The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

this

Chris wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Chris wrote:Did you forget about the 4 recruits, recruited guy?
Yes and no. Tbh, you don't know how many recruits there are unless you are one of them. Don't list it as fact please.
Well, that's a convenient thing for a recruited guy to say.

Let's think about it.

Would the recruiter recruit every day? No. That would be silly. It's got to be every other day.

Ok. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9. That's 5.

Ok. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 5 too!

Minus 1 for a dead Roxy, and you've got 4.

How's that for fact?

Night.... kills?

DFaraday wrote:
zeek wrote:DF, who do you think the Master is? Surely he's likely going to be under the radar, like yourself, so how else can a case be formed?
I am considering Dom and Ninja as possibilities, although I don't really have any evidence since, as you pointed out, since we don't know the Master as having BTSC with anyone it does make finding him difficult. I also don't want to excuse Chris from that role, just because everyone seems to have accepted at face value that he's a civ. I just think that it's a terrible strategy to let virtually confirmed baddies be and go lynching people based on hunches. The circle must be broken.

EBWOP: So you've determined that nobody else in the game could be the Master except Elo? That's...implausible.

It's been said, but how did you go from having no thoughts on me to thinking I could be the master?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Another plus to voting Bass is then we'll have a better idea of who the Controller is, and that could be useful in the future for Strax as well. I thought maybe you had a better idea of who the Controller was, Chris, but I suppose there are some complicating factors.

I think I just talked myself out of a DF vote, frankly. As much as I'd like to make Master progress today. Damn.

How do you know Bass isn't the Controller?

Chris wrote:Snow, how the hell can you justify TWO recruiter roles?
What are you basing this belief on?

Chris, do you see the irony?

seriously?

Chris wrote:Dom, if we lynch Bass today, he'll come up as the role blocker.

but DF still has 2 saves left, and then he's got to be killed one more time. That's a lot of attention to one role. With the recruiters slowly inching their way toward majority, we kind of have to act now. There's not really time to wait to make sure IMO.

And it's more than just lynching him again if he survives this lynch. There's a bevy shit shit that will hit the fan afterward.

Honestly, the civs and Cybers need to join up to get this done IMO.

The enemy of my enemy and all that shit.

This did nothing to address anything in my post.

Why is DFaraday the master for surviving one NK (that civvies have the chance to survive), when there are roles out there that have survivals... why is this any different than you surviving two NKs in the same night?
Why are we lynching the Master at all-- as DFaraday said, your philosophy is to ignore him since he'll survive anyway.

I do not understand your logic because you have none.

Things that must be true for what Chris is saying to be true:
-DFaraday is the Master
-MP is recruited
-DFaraday is recruited
-Bass is not recruited
-Bass is a Cyberman and MP knows this

I'm not saying it's not true, but it's a lot of assumptions to be making.

I voted accordingly for now.

Bea/BWT, I have enjoyed this game far more than I expected to-- not that I had low expectations, just that you've exceeded them. I am having so much fun.

I'd be willing to lynch Bass, Snow Dog or Chris.

Preferably Bass today, I think.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, you think Chris is recruited then?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I think it's worth noting that it seems Strax did not target DFaraday. TH pointed out that his insanifier was redirected. While that could have been a secret role, it could have also been The Master's once-a-game redirect-everything power, which would mean DF wasn't Strax's original target.

The fact that he survived Strax's kill still remains, however.

DF, I want to hear a lot more from you. You're currently one of my top suspects. Who are your top suspects? I want to know what you're thinking. A penny for your thoughts, DF.
keys, if you had to summarize your suspicion of DF in one word, what would it be?
Also, I want to clarify: This is not meant as some kind of puzzle question. I'm just trying to understand your thoughts on DF and thought a really succinct summary might be helpful. It doesn't have to be one word only.

Recruited or, less likely, not who he says he is.

I thought you were quitting?

That last sentence has me wanting to vote Chris given how he separates himself from the civvies.

How was it your first time? Don't you guys have kids?

RIP

Anyways, I can see the lynch ended much quicker than I had anticipated it would have. Crappy Result. :/

At least I got to watch AHS with my friends.

^_^

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:
Chris wrote:Not even a half an hour for Snow Dog to jump on MP's TH thing.

He's never mentioned TH before. He's trying to hide his votes, and I think it's obvious.

Annnnnnnnd Snow is back . LOL... this is getting good.

Why are you so concerned Snow?

And Dom,... lol... I'm not even. You can't pull one quote... that's ok.
And with that... I bid you all a good rest of the day period. I am not dealing with this.
I don't understand why you're getting so frustrated.

All you need to do is pull one quote.

Just one.

Chris, you know damn well that is not why I am frustrated.
Here's two goddamn quote for you:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 076#p92076
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 069#p92069
One where I literally say it's possible you've been recruited because you know so much about the recruiter and one where I ask why you know MM hasn't had contact with the Master.
Given the roles that I believe are available to you, these pieces hold much less weight than they did against Bass. In addition, it's not like I didn't suspect him apart from his comments. Those comments simply made me okay with my suspicion enough to vote.
I don't know who you're kidding, but you've lied ONCE AGAIN about my actions.

Chris wrote:My point about Dom is, he cited Bass' assumption of how many recruits there were as an indication of badiness. He voted for him for it.

I don't remember Dom saying anything to me about my guesses at how the recruitments went down. Even if he said, "How do you know"... that's MUCH different than voting someone for it...

So yeah... big ol' fat

...so?
What are you saying?
I was inconsistent? (I wasn't)
Well isn't the pot calling the kettle black!

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
How do you know TH has a night action? And be careful who you think you can trust wwith recruiters.

on mm not you

Snow Dog wrote:@Dom.

I don't know. It seemed to me he was just making suppositions. Certainly not enough to warrant a vote(from me anyway) . Seems we'll find out later either way.
20 minutes later, Snow Dog votes for TH.

If that's not damning... I have no idea what is...

what are you even trying to say?

Anyway, Chris, have fun having less Dom around. You're certainly gonna have one less person to antagonize.

Chris wrote:Not even a half an hour for Snow Dog to jump on MP's TH thing.

He's never mentioned TH before. He's trying to hide his votes, and I think it's obvious.

Annnnnnnnd Snow is back . LOL... this is getting good.

Why are you so concerned Snow?

And Dom,... lol... I'm not even. You can't pull one quote... that's ok.

And with that... I bid you all a good rest of the day period. I am not dealing with this.

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:
Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:
Chris wrote:
Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.
I did.
?
Can you show me where you did this?
All the times I questioned you about it?
Like are you joking?
Like, no I'm not. I just looked through your posts, and found nothing.

That's why I asked.

Surely if that was a good enough reason to vote Bass, it's good enough for you to say something to me about it.

Wouldn't you agree?

LOL @ Snow.

There it is. The hidden vote.

MP, how certain are you about TH?

Like omg like all the times I said, "how do you know that?"
Like omg like can you not

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:
Chris wrote:
Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.
I did.
?
Can you show me where you did this?

All the times I questioned you about it?
Like are you joking?

Snow Dog wrote:@Dom.

I don't know. It seemed to me he was just making suppositions. Certainly not enough to warrant a vote(from me anyway) . Seems we'll find out later either way.

It's certainly not the only reason I suspect him....it's just what convinced me to vote for him.
He ignored me at first... then answered in a somewhat muddled way...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:BR, if it helps any re: DF, I think that some if not all of last night's targets were redirected.
How would he know if he didn't have a target redirected?

Chris wrote:
Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.

I did.
?

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:
Chris wrote:Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.
I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.
Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...
Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?
Don't care.
It's different here.
Don't like it?
Vote for me.

Chris, don't dish what you can't deal with.

Snow Dog wrote:
Chris wrote:Remember, the MM/Epig lynch was a tie on paper, but the hosts said it was not a tie.

Amy knows where she voted... If she voted for Epig, then she knows that The CyberHead found the body.

And Snow was one of the MM voters.

Linki @ Snow: Oh no you don't You don't get to go suddenly find a reason to vote Bass. Bass merely said that he thought there were three recruits using the same logic I did. Odd day recruitments.

Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.
Yes I found that post. I see nothing there but i want to know what Dom made of it.

what?

Snow Dog wrote:
How do you know TH has a night action? And be careful who you think you can trust wwith recruiters.

on mm not you

Chris wrote:Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.

I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.

Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...

Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?

Snow Dog wrote:I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.

Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.

That's not why I'm voting Bass....
He implied knowledge of how the recruitments work, which someone on the team would know.

keys56000000000 wrote:Dom, I don't remember being yelled at by Chris. I remember him finding me "odd" for "discrediting" his case/s, some other stuff. Whatever it was, I don't think it was for feigning suspicion. I do remember it seeming a bit harsh since I've been trying to keep the sonfabitch alive!

I remember earlier in the game someone faked a suspicion of someone for awhile... I thought you had faked a suspicion of MP and Chris didn't like that?
Am I remembering this incorrectly?

Chris wrote: zeek, do you think I wanted to tip my hand to SVS, a player who I have the utmost respect for as a mafia player?
No.
I was tossing bullshit so they didn't know what I was working on.
Besides, I"m getting some troubling feedback from the idea of SVS as the recruiter, so I've reconsidering.
MM, wait.
You are very confused. And for me to explain enough to clear it up for you would require for me to out my role. But since you already have, and I don't think anyone is being confused by my bad vagueness, allow me to explain why you're wrong, and Epig will jump on anything.
I did not start with any protections. Which was why I was laying low. Then I got my first one on NIGHT 4. Then on night 6, I was double targeted for NKs. Strax's failed because I am civ. The Cyber kill failed because it was passed night 4.
Then on night 8, I was worried becauseNIGHT EIGHT DIDN'T HAPPEN YET.
And that's why I won't be lynched today.

HOLY LINKI!

I have such a hard time, after reading this, thinking you're a civilian.
You yelled at keys for feigning suspicion.
You threw bullshit where?
What the hell????

Chris wrote:And again, just because I post about someone, it doesn't mean that I'm accusing them.

As for suspecting people, I suspect every single one of you mother fuckers with a recruiter role on board.

But anyway, this is why I was saying that I can't put thoughts out on posts, because people try to use them against me.

This isn't the first time I've heard "Chris, you suspect everyone".

I din't suspect it'll be the last either.

So... maybe... just... maybe... you could... you know... change behavior if you don't like its outcomes?

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:Zeek, having a civilian role is nice-- but you could be recruited.
Bit pointless saying this really, anyone could be.
That's the point.
Chris wrote:Good reason. Elo.

Ignoring basic evidence... bad reason.

@ MM: I'm not recruited either. If you think about it, who the fuck would ever want to recruit me? I'm like a lightening rod for trouble...
I direct you to the wine in front of me, sir.

Chris wrote:zeek... you've never played with me before. To be honest, I was waiting for people to start accusing me of not being me.

I call out odd shit, and if I think I'm right, I am VERY hard to convince otherwise. If I didn't call out keys for that odd behavior, and trying to discredit my work, it would have looked very out of place.

Also, I'm still curious why keys was trying to discredit my Cyber case...

So you only called keys out because it would have looked odd if you hadn't?

Long Con wrote:I have always felt like, generally, S~V~S is someone under MP's wing, like SpaceDaisy and Dana were, I believe. Stay safe, S~V~S.

Also, changing my vote back to Bass... I was just going along with my boy keys in his pressure plan for DFaraday, but I have to go to work now. Bass, as I said before, is the lynch for me today.

LC, can you clarify what context you mean "SVS is someone under MP's wing"? Do you mean in this game or in general?

S~V~S wrote:
Chris wrote:In reading back on MP, I noticed that SVS and Roxy were really trying to get people to vote for Epig over MM.

Roxy goes out of her way to try to convince MP to vote for Epig over MM.

For me, that's further proof that they were on the same recruited team.

Still digging.
Like I said Chris, I have not been recruited. You saw how fast I pulled my vote off of you when you made that role hint. You think about that. If you keep not seeing what I am saying, I am going to have no choice but to stop believing that hint. Which is the only reason I took my vote off you. Iirc I was also one of the only people defending you yesterday.

And MM, <3 you but totally not listening to you either.

SVS, why did you respond to Chris with what amounts to a threat of a NO U?

Chris wrote: I'm moving my vote to SVS. I think if the recruiter dies, the recruited go back to normal, and I for one want a non-recruited civvie MP back.

*votes SVS*

Where did you get any of these ideas?

Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:I don't see it tbh.

I'm not surprised you're wary of me, you've accused everyone else so...

At least you know I'm not the Master or a Cyberman.
This is the second time you've said this.

Show me where I've accused "everyone else"...

Are you remotely serious?
If you wanna be paranoid, that's fine. Own it.
Don't pretend like you've been subdued and it's so outrageous someone is accusing you of burning the house down because you saw a spider.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Chris wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Btw, why was Chris worried about being NK'd last night if he has has a role that surives NK's? Did I miss something on this subject?
well, I was either worried about the other 50 percent, or that we did not get through night 8 yet.
If you were a civ, Strax's kill would have failed, leaving you one more NK survival than you claim. If MP's theory is correct, there is much less reason to believe you are Jack Harness Chris. I think there is a hole in your story here. Especially because

Chris wrote:Also, there's no guaruntee that Sarah is alive.

She could have been targeted for a kill, and just failed the 50/50. And no one would know the difference in the night post.
You proposed that Sarah might be dead, which makes it far less likely that you are her. I think I've caught you here.

This is a great point, actually.

Chris wrote:MM, don't forget that the Cybers targeted me the same night Strax did. That would have been 2 NK attempts.

But like I said, I leave it up to me being one role or the other.

When I said that about Sarah, it's true. If she was NKed, we'd never know it. She doesn't AUTOMATICALLY survive like other roles.

Which this post does not address whatsoever-- but rather, it feigns it.

Chris wrote:Call it fear mongering, I don't care.

Nights 1, 3, 5, & 7 for recruiting. 2 are dead. That means there are 4 currently on team recruitment. 5 after they recruit tonight.

There are 3 Cybers left, 4 if you think that the body is somehow a secret Cyber role.

That's 9 possible non civs, with 10 being civ and 1 being The Master. (11 civs if The Master is one of the recruits)

I don't like these odds for the civs...

I feel the beginnings of the recruiter team's end game.

how do you do this

Elo, while we're sharing our thoughts, why don't you share yours?

HOSTS: If Strax were to kill someone with a civilian role, but they were recruited, and Strax was still under his civvie protection kill thing--- would the kill fail?

Zeek, having a civilian role is nice-- but you could be recruited.

Chris, did you read all the banter SVS and MP had at the beginning of the game about how surprised they were that they were agreeing?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:MP, so why does it make you more suspicious of Snow Dog but not Chris?
Because I'm suspicious of Snow Dog due to his possible connection to Sabie, his incredible shift in behavior from what we saw out of civvie Snow Dog 1.0, and basically for these reasons: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 098#p92098.

I'm not suspicious of Chris for his behavior because I know there's a 99% chance he is either Jack Harkness or The Master. I've gone back and forth on whether I think he's which role, but for the moment I'm leaning more the former.

Not only that, but I believe Snow Dog and Bass are not only likely Cybers but likely recruited (even if not Cyber), so a lynch of one of them will provide more information.

Does that help?

Yes.

MP, so why does it make you more suspicious of Snow Dog but not Chris?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Here's a scenario for you.

LC outed Mp as the Doc and MP didn't deny it. In fact he posted his secrets. But what if LC isn't a Doctor companion but a recruiter? And Mp is recruited! So what I great idea to reveal to all the Doctor....no greater civ cred than that!

Wow, reaching much?

A cornered baddie.

Gotta go now, guys, my parents fly out this afternoon, and I need to catch up on PhD work I haven't done due to them being here.

MP, I'm not convinced by Snow Dog at all... but how is this any different than some of the random stuff Chris has thrown out there?

Chris wrote:TH, watch yourself with MP. I also believe he and keys are recruited.

And I VERY strongly believe SVS to be the recruiter.

Very conveniently after TH says so....

zeek wrote:Chris, is there anybody you actually believe are civ still?

I'm out tonight but still five hours ahead. Dunno who to vote for ATM. But I'll easily be back in time for the deadline.

I won't be voting for SVS however. She's a little quieter than earlier but that doesn't make her bad in my book.

What do you make of her ignoring all of the Roxy stuff?

Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:BR who are your top suspects and why?

I suspect DFaraday. Something weird happened last night that I can't find how it would happen so I am still unsure about him. I also suspect Epig and Dom. Dom is actually my main suspect for The Master. I just can't pull anything together to support my gut feel on that.

I'm sorry you feel that way... but you're wrong.

TH, you've made some good points about SVS... but why do you have her down as the recruiter? why not recruited?

Turnip Head wrote:What does everyone think of SVS so far? I've not seen her take any heat yet but I also don't see anyone vouching for her or trusting her. It feels like something is missing from her game but I can't quite place my finger on it. Less conducive to open discussion? Her posts seem to go down carefully mapped avenues of thought, unlike those of a freewheeling baddie hunter.

I've been pondering SVS for a few days now. I just haven't come to any real conclusion-- which makes me nervous. To be honest, I'd expect her to have more thoughts... but I can't name a part of this game-- except maybe the SpaceDaisy stuff that can be absolutely attributed to her... which is not something I'm used to with her.

Chris, when were you recruited?
How do you know so much about the recruiting team?

Chris wrote:I'm not asking you to believe it, or even do it.

I'm asking you if you'd do it if I asked you to...

Chris, there are so many problems embedded within this statement.

Chris, why are you so confident that MM had no contact with the Master?

I voted bass.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Chris wrote:Honestly Dom, I would consider Hedgie as the recruiter if she hadn't voted for MM last like she did during his lynch.
So why couldn't MM be recruited by The Master?

Wanna answer my questions?

Chris wrote:Of course he is.

He's got to hide the real recruiter....

Or is that what he wants us to think??

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Bass has still not responded to the allegations that he is Sabie's teammate.
This is the most worrisome thing about Bass to me, tbh.
Sorry I just got home not to long ago and had to unpack. But I was not on sabie's team or recruited or the master so I don't know what else I can say. I voted for who I thought to be bad this whole game. I still think hedge could be the person who recruits and now its day nine so their is a possibility that she has 3 people on here team now. The way chris said there was no way hedge could be the recruiter makes me think he could be recruited I mean why not recruit a player that claims to have a civvie role and has some kind of protection from night kills. Also he has be trying to drive the thread away from the topic of the recruiter.

how do you know how often the recruiter recruits?

Turnip Head wrote:Bass has still not responded to the allegations that he is Sabie's teammate.

This is the most worrisome thing about Bass to me, tbh.

Chris wrote:And Dom, like people are suggesting, if I am The Master, I only have one life left, since I was targeted with a NK twice. So if everyone really feels that I'm The Master, it won't be that hard to kill me after the Cybers are killed.

But I'm not The Master. And when going after the recruiter, they really should be lynched, since that's the only way we'll know if we got them or not.

Chris we don't know who the Master is... I'm leaning away from you being the Master at this point, if I'm honest. I'm just saying your philosophy on dealing with the Master is really unsound and a good way to let him win. Snow Dog was very eager to follow you on this.

Chris wrote:Not doing that again TH.

As a matter of fact, since me putting thoughts in the thread is being used against me, I'm not releasing anything until I'm ready to present it as a case.

If that sucks, which I think is does, blame people like Dom and Epig.

I am going to kindly ask you to not.
I didn't ask that you post less. I asked that you don't sling mud everywhere and freak out if people don't clamp to your suspects right away because it's harmful to the civvies.
Honestly, I need a break from this game, I think.

My opinion is also that I have no idea how you're so sure you've found the entire rest of the Cyberman team.

My opinion is that your argument has been no one would target the master and no one would lynch the master because it wouldn't work the first three times.

Which is like the most insane thing I've ever heard. Leaving him until the end, and if he has all three lives, would be total suicide.

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:Isn't this precisely what you're doing with Roxy?
Um, no?

If you mean I trusted Roxy's suspicion of Epig and Sabie, it's not the same thing. It caused me to look into them, and find evidence against them.

Bit of a difference.

How?

Chris wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Chris wrote:LC, I just wanted to point out about Epig's point of Sabie the role checker voting for me twice.

First, since when does anyone trust a baddie?

A baddie pointed my way to Sabie and that's the main reason I voted for Sabie. I feel like that statement isn't entirely correct.
I meant more along the lines of why would you trust an accusation from a known baddie? I mean, is it unheard of for a baddie to try to take a civ down with them?

Isn't this precisely what you're doing with Roxy?

keys56000000000 wrote:
Dom wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Dom, what do mafioso want to do in a mafia game? That's right, they want to look like they're civilians! Some players in this game don't post much. When they do post, they post all the right things. Then they disappear into the shadows again. They look too good. Following me?

liunki: Two people survived the NK? Damn there's a lot of NK protection in this game.
Keys, I thought you were trying to apply this to me, that's where my confusion stemmed from. You used the word "you". would you characterize me this way?? I'm confused.
No, absolutely not. That's part of the reason why I trust you. You have got stuck into the game, and sometimes you say things that could be miscontrued. You're not squeaky-clean but you appear genuine in a way that some squeaky-clean players do not.

I see... I was very confused by what you were posting

Chris, how can you be "unsure" if DFaraday is bad if you "know" who the Cybers are? Do you think he was recruited?

Chris, please, do tell, how so many people can be surviving and you are the role you say you are.
Chris, even if you are that role, why are you so focussed on teams given that there's a recruiter out there. . .

AND WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT
Keys has slowed with his Chris is Gr9 Monologue and Chris "doesn't understand what keys is doing anymore".

keys56000000000 wrote:Dom, what do mafioso want to do in a mafia game? That's right, they want to look like they're civilians! Some players in this game don't post much. When they do post, they post all the right things. Then they disappear into the shadows again. They look too good. Following me?

liunki: Two people survived the NK? Damn there's a lot of NK protection in this game.

Keys, I thought you were trying to apply this to me, that's where my confusion stemmed from. You used the word "you". would you characterize me this way?? I'm confused.

Hedgeowl wrote:
Dom wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Dom wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.
We're you even paying attention?

There is little chance that is who DF is.

Linki what a surprise!
Hedge, can you tell me why it's so obvious DF isn't a Cyberman?
Can you also tell me what you mean by your winking face?
DF was targeted by Strax, so I had a brain blip thinking he had to be civ. of course, he could also be cyber head, just not other Cybers.
I thought your post about Chris was sarcastic.
It was to an extent... I just think it's very fishy when people are SO SURE they will die in the night and then don't.
Agreed. I know one way it's possible...

Due to his strong ability as a hypnotist, once in the game he can force every night action that night to be randomly redirected to someone other than the original target. This is up to and including kill attempts.

keys56000000000 wrote:
Dom wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I'm not sure by any means that DF is the cyberhead, I'm just going off a hunch. Lots of people survived NKs - DF, someone I already suspect, surviving one too, pings me. There's a lot of time left, maybe I'll try to identify exactly how I feel about him and put it in words.

But I'm not staking my reputation on this or anything.
Can you summarize your thoughts on DF for me, then? I don't remember having a meaningful discussion on him at any point.
Essentially, I think he's been virtually perfect, which troubles me. He's too clean, y'know? Probably not, I don't think I can articulate this well at the moment. I'll need to frame this better. But I think the same of a few players. I'm interested in the ones that seem to be playing a very careful, straight-and-narrow sort of game. You players think you can see the end, that you can just hold on and make it - I'm onto you!

lol wat

Chris wrote:LC, I just wanted to point out about Epig's point of Sabie the role checker voting for me twice.

First, since when does anyone trust a baddie?

What does this mean?

Chris wrote: Second, she voted for me days 7 & 8. Day 8, I laid a case out that got her lynched.

Why is anyone shocked she voted for me? And day 7's vote? I just survived 2 NKs... that was the PERFECT way to say that I was The Master.

LINKI @ Dom: You don't think that someone who repeatedly talks about how sure that they are that they are going to be killed is a tactic to actually dissuade the NK?

Besides, it shouldn't be shocking that they didn't NK me... If they did, and I died, they couldn't POSSIBLY frame me for being The Master... If I was The Master, I would have survived one more time...

Right?

No.
I think it's a tactic of someone who wants people, desperately to think they are civvie. I think people who constantly repeat that mantra are usually looking for everyone to think they are as civvie as can be! See I'm afraid of NKS!!!!!

bea wrote:ATTENTION ALL PLAYERS!!!!!!

Your humble hostess made a HUGE error in the night post.

DANA HAS NOT BEEN KILLED BY THE CYBERMEN!!

Soooo....NO ONE HAS DIED LAST NIGHT.

I'm so soooooo sorry. I rushed too fast and missed something. Dana can still be voted for - please BOLD your votes for her in the thread if you wish to vote her.

HMMMMMM
Well
that certainly is something....

Hedgeowl wrote:
Dom wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.
We're you even paying attention?

There is little chance that is who DF is.

Linki what a surprise!
Hedge, can you tell me why it's so obvious DF isn't a Cyberman?
Can you also tell me what you mean by your winking face?
DF was targeted by Strax, so I had a brain blip thinking he had to be civ. of course, he could also be cyber head, just not other Cybers.
I thought your post about Chris was sarcastic.

It was to an extent... I just think it's very fishy when people are SO SURE they will die in the night and then don't.

keys56000000000 wrote:I'm not sure by any means that DF is the cyberhead, I'm just going off a hunch. Lots of people survived NKs - DF, someone I already suspect, surviving one too, pings me. There's a lot of time left, maybe I'll try to identify exactly how I feel about him and put it in words.

But I'm not staking my reputation on this or anything.

Can you summarize your thoughts on DF for me, then? I don't remember having a meaningful discussion on him at any point.

Long Con wrote: Now keys is, like, SO sure of DFaraday... even though a Strax survive could be Civvie. What if Strax had failed to kill me? Would keys be coming after me instead?

I don't think so...

What do you make of the fezzes?

keys56000000000 wrote:Hedge, Dom, I don't understand your consternation. What have I missed that eliminates DF from being cyberhead?

I am questioning Hedge about that.

I'm just curious why you think he is the cyber that can't be ok'd

I have no idea who DF is and it bothers me because I think I'm usually pretty good at reading him.

Epignosis wrote:zeek got resurrected with MM in the same breath. That...bodes poorly.

especially given MM's status....

how did zeek die again?

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