The Syndicate

My triforce was troublesome. Didn't know who to make vote for who with any certainty and certainly didn't want to kill them just in case.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:That was probably the most exciting game I have ever played in, day-to-day. I LOVED being able to figure some things out for myself, and not either being totally in the dark or handed info. I came home from work every day, and when the post came up I went to town with lists and rupee counts and logic trains. I really wanted to win this one for the civs. Thanks for the awesome game, Epi!
I can tell people now that I handpicked you for this role, hoping you would bring this kind of zeal to it. Thank YOU for that, Russti!

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: If we had lynched her yesterday, could we have still won?
Eloh's vote was worth 3 (she bought the rod and the book), and nijuu's vote was worth 2 (she had a rod only). thellama73 had a 1 the whole time. So if you all had lynched nijuu, there would have been no kill, but they would have still had a voting power of 4.

MM89 targeted Snow Dog the Night he died, so he would have learned SD was civilian, by the way.
Son of a bitch. So llama convincing Snowy to switch his vote was the deciding factor in the game.

I don't blame you Snowy. If everyone hadn't put their votes on Eloh already, I probably would have joined you, because I was suspicious of MR. The main reason was because I had rolechecked MR the previous night and the action failed. I assumed MR had a shield. I was bewildered when he flipped civ. That told us who all the baddies were at that point, but it was also too late.

Thanks. But I blame me. I was totally fooled by Logan. He knew my weakspot is trusting ProgArchive members too much. Should have listened to you guys. And I must apologise to Made. I could never shake off the belief you were bad.

Thing is this game I was more active on making cases early in the game and following it up, so when Boogs said I was blendy I was like "what the fuck", he sealed his fate with me for that. However as civ after civ got lynched I lost all trust in anything. I lost my way a bit. Only one thing I really counted on was that Russ was Ganon.
What gave him away for me? He acted like ganon for a start. It was like he was in charge. And when he said to vote for him, that he could "take it", was when I knew.
Rob...the nights of no kills. Was one of them an attempt on me?

And as MM asked, how was I killed? The recorder alone can't do it?

I spotted Russ as Ganon ages ago.

Llama i will not forget this game.

Good game.

Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Does anyone think that little altercation that elo had with Made was set up? Was it distancing?
I've been confused by Made's behavior all game. It wouldn't surprise me.
The fact that she also quit Monopoly Mafia makes me think otherwise.
OK. That's fair enough. Thanks for that info. Did she quit due to Made or another player?

Read her Monopoly posts. No upset there so I have no idea what you are driving at.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oops, I meant to post this first.

I've returned to my previous opinion on Russti. I'm confident he is civ. Eloh voted him on consecutive days, including during the tie between Dom and Russti. Considering that Eloh (presumably) didn't know what would happen in a tie, he must be civ.
This is why I said Russti is in the clear.

I am surprised you doubt me as civ though. Who are we lynching tomorrow?
I said that Eloh's thoughts on you and bloops are equal in my mind. The difference was that my own read of you is civ.

Elo was bad. How can you trust her thoughts on anyone?

thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oops, I meant to post this first.

I've returned to my previous opinion on Russti. I'm confident he is civ. Eloh voted him on consecutive days, including during the tie between Dom and Russti. Considering that Eloh (presumably) didn't know what would happen in a tie, he must be civ.
This is why I said Russti is in the clear.

I am surprised you doubt me as civ though. Who are we lynching tomorrow?
I was just about to ask this. Made suggested Russ, Russ suggested nijuu. I haven't decided which one I feel worse about yet.

It doesn't make sense for Russ to be bad imo. I think most will suggest you.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oops, I meant to post this first.

I've returned to my previous opinion on Russti. I'm confident he is civ. Eloh voted him on consecutive days, including during the tie between Dom and Russti. Considering that Eloh (presumably) didn't know what would happen in a tie, he must be civ.

This is why I said Russti is in the clear.

I am surprised you doubt me as civ though. Who are we lynching tomorrow?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Does anyone think that little altercation that elo had with Made was set up? Was it distancing?
I've been confused by Made's behavior all game. It wouldn't surprise me.
The fact that she also quit Monopoly Mafia makes me think otherwise.

OK. That's fair enough. Thanks for that info. Did she quit due to Made or another player?

thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Does anyone think that little altercation that elo had with Made was set up? Was it distancing?
I've been confused by Made's behavior all game. It wouldn't surprise me.

I've been looking for clues in the polls thread but unfortunately it hasn't been updated by our genial host for a while.

I think Russti is in the clear though.

Does anyone think that little altercation that elo had with Made was set up? Was it distancing?

Well, don't disregard it completely. Depends on what we think are the chances that someone from Hyrule did enter the competition for the Triforce piece.

Epignosis wrote:The question is just filler and therefore meaningless, so yes.

OK. Thanks.

So everyone forget my MM, made or Russ remark above.

In other words would the question remain the same with no mafia in the poll.

Almighty Host.

Would you put the question "Who killed Zeek and Bass?" as a lynch poll question if no one in that poll had done it( or as part of a team)?

MetalMarsh, Made or Russti?

Thank fuck for that!

Well played Elo but you should have gone a while ago.

fingersplints wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Anyone, what time is it now EST?
almost 6:30. post will be about 12 GMT

Many thanks, oh dead one!

Anyone, what time is it now EST?

Don't know when that is so.....bedtime I guess.

Still haven't moved your vote, Made. Please do. We don't want lynch switches.

He should answer.

Elohcin wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:This is such a weird point in the game. What do we talk about for the next six hours?

llama, are you a baddie?
Why made won't better explain his post.
We can also talk about what we are having for lunch. I made elbow noodles with a Parmesan/mozzarella sauce for my kid sand me.
@ Epi...we are out of Parmesan

I am cooking chicken thighs in a barbecue rub, mashed carrots and swede with Brocolli.

Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Well, just b/c all of you think I am bad doesn't mean I should be ignored.I really want to know what he was talking about in the part that I bolded. Do you have any clue what he is saying there?
I'm guessing it's the question about tie lynches? I don't know what he means by "civvies already know/assume" though.
See, you don;t understand what he meant either and yet he refuses to explain. He is being a jerk about it.

I had similar feelings in Dr Who mafia. No need to be rude. No one is really bad!

Yep i gott it wrong

Made wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Made wrote:Holy fuck, Russ is mafia.
Please explain
I rather stall for time I'll explain it at day, if alive, if dead, it's not too hard to figure out from what've said so far.

shame. I need to know now.

Made wrote:Wait just a Damn second, a mafia then exist in the tied vote!?!?!?!

Double checking stuff

But we had tied votes and no one died.

Made wrote:Holy fuck, Russ is mafia.

Please explain

Elohcin wrote:Epi, what happens if lynch votes are tied?

A tie? How are you going to arrange that?

Why do you think nyguukugyu is bad? What evidence?

I will vote Elo if that is what everyone wants. But if everyone wants to including Hyrule doesn't that mean that Elo is civ after all?

I think I solved the puzzle. Well i got an answer but I am way from certain

And what of MM?

I mean if Llama was bad, why did he ask for more votes after I changed votes? If it was a done deal?

thellama73 wrote:I can't believe you guys are trying to blame this one me.

Ok. I'm not convinced about you. So for interest name the three Hyrule.

Lol, I said rubles earlier. Da comrade!

Russtifinko wrote:Haha such a freaking weird situation. The baddies are all outed, and I dunno if we have the time/vote power to get them.

I was trying to make this lynch come off as dramatic as possible specifically hoping they'd out themselves if they thought the game was at stake, but I don't know if it'll be of any help.

And in other news, the numbers are to our disadvantage. So we should avoid solving the puzzle in-thread unless we believe llama, Ninja, or Elo have gotten it.

Linki: Well I thought we were screwed before, but that looks freaking impossible lol.

So down....

Linki again: Epi would've ended it if victory just wasn't feasible, but we have to play it perfectly, I'd imagine.

The variables. Who do we lynch? llama?

I don't think we can win. Mathematically. Depends on some variables. But yeah. Game over.

If they kill one of us tonight it'll be three of them to four of us? And one of us might be zola. We need three succcesful lynches in a row and hope they have no rubles for a bomb or arrow.

Russtifinko wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:So that's really much more of a summary than a case. Here's my pressed-for-time case, in a nutshell:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I can always switch back. I like ties.

I just worry about lynching a civ Eloh when I feel like I've participated less and deserve to go if any civ is going to go. :/
You are NOT lynching a civ Elo. And please don't be defeatist!

Let's start with voting record:

Day 1: Made 1.0
Day 2: Hedgie
Day 3: Boogs
Day 4: sabie
Days 5 and 6: me

So 4 confirmed civs, all of whom died, and me twice. (I am a civ, by the way.) Possibly the worst voting record in the game. But a baddie wouldn't vote 6 civs in a row because it's too obvious, you say?

Elo has a terrible voting record. Civs can have that too, but rarely have I seen one this bad from a civ. Especially one who says, and I quote,
Elohcin wrote: If I were to go with my gut (which is usually right btw) I would say...Russ, MR, and Made are the baddies.
Elo still has no suspicions at all, despite sort of suspecting me, Made, and MM. Waffle-y, much?

Much more importantly than that, throughout the entire course of this 7-day game in which she has helped lynch 4 civs, she has not once given a single reason for a vote other than "Well, other people are doing it", nor has she voiced one reasoned suspicion of anyone in the game!

She said earlier that she thinks the baddies are playing discreetly. Pot, kettle. I think Elo is avoiding naming any names or making any waves because she is scared to give away teammates.
Everyone has a terrible voting record. We haven't caught a baddie yet! I've looked at the votes a bunch of times, and no one's looks better than anyone else's to me.
Good job ignoring the entire thrust of my argument, which was that Elo not only has a bad voting record, as people defending her have said multiple times, but also has been extraordinarily careful not to contribute anything of use to the game.
Like I actually feel somewhat sick to my stomach. So disgusted. And very disappointed in you, Snowie, if you are good.

I am good and I am disappointed with myself. But I did think it was an Elo lynch.

S~V~S wrote:Silly living people

You're not wrong.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Lol

Epi, thank you for putting together a brilliant game. The rupees were a really cool idea and I wish I'd been around more to get the full experience.

Sorry man. I hope my vote wasn't the one that pushed it too close.

Or maybe a lynch switch?

What the actual fuck?

LLama!!! I said he was civ!!!! Damn shit!

Nothing to do now but wait.

I agree with Llama. Change your votes.

A bad Elo would probably have stronger opinions. And not vote in lynching a civ time after time. I got iy wrong.

I'm actually coming around to agreeing with you Logan.

Llama this is the second time I voted for Elo and moved it. Last time was to save Mr R. This is ridiculous.

Now persuade everyone else.

linki. Yeah I guess. Won't save Elo either way.

thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Logan. Are you saying you think no baddie voted Made on day 1?
It wouldn't surprise me. When I am a baddie, I try to keep my fingerprints off civ lynches as much as possible.
If I move my vote and Elo flips civ I'll look dead suspicious
If Eloh gets lynched and flips civ, we're dead anyway.

Bad.

Ok I'll change my vote but I'll remind you how wrong you were about sabie

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