The Syndicate

You are all wrong about me and I wish you had believed me.

I think llama is definitely bad and his possible teammate(s) are Snow Dog along with maybe Kate. That's where I recommend looking after I'm gone.

The A Team wrote:FH - will you answer my question about the quote I pulled of yours?

Sorry, I missed that earlier.

This is what I was referring to:

S~V~S wrote:
The Science Textbook Said: Using the Empirical Method, I have made a few determinations. They may not sound that scientific but these are the things the Scientific method has led me to believe, so if you disagree

Science is fun!!!!
Two nights I'm a row my notes tell me AllAlongTheBoardwalk was not sorry to see LT go.
I don't think Roxy is a baddie. In fact I think she is quite useful in a crisis.
Its possible that Kate is located in MacGyvers Duffel.

When I said, "I'm sure AATB was most sad to see LT 1.0 be lynched" I was simply referring to how the chemistry book post was incorrect.

RIPIYWG boo and He-Man.

I'm not bad and don't really know how to defend against the claims against me other than to say they're wrong. I will say once again, the chemistry book only truly called me out as someone to keep an eye on once (actually AATB). The second time they said that they still weren't sure but would give me the benefit of the doubt. And again I mention, the chemistry book has already been shown to be wrong at least once this game. So why people are acting like it's the gospel truth is beyond me.

The reason I said we should look at LT's suspicion of llama is because she had been calling out llama long before calling out me. And I maintain that she was awfully quick to "no u" me and while I was wrong about her, she was also wrong about me. And it's not like I was going to say, well, LT was suspicious of me and llama so ya'll should all look at me next! Derp!

I came into this game late so yes, I have posted less.

I think the baddies are using me as a very convenient scapegoat today.

I think llama is bad. And that's where I'll be voting.

*Linki with A-team* I'm not silenced. I'm out of town so my posting time is limited.

I am heading out of town today for a weekend in the mountains with my family. I mention this because I will not be getting online much over the next few days as a result.

RIP LT. I really couldn't get past that no u, but you made me worry with how you were posting after you had enough votes to be lynched. I think llama is definitely where we should be looking next since that's what LT wanted.

LT I'm not bad! I don't know why you think you're seeing my baddie game...maybe because I came into this game late?

And I haven't even voted yet so I'm not sure why I'm the one you won't forgive if you get lynched and are in fact civvie.

At this point I feel torn--LT and llama are the two people I feel the most unsure about and they are going after each other. I don't think they can both be bad...

Gah, blurgh.

LT has 7 votes. Whether or not I add a vote to her shouldn't matter I don't think. So I'm voting llama since he's my other suspect and LT's posts are making me feel very unsure.

I can get behind an LT2.0 vote. I was strongly pinged by her immediate no of me and rey in previous days and while I know she has addressed my concern, it hasn't made me feel much better.

I'm not sure how I feel about He-Man. He totally fooled me and many others in the MOTU game so I am wary but having a hard time reading him this game.

Something still feels off about llama to me. But that is mostly a gut thing.

Again, is the only reason I'm a suspect because of the chemistry book? Which has already been shown to not be entirely accurate? Is there any reason people suspect me outside of a gossip role which we have no clue how they derive their information? A-Team? Boo? Mostly directed at you since you appear to be my main accusers currently. I'm honestly curious. I'd like something other than a gossip role to defend against.

RIPIYWG Rey, I feel like you were. And I can understand Dex. His words are just scrambled, much easier to read (especially for someone like me who sees letters out of order making words scrambles look like real words!

).

boo wrote:voted billie jean.

Unsurprising but good lynch outcome.

As for the possibility of recruits, I do not believe that to be the case. There were 4 baddies, and 2 indies (1 of whom may be civvie now, I think penny + MacGyver may = A Team as a result now), but the other indie is (imo) likely baddie/LMSing oriented.

I do think there may have been a Superman (Dex's game on RM a while back) like event that resulted in the two teams merging, but I can't see both of them recruiting someone. I think the unlisted baddie powers are probably similar to civvie ones that... swiss army knife (I think) and another civvie role share, which would rule out recruiting (I would guess stuff like the insanifcation, role blocking, maybe the sawyer language thing, although I would guess that was a result of something different).

Anyways, as for the remaining baddies... thoughts? I'm thinking kate for one, and perhaps AATB (FH) for a second. I could also see He-man, llama, BWT.... a few more but those would probably be my top 5 as likely.

At least until we find the first baddie of that team, I think I'm ruling out reywas, JC, and LT, probably Dex and snow dog as well for people I can see being on that team (not to say I'm convinced any of them are civvies, I just can't see it based on my guesses for the other baddie team).

I understand the suspicion of me (that the chemical book mentioned me twice), but all I can say to that is the Science Textbook has incorrect information. I'm sure AATB was most sad to see LT 1.0 be lynched. Additionally we've already seen that not everything Science Textbook says turns out to be true because one of the things he/she said was "Vompatti is useful in a crisis, as far as I am concerned" and Vompatti turned out to be mafia.

Can I ask if you have other reasons for suspecting me so I can address them?

All of those songs ARE the 80's! Tough decision! I think I'll go with Hungry Like the Wolf because that song is pure awesome.

Awesome result.

@LT: For me my suspicion of INH was a minor thing and something I was just going to keep in the back of my mind. What surprised me was how quickly you jumped on me (and rey) for mentioning that INH was suspicious after your return--really felt like a classic baddie switcheroo. Especially considering that of course you'd say INH was civvie upon subbing in for him!

Here's my initial post (note this was the first post I made after quickly reading the entire thread upon subbing in for AATB):

Flyin' High wrote:Okay, I have mostly gotten caught up on this game. For a speed game ya'll sure post a lot!

@Russ: Yes I do have a nice spreadsheet template, it is similar to the one MP posted, but has a few more categories. I'll upload it in a bit when I have some time tonight.

I am torn on LT 2.0 because INH screamed baddie to me while doing my read-through and I was all set to quote him and why I thought he was a baddie mcbadderson until I got to the part where LT replaced in for him... But I read very fast and need to probably do a more thorough thread read when I have a bit more time to absorb it all.

Gonna vote Ratt for no real reason other than that's the poll choice that sounds the coolest to me.

And yay on getting a baddie.

And here's LT's OTT (in my opinion) response:

LittleTiger wrote:Well, I can see how this next day is going to go down....

I do think the actual baddies will be actively pushing for me to be lynched...since they obviously will know that I am, in fact a civve... right FH, reywaS?

To me this just seems like an overreaction to my post especially considering I said I was way suspicious of INH during my read until I got to the part where you subbed in for him. But I ask, just because you say INH is definitely civvie, why does that make what you're saying true?

However, the quandry I'm facing is that I don't necessarily trust you or llama. But I don't see how you can both be bad since you appear to heavily suspect llama. Some of this will depend on if Vompatti turns out to be MP's teammate like I think he is.

I can't tell if Vompatti is a baddie giving up, a frustrated civvie, or if something else entirely is happening. But seeing as he's my main suspicion, I'm sticking with my case and *voting Vompatti*

@thellama: Fair enough. For me the main points have to do with the timing of his votes in both the boo lynch, and the MP lynch.

In the boo lynch, Vompatti broke the tie between boo and MP in favor of lynching boo. Since we know MP is bad, to me it makes sense that his teammate would try to save him with a vote if possible.

In the MP lynch, once a lot of people started voicing that they were likely to vote MP Vompatti said he'd probably vote that way too. Then, once MP started getting a slew of votes, Vompatti threw in his vote for MP which in my experience is often where you'll find teammates voting when they know their teammate can't be saved.

There are other factors that mostly have to do with Vompatti's posts themselves, but the voting is the most concrete reason I personally suspect him.

thellama73 wrote:I'm a little nervous about the seeming bandwagon on Vompatti. Why are people so sure that he is MP's partner?

Have you been reading the posts we've been making about Vompatti? Not to sound snarky, but I think the case for Vompatti being MP's teammate has been approached from multiple angles by multiple people.

And bandwagon? The mafia teams only have 2 people apiece. With MP dead, there is no one left to defend MP's teammate.

I am finally getting my head into this game now that I've had some time to go back and read through posts a bit more slowly.

Here are some things that stood out to me and why I agree with Kate, boo, and others that Vompatti is a good candidate for MP's teammate:

First these two posts by Dex explaining that he thought one of the boo voters is likely MP's teammate and voted boo to help save MP.

Dex wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:And why is it you think I'm mafia again?
I'll just add to the reasoning I've already posted that it appears to me that one of the things you do as mafioso is ask questions to which you already know the answers.

I also suspect that one of He-Man, Kate, Russtifinko, or Vompatti is your teammate.

Note Vompatti is on the list.

Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.

After MP starts to take heat from a number of players, Vompatti chimes in saying he'll probably vote MP, but he holds off on voting. Dex explains his list.

Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?

Then here Vompatti responds to Dex's explanation with a WIFOM-filled response. Also worth noting, of the 5 boo voters, Vompatti was the last, putting boo in the lead for being lynched and effectively saving MP who had 4 votes (see voting record here).

MP has this post here in response to being suspected:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dex wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:And why is it you think I'm mafia again?
I'll just add to the reasoning I've already posted that it appears to me that one of the things you do as mafioso is ask questions to which you already know the answers.

I also suspect that one of He-Man, Kate, Russtifinko, or Vompatti is your teammate.
I do that also as civvie. You're basing this, and you even admitted, off of the only game you've seen from me: my mafia game. If asking questions makes me bad, then I don't get it.

I don't know the answers to any of the questions I'm asking; that's why I'm asking them. I'm trying to gauge how everyone constantly feels about everyone else because that's how you find links.

I can't speak for any of the four players you listed. I am not convinced any of those is baddie currently, though I certainly have my on all of them, Vompatti probably the most if you asked me right now.

Having experienced a few recent games where MP turned out to be mafia, I have definitely seen him directly suspect his own teammate in the thread in order to distance from them. So the fact that he says he can't speak for any of the four players Dex listed, then calls out Vompatti as the most eyeworthy just adds to why I think Vompatti is his teammate.

@LittleTiger: I don't know why the Chemistry book mentioned AATB twice other than the fact that AATB wasn't participating much in the thread. Which now that I've replaced in for him makes sense I'd think, because he clearly was too busy or whatever to play.

I am not bad so the Chemistry book can't have info that made him mention ATB twice. My best guess is it was a vibe thing.

LittleTiger wrote:Well, I can see how this next day is going to go down....

I do think the actual baddies will be actively pushing for me to be lynched...since they obviously will know that I am, in fact a civve... right FH, reywaS?

Wow, way to turn on me real quick for simply mentioning INH.

If you read my post carefully you'd see that I said I was uber suspicious of INH while reading the thread for the first time, then when I saw you got subbed in for him, it gave me pause and made me want to go back through the thread and read more slowly.

But your fast switcheroo onto me I find doesn't calm my feelings on the matter.

Anyway, another person who had stood out to me on my read of this thread was the llama. This is mostly a gut feeling because his posts don't have the same feel as they did/do in MOTU mafia. But again, I read the thread very fast to try to get up to speed in this game and want to take time to read through some parts more slowly.

Oh, is ratt the host option? Facepalm. Welp, yeah, so,

.

Okay, I have mostly gotten caught up on this game. For a speed game ya'll sure post a lot!

@Russ: Yes I do have a nice spreadsheet template, it is similar to the one MP posted, but has a few more categories. I'll upload it in a bit when I have some time tonight.

I am torn on LT 2.0 because INH screamed baddie to me while doing my read-through and I was all set to quote him and why I thought he was a baddie mcbadderson until I got to the part where LT replaced in for him... But I read very fast and need to probably do a more thorough thread read when I have a bit more time to absorb it all.

Gonna vote Ratt for no real reason other than that's the poll choice that sounds the coolest to me.

And yay on getting a baddie.

Hello everyone! I am going to start getting caught up on the thread now.

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