The Syndicate

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:17 pm That sudden late surge of Tony votes wasn't suspicious at all.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:05 pm Yeah, if the Tony lynch was uniquely scum orchestrated it means that both Jack and nutella are bad. Nah.

There could easily be one or two bad guys on any of the wagons though. I come out of this lynch feeling worse about Michelle.

You were the one who convinced me that Tony looked bad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:32 pm Note: Lady LambdaDelta is also a player in this game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:29 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:28 pm Jack— you’re doing the exact thing LC just accused you of.

Which is what?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:04 pm Some Tony things:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:19 am I haven’t played a game with a setup like this is a while lemme recap for myself. Three bad lynches allowed, find scum within six days.

Why does this post exist? Michelle also called him out for this but my beef is slightly different. It's not that he's doing math, it's that he's putting these words into the thread. They're isolated, not really attached to or inviting in any further discussion. He just plopped some cursory mechanical chatter into the thread and moved on.

His progression on Dom also looks strange. Is strange bad? Let's see.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:48 pm I don't want to lynch Dom right now. That makes me paranoid.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 pm nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:07 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:10 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 pm nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

I think he's town. He's doing his typical thing of gathered reactions to lots of little things.

Okay thanks for your opinion.

anyone want to dissent?

I do not know what the initial stance on Dom is supposed to reflect. Do Tony and Dom have a particular history together where the former tends to suspect the latter? He then calls on nutella to offer her allegedly expert read, indicating that Tony doesn't have a particular history with Dom, but then beckons anyone else to disagree with her. In all of this, Tony has done nothing resembling independent work to read Dom. He has observed Dom's presence in the game and asked a specific player to comment on it, then he has sought dissenting opinions all across Australia.

What is your read on Dom, Tony? Does something stand out about him one way or the other? Why are you so interested in him here?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.

I gave you some.

You aren't infallible. Why should I just trust you?

Drop the arrogance and engage with me.

Infallible implies I’m making a mistake. As a wolf? What mistake am I making? As a townie? Then what’s your point?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:31 am Let's look at nutella. I'll iso her

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:27 am @Dom
I said the equivalent of “Vote Dom. Please play, DF. He has a bearded dude avatar.” Two people were like “I thought you meant Dom’s avatar.” And I’m just like “Um...Dom’s avatar doesn’t even have a beard.” And now you’re grilling me on the importance of the relative beards of your avatars and why I felt the need to compare them.

I need you and @nutella and @Long Con and @DFaraday to explain with actual words, without saying “idk” or “kinda” or “maybe,” exactly what is suspicious about me pinging a guy who doesn’t average a single post per day, and asking him to actually play the game.

Explain to me the wolf motivation or whatever.

At least one of you is a wolf struck by the false idea that I can be lynched. If it ain’t you, back up your shit.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:11 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine for now. I’m absolutely not getting lynched because I asked DF to play. Asinine.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 am

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.

Nutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:18 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.

Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.

Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack.

lol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread

This game is a joke right? Everyone high giving and giving townreads to scummy players. Wtf?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:20 am [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Stupid Sloonei frisbee votes.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:03 pm Dom is easy though

Don't talk about my personal life like that.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 pm @Dom

Why is that post suspicious?

What was your aim?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.

When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.

I'm unclear as to what you point is.

To get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.

Again, why is it suspicious?

My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 am did I understood correct, Jack is suspicious because he pinged a low poster to play?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:53 pm

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:51 pm Cheers, dingoes ate my baby, didgeridoo!

I can’t read anyone so I’m not going to pretend to try.

what're you gonna do instead?

Hopefully play the way I used to: Look at inconsistencies in players' statements, observe voting patterns (if I live that long), and examine how effects of role abilities could be linked to specific players.

My initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:32 am @Sloonei all of your posts so far are entirely devoid of spice. I see no real takes. I want takes

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 pm @Dom

Why is that post suspicious?

What was your aim?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.

When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.

I'm unclear as to what you point is.

To get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.

Again, why is it suspicious?

My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 am did I understood correct, Jack is suspicious because he pinged a low poster to play?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:53 pm

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:51 pm Cheers, dingoes ate my baby, didgeridoo!

I can’t read anyone so I’m not going to pretend to try.

what're you gonna do instead?

Hopefully play the way I used to: Look at inconsistencies in players' statements, observe voting patterns (if I live that long), and examine how effects of role abilities could be linked to specific players.

My initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:32 am @Sloonei all of your posts so far are entirely devoid of spice. I see no real takes. I want takes

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 pm @Dom

Why is that post suspicious?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.

When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.

which dom do you play with?

I should clarify that I thought jack was talking about you because that's where his vote was. I have no comment on whether or not I would agree with that assessment of you.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:23 am Now that the game has begun in earnest, I have a few questions:

1) Can anyone give me a rundown of what's normal to expect from Lady LambdaDelta, Michelle, sabie12, and TonyStarkPrime? I played one or two games with Sabie, but that was a while ago. I may have played once with Tony, but I will have to go back and check the master spreadsheet. The other two are new to me. Are these usually talkative or quiet? How they cool, calm, and collected, or are they more emotional with their posts? I don't want their newness to me leaving me focused too much on the devils I know.

2) When do most of you see yourselves as able to vote in the poll? Given that the game is running on some form of Australia time, how can we best structure our discussions? There's an awful lot of overnight for many of us right before the deadline. Let's not fall into the trap of delay and panic. We must also be careful to watch out for late phase manipulation for the same time zone reasons. We cannot just make a hard push in the North American time zones in the evening and just assume things will remain the same the final hours while we sleep. Vigilance, folks. Vigilance.

3) Since both @Dom and @Quin are both playing another murder mystery game set in Australia, are we going to see an epic sequel to their Mad Max dueling? :grin

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:23 am G-man self meta is lame so I will let Jack to talk about my meta, I played with him more than with the others, as both alignaments.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:55 pm I’m going to [VOTE: Dom] aubergine and see what happens.

All the players I’m least confident in reading aren’t here yet.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:03 pm Dom is easy though

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday

You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.

I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.

Please post.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.