The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:55 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:36 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:30 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:23 pm Dunno

Don't love the Michelle votes.
What's wrong with the michelle votes? Or right now I think it is only one vote.
What's right about a michelle vote?
I'm not crazy about your deflection, Dom.

But I don't really see Michelle's presence in the thread. (yeah, I'm one to talk; thanks for noticing. But if I'm really looking at the thread, it's like there's not enough umph for me to be like you and say that she's the wrong lynch for today.

Like what has she done to tip the scales for you?

She's voted for Timmer, Lunalee, Creature, and Timmer again. And it looks like she didn't even vote day 1. What town doesn't vote day 1?

Like priorities man, right now I'm fine with the vote on Michelle.

I might be voting there today.

I like Timmer. I liked Creature before they died.

In my mind, Michelle has potential to be mafia scum.

Sure. Potential.
Why am I defending someone I haven't voted for instead of you defending your vote for her... ?
That seems ass-backwards.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:36 pm those four are either timmer
or
voted for creature over sabie and then suddenly found sabie suspicious
A townie does this because they suspected both players.

A wolf does this because...?

(Yes, I know wolves do things just to do things but I want to know why this is suspicious to you.)

A baddie looks for easy lynches. This often leads to a trail of insincere, forced, or meaningless votes.
I don't think it's that bizarre.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:42 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:23 pm Dunno

Don't love the Michelle votes.
Why?

Michelle look town to you?

Why?
Michelle look bad to you?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:30 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:23 pm Dunno

Don't love the Michelle votes.
What's wrong with the michelle votes? Or right now I think it is only one vote.

What's right about a michelle vote?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:27 pm Everyone who suspects me raise your hand lol.
this is a scum Jack sentence

why aren't you voting for him?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:59 pm Okay Drago how did you feel about the Sabie lynch? Pro or anti?

This was [mention]Dragomir[/mention]'s last post.
Weird you think he'd respond to this... unless...

Dunno

Don't love the Michelle votes.

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] whattup

whattup quin

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

those four are either timmer
or
voted for creature over sabie and then suddenly found sabie suspicious

people who are sus af:

juliets
jack
timmer
dyslexicon

you should try the wine in front of me,buddy

[mention]juliets[/mention]
What gives with your sabie vote?

Do you have any-- or just thoughts on Michelle?

Do you have any introspection?

So... what's your actual thoughts on timmer bro?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:26 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:44 am My concern with sabie is if she is Baron. If she did have a night where she didn't submit a power, her vote total would have been lowered by 2, so anyone voting for her in yesterday's lynch could have been a baddie teammate, knowing that a tie wasn't really a tie. But potentially now she did use a power, etc. because there is suddenly an air of "don't lynch sabie" that was absent yesterday.
This is probably a townie Timmer post.

Disagree.

I'm out for tonight.
Lynch either timmer or sabie. I'm content with either.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:04 am Huh:

Creature voters: Jack, timmer, juliets, Dyslexicon, Michelle

All living people. All people I said would kill active Syndicate members (maybe Michelle).

sabie voters: Long Con, TSP, Epi, Creature (dead), Quin (dead)

CAn you spell this out for me?

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:47 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:44 pm (That indicates to me he might not be bad)
How so? Baddies always willing to dump one of their own?

bc sprit could easily pretend to be caught up if he had teammates to tell him things to say.

(That indicates to me he might not be bad)

yo jack i haven't gotten the inkling of a clue why you suspect anyone or that you suspect anyone but myself.

that's strange, don't you think?

I'm cool with Tony or sabie going.

Really Tony is completely nonsensical at this point.

Remember the scum buckets?
Notice timmer didn't make one.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 am Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else

I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

And the two posts that even mention timmer are here:

Spoiler: show

What's up with that?

So two things:
1) [mention]timmer[/mention], what are you talking about? He's said nothing positive about you. But he has interacted with you as if he doesn't suspect you.
2) [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention], What gives?

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:58 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:40 pm I think both Drag abd Sloonie are mafia and this back and forth is a conspiracy. Feels very manufactured.
So I decided to read up on this Dragomir guy since I don't know him and I like his style. I notice that he tangled with Sig, so I'll comment on this... Sig has taken pains to come up swinging with the "I always look bad" thing, and he is absolutely correct in his self-read, even I remember this. But then Sig goes and says things that just... seem shady, like the above. I'd love to hear how this feels like a conspiracy, I don't see it at ALL. And furthur... even though he is correct in his meta read, I'd actually that he seems... bad, lol.

This is timmer only mention of our only confirmed baddie.
What do we think?
Slightly negative read with no action and never followed up before sig's death.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention], can you confirm that the reason you want to lynch timmer is that he has a lot of posts but no content?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:25 pm I can get believing in a certain meta and then finding it to be not what you thought later.

Why is Juliet's town? I have also been gut reading her as bad a little bit, but she's on some respectable players' Town list.

I have no read on her.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:04 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:50 pm Can you explain how that makes sense? Or more specifically, can you explain how that isn't basically admitting that you made a case up? I feel like I'm missing a key piece, here, lol
I ISOed Dom. I came up with a list of complaints, one being that he didn’t pursue some of his cases as much as he should which I noted was especially concerning given that I thought of him (and still do think of him) as a very aggressive player. Then I read some games and found that this was the case but Dom’s posts were still in line with his town baseline.

You read a game I didn't really play, a game where I died on Night 3, and a game where you couldn't follow the thread and concluded this is consistent with my meta?

Catching up now from the store. I'd like to close now pls.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:51 pm Or you were just really, really sure about Dom's past behaviours in games and made the case, but then only went to find proof of it after?

Yeah... it's not a good look.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

I'm out for the day now.
See ya hoes.

Tony
Timmer
Sabie

who should I vote for today?

"I thought you were scummy"

Yeah we've yet to really get at the why there.
And therein lies the problem.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:36 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:02 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:58 am I don't really follow the Dom/Tony argument really well. Tony says he is suspicious of Dom because meta? What are other people's read on Dom?
No I thought that Dom wasn’t aggressive enough and that some of his posts looked scummy. And maybe meta but that went south. Apparently everyone else thinks he’s town.
To be clear, you didn't call them scummy. You called them "off". Still not sure what that means.
And you aren't either.
It means scummy.

weird you didn't say that earlier

YEs-- Tony, I ask the hard questions.
What's your BTSC telling you to say?

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention]
[mention]Dragomir[/mention]

What's up with your vote yesterday?

Is owner predicated entirely on his vote for you?

Who's the 25%, then?

What led you to make a case based on how someone plays usually when you claim you don't know the player well?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:09 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:57 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:46 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:38 am

I suspected you. I probably gave up on the full fledged support of suspecting you some point yesterday while I was still pushing that case.
Why?
Why did I give up a bit? I thought there existed a meta case and I read some of your previous games and it seemed par for the course. At which point I’m basing my entire meta case on a game currently in process.
Sounds like you never had a case in the first place.

Which games did you read?
One with Ancient Greece, one weird one that I couldn’t really track that seemed to take place in several different threads, a few where you posted once or twice a day and then died.
You chose a game where I died on Night 3, a game that was hard to follow, and a game I didn't quite play to base your entire case against me that you pushed hard while I wasn't here?
Do I have that right?
Well I read the games after making the case and you didn’t have many recent ones to choose from. The case I pushed while you were here was not in any way based on those games.

If I wanted to I’m sure I could have found some great examples of what I was looking for but it would have been a little disingenuous.

This ain't adding up, chief.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:02 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:58 am I don't really follow the Dom/Tony argument really well. Tony says he is suspicious of Dom because meta? What are other people's read on Dom?
No I thought that Dom wasn’t aggressive enough and that some of his posts looked scummy. And maybe meta but that went south. Apparently everyone else thinks he’s town.

To be clear, you didn't call them scummy. You called them "off". Still not sure what that means.
And you aren't either.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:57 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:46 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:38 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:31 am

If I thought I could beat you I probably should have reviewed the case and made sure it could be convincing.
You're not quite answering my question.
I suspected you. I probably gave up on the full fledged support of suspecting you some point yesterday while I was still pushing that case.
Why?
Why did I give up a bit? I thought there existed a meta case and I read some of your previous games and it seemed par for the course. At which point I’m basing my entire meta case on a game currently in process.
Sounds like you never had a case in the first place.

Which games did you read?
One with Ancient Greece, one weird one that I couldn’t really track that seemed to take place in several different threads, a few where you posted once or twice a day and then died.

You chose a game where I died on Night 3, a game that was hard to follow, and a game I didn't quite play to base your entire case against me that you pushed hard while I wasn't here?
Do I have that right?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:46 am And nobody answered me about what they think of potential derps and about Epi. A "idk" is fine. /shrugface

meh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:46 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:38 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:31 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:52 am @TonyStarkPrime -- soo did you ever actually suspect me or did you just think you could beat me?
If I thought I could beat you I probably should have reviewed the case and made sure it could be convincing.
You're not quite answering my question.
I suspected you. I probably gave up on the full fledged support of suspecting you some point yesterday while I was still pushing that case.
Why?
Why did I give up a bit? I thought there existed a meta case and I read some of your previous games and it seemed par for the course. At which point I’m basing my entire meta case on a game currently in process.

Sounds like you never had a case in the first place.

Which games did you read?

Anyone get the sense that [mention]sprityo[/mention] is actually catching up?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:38 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:31 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:52 am @TonyStarkPrime -- soo did you ever actually suspect me or did you just think you could beat me?
If I thought I could beat you I probably should have reviewed the case and made sure it could be convincing.
You're not quite answering my question.
I suspected you. I probably gave up on the full fledged support of suspecting you some point yesterday while I was still pushing that case.

Why?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:31 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:52 am @TonyStarkPrime -- soo did you ever actually suspect me or did you just think you could beat me?
If I thought I could beat you I probably should have reviewed the case and made sure it could be convincing.

You're not quite answering my question.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:29 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:43 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:12 am I was gonna ask you the same thing. Do you want to try to lynch each other?

If not I’m voting for Timmer for now.
I think someone already asked you why, I just want to reinforce that. What are you seeing about timmer at this time?
Timmer has a post count in the 70s, but the only things I remember from that are a weird idea on Creature / Owner / Drago being w/w/w (which actually is pretty townie now that I think about it cause scum wouldn’t make claims like that if Creature was gonna flip town) and a fight with Rej day 1.

I said on day 3 that timmer is probably bad because i still don't know what he stands for and only seems to show up when we call his name.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:52 am @TonyStarkPrime -- soo did you ever actually suspect me or did you just think you could beat me?

"I know when I'm beat"

Waiting.
Or are you waiting too?

And by that-- I mean beyond stupid chess bullshit.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] what do you think of Tony?

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