure that most people got at least one vote. Due to this oversight Boo stole all my coins, about 80 I think. I was then out of the game forever. Thanks guys. I saw it coming and obviously you didn't.

It was around 60 IIRC, but if it makes you feel any better that's about the only time our plans actually worked and even then it almost didn't. Russti was Boo that day, and Hedge said in the thread she was voting for him but apparently didn't in the poll so we still got to rob someone. We chose you because you'd won that vote contest thing so probably had the most out of anyone but us. Most of our plans got screwed up by those meddling civs.

My bad. I left the thread forgetting to click the vote button, but thought ai had voted russti. Epi was kind enough to remind me I missed the vote and took 10 of my coins. we did really try to spread the vote around for that reason, but I was worried that Snow had quite a lot of coins at that point.

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

You are correct, well done.

Your reward will be PMed to you at the end of the Day period.

Epignosis wrote:If the image isn't showing up, that last one was four stars.

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Diety?

I'll have you know I've lost 33 pounds.

Hedgeowl wrote:This may count against me, but just to clarify players are frozen and not allowed to post when they are at odd numbers. So technically lizzy froze me above, even though she didnt tag me or llama at the end. Anyone left at odd numbers cannot post.

Epignosis wrote:Just put the two names you are "tagging" at the end of your post. If the body of your post contains other names, that's fine. It will be easier to keep up with.

Off to be bored (some more)

Hedgeowl wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Vompatti
Lizzy

Well I guess that's certainly one way to play this game Snow Dog. Also, wow for llama! i think we just learned Birdos secret power.

Snow - 1
Llama - 1

Vompatti wrote:I'm torn between Elohcin and Russ.

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote: Can we not make our coin amounts public? Host?

They're your coins to spend, save, look at, hide under your mattress, throw at pigeons, or discuss as you like. Unless you are deceased.

Dead men tell no tales (or heads)

agleaminranks wrote:I should have waited to see that dig before I voted.

Oh well. Enjoy your coins, Snowy, ya filthy animal.

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm not sure if Snowy is good or bad, but it seems I must vote for him to save Lizzy.

*votes Snowy*

By the same reasoning you don't know if Lizzy is good or bad.

ture, but lizzy is not a threat to me even if she's bad

I do not like the way you play.

Me neither, but it's too late to turn back now. I really hope whoever gets lynched is bad.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Roxy wrote:I forgot to mention this - llama and Sock4lyf - why wouldn't a baddie or two throw a vote in the wagon on Gleam? Its a good way to blend and tbs I totes think at least 1 or 2 baddies voted for him. Many times have a players votes led to their downfall as a baddie in a lynch so why dont you all think its possible? I have seen it many many times.

Hedgey- why single out Snow Dog for being water obsessed? I was the one to bring it up initially and it has been part of most of my posts and I am not alone there are several people who won't vote water.

I think my post was a bit unclear. I was not picking him out for being water obsessed, just noticing as I read through his posts how so many are about water world, water voters, etc. that was just an observation. My main concern was his first post clearly illustrating that he had read and understood the water bad guy roles and he was participating in the water debate, but then stating later, that NOW he understood the water issue and now he thinks we should go there. What exactly doe he understand now that he didnt then?

I understood better because I read the roles again. As I said in reply to you. I understood the buying roles thing which I didn't before

You didn't say that in reply to me. Your reply before was not specific. Just want to make sure I understand. So the water debate changed for you because you understood what about buying roles? How much they cost? Just trying to figure out what it was that you learned that you didn't know before. Becuase in your first statement you said that the water roles had more lynch votes, so seemed like you understood them at the time.

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm not sure if Snowy is good or bad, but it seems I must vote for him to save Lizzy.

*votes Snowy*

By the same reasoning you don't know if Lizzy is good or bad.

ture, but lizzy is not a threat to me even if she's bad

Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm not sure if Snowy is good or bad, but it seems I must vote for him to save Lizzy.

*votes Snowy*

Hedgeowl wrote:

Roxy wrote:I forgot to mention this - llama and Sock4lyf - why wouldn't a baddie or two throw a vote in the wagon on Gleam? Its a good way to blend and tbs I totes think at least 1 or 2 baddies voted for him. Many times have a players votes led to their downfall as a baddie in a lynch so why dont you all think its possible? I have seen it many many times.

Hedgey- why single out Snow Dog for being water obsessed? I was the one to bring it up initially and it has been part of most of my posts and I am not alone there are several people who won't vote water.

I think my post was a bit unclear. I was not picking him out for being water obsessed, just noticing as I read through his posts how so many are about water world, water voters, etc. that was just an observation. My main concern was his first post clearly illustrating that he had read and understood the water bad guy roles and he was participating in the water debate, but then stating later, that NOW he understood the water issue and now he thinks we should go there. What exactly doe he understand now that he didnt then?

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Snowy seems strangely indecisive on the water issue?

Nope! I will vote for him for this very reason. I thought I'd give him a break because on day 1 I randomised my vote from a list of 16 Snowies, which might have not seemed fair... 'might'

Also, this whole water business has become an obsession for him. Why focus strictly on water voters? Sure there is a likelihood that at least one of the water voters (myself included ) is a baddie, but why would they (we ) go out in the open like that? oh, I haven't read the roles properly, brb, oh! now we have to go with water! oh wait! we must never touch the WATAH! WATERRRRRRRRRRRGARGLGARALALALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLRLR (that was me, btw)

"votes Snowy ^__^"

Vompatti wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Snowy seems strangely indecisive on the water issue?

Hedgeowl wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Yeah Snowy isn't really on my radar. I think we are all grasping at straws today. I'm in with you guys to freeze out Waterworld (apologies to Kevin Costner).

If you think we have enough of a chance to get the baddies before we get to that point, then okay. Although the more I think about it, it also means we will have had a greater chance of acquiring more coins by then too. So maybe there is some logic in putting it off.

Personally, I would prefer to get it over with (simply because I'm a bit more risk-averse when it comes to mafia), but I am willing to go along with whatever the group decides.

I pesonally don't think the baddies will be any more powerful in water world as far as NKs go. The issue as far as I can see is the lynch voting power is it not?

Rereading Snow Dog is interesting. He is a bit water obsessed. Here early on he seems to know the argument for going or not going to water early.

Snow Dog wrote:Ok...got it! It's actually cool to be baddie this game. And now I understand the water world concerns and maybe we SHOULD go there as soon as possible Ie> next

Then here he says he understands the water dilemma as if he is just now getting it. This doesn't make sense to me. This is right now the mosts suspicious and inconsitent thing that I've read so I leaning heavily on voting for Snow.

Vompatti wrote:If Lizzy was here she'd defend me.

Roxy wrote:I voted air b/c I need it to yah know breathe.

Not sure what to make of llamas vote for Snow Dog. I totes understood his vote and reasoning - I do not understand llamas reasoning.

I do think it very odd that Lizzy has gone quieter since she was brought up as suspicious for her map water vote. Now Vomp has gone waaayyy ott with his need to visit water land. Imho we should NEVER go to water land. I do not think that it is too early for them to have enough coin to buy those 4 voter thingys. I have well over the amount and believe me when I say I am not even trying for coin. So his arguement is moot b/c whether we go now or indeed end up going later they {the baddies} have enough coin for that.

as for my vote today well I am not going to be swayed easily tbs. I am leaning Nev, Bullz or Sockfish.

thellama73 wrote:It's not stupid, it's advanced.

thellama73 wrote:I have to go catch a plane now. Everyone vote for Snow Dog while I'm gone.

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Vompatti's behaviour is totally rational and civ like.

Indeed it is. At least I voted water like any civ should have.

Nevinera wrote:

Snow Dog wrote: So you think you know what's best for us all? I guess it doesn't matter. If you are the only water voter it makes no difference. But your determination to go against the grain rankles me. I find it irksome and bothersome. Irksome enough to vote for you again.

This read a bit forced to me, like he was looking for a reason to vote for Vomps.
But I can't figure what that reason would *be*, so it probably won't make me vote snow.
Unless someone can think of a good reason for baddies to want to vote for a specific player like that?

I went with pipe world, because it was always my favorite place, and because someone had already voted for it.
I think in general it is better for us to vote on one or two places instead of spreading them out,
because otherwise it becomes obvious to the baddies which player has which kingdom,
and they can gain a lot of efficiency by night-killing those players immediately when their kingdom is visited.

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I would assume the baddies would prefer to go to the water world later in the game.

I would assume some agreement is needed amongst the players.

I would assume I'm not sure what you mean.

So you think you know what's best for us all? I guess it doesn't matter. If you are the only water voter it makes no difference. But your determination to go against the grain rankles me. I find it irksome and bothersome. Irksome enough to vote for you again.

I thought you just said that the baddies would gain no advantage from going to water world first (which is in line with what I just said) and that you reversed your views on the water voters? I'm assuming this means that you don't find the water voters suspicious anymore, but you still find MY water vote suspicious. I find this kind of suspicion very suspicious indeed.

Vompatti wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I would assume the baddies would prefer to go to the water world later in the game.

I would assume some agreement is needed amongst the players.

I would assume I'm not sure what you mean.